Видео

There's a board game called 'Mountains of Madness' based on the similarly named Lovecraft story. Every player in the game gains increasingly debilitating madnesses that they have to play out when talking at the table (it's a cooperative game). The madnesses are amazing! You should look at them for more ideas for the Babbel Curse! Great room!

This is great. It's fudging the numbers without fudging the numbers.

This is great. I am adopting this. I already have a little chest similar to the one you have. I think I will use colored plastic stones from the Dollar Tree.

I'm going to use this with one tweak - when ANY player touches a letter ALL of them recieve their babbling curse. With my group, after the first player grabs a letter and receives the curse, they would just have that single player grab all the letters.

Great❤

Many thanks!

Use the Suggestion spell instead. It does what people think Charm Person does.

This is all just obvious from how the spell is written. People who ignore the wording of the spell are probably going to ignore what is said in this video too.

Excellent points. Its tough to sometimes mix all these categories in a single session. But I believe its important to cycle through what each player wants.

My new bbeg thanks you for the inspiration

4:22 Why did back in the day of D&D 3.5 and earlier, players and DMs didn't take the sage advice seriously, yet nowadays it's considered the next step from the official books in official content?

Hi DM very nice build, although of course very high level. I also have some questions. Why do you want to drop concentration of the conjure elemental? Casting planar binding wouldn't need that step right? The problem I see is, that after dropping concentration the elemental will become hostile. And planar binding doesn't seem to change that, as it says "The creature obeys the letter of your instructions, but if the creature is hostile to you, it strives to twist your words to achieve its own objectives.". So the army of invisible stalkers might pose a certain risk, don't they?

great idea!

Man, if those candles are real say goodbye to your bookcase!!!!

I WISH my players felt these wrong things about Charm Person. They think they can do all of that with a Persuasion or Intimidation check.

Ive been using inspiration tokens at my table, we all love it, but i might just introduce this in our next campaign :3

The only thing I don't like about Charm Person is that it feels like you need subtle spell to really use it. I can't see people reacting positively when you walk up to them or are in the middle of a conversation only to wave their hands around and yelling some crazy non-sense words at you for six seconds.

I'm planning to use it for my snake oil salesman of an Arcane Trickster.

Excellent video. I had the same question because I have a party of 4, and two people were very interested in the lore and story of my world. Then I have one person who checks out and is a little distracted when there is no combat happening and one who is only interested when the story revolves around their character, so I find it really hard to balance, giving everyone what they want and playing DnD for but also me doing things that I love,

3. Vampire the Masquerade (v5) has been a lot of fun. Great RP and the Hunger System is one of my favorite game mechanics in the modern TTRPG game space. 2. Another great game that is simple to learn and fun as hell is Fallout 2d20. It has everything a Fallour game should. Great mechanics and playing it has been the highlight of my last couple of months. 1. And idk if you’ve heard of this game but this is probably the weirdest and most amazing game on my list; The Wildsea. If you don’t have this game, the PDF is cheap enough and worth every penny. Let me paint a picture of this weird and wonderful game for you. It is our world hundreds of years in the future but completely overgrown with large plants and trees, the last vestiges of life make their way on top of these trees. In small villages or on mountain tops. Traveling isn’t the easiest but you can travel across this Wildsea in chainsaw ships!! (Which the whole group has a hand in making before play starts!) Large ships with giant chainsaw blades on the front of them!! And it has so many weird (yet very cool) species and very interesting RP mechanics. And system mechanics. One of the coolest systems to come out in years. Absolute love this game. It’s a great fantasy game with so many twists. I’m not even doing it justice at all. Quinn’s Quest here on RUclips has a great review on it. ❤ Honorable mentions with little to no explanations: Mothership: crazy sci-fi horror Heart (and Spire): fantasy, dark, twisted, compelling fantasy Mausritter: mice, who adventure!

Your content is so much fun. Also, you’re freaking terrifying haha 😂 kudos! (I mean your DM mind, not you personally)

Rival PCs and known NPCs add depth to “You walk in a room and see a body on the floor.” Their first thought can shift from checking for loot to seeing if they are ok.

I would recommend a much tighter range, but i think this is great. A low-hp monster is presumably either small, elderly, or already wounded, so the heroes would know it has fewer hit points than normal.

All players should find and appreciate all of the aspects you talked about, because that's what playing D&D is. The DM has a big responsibility to keep that spotlight moving around, but players have just as big of a responsibility respecting other player's fun (including the DM's fun).

I used to think these spells were really cool until I realized A) that apparently spell components are really obvious and B) that the spell outright lets the person know they were charmed. It's always a temporary thing, and odds are the target will be less than neutral about the fact you just placed a mind spell on them, however weak the effect might be. That is a massive limitation for circumstances in which the spell is a viable option and which notably blocks out most circumstances in which I myself would like to use a spell like it. In fact the design has counter-synergy with itself as the most sensible targets for it are those already hostile to you.... the ones that also get advantage on the saving throw.

3:36 they turn green but can't attack former allies or "new friends", or the spell ends and he agroes most of the time

Banned spell in every game I play. The moral implications are about as bad as you can get.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

As a DM, I home-rule that a victim doesn't realize they are charmed or have been charmed unless they have experience with it. Otherwise, none of my players would use it instead of the Friends cantrip.

For all of these sorts of rooms, unless you're playing a "funhouse" dungeon, you have to ask yourself who put that room there and why? Who maintains it? How come it's not been solved already? How come all the letters are there and haven't been removed? Also, just a word of caution, I bet that wouldn't be too much fun in a public game where some players (or onlookers) might have actual speech impediments. You don't want to find yourself being sued.

99% of us? That's mighty high horsish of you.

As a 3e player, a bard, I negotiated a deal with one of 7 loosely allied evil leaders that we had cornered. Although he had a PC hostage, and a young adult dragon ally, we agreed that we would not only let him live, but help him destroy one of the other leaders. In return, he had to agree to be charmed for the duration of the treaty. His dragon remained free and unhindered as a guarantee that we would honor the deal.... which we did.

I even took this with a recent bard* character, but didn't realise the possibilities... * using Additional Magical Secrets.

This is exactly the way its supposed to be used. My biggest thing in the spell is that the target automatically knows it was charmed. This is why in my games, I make the target make a wisdom saving throw and if they pass the spell DC of the caster, they know they were charmed. This allows people to use the spell a bit more without causing hostile creatures.

Yeah, some people think charm person is enemies abound

No I’m not. Of course I haven’t used it since 2nd edition. Why you may ask. Well it’s because I saw how wizards handled magic before it purchased it from tsr and noped out ever playing it again. With this crap show that is currently going on I have found it’s was a great decision.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I think your description of a relationship with "a charming narcissist" is more the Charmed condition on its own: advantage on social checks, can't harm them. Your description leaves out "views the charmer as a friendly acquaintance." I think that part actually does generally prevent "I know I'm Charmed, and I want to stop being Charmed," because while the spell is in effect, Narcissa Malfoy is a friendly acquaintance. She's not the kind of person who would manipulate me, at least not maliciously! She's good ol' Narcissa! This still doesn't mean the target can't know he's Charmed, or even under the effects of _charm person._ It does, however, mean that on multiple levels, he's convinced that Narcissa doesn't mean him any harm by it. She had to get him to calm down. She had to get him to give her the opportunity to show him she's trustworthy. She didn't want things to get out of hand, so even if _charm person_ is a little out of line, it's probably forgivable if she had a good reason, and she deserves the opportunity to explain herself. Again: "friendly acquaintance," not "stranger I have no reason to trust" nor "acquaintance I like but is a meaniepants to me." At worst, it's "my sometimes-friend who I like, but I know I've got to watch myself because he'll take advantage of me, but I'll forgive him if I catch him at it 'cause that's on me since we both know the game." That's a hard needle to thread, honestly. As to the target learning he's been Charmed, I sometimes think a good strategy would be to have the caster, herself, tell the target she did it. "Bob," says Narcissa, "I'm sorry I had to charm you, but you know I don't want to hurt you and you were getting awfully beligerant. Let's talk this out." And then Narcissa or her allies coax Bob into accepting that it was for the best, use the Charmed condition's advantage to bring him around to agreeing that they are actually okay people, and work him up to Friendly before the Charm wears off. When it does, he's aware he was Charmed, sure, but he already knew that. He doesn't magically consider Narcissa a "friendly acquaintance" anymore, but he also view the party as new buddies. As long as the target knows he's Charmed and you can work him "naturally" up to a point where he's rationalized it as 'acceptable,' the natural part of the persuasion sticks.

Also like Twilight 2000 mixed in with Dark Conspiracy to create a post-apocalyptic Earth with telepaths and inter-dimensional monsters.

I really like Runequest for low magic grounded fantasy games (I use 6e Mythras at the moment)

I think it would take more than a simple skill check to realize you are charmed or even being told you are by an ally. Since the charmer has advantage on all social rolls against you. So for a charmed PC I'd give them disadvantage on all rolls to figure things out. because I dont roll social skills against PC's. So disadvantage on arcana, as they ask their charmer hey was that a charm per son spell just now? response "nah your delusional is was a simple prayer to my deity for good fortune" in that situation they may actually know it was charm person but if they fail the check they dont want to bring it up or do anything about it for fear of gaining the disapproval of their charmer. Thats how manipulation works you can "know" but not have the strength of character to overcome those feelings and confront your manipulator. Since charm person has abroad spectrum of interpretations PC's that are charmed will try to find more ways to weasel out on being charmed, than a DM would with a charmed NPC.

90% agreed but I'd maybe argue that you'd convince yourself, if you regard them as a friendly acquaintance for the duration of the spell, "no Bob wouldn't do that" during the spell being active.

Love the analogy, really helped me wrap my head around how npcs should act. Thanks dude!

So I run od&d white box. The spell is complete permanent domination of any humanoid creature under 5 hit dice. That's significantly cooler especially considering it's 1st level.

I've seen Charm abused this way by DMs but they abuse Suggestion even more. Suggestion is simply an upgraded Command spell with more versatility. Suggestion does not make you switch sides and fight for the caster. DMs love using Charm and Suggestion this way because they may run a lot of low level games and never get to use the real spell that would hijack charcater actions like Dominate spells. Charm is not Dominate and neither is Suggestion but people love reading further than they should into spells. And then when you point it out to them they just say "well, I like it this way." 😅😂

It's honestly more of a non combat spell.

Victims of Charm Person are not automatically aware of the real identity of the person who charmed them. You could be magically disguised and use this spell to make people suspicious of the person you are imitating.

If one actually reads the spell this is all obvious, but that *isn't* rule of cool or as intended, that is raw. Charm person is supposed to charm a person. If all it was intended to do is what is in rules as written, then the friends spell wouldn't exist. What would be the point of the friends spell or charm if you have the other? Yes, they're technically different, but in the end they have the same social interaction effect and the same draw back of them knowing you charmed them as the spell wears off. Charm is just a better friends raw, but as intended, it is meant to allow you to do more especially roleplay-wise. This is why it was more powerful raw in earlier editions.. because it is supposed to be (against minds weak enough or unlucky enough to be charmed that is). So, yes, your video is technically correct, but the whole point of the spell is to charm a person and not just in the sense of a manipulative narcissist (that's just one interpretation of the spell's usage). What is important is how you roleplay its use and disguise casting the spell. Also, a DM might allow you to charm them so well that they don't care when they find out you charmed them -or- use modification of memory to get around that. Other commenters have also mentioned disguises or illusions to throw the victim off as well.

In 5e how about creature's, like the vampires charm ability, is it the same as the spell or more powerful and can they command you to do things they wouldn't usely do like attack and kill your long time group member. And before you ask, yes this happened in our 5e group by the DM and no they didn't use command or dominate person it was a vampire charm ability.

White Plume Mountain: rival parties add spice to the scenerio. First, you have to find the three stolen artifacts and return them to their rightful owners. That's a scavenger hunt. Rivals add an urgency to the party's movements because there is no reward for second place. Second, rival parties can add gravity to the dangers. If another party attempted something and failed, their dead bodies could serve as a reminder of that danger. Thirdly, if there is an NPC that the party is supposed to trust or help, being a member of a rival party explains why they might be there. I think of the Lone Wolf game books. In every book, Lone Wolf ends up by himself to survive the situations. But he often encounters people along the way for good or for bad. Not all adventures warrant a rival group, but many do and add a little extra sauce to the game.