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I have been to turf moor a few times but always to a night game and until I filmed this I didn’t even know that was there !

@@davidcaster5002 it will be as the megastore etc will be open. The bigger question is will it be open to the public by May?

@@seansalmon1977 I have done it, it’s released at 10am on the 20th.

I made this one a week or so ago for release while I was away. So they haven’t been removed because when it was filmed they didn’t exist 😂

@@cp-overview haha I get you. I thought maybe I was going mad lol

You make a fair point, Graham. We can only hazard a guess as to how the likely arguments between the architects/EFC and the Heritage Stakeholders panned out before the planners decided on the balance.

yeah that looks a bit daft

It's not big enough for that. I reckon they will still end up with it as a cafe and light-touch museum (like many pubs theme their internal decorations). In theory, in the longer term it's planned to be the north terminal of the Mersey Walk, all the way from the National Gardens past the other three of the four graces, 😉.

Possibly Mr D

Correct

Oh yeah he was doing his Sunday weekly fly around that's true, because I saw both you and Mr Drone looking down at your screens near your cars haha 👍

It’s the one great thing about the drone community, everybody gets on and works together so you can get your footage done, Nick was filming one end while I was at the other.

No they're going to leave it as a trip hazard. 🤷‍♂️

@@jaythatsallyouneedtoknow9642 yes, thanks. The question was more how are they going to solve the problem. I thought they wanted to keep the top of the wall there as a feature, levelling it off will likely cover the top of the wall entirely.

Maybe they might use a clear resin or something so it's level, but you can view it. 🤔

I have been on there and the areas we could look at were level and didn’t require any more filling in

so clowns like you can comment with envy

Have a look at your empty stadium.

@@City_Blue_2024 74000 ever game aye it’s empty🤡😂

Thanks , we are off to Egypt

@@cp-overview Nice!

Hi, Lee. I know you're a regular commentator, so it's the only reason I make this point. I'm not having a pop but if you ever read the comments and questions other subscribers ask, then you will have known this answer from about 6 months ago. It must be in the top 10 of the most time-sustained questions most frequently answered by myself and 'Dunctheblue'. I'm pretty sure that the topic has been covered by Colin before, too, as a response to one of my PoI's, which I guess you've missed. I know that relatively few people take the time or trouble to read others' comments and there's certainly no obligation or expectation for anyone to do so but you can learn a lot from them. The body of other subscribers tend to have better knowledge, experience and insight than the droners. So, just to reemphasise, it's expected that the concrete rooves will be painted a dark-grey screed so that it 'blends' with the Mansard Roof and the paneling affixed to the bottom outsides of the terrace bowl. You CAN see that it has already been applied under the barrel-roof on the West Stand as that was actually done before the barrel-cladding was installed. You can also see that it has been done in the Plant Area on the NW corner, segregated by the dark-grey paneling fascia, under the platform holding the AC units and in front of the back doors to the TV Studio. Best wishes and have a good day.

That cladding will be similar but without the holes, more a solid aluminium look.

@@DarrenCowzer-cx7ot thanks

1) I don't know for sure but if the diagrams hold true in the plans then I think the car park will be resin-bound gravel surfaces between the granite setts laid for the walkways but it could also be gravel-topped asphalt. In theory, a natural beige-brown stone colour, either way. 2) I think it's one of these logistical-based, practical issues that we have seen from time-to-time. I think it's just temporary as the seats are still nearby stacked in the neighbouring rows. What the cause is, pass. It's not where any planned subsidiary TV Camera Plinths were intended to be, anyway. 3) I can't see them on my big screens. I get it that you will have seen them elsewhere and know exactly where they are and exactly what they look like but to those of us that haven't yet seen them close-at-hand, they're not readily seen in this video. 4) Yes, they're progressing well with the granite setts laying at the NW corner of the East Plaza. 5) The 'other' stands are also for bikes, of all forms. They're just not stacked or covered, so likely to be used by those visiting the site for less time or as overflow if everyone aims to use the covered 2-tiered stand. there are 8 more of these located out at the southern end of the West Quay, just north of the west access to the southern Isolation Bridge. 6) Again, if you say so. I accept they are there. 7) No, the cladding on the ends of the viewing gallery will be the same material, anodised aluminium, but it won't have perforations and it will be in smaller sections. It does mean it should act as interesting sections of convex mirror to those walking along the South Concourse.

Couldn't afford the rest

@@rosse6705 😂😆🤣

Jurgen: it's a really good question. In both dugouts you will note that there is a form of extended platform in the back row. In images and diagrams in the plans, it looks like some form of white surfaced front wall and roof cover, over three seats, that is due to be installed there. I have researched and browsed and found nothing to suggest what they are to be nor can my limited imagination come up with a conclusive answer, other than it's to screen sight of 3 people with legs in straight plasters and crutches, 😉?

@@davidbadcock2225 something like that Yeah . Thank you David 🤣👍

@@jurgenvoogt1638 When I awoke this AM another thought hit me. Maybe the platform is for a desk with monitors for the staff to do video analysis, which is why the desk will be screened/covered off to avoid the spotlight glare.

Some seats will inevitably get wet when we're two up with ten minutes to go !

@@patkelly931 every week then😂😅🤣🙈

Every seat should be covered, however if it's windy and raining, you'd think that the lower front sections could get wet.

@@patkelly931 😆

@@alanmarch1958 😆🤐

The west stand

Have you noticed the numbers above the turnstyles on the East stand?

@@toffeeboy6702 Hi. 'Noticed' is theoretical in my case. I feel sure you're being helpful and open in your question, so I should thank you for your question. I follow only 3 droners' channels with regard to BMD, as that allows sufficient different perspectives and frequency of coverage for my personal consumption, historically. It does mean that occasionally I don't immediately get to see particular developments 'spots' that get highlighted by others as a result of other footage. In consequence, my commentaries will not be comprehensive and not on all BMD channels. I am very comfortable with that as my intention has never been to be 'some sort of universal auditor or supposed expert', merely an 'informational bank' and 'guide' in the absence of better provision of that 'service'. I have no plans for a David Badcock BMD Channel, despite what many may assume or some have tried to persuade me to do. It does take a fair amount of work to read everyone's comments on the 3 channels and provide fully-researched and as-verified-as-possible answers for the public domain, even if the nature of my work permits windows of opportunities to do so, but there are limits to my scope. With my PoI's I try to avoid repeating others spots as a) it would seem less than genuine at the very least and plagiarism at worst, and b) it would not be helping people to see as many PoI's as possible. I certainly wouldn't point out something I hadn't seem with my very own eyes. I was aware from a few days ago that the numbering of the gates had been spotted by some, due to comments made about seeing them on other channels but I haven't been able to see them myself from the videos on my 'select few' droners' videos in the last couple of days.

@@davidbadcock2225 You answered that with more information than I was expecting. But on the other hand it was great feedback. Your knowledge on the project itself is somewat amazing, and me and other viewers and especially the three drone flyers that ypu follow on a regular occurrence are all greatful for your input and insight to this wonderful project. As regards to the numbers installed they are quite big and Royal blue and are at the moment situated above various turnstyles on the East stand. Keep up the great work in keeping most of us informed with the knowledge you have passed and will keep supplying us with, much appreciated.

@@toffeeboy6702 Ha! And you have responded with way more than I was expecting, and quickly too. I wish I was using your own name when communicating to be more personal but I respect your desire to remain behind a 'pen name', shall we call it. I am humbled by your reflections, thank you. When I was a business troubleshooter, I applied my mantra of always communicating in full and with all detail and evidence 'outed'. That way you leave no one out and in the dark. They pick and choose what they want to take from it and quality always wins over quantity.

Funnily enough regarding the numbers above the turnstiles i have stopped the playback at the points you mention and still cant see them! So im with David on this one lol. But please keep all the inputs coming in, they always provide some focus for the next video which is a blessing a lot of the time when nothing new is clearly obvious.

The brackish saline water from Sandon Dock into the water channel cannot be crystal clear mainly due the chlorophyll and phytoplankton - so placing blue flag stones at the bottom of the water channel would be a complete waste of money and time because you wouldn’t be able to see them

John: what Dunc states is correct but here is a full explanation of it all. I apologise in advance if this is way more than you wanted to have to hand but already in the last few days, Dunc and I have been answering the same sort of question or observations repeatedly and not everyone actually reads others' comments to pick up on the answers already provided, unless the droners actually state the facts in their voice-overs. I think the best way of us not finding ourselves endlessly repeating the answer is to copy across an explanation I have made elsewhere. It's an unavoidably long explanation. 1) The Water Channel is retained for at least 2 reasons: a) it addresses a very real, practical need by The Environmental Agency and their mandate for water management, with minimal additional engineering and cost-impacted actions and b) the Heritage Stakeholders required the connection of the docks north from the centre to be 'continuous' for the preservation of their strategy. 2) As everyone should know from their basic school days' Geography with regard to the "Water Cycle", water rises from the sea then drops on land as rain. The rain continues to follow the rules of gravity, so we get streams and rivers that make their way to the sea. 3) The collective northern Liverpool Docks are fed by two sources: a) freshwater that comes from streams that feed the canals, with those canals feeding into Nelson Dock eventually and b) by the occasional inflow of minimal amounts of saline water (relative the volume of the northern docks) from the estuary, at higher tides, IF the only lock(s) still functioning as part of the Liverpool Freeport, towards the northern end of the whole dock area, open to let a large vessel come in or go out. 4) Sandon Half-Tide Dock, to the north of BMD, is connected to Liverpool Freeport and is saline water. As it's fairly undisturbed water, with only the tugs really using it as a berth, the water in Sandon retains a fairly consistent blue-green water colour. 5) Since the start of the BMD project, 2 things happened at the north and south ends of what is now the water channel, as opposed to the entrances to BMD of old: a) a change in the process at the southern Isolation Bridge and b) the creation of a dam at the northern end of the channel area, so that the whole of the channel area would be useful for the project. 6) At the southern end, the South Isolation Bridge was already in situ and had been for many years. It actually performs the role of a controlled dam and is the division between the freshwater in Nelson Dock and the saline water of BMD, Sandon Dock and beyond. 7) The southern Isolation Bridge contains 8 valves/sluices (you can see the man-holes for each at the south side of the southern Isolation Bridge) that will be controlled by the Environment Agency to regulate the quantity of water in Nelson Dock and the canal network, allowing more water to pass in the 'wet seasons' or after heavy rainfall, and closing the valves in particularly dry periods. The southern Isolation Bridge is a very, very important structure in maintaining ALL the docks water levels at a fairly consistent level without having to install, or resurrect, lots of complicated multlilocks and control points. 8) So, if the sluices were not going to be opened at all during the project it meant that they had to devise a temporary means for getting the water in Nelson Dock to Sandon Dock. LoR installed temporary pipes, pumps and sumps to draw water from a) Nelson Dock but also b) the underlying water-table at or below the bedrocks under the BMD water-channel area. For those that had been observant during the project you could clearly see the 3/4 'wells' that were drawing water out/up to a large Blue Tank located on the West Quay about where the excavator now sits and in line with the remaining northern end sandbar dam. The extracted water was being aerated before being discharged through a pipe that went down into the water of Sandon Dock just north of the current sandbar dam and just south of the NEW Northern Isolation Bridge. 9) It should be emphasised that the new northern Isolation Bridge has always been a literal bridge and NOT a dam, which is why there had to be a stone-based, weak-concrete, sand-topped temporary dam created just south of the northern Isolation Bridge. They used this dam as a roadway, if you recall, as the northern Isolation Bridge has not really been used extensively for vehicle access. One of the most important factors about the northern Isolation Bridge is that it has huge ducts travelling through it that carry all the Electrical mains cables from Blackstone Street through the site to the Substations in the DNOC, as well as subsidiary power connections and all the optic fibre cables that connect the DNOC and the whole stadium with the great wide world. 10) I doubt very much that people had realised just how much water LoR were pumping from the lower water-table and Nelson Dock. If you looked closely at the large blue-tank, now removed, it was a very significant flow. 11) It seems that quite a significant few observers thought the way of allowing water into the channel would be to remove the temporary dam, rather than the opposite method, with its much better safety, allowing safety checks, the use of natural forces, taking into account the laws of physics and the principles that Archimedes discovered millenia ago. 12) Breaching the dam first would have been disastrous because the forces would be totally uncontrollable. The pressure forces of the whole of the area of Liverpool Freeport would have pressed through the first small breach and ripped the dam apart taking most of the dam with it across the water channel. Most people SHOULD recall that from childhood when playing dams, moats and sandcastles on the beach. 13) The easier way to control it all, at a relatively slower pace, is, and was, merely to turn off the pumps and allow "nature" to take over, allowing the freshwater to migrate into the channel but also opening the valves and sluices in the southern Isolation Bridge a fraction. This then allowed the water in the channel to have built up to near the top of the dam. 14) Once the water level either side of the dam was about equal, then THAT was the moment for the excavator to dig a small breach channel at the eastern end of the sandbar dam to allow the equally-pressured distinct bodies of water to join up. All under control, no sudden, damaging rushes of water going anywhere. All smooth and entirely intentional. 15) As the pressures are now balanced either side of the temporary sandbar dam, so the excavator can calmly remove the remainder of the dam, which includes sand and also previously laid rocks. 16) Preservation of the southern Isolation Bridge in its entirety and the construction of the northern Isolation Bridge as a bridge and not as a dam, means that the original, pre-project status is maintained and does not require any re-engineering of the whole northern Liverpool Docks system. 17) With regard to the colour and content of the water in the water channel, it will mostly be blue-green, due to it being mainly saline but at times of high rainfall or the wet season, it may become temporarily brackish and a very slightly darker, bluer colour as more freshwater is allowed to pass into the channel. 18) There would be no point in providing a different base to the water channel, even though relatively shallow, as it will hold a small amount of fine particles and, being mostly saline, not really totally clear at any point, as is the case in Sandon Dock, which will be the predominant water content. Trying to make the water clear and illuminating it would not really achieve its aim against the prevailing natural limitations, bearing in mind all the absolutely necessary part it plays in the dock system. 17) With regard to the colour and content of the water in the water channel, it will mostly be blue-green, due to it being mainly saline but at times of high rainfall or the wet season, it may become temporarily brackish and a very slightly darker, bluer colour as more freshwater is allowed to pass into the channel. 18) There would be no point in providing a different base to the water channel, even though relatively shallow, as it will hold a small amount of fine particles and, being mostly saline, not really totally clear at any point, as is the case in Sandon Dock, which will be the predominant water content. Trying to make the water clear and illuminating it would not really achieve its aim against the prevailing natural limitations, bearing in mind all the absolutely necessary part it plays in the dock system.

@@davidbadcock2225 I think this explains why my idea of am Olympic-style swimming pool and solar-heated spa was a non-starter, then?

​@@DuncTheBlue1878I said clean water like a swimming pool no need to use dock water

Great thanks I was alluding to not using the dock water but tap water like a sealed swimming pool

It’s being trucked to Kirkby and recycled for the building trade

@@DuncTheBlue1878 Thanks, nice to know it’s going to good use.

1:01 Same as the dock on the right hand side as it's connected. The water flows under that bridge. Nelson dock on the other side is a darker colour because it's fresh water.

I don't like the greener water unfortunately

@joelhibbard1482 definitely would have looked better in the darker blue like Nelson dock. I'm not sure what the reason was why they never connected it up to that instead.

Freshwater drains into the water channel from Nelson Dock. If this didn’t happen, Nelson Dock would flood out because the Leeds-Liverpool Canal adds freshwater every day. Water also moves both ways between Sandon Dock and the Water Channel

@DuncTheBlue1878 I'd imagine a lot more water will be coming in from Sandon Dock compared to Nelson though? Sandon is completely open under the bridge and Nelson is blocked off under the bridge. So I'm assuming they have smaller pipes to allow the water to flow through?

Not far, 25 minutes away

Various places, I move around as I fly

There is absolutely no way at all that the LCC would ever grant planning permission for a multi-storey car park on one of the city's parks (the existing car park is within the Stanley Park perimeter)

They're actually a legal requirement as with all the other wheelchair bays, each bay has to have a seat for an attendant.

@@robertjones5852 was thinking the same bud 👍

All that comment proves is that you've not even looked at the plans...

@@Steve-io5oh so who will be responsible for the road?

@@cp-overview The road will be a designated B-road and come under the LCC's jurisdiction, any major issues would be the LCC's responsibility.