Just a personal thought - a person doesn't need to douse the screw with Loctite as the threads are through holes into the slide body. You don't want to run a chance of the loctite dripping down into the innards. Loctite "dries" in about 10 minutes but fully "cures" in 24 hours so a person might want to consider leaving the gun upside for an hour after the screws are in. Or not ... it's America after all ;)
Got my gun (with factory installed SMSc) went to the range and after one box of ammo I pulled it out of the holster when I got home only to find the mounting screws had come loose. I'm lucky the sight didn't just fall off the gun while I was riding my motorcycle. NO LOCTITE at all.
Thanks for the helpful video but you gentlemen should have included a little bit of loctite in the kit because now I have to go steal some from my neighbor...in the dark of night.
So, listening to this video, should the red dot be cowitnesed with the iron sights? As in, if the irons are lined up on target, should the red dot circle of the Shield Mini be half on the front sight post?
You should line them up, red dot half way up the dot on the front sight. If for some reason the battery dies or the RDS doesn't wake up when requested, you will still have a valid sight picture.
I bought my Hellcat OSP today (HC9319bospsmsc) and the SMSc was not factory mounted as mentioned in the listing at Bud's. While attempting to mount it myself tonight, there was only 1 M4x8 screw and 1 M4x10 screw included. The Shield Sights Instructions included lists 2 of EACH. There was only one of each in the box. The M4x10 is too long. How can I get another M4x8 screw as soon as possible?!?
Sorry to hear this. There should be no issue mounting your sight to the Hellcat. Please contact us via the 'Support' tab on our website and we'd be happy to help.
Disclaimer: I’m a novice shooter. I never got this red dot dialed in. Hard to zero even with help from experienced firearm instructor. Ultimately I was always searching and for me it became a liability for my EDC Hellcat. Anyone who has had good results w alternate product please let me know. Thx.
No torque??? Just snug it down? Strange. I have had to change my batteries twice this year. It is always cover with a rubber protective cover and keeps it in the dark.
Yeah I would think keeping the little rubber boot on would make it go brighter making the battery die faster. Not sure what the boot does . Mine sits in the box . I was going to try and put it in my holster as a protective boot . Nope so back in the box .
Dumb question.... if you lost the little plastic washers because you didn't watch this video first and never have used washers on a optic mount, how does one go about getting replacement washers? I tried reaching out through web support with no response for over a week and a half now.
Hello Cyka Please contact our customer service team here (www.shieldpsd.com/pages/contact-us-2) and we'll be happy to provide you with the correct screws.
Hi Sal, usually 2-3 weeks from our factory in the UK. There are currently delays due to the shutdown in the UK that was in place because of COVID19. We are getting back up to speed now and should hope to have the sight with you soon. If you use the contact form on our website with your order number, a representative should be able to give you an accurate estimation of delivery bar any delays in the postal systems. Thanks
@@ShieldSights this does not explain what the plastic plate in my rmsx is for and the sticker on the plate says find instructions and there aren't any instructions
Also there are two sets of screws of different depth in the kit and you didn't mention which one goes with the hellcat OSP. You've made a powerful enemy even if the answer is fairly obvious. For as much as I had to pay for this maybe a little bit more than a "Once you're finished mounting the site we are not responsible for what you shoot at" product manual. How much would it cost for a little bit more paper? Is not how you charm consumer market. If you were the cheapest contender then it would be different but you're supposed to be premium.
8mm with the shim for the hellcat. The screws that my pre installed wasp came with were 7.5mm. The hellcat manual has the max length the screws can protrude from the bottom of the sight. Looked it up the screws cant protrude more than 2.4 mm from the bottom of the sight.
K C the existing plate that was on the Hellcat was pretty hard to remove. Neither of the Allen wrenched that came with the Shield Sight fit the screws that held the stock Hellcat plate in place. To remove the existing plate on my Hellcat, I had to use a small star shaped screw head from a computer repair tool kit with a torque screw driver that has multiple changeable heads. Once I got the plate off, then I used the short screws that came with Shield Sight, without the clear plastic washers, and I used the larger Allen wrench that came with the sight to tighten the screws to attach the sight to my Hellcat. Once I got both screws tightened down, I already had a perfect zero alignment between the Shield Sight red dot and the fiber optic iron sight on my Hellcat.
I get really tired of "informational" videos that leave out critical information required for an🥴 install. The first step describes removing the plate, but includes no information about whay type of tool/bit to use!!!! I guess I'll have to figure it out myself. Not a very helpful!!!
Just a personal thought - a person doesn't need to douse the screw with Loctite as the threads are through holes into the slide body. You don't want to run a chance of the loctite dripping down into the innards. Loctite "dries" in about 10 minutes but fully "cures" in 24 hours so a person might want to consider leaving the gun upside for an hour after the screws are in. Or not ... it's America after all ;)
You shouldn't be putting enough on to drip, but I get what your saying.
Let me get this straight, the official torque spec for this sight is, "just snug that down, you'll know when it's locked in..." 🤯
Those 4mm screws seem to like 15in/lb of torque on my wasp
Yes
I think I have that setting on my torque driver.
Got my gun (with factory installed SMSc) went to the range and after one box of ammo I pulled it out of the holster when I got home only to find the mounting screws had come loose. I'm lucky the sight didn't just fall off the gun while I was riding my motorcycle. NO LOCTITE at all.
Happened to me, as well. Now to order the torque screwdriver on Amazon for $48.
I guess they weren't snugged down, and locked in.
I came here to find the friggin' torq spec. Springfield's instructions don't even mention it!
Thanks for the helpful video but you gentlemen should have included a little bit of loctite in the kit because now I have to go steal some from my neighbor...in the dark of night.
What type of screw driver did you use to take off plate cover?
It takes a T10 torx bit
I need this for my hellcat
Thanks for the vid, helpful!
What number screwdriver do you need to remove slide cover on hellcat OSP
So, listening to this video, should the red dot be cowitnesed with the iron sights? As in, if the irons are lined up on target, should the red dot circle of the Shield Mini be half on the front sight post?
No
You have two different sight systems now. Independent of each other
You should line them up, red dot half way up the dot on the front sight. If for some reason the battery dies or the RDS doesn't wake up when requested, you will still have a valid sight picture.
I bore sighted my dot
Not even close to my iron sights .
Do I have to use the gasket that came with the hellcat mounting plate on the shield rmsc sight?
Where can I get replacement mounting hardware for the sms2?
like to see a video of that sight and the xdm elite 3.8 10mm. mine didn’t fit the plate without some force.
I bought my Hellcat OSP today (HC9319bospsmsc) and the SMSc was not factory mounted as mentioned in the listing at Bud's. While attempting to mount it myself tonight, there was only 1 M4x8 screw and 1 M4x10 screw included. The Shield Sights Instructions included lists 2 of EACH. There was only one of each in the box. The M4x10 is too long. How can I get another M4x8 screw as soon as possible?!?
Thanks for the great install video! Is shield sights based out of the UK??
Thanks!
I just bought a hellcat today and mine does not have the two screws on the slide to take the plate off. Is there a way to mount optics on it?
If it doesn’t have those two screw and plate then no, it is the regular hellcat not the optics ready model
@@bigstitch4956 You can buy a optics ready slide for your Hellcat, however the price will be in the $200.00 range.
Where? @@marlinlarson8628
So you’ll go through the trouble to add washers, instead of providing the proper length screws?! What the hell kind of crap is that?! 🤦♂️
I just got the RMSc but the mounting pegs on my hellcat slide don't match the RMSc cutout holes. I'm very disappointed.
Sorry to hear this. There should be no issue mounting your sight to the Hellcat. Please contact us via the 'Support' tab on our website and we'd be happy to help.
Disclaimer: I’m a novice shooter. I never got this red dot dialed in. Hard to zero even with help from experienced firearm instructor. Ultimately I was always searching and for me it became a liability for my EDC Hellcat. Anyone who has had good results w alternate product please let me know. Thx.
so you have to remove the red dot to replace the battery?
Yep…
No torque??? Just snug it down? Strange. I have had to change my batteries twice this year. It is always cover with a rubber protective cover and keeps it in the dark.
Yeah I would think keeping the little rubber boot on would make it go brighter making the battery die faster. Not sure what the boot does . Mine sits in the box . I was going to try and put it in my holster as a protective boot . Nope so back in the box .
Which set for screws did you use the shorter set in the box closet to the sight or the longer set in the box further from the sight?
@DanOfTheWild m4x8 the smaller ones for reference for anyone in the future, and t10 torx for the OSP plate removal.
Will this fit hellcat pro OSP
I have the same gun and sight and installed just like you showed but the red dot is still way to high and will not go any lower. Now what?
Did you use the washers same thing happened to me .
Why’s the red dot look like a mosquito. And the red light flash’s
my red dot looks like a sun burst .... how to fix that?
astigmatism bud. age is a bugger. your eyes are the issue.
Glue?? What about when I have to change the battery ?
Blue Loctite is made to allow removal yet stop loosening by vibration
Dumb question.... if you lost the little plastic washers because you didn't watch this video first and never have used washers on a optic mount, how does one go about getting replacement washers? I tried reaching out through web support with no response for over a week and a half now.
Go to a local hardware store
The included screws do not fit on the new shield plus.
Hello Cyka
Please contact our customer service team here (www.shieldpsd.com/pages/contact-us-2) and we'll be happy to provide you with the correct screws.
I’ve ordered/ paid for this thru your website and it’s going on 3 weeks I have not received it. How long does it take thru shipping?
Hi Sal, usually 2-3 weeks from our factory in the UK. There are currently delays due to the shutdown in the UK that was in place because of COVID19. We are getting back up to speed now and should hope to have the sight with you soon. If you use the contact form on our website with your order number, a representative should be able to give you an accurate estimation of delivery bar any delays in the postal systems. Thanks
@@ShieldSights this does not explain what the plastic plate in my rmsx is for and the sticker on the plate says find instructions and there aren't any instructions
Also there are two sets of screws of different depth in the kit and you didn't mention which one goes with the hellcat OSP. You've made a powerful enemy even if the answer is fairly obvious.
For as much as I had to pay for this maybe a little bit more than a "Once you're finished mounting the site we are not responsible for what you shoot at" product manual. How much would it cost for a little bit more paper? Is not how you charm consumer market. If you were the cheapest contender then it would be different but you're supposed to be premium.
8mm with the shim for the hellcat. The screws that my pre installed wasp came with were 7.5mm. The hellcat manual has the max length the screws can protrude from the bottom of the sight. Looked it up the screws cant protrude more than 2.4 mm from the bottom of the sight.
How can you produce something that has no bottom seal and no spot brightness adjustment? A product from the 18th century for a huge amount of money.
the brightness is auto adjusted, it goes dim when it's dark, and it brightens when it's daylight.
EXACTLY! Is it waterproof? I doubt the electronics will like the rain.
All a terrible design
why would you keep the sticker on the battery why not take it off?
It's not a sticker
@@TeamTnA44so what is it? I took it off then found this video. A replacement battery isn’t going to have that “sticker” either.
Do we have to torque the screws? Thanks.
No, just snug and dab of blue Locktite.
No torque specs, AWW HORSE SHIT!!!!!!!!!
LOL, I came here to find out how to take off the plate....gee shield, mine is a bit harder to remove.
K C the existing plate that was on the Hellcat was pretty hard to remove. Neither of the Allen wrenched that came with the Shield Sight fit the screws that held the stock Hellcat plate in place. To remove the existing plate on my Hellcat, I had to use a small star shaped screw head from a computer repair tool kit with a torque screw driver that has multiple changeable heads. Once I got the plate off, then I used the short screws that came with Shield Sight, without the clear plastic washers, and I used the larger Allen wrench that came with the sight to tighten the screws to attach the sight to my Hellcat. Once I got both screws tightened down, I already had a perfect zero alignment between the Shield Sight red dot and the fiber optic iron sight on my Hellcat.
@@ericandi Yeah, Dude should have said "short screws" much earlier. And I like that "you'll know when it's tight".
How does it turn off?
Hi, our sights do not turn off. They have an auto dim feature that will keep the red dot at it's lowest setting when covered and extend battery life.
Yes and that's a huge problem. How about an on off switch and a way to change batteries with removing sight . Not good at all
Is there no gasket or weather proofing of any kind? Yeeesh.
The RMSc is a water resistant sight, the RMSw is our waterproof sight if you're going to be using it in extreme weather conditions.
I get really tired of "informational" videos that leave out critical information required for an🥴 install. The first step describes removing the plate, but includes no information about whay type of tool/bit to use!!!! I guess I'll have to figure it out myself. Not a very helpful!!!
Thanks for vid, pretty much self explanatory without, but thanx anyways