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I had an unexpected 20-25K expense getting it to Florida. It was also delivered so late that I can’t get it up to Virginia any time soon. Windows for me to bring it up were spring and mid/early summer of this year. I’m 86K in on the boat already. If I can sell it at $279K, I’m “only” out 30K or so. Can’t afford to pay someone to motor it up the ICW for a month or two, only to then have to make payments on and maintain a boat, while my savings are already drained.

I found a mooring in the Jacksonville area that's ~$70/month. But it means she can't be actively shown, so I need to eat all the expenses if I do it, but it'll save me $1,130/month sitting up there until spring. If she doesn't sell in the next two months, my daughter and I are flying down to Ft Lauderdale mid December. Getting familiarized with S/V Amped (since I've never been on her in the year I've been making loan payments now. lol), provision her, and try to make it 300 miles up the ICW before Christmas. I'd love to do it on wind/sun alone, but I have a feeling in 'the ditch', there won't be much sailing possible, and I'll have to pay for marinas to charge at night often. Should be some interesting content if that happens. Fingers are still crossed that she sells in the next few weeks though, really screwed up my early retirement plans. Started looking for work and before/after school care again.

Perks of having all the weight down low! Yeah, big engine up front and higher off the ground, we’d have rolled into the field. Maybe drowned? Not sure if there was any water left down there

@@Juancasala hi there, contacting the broker would be the best way to check the boat out. 954-609-0357 Are you in Florida by chance?

I actually don't know, I don't see why you couldn't mount them on the back. The rear nameplate drops down to become a "beach" across the back when at anchor. Would provide amazing access to a dinghy in the water, give you a place to set groceries and the like before climbing aboard. I'd give Keith at HopYachts USA a call, he has all the answers. Also, he has a HopYacht in Florida for sale, loaded, new! ‭+1 (470) 313-8589‬

Yup, best of all, no steps down into hulls. It’s all at one level. Climbing down a tight passageway while underway is no fun at all.

Yeah, we could slap a Honda generator on the back. But I feel like that defeats the purpose of a solar/sail boat. :D Set up a visit for her?

Also, if you buy, can I come out and make a video? Never even seen my boat yet. Hah

Biggest baby of a dog I’ve ever had. Love them. :D

I figure the price may fluctuate over the months. The link with full details is in the description. Currently, HopYachts and their dealer thinks I should ask the full price of new, $299,999. It’s got 10K or so worth of upgrades, doesn’t require months of build time and shipping time, so, basically a manufacture inventory boat with all options, ready to go now.

@@ZeroFun Thank You.

The head sale is larger than the total of my Hunter 290’s sales. But yeah, she’s not a performance cruiser. The name tells you everything you need to know. She’s meant to hop between islands, not cross oceans or win races. :D

Oh wow, I haven't seen them before. Those look cool!

So, they couldn’t ship it from South Africa to Florida on containers. The ship yards here wanted 20K for assembly. Was actually the same price to ship it assembled. I’ll slowly bring it up the ICW, with a few ocean hops, in spring. If she isn’t sold down there. Miami/Ft Lauderdale is a hotbed for boating and full of rich people. :D

Anywhere in this world

Yeah. But land speed records need to be much high than that or it looks bad for electrics. The electric car, the Rimac Nevera has set a top speed of 412kph (258mph). That’s what I want to see more of!

Haha. Thank you. I started the channel with it being about Zero electric motorcycles. But figured it can mean many other things. :D

I am! She’s down in Fort Lauderdale still unfortunately however. Decided to wait out the hurricane season, and winter. Bringing her up in spring, but it sounds like winter in Florida is when everyone buys boats, so, may not be available then.

I’m under contract with a broker that’s keeping watch of her, and having her detailed every other month to keep her looking new. She’s loaded with options, 10 miles maybe on the motors. You could sail her to the Bahamas for a week or two, or do the keys for spring break, then sail her up in early summer as it gets warmer up here. Asking 300K, since she’s new, and no wait for delivery, plus you get all the options for free basically. I’m open to offers though, but apparently I’m going to get asking during winter? Dunno. Would love to see her brought up here where I can see her sailing on the ‘Bay or Potomac! www.denisonyachtsales.com/yachts-for-sale/30-hopyacht

If you cover expenses, I’ll go get her right now and bring her to DC. Lifelong sailor, USCG licensed captain, Seatow captain, ASA sailing instructor, commercial pilot, marine electronics technician. I have references.

I had ~30K in unexpected delivery expenses, so I really need to sell it and get my cash out/stop bleeding at this point. If it doesn't sell after winter though, I'll be reaching out to you! Would you take it up the coast? Wouldn't take a tiny cat C cat out into the gulf stream, right? Faster, but wow, some 15 foot waves and you're flipped over.

Yup - no stairs also. Miami boat show I tried out the 30’ Smart Cat. Narrow passageways and tiny steps. Made my back and knees hurt trying to explore it at the docks. Couldn’t imagine doing that while underway.

The price turned me off . Get a Gemini 105 for under 100 G . I burn very little Diesel in my mono haul . Yet I do like the electric part

Yeah, new catamaran prices are insane. Check out the Smart Cat. Still almost 300K after it’s shipped and outfitted. It uses the tiny hulls for bedrooms and doesn’t fit in a mono slip also, so the monthly cost is hundreds more. But yeah, a used cat is the way to go if you can afford the docking fees. Also, a Gemini doesn’t fill up its fuel tank and run the AC all day off solar power. :D

Thank you. Agreed, they have no real plans I have a few other videos about them. Have you seen how they “borrowed” the Ducati ad? Hilarious. Expecting no one to notice and call them out.

@@ZeroFun I don’t think so. Again, I really hope they succeed, but after talking to a rep I couldn’t run away fast enough. I hope people get their bikes. I fear the next thing we read is about lawsuits.

They're about to IPO. They'll collect hundreds of more millions I imagine. Pay themselves 50M a year for another few years, then declare bankruptcy and fold the company. IPO is the pinnacle of the con, especially if you can't make any actual products. Ideanomics (Energica's new owners) kept buying companies with their investor money, so it looked like they were going somewhere. Meanwhile, they paid their execs MILLIONs. Stock went from $600 in 2021, down to $.15 a share now. CEO is still making $20 mill a year last I heard.

Sorry, if I leave anything up for more than a few seconds, I lose watchers. The screen can be paused at least? I bought it to vacation down the keys in spring with the family, after some late winter test sailing on my own. But the delivery kept slipping. All the way to hurricane season basically. Plus the shipping was supposed to be 4-6K, and a few hundred bucks for importing. Ended up at 26K for shipping and 4K almost for importing. Blew all my savings that I needed for a new car on it. Now it’s stuck in Florida where the slip is almost a grand more expensive per month vs up north where I planned on keeping her. If she doesn’t sell by spring, I’m out like 40+ grand I didn’t plan on spending, and still need to move her up. Hoping to sell and recoup my unplanned shipping costs.

@@ZeroFun Mate. That’s horrible. Why was there that blow out. Was there a date of delivery agreement? That’s rough man.

It was my first ever new boat, and it was a stretch of my finances to buy at the original cost estimates. But they were a new builder, doing something I wanted to support, so as much as it sucks not having it delivered during the sailing season, I figured I could at least move it up to cheaper slips every few months when my family had long weekends to have little adventures. No delivery date agreement. From watching youtube and reading forums, it's quite common for boats to be several months, or even a year late being built. So, my being green there bit me. But yeah, the idea of paying 1K to get it assembled, a few grand for two shipping containers, and a few hundred bucks for importing it...not exactly how it played out. No one wants to dedicate a team for a day to putting together a little boat, not when they can charge 20K to assemble a million dollar cat with the same personnel and space. So, flat 20K assembly fee, for the places that would even assemble it that weren't afraid. Ended up being 26K to send it, assembled, South Africa to Florida. Where it arrived covered in oil, poop, and other junk that builds up on the deck of a large ship during a long crossing. So, I got to pay to have my new boat detailed, as soon as it landed. Can't take it out sailing or move away from the boating hot spot of Miami/Fort Lauderdale, or I can't sell as new, and lose thousands off any potential sale. But hey, at least it's going to sell fast...right? So I was told. It's been a few months, costing me over 3 grand a month. For a boat I haven't seen yet, 1,100 miles away. After putting almost 60K into it. Much regret.

@@ZeroFun oh. My. God. That is terrible. Poop in he boat!! Whaaaaat. There’s got to be a way to recover your costs. Insurances? Wait. So did you pay $300K for it? And then all the blown out costs?

@poerava the new 300K price includes shipping and importing. So, no one else will go through what I went through. They learned their lesson. I paid less, but with the broker taking their cut and all of my costs, selling for 300k will pretty much brake even for me. (I have 10 or 15k extras on mine, autopilot, chart plotter, etc) Nah, no catastrophic damage for insurance to cover. Unless you’re suggesting an “accident” happens to it while I’m down sailing over Christmas vacation and I get it totaled. Lol. No, not going to do that. She’s going to sit there all winter, for sale. Being detailed every month or two probably, and I bleed out financially, with no savings.

There is, models after Hull 003 have room for two medium sized people I'd say. 004 is loaded with options and for sale in Florida right now if interested and you don't want to wait for it to be built and shipped.

@@ZeroFun thx

Unfortunately, no. EPropulsaion requires their expensive batteries to enable regen under sail, and it requires speeds you'd probably rarely see in the HopYacht anyway. 4 Days of good sun, and you're pretty much fully charged anyways, assuming you motored all day at a modest speed to run it down.

300k delivered. There’s one for sale in Florida, loaded, new. Owner had health issues before it arrived. Probably would consider any offer.

Air cooled Honda generator would push the body along at a few knots. Or, charge to full over night, while running the AC a bit also. So long as you aren’t anchoring at 0%. Unfortunately, EPropulsion wants you to use their expensive batteries for hydrogeneration via the built in motors. You could always toss over a 48v hydrogenerator and charge up. There’s one for sale in Fort Lauderdale, if interested. Probably won’t last long, crazy rare.

Yeah, but being this narrow, it fits in monohull slips. Very low cost of ownership for weekend sailers. Manual does have it reef very early, to keep it stable also.

Agreed. Now they're saying they'll build the bike parts somewhere else, and assemble in California. It's like playing the cup game with his him, but it's find the factory. Is it really in Canada? Nope! Try again! California? Nope!

I got the same vibe. I’ve been following them for years. When you get into details with them that’s about bikes including support your eyes will open up.

I don't see why not? :D But please don't lose your license for a record... :)

@@ZeroFun I think land speed records have to be clocked in both directions within a certain time frame, the record being the aversge. It's unusual to ask the police if you can have another go from the other direction...

Also, Guinness won’t let you do many records on public roads anymore. :(

I showed photos of the ReVolt bike in the video. Link to the race results in pinned comment. There isn’t much out about it yet, it just happened. No photos from the event, or videos, that I could find. Specs are posted on the bike. I’m sure we’ll see it out at other events, about the same time we see LS-218s competing in customers hands. So…never?

@KevinK38 What makes you think they're making a bike to sell? ReVolt simply took the APS-O record previously held by Lightning. Nothing more is being claimed other than an owner of a Zero motorcycle set the Production Land Speed Record for an electric motorcycle. Also I can find photos of the ReVolt bike and videos of their other LSR attempts. Do you need help?

@@mvetter Thanks. I'm pretty naive about this sort of stuff, and not much for how fast a motorcycle can go in a straight line. And, I'm still confused. Are you saying that this is not a bike that Revolt is making to sell? In your comments you mentioned a Production Electric and a Special Construction/Partially Streamlined Electric. Is the bike in Zero Fun's post the Special Construction?

@@KevinK38 don't worry Kevin Kachadourian I will walk you through this. You see the Land Speed Records are broken up into specific classes based on all sorts of criteria and the AMA have defined all sorts of things. They have body and streamlined types, and then they have power source. There's a prefix which describes the bodywork and powertrain and a suffix that describes the power source. This information is all freely available to anyone. Lighting set a record years ago in the APS-O category. APS is defined as SPECIAL CONSTRUCTION PARTIAL STREAMLINING and the -O stands for Electric or steam. That record stood until earlier this month when the ReVolt team brought a bike that was SPECIAL CONSTRUCTION PARTIAL STREAMLINING - ELECTRIC and it went faster. This supplanted Lightning's record. Now, and I'm going to use small words, there was ANOTHER RECORD that has no relation to this. The record was for a Production class electric motorcycle to set record. It doesn't matter if you go 1mph or 300mph you set a world record. The Production class Electric (P-O) has never been set. It's very very simple.

The record had never been set. At any point anyone with a production electric motorcycle could have gone out and done 5mph and been a world record holder.

Even the latest model? They had some in enhancements in the last year or two I think.

@@ZeroFun my 2022 Ribelle RS still does that

It’s a class C boat, I shouldn’t be going further out from the coast than the cell signals. There’s actually a lot of towers along the coast, often giving data 10+ miles out I’ve heard. So long as I can check weather a few times a day, I’m happy. Coast guard should be hailable for the entire trip too. Plus theres a weather update channel that broadcasts regularly and warns of storms. I’m bringing a pretty beefy WiFi router with a TMobile cell line SIM in it. Changed the TTL on the router and it makes the network think it’s a regular cell phone’s data, not the limited / throttled hotspot data. :D

Hahaha. He wants me to sail down there. Not exactly the right boat for that kind of thing. Sailing up the coast after a few weeks experience on it, in perfect weather, is pushing it. Hurricane season…what am I doing?!?

Ride the ICW up? Or, ride up off the coast? Next storm looks like it *SHOULD* be a day or two up the coast ahead of my departure date now, so, sea states should calm down and I should have decent wind pushing me up.

@@ZeroFun Right now there is NOTHING on radar or coming, it's clear. It's clear all the way out to Cape Verde. I'd say if good head out and sail, and if anything looks fishy do the ICW. Keep your plans flexible.

I would also take on a Honda generator for this. It is just a 'relocation', not regular use.

Looks like the system that was forming, it expected to deflect north now, after the Turks and Caicos. It was a far out projection, but they had it staying in the ocean and following the coast up. Yeah, may be perfect timing to fly down and head out next week. *GULP*

Yeah, but then I'd have to take gas cans, buy a 2K dollar generator and keep it up in the cockpit so it doesn't get salty spray on it for two weeks. I'm $32,000 over budget already on this purchase. Looking to stop the bleeding, there isn't much more to give. lol Solar generates ~7kWh a day. House load should only be maybe 2, even with autopilot adjusting day and night. Should have full batteries the entire time, and even put a knot of motor power into the sail on cloud free days.

I'm good either way, just the not knowing is killing me. Also, my old retired deck hand just had to back out...so I'm single sailing it...in the ocean...for like 2 weeks non-stop. I'm sure it'll be fine.

Southern part of the ditch seems so boring though. Requires full attention too from what I’ve seen. Could you sail much/any of the FL-NC section?

@@ZeroFun nope that's where you can sail. The bitch of the ditch is SC from Georgetown to Cape fear. 70 miles of nothing and nowhere to anchor. About 100' wide at most and in the rock pile section as narrow as 40'. Though I heard a person die over radio during a gale 8 storm on the Neuse as I was crossing. Was fine then boom 50mph steady winds, waves came over my Ocesnis 351 cabin. Ran a heeled state with zero sails up of nearly 30*. Bare pole sailing into the Bar river. Several calls to Coast guard station just 15nm away, they never left till the storm passed. Tow Boat was first in scene, family of 5 aground 4 souls rescued. That was a tough day. You'll sail from Hobe Sound up to Titusville before needing to run the motors till South of St Augustine. The ruins on Cumberland Island is a must. If you can make 70nm, which is what I can do in a day with a diesel at 5kts avg... You can run the ditch to Norfolk in about 2 weeks an a day. My best time was Hilton Head (windmill harbor is a hurricane hole) to Norfolk in 9 days. We had 1 lay day and a half day due to storms. Miami to Ftaiderdal, just go outside and run that. It's a Pita with some 30 bridges. And never move on a weekend in Florida. It's not fun. Your best bets for marinas to charge up at is the city marinas. Theyll be around 2-4 a foot. The heat will be the worst part, summer lulls are on right now so not much wind and what is there is sometimes too much. You'll want at least 3 weeks to come up. The tides are 9' in GA to NC and the currents that go with run 2kts or more through large parts, the Myrtle ditch bitch is one area. TIME IT!! 2' draft you won't have to wait for water in the Carolinas. It's a good ride. Offshore is so boring! Lots of good places to checkout and some good foodie spots. It's really really cool run. Offshore you have to be on watch, no sleeping. Inshore you anchor at night and sleep. I've done both, 9800nm solo as well. I'd suggest the ditch. You'll need a dink, either buy one or borrow. I'd suggest a rollup as that boat was designed around small boat storage, leverage it. Wait till Labor day weekend, WM drops the RU250 to 500.

No need to change it for another 20K miles or something if I remember. Just there collecting flakes from the metal manufacturing process. That’s why the first service kit is just seals and you provide oil. Super quick and easy.

@@ZeroFun Thanks for the info - my Ribelle has almost 30K miles on it - I’ll plan on changing out that filter. I also did a cross-country ride 3 summers ago (Hwy 40 from CA to VA and back) - we may have very nearly crossed paths! I also dropped my bike at a charging station (in Knoxville, TN) - when I first saw your bike on its side I thought it was a picture of my bike - ha ha! Luckily for me 4 or 5 guys ran over to help me pick it up ;-)

So lucky. I got, what was it, an Audi EV driver ignoring me, and an awesome old lazy that ran over to help. I’d reach out to Rob at Energica of New England and double check what all they recommend at various mileages. They’ll sell you maintenance kits/parts and are really knowledge. We need an online registry to check in and log our cross country electric trips. Would be fun to watch how the ride rate increase over the years.

They raised $30,000,000 in series B funding two and a half years ago. They had $20,000,000 in pre-orders to spend. I can't find it now, but $20,000,000 from something else, original investors? Zero in 2014 sold a few mountain bikes with motors a year. These are serious motorcycles. Damon's factory in Canada was 110,000sq feet. So, in this case, technology does take a footprint. They canned that and moved production into 3 garage bays and some office space? There was also state/local incentives for building the factory. Allegedly, incentives were better in California, so they "moved production" there. But uh, I don't know. Just seems like they're going to make more prototypes to show off and raise their soon to be stock launch with.

...And not making bikes that will be highway legal in North America...

Looks like they're focusing on electric scooter for the billion locals in India first? It's funny those have all those amazing looking motorcycles...and they put him on an electric scooter for the video. Hey, at least they're making EVs, huge props for that! Maybe we'll see some of their future products in the USA soon, when they get them sorted, and street legal?

​@@ZeroFundon't forget to check out Ultraviolette F77. You can take a test ride if you want.

What, this isn’t an upgrade from their first, 110,000sq foot factory? :D

I would say, “how can it go on so many years”, but then I look over at Lightning, still raising funds decades after founding…