Bethesda Adds Invasive DRM Anti-Cheat To Doom Eternal And Fans Raise Hell
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Lamon, you guys missed the point about the outrage. It’s not about just having Kernel access (even though that has been dialled back from Vista onwards), it’s that it opens a back door into your OS via bugs in the software.
I don’t mind giving it to NVidia because they’re a huge company and I need their drivers to run everything; I do mind giving it to a single game company over software I only use for a relatively tiny amount of time.
@Nobody Jones In the future, you'll need to buy a 'Modder License' from Beth to mod your games.
If this is running at kernel level it probably is also collecting data to sell later.
Bethesda is bad.
*Crowd goes wild*
*Paid Bethesda employee in the crowd boos*
Paid Bethesda employee in crowd.
Still says boo-urns.
I'm done with this company
wasn't it already ruined when everybody got it so ez on torrents?
Mihai D
Naw, that made it better LMAO. I didn’t have to pay a cent for this disaster.
As Mic Gordon once said.
"If you anger DooM Fans They'll Burn your House Down."
Quick tip for those trying to get a refund for 2+ hours of played game time on Steam. Tip: go to Help, then Steam Support, then select Purchases, then select Doom Eternal then select "I have questions about this purchase". From there type out you're grievance regarding this new software politely (a human is gonna read this btw) then state that it's the reason you want a refund as the refund system does not allow you to explain this problem. I was able to get a refund to my steam wallet after being unsuccessful in the standard refund method. This isn't a 100% guaranteed tip but might increase your chance at a refund even if it's in Steam bucks. Good luck y'all, and don't buy shit from Bethesda anymore if you're unhappy with this.
This comment needs to be pinned
Steam approved my refund beyond the 2 hour limit.
I've always been able to explain why and this was no different.
@@vipersb1 you gotta be smart about your appeal, if your message is just "reeeee game bad gimme refund reeeee" they just gonna dismiss you, but if you are objective and clear about your dissatisfaction they most likely will give you a hand
*your grievance
*your grievance
Everyone is screaming "Bethesda stop all the hackers in fallout 76!" Bethesda respond "We hear you loud and clear.... Good news everyone!.. New invasive anti cheat is now being added to.... Doom eternal! Wooo!" :)
They’re such good listeners! Wow!! I’m so impressed, just like with their launch for Fallout 76!
The company and publisher are two different things
@@saladv6069 tell yourself that
@@saladv6069 Technically it was a corporate decision, because ID is under Bethesda. If Bethesda didn't sign off on Denuvo that would make Bethesda a worse company.
@@rationalityfirst Make yourself learn that
"Protecting monetization in single player" -> don't give them their $60 either.
Before, it was just fun entertainment in long long list of modern entertainments. But as greed keeps driving many AAA into these exploits it turns into a serious moral dilemma. Creating addiction-based mobile trash, or injecting this into single player games is not just another way to make a game - it is evil. Buying it - is participating. If they roll this out it becomes moral duty to destroy it, so the kids of the future don't get exploited. Skinner-box like game designed to addict and then milk its victim may harm most users only slightly, which would be a cause enough. But even worse, for the vulnerable, it is as bad as introducing gambling in every grocery shop. It's an ever accessible costly addiction.
Well Interactive entertainment requires interactive monetization eh?
To be honest PC and console games are still semi decent monetization wise. Doubly so after lootboxes got nuked from most titles.
It's the mobile games that are in MTX hell right now and will be for the foreseeable future.
don't buy microtransactions. pirate bad games if you really want them for some reason.
and spread the word.
also pirate anything with denuvo until they take it out. fuck them.
i observe more and more how people defend these shit products, 76, Ac etc, times and changing and people are getting dumber.
Agreed. It is our duty to rip and tear bethesda until it is done.
@@aaaagamedev3524 AC? You mean Assassins Creed?
MTX aside AC was never particularly bad.
It had awful buggy launches like Unity, but that series didn't have it's true Sonic 06 yet.
I especially loved how they waited two months to install this garbage so I can't get a refund. 😐
ditto, freaking messed up. Now I can never replay the single player... mp was crap so idk why they'd excuse rooting you're system for it...
I tried. This has to be illegal.
Same
Try anyway. Talk about how this was not the game you paid for, how singleplayer is now online-only, 2 months after release.
get a cracked version from before it got denuvo.
you have the right.
We;re living in weird times when pirated games are more accessible than paid games.
And run better too, it´s crazy to think the pirated version will run faster than the paid version! O_o
And is less of a security risk to your computer than the paid version!
Weren't they always more accessible? Unless you mean they come with a lot less hassle, in which case, I agree
There was a time when installing cracks was quite a trouble. Pirated games not always came in a neat repack.
Playing pirated fallout 4 with mods is the best thing ever.
Me: Say it with me, Denuvo.
Besthesda: Denuvo
Me: Is
Bethesda: Is
Me: Bad
Besthesda: It just works.
Ronnie Salamanca fuck off bot
Yeah, besthesda
16 times the hostile take over of gamer PCs through kernel level flaws...
Microsoft won't be happy.
You forgot this part
...
Me: Bad
Bethesda: Bad
Me: Denuvo is bad.
Bethesda: It just works!
Got Eeeeeemm... 😜😂🍻
Imagine being able to take one of the single best FPS released in an age, and turn it into $80 malware.
To protect a multiplayer mode. Played by less than a fraction of the player base.
Bethesda: We’re Stark Raving Mad.
According to Steam global achievement stats, 2.8% players completed 25 battlemode matches
@@okbVinyl it just isnt that good. They should have gone with some kind of coop mode instead.
@@Sixstringman I think it would be perfectly fine if they left multiplayer in Doom 2016. Our moved it out to a separate executable, since Eternal is on newer engine version. And there would all modes be, including battlemode. Pretty sure there would be a small but dedicated and robust community.
Actually Bethesda already placed DRM but they forget to make it work in first release.
80?wtf
You need all the Australians to claim a refund based on the property that we never bought into it and now the product has changed our consumer affairs will have another crack at Bethesda again
Sadly they can only be sued that way for a piddly amount
This kind of thing needs to start having punitive damages more than refunds
I’m on my fifth attempt at explaining that exact thing to Steam support. Reported them to the ACCC and told them as much. Get the same copy pasted reply every time.
I’d be willing to take them to small claims court but I’m not sure that’s even possible since Valve doesn’t have any Australian office or staff.
@@MrMonkeyCrumpets I dealt with Epic for them NOT deleting my account when I asked.... for two months. I reported them to the ACCC, told epics CS ans THAT scared the shit out of them.
Report em. Bethesda also.
@Pure theres a difference between a bugfix or balance patch and arguable malware or spyware
There's something impressive about a company only having negative publicity for almost 2 full years
and what about EA it's been more that 2 years
Has it really only been 2 years? With so much negativity it feels much longer.
Zack Brooks EA hasn't been liked in over a decade at least
vellathewench I say almost two years since their e3 2018 was ripped pretty hard and many were skeptical of 76 too. 76 dropped in October that year to "mixed" reception. From that day onward is nothing but bad PR. Doom eternal was received well but outside its release lots of things have gone wrong.
I'd consider their bad PR longer if the consensus was that way. Fallout 4 and the PS3 version of skyrim weren't enough bad PR for the majority imo
@@606hunter1 Yeah, that fits. It just seems so much longer since this has been going on probably because it's been so constant. I guess we can at least say that they're consistent with their failures lol
16x times the uninstalling.
its basicly a root kit if youve rebooted your computer uninstalling doesnt really mean its uninstalled. unless there honest wich i highly doubt
@@jettman-ym1fc Damn!!! Thank God I never I never installed the update, dodged a bullet Neo style on that one.
16 X THE DETAIL
At least "that" is working
@@jettman-ym1fc hang on, steam updated the game but u didnt play it yet, did that parasite installed itself with the update or its installing when you start the game?
If Bethesda really wanted to “test” the anti-cheat why not put it in the obvious multiplayer focused Fallout 76?
They added a battle pass to fallout 76 LMAO
They have the $100 a year sub as the solution for cheaters in Fallout 76. It would cost them revenue to beat cheaters for customers that only bought the game l. :/
Not enough people playing. Like they said it isn't actually supposed to stop cheating so it doesn't matter that basically nobody plays Eternal's MP. Bethesda just wants it on as many systems as possible and Doom is far and away the most popular game they have right now that they have any sort of excuse to slot Denuvo into.
Because 76 is already made and released .. to plug such anti-cheat into it would be a serious dev effort and won't complete in a month or two. This thing has to be there in the core architecture of the game and I bet with DOOM it was planned at a much earlier stage.
Because it would probably break the fragile engine of Fallout4- i mean Fallout76.
This is Bethesda we're talking about... The Bethesda that can't even patch Skyrim despite re-releasing it for everything... They just port it bugs and all and even manage to make more bugs with every re-release...
I however loved being slung thousands of feet in the air from a single blow from a giant.
Shit, they port the bugs to completely different games, let alone other iterations of the same..
Don't forget the "dragons" in Fallout 76. Sure why not just copy/past the dragon code and not change the name.
Accurate but this is Bethesda Softworks doing, not Bethesda Game Studios doing. BGS releases skyrim, fallout etc and they don't have any control or say over other studios under the Bethesda Softworks umbrella, aka id, machine games, arkane etc
Phone get out of here with your logic, reasoning and especially those facts we don’t need none of those around these parts. Go on get out, OUT.., shoo, shoo!!
I have 120 hours in Doom Eternal overall, and I can confirm that I have never been suspicious of any cheating in Battlemode.
I have ~156 hours and have encountered 3 cheaters so far. And they were VERY obvious using godmode, fly hacks, infinite ammo. Many others have reported the same.
Bethesda heard your cry and decided to help you guys out during these hard times. :)
And adds DAC into Fallout 76... Who knows, maybe they already did?
Battle Pass time
Okay, I'm going to see if I can have my emotion chemically removed.
We are truly blessed
Next thing you know, every Fallout 76 players got their computers locked out by a encryption malware 'NukeYoPC'.
It would say: "If you want your files back, pay a monthly fee of 1650 Atoms".
Marauder: "I'm the biggest pain in the ass that Doom: Eternal has to offer!"
Denuvo: "Hold my beer."
From what I've seen Denuvo made the Marauder even worse. Now he just kind of stares at you and politely waits for you to shoot him.
@@sephirothchild 🤦♂️
When Bethesda not just wants ur games to be buggy but ur entire system to be buggy😂
As Mic Gordon once said.
"If you anger DooM Fans They'll Burn your House Down."
Marty: The Doom soundtrack is all Mick's fault. Burn His House Down!
Marty to Todd Howard: (I think that will distract them enough, add the DRM)
@@Marinealver anti cheat, the drm was added quickly after launch
we can all continue to dump money on CDPR to support the correct business model
No, From Software
I wouldn't trust anyone. Let the other fools take the risk of buying the game and testing/getting scammed by it.
Dude I’m ever more happy to have thrown my 300€ at them when it launched! Never would have imagined that it would be such a symbolic statement at some point..
@@Brakvash exactly. I can't wait for CDPR to pull some shady corporate stuff and watch all the fans cry and their beloved forsakes them lmao.
@@flagovhate DICE, Blizzard and Bethesda used to be exactly like CDPR. It's only a matter of time before arrogance and greed takes over.
*The longer Denuvo is on your PC, the stronger it becomes.*
Genuinely wouldn't care of people just pirate now.
It's Bethesda, they should have been pirating the whole fucking time.
@@Lenriak I'm generally against pirating. There are some reasons and special cases though. This is definitely one of them.
It's bad when someone would rather have a pirated version than a legal one and it's nothing to do with money. Well done Bethesda.
@@UnfitToLive Same here. Only thing I generally pirate would be TV shows, and if I enjoyed the show I'll atleast buy on DVD/BR.
I haven't had any interest in any Bethesda games since Skyrim, but I would happily encourage people to pirate from them.
@@Lenriak That's respectable piracy, yeah. 😉
I'd also always have said, pirate on a game-by-game basis because if you enjoy it, it's still worth money. However that changes when companies can now retroactively do this.
I usually dont pirate
But if the game enters such a phase before i get it i will just buy it on steam but download a pirated version
They get my money and i get their game in a better state.Everybody wins since i dont like playing online
Single player games should never have DRM, and should never have Micro transactions
I dont think doom has any microtransactions, and it does have a multiplayer
@@saladv6069 However the multiplayer is not the reason anyone buys or plays the game.
They are testing anti cheat in all their future games. Take elder scrolls 6 for example; no more custom mods without going through the paid creation club and no more using console commands to spawn items like weapons, armor, gold or anything else that could prove to be a revenue loss from bethesda's in game booster pack microtransactions.
This is the pregame to toss micro/macrotransactions in all future games, including single player so they can track any modifications/cheats. Elder scrolls blades loot box mechanics will be coming to elder scrolls 6.
Denovo anti cheat assures bethesda will get their money.
@@kendan1839 Part of this is wishful thinking on my part that Bethesda aren't THAT stupid but ES6 sales on PC will tank if free mods aren't an option.
A single player Elder Scrolls without mod support on PC ceases to be an Elder Scrolls and 2K/Rockstar backed off their anti mod stance after backlash and they're making far more from MTX than Bethesda.
The riot that would explode if Bethesda blocked modding would make the GTA V one look like a hissy fit.
Thank CDPR for GOG and the good selection of games available.
Thank Christ I was too broke to buy D-Eternal... Dodged a bullet there...
Pity I was flush when anthem came out.
It's sad because this game is incredible :(
I'm not buying cyberpunk... Everytime I get interested in a game it sucks...
Don't wanna jinx it for everybody else 😂
@@SilkMilkJilk As much as I hate Bethesda I can't say Doom Eternal didn't deserve $60. The game was kickass and ID really delivered
Shame.
The game is amazing to play. Like, really freaking good.
The general consensus is just pirate the game, the drm free exe was snuck in by ID after all.
What pisses me off the most is that Denuvo Anti-Cheat breaks Doom Eternal on Linux the same as how any game that uses Easy Anti-Cheat crashes immediately on launch.
Seems they never made a Linux version of those anti cheating softwares.
I'm never touching a Bethesda product ever again. I'm done, I do declare.
Took long enough huh
That’s what we all thought before Doom 2016
@Marlon Cebo Calling it right now: Elder Scrolls 6 will only support officially sanctioned (and politically correct) mods.
@Marlon Cebo I actually haven't played skyrim. Not my type of game. I only liked a handful of Bethesda games in the first place which is why this will be an easy promise, I do declare.
I DO DECLARE THERE'S BEEN A MURDER IN SAVANNA
people: pre-order
bethesda: EZ
people: wait for reviews
bethesda: trap card activate
me: wait for reviews and sale
bethesda: mission failed, we'll get 'em next time
Me: sailed the high seas
Bethesda: *surprised pikachu face*
Ikhsan Hasbi
Honestly the way they tried to do the whole anti pirate thing I think they wanted people to pirate it with
Best bet at this point is to wait a year after release before purchasing
DAMNNN, I was just about to buy this game and run through it. Why are publishers making it so that pirating is your best option again?
Not listening to their consumers
@@Rhino-Prime "there" consumers somehow passed gradeschool and still don't know how to use 'there, they're and their' so I get how they think they could trick everyone
@@yukisohma19 you could've just said I used the wrong there
Imagine carding about
@@The.GRAND.loli.LORD.69420 uuuummm
Ok so the main point:
"Pirating is good, buying is bad"
First Vanguard (Valorant), now Denuvo?
I love anti-cheat, however having that level of access into my computer is...pretty dangerous to say the least. I was gonna play Valorant (because it looks awesome to play). However, I like to preserve my security and not play it but enjoy the vods than download something that leaves my computer vulnerable and play the game itself.
Plus, this is Bethesda we are talking about here. I hope it doesn't happen, but they will find some way to fuck it up. It is not like people could pirate Doom Eternal on the first week of release. That is already setting a precedent.
Yeah I got valorant then found out about the anti cheat. I had to use command prompts to delete it
Next is league
Bethesda already fucked it up. Linux won't run Doom now, windows 7 won't run it, any notification during game like discord or steam achievements cause a crash, RGB keyboard and nice drivers are being blocked as cheats, another 30% fps drop, and more.
You do realise pretty much all decent anti-cheat runs at the that Kernel level? BattleEye, Easy Anti-cheat and I believe VAC all operate at Kernel level 0 the only difference is they only run when the game is running instead of all the time.
While operating 100% of the time would definitely pose a security threat, it is also possible to get one of these other programs to run remotely without the game application to achieve the same affect.
If your personal risk tolerance is simply not granting access to that level of Kernel, that rules out pretty much every popular multiplayer game. If you just don't want it running all the time, then that is fair
@@Phillz91 Yea, that is where I am coming from. I'm fine if I am playing the game, then yea it should run while I am playing. Now, if I'm watching RUclips and not playing the game, then I draw an issue in regards to security.
I guess to explain the concept of a what Kernel level driver means and why it's bad better than the Laymen here we go. I will be paraphrasing a little and might be wrong on some info. I usually have more in front of me when I explain these things. Basically the kernel is the heart of your OS. Anything at that level is running at the same level as your core OS functions. The x86 base for our modern OS originally wasn't prepared for the security issues we see now. So they devised the rings of trust concept. This supports the concept of least needed privilege a key cyber security principle. Basically I assign the function to the appropriate level so that it has the access it needs to do without giving it access to anything I feel is above its need. The issue is that ring 0 is usually a no no. Anything running at this level needs to be absolutely air tight. If you were to find an exploit that can access this it's Defcon 1. This is where the questions start. What vulnerabilities does this driver have? No software is completely flawless. Given enough eyes an exploit WILL be found. The real question is what access will that give and how viable of a threat vector will it be? The other problem is simply why? Anticheat shouldn't need this access. It should be fine with normal admin level access. It's been fine for decades why do we suddenly need to give a background process for games the most scrutinized level of access? This is where I get worried that Kernel level access could be a thing more software starts demanding. The principle of least privilege exists for a reason. I think the push back on this is completely legitimate. We should be rejecting this overreach. Hopefully this is revised before a major exploit is found and some serious damage is done.
TL:DR This driver works at the highest level of access and should be thrown back in Denuvo's face.
We've been through this before too. Every single time third-parties start screwing with kernel-level shit, they do it with no thought to security and _can't_ even do that if they wanted to because they aren't experts. If they were that kind of expert with the given OS, they wouldn't be working for an anti-cheat company, they'd be working for Microsoft/Apple/Ubuntu/The Linux Foundation/insert-other-companies-here.
This will end badly. Exploits will be found, they _won't_ get patched in a timely manner, then not at all because devs eventually drop supporting their games, and then anyone running these things when they've past that point are going to have gaping holes in their security they don't even know about.
Get the popcorn. This is going to be a disaster.
@@liesdamnlies3372 Unfortunately the landscape on these threats have changed. It's no longer a single person or small group looking for these exploits. Now you have large organized criminal groups and Nation-state actors like China in the mix. It's going to get very ugly if this trend continues.
Yeah this goes beyond video games.
Wasn't there such an exploit for SecuROM?
@@NatCr3w Yuuuuuuuuuuuup. Though nation-states have been active since back then too, it's certainly gotten more cutthroat.
Someone remix this but every time you say Bethesda the framerate drops on the video
As it should be
accurate
Genius
Not really DOOM related, but Riot is also owned by Tencent, a Chinese tech conglomerate. You're giving kernel level access to a Chinese company. Think about it...
I'd pirate it just to avoid the anticheat
Exactly. This has a inverted outcome from what they want. They want more people to buy the game but they add software that makes more people want to go pirate the game.
They had a beautiful cake for once and they decide to ship it with a turd on top. So people are obvioualy going to find it for free without the additional bloatware at best and a full blown trogan virus at worst.
This, I'm expecting more hacked anti-anticheat stuff in the future if they keep this shit up.
My pc can't even run it. And I'm considering pirating it out of spite now.
Just uninstalled the game and going to pirate it. What a fucking joke of a company.
@@MetoagaYT Too late they got your money already. But there's a comment here somewhere that mentions how to get refunds after 2+ hours of game. Make sure to try it
I remember years back when we gave Bethesda nothing but praise.
Bethesda has to ruin something or it's not happy
That opening Castlevania bit was (*chef's kiss*) the reason I subbed to you two memelords. Excellent.
Never buy a game day one, and wait for at least a few month for the correct patch or even better the "goty" edition.
People never learn.
Funnily enough in this case the opposite would be true tho. Bought doom day one played it, beat the story and got my value. Now they add this garbage i dont care cause i already played the game
We're going to end up having ten of these kernel processes running in the background, each trying to terminate the other.
Damn, first of all, spot on analysis on the motivation behind this change. I think you are absolutely correct that they are testing this out for future games - and who knows, maybe it even interacts with other Bethesda titles? There is really no way of knowing when everything is so stealthily implemented. Is it a coincidence that they introduce a battlepass for Fallout 76 as well recently you think? :) genuine question.
Secondly I was lucky to get my refund of Doom Eternal on steam, but I have only just bought it. Was really looking forward to play this, but I refuse to play this out of principle and disdain for this forsaken company.
A few days late, they already agreed to remove the anti-cheat. Similar to Marty setting the record straight about Mick, ID keeps stepping up and showing they care what the players thinks.
fuck them for even trying it
Even when Bethesda gets it right initially they eventually get it wrong.
They didn't get it right at first. They deliberately waited for a bunch of people to buy and positively review their product before changing it to a product they knew would review and sell poorly.
@@herbderbler1585 to think I thought having a bethesda account would be the worst of it....
This was id Softwares decision and not Bethesdas.
@@nucleus691 Thanks Captain Hindsight.
GODDAMN, the way those three sword strikes match up SO PERFECTLY with the piano notes at 0:38 is just PURE EPIC GENIUS lol
0 cornel is the one ring to rule them all 🤣
starforce: bitch, am i a joke to you ??
Its "kernel".
@@sjent congrats on being a grammar nazi
@@jaredreinstein719 grammar does not equal spelling
@@Rain1 k buddy absolutely nobody cares
Bethesda would 100% use "anti cheat" to prevent any mods but their shitty paid version if they can get away with it
You're confusing the anti-cheat and anti-tamper.
No, he isn't. Anti-cheat can still be used to look for mod hooks.
Almost bought Doom. Glad I didn’t. I had a feeling Bethesda would pull something shady
sickcarnagerequiem Can‘t say I had a feeling but I‘m glad I waited for the sale that now will never be interesting for me..
honestly there is no reason for them to include it to stop future "cheating" since exploits and bugs in their games are better than any cheats could ever be
I refunded it after 4 hours. I was planning to play when work settled down. :/
Pirate it. Honestly supporting these people is what's making the industry garbage, we keep buying games that add more and more garbage into them.
They added microtransactions people weren't happy but they still bought the game, they added DRM people weren't happy but still bought the game, they added battle passes people weren't happy but still got the game.
Today we have more content in microtransactions than in the games itself, RDR2 has a DRM where you can't play if you don't have internet ( a few days ago their servers shut down and no one could play RDR2 single player or multiplayer, they release the games half baked and don't give two shit if the game is trash because we'll buy it anyways.
That's the sad thing about gaming, it became mainstream and when things become mainstream corporations prey on the weak and milk the shit out of them until the industry becomes garbage and loses its soul. I have no doubt that in 10 years there will be less and less great games that comes out but live services garbage that release half baked will be the norm. Fight this with your wallets not with your voices.
You were wise my friend. So many people have been fucked over by Bethesda this time. Who even introduces anti cheat like that? It's been weeks since the game released.
Give me your job
"If Doom fans don't like what you did they'll burn your house down." - Mick Gordon
This fits reguardless of what Mick did.
Don't let my username fool you, I'm Todd and I love Lamon Gaming. I'm subscribed so I never miss a video.
Leave it to Bethesda to take something that actually DOES work and ruin it with one of their "ideas". ffs
Fellas, if you don't think Bethesda will implement this in Elder Scrolls VI, you haven't kept up with their business model for the past several years
China: nobody is going to beat us for the scumbags of the year award!
Bethesda: hold my Nuka Cola
More like hold my canvas bag.
Oh yh, because murdering people that speak out against you, causing a global pandemic, not having proper human rights is worse than putting in an anti piracy system. Grow the fuck up.
@@whfli7656 Do you even humor, bro?
@@whfli7656
Seriously?
If that is pandemic blame WHO and its hidden agenda, who is undermining the core foundation of the western ideology!
Only a matter of time until Bugthesda even fucks up Doom.
side note:
DestroyAllHumans ad in the video » nice!
The first sign was when Mick Gordon left
That one was on mick, not id
@@saladv6069 Oh i guess i didn't hear the details then. Cuz all i know is that he couldn' mix the songs in time and someone else was in charge of that. but what did mick do?
@@danieleccleston7928 He did a fraction of the mixing work before the deadline, and iD's chief audio engineer was forced to quickly mix with bad samples because mick never sent the good ones over, something to that effect. I probably have some of the details wrong, just look it up
@@hotcrossballs alright i will but thanks
Mick Gordon failed to meet deadlines even after they fully extended it by MORE then he asked for and Id still offered to give him all his "on time" bonuses. He just failed to be a professional, kept missing every extension and then went on to make it look like he had no part in this failing, leading to angry gamers attacking Ids music guy for literally doing his best to fill in for Micks incompetence.
Good music or not Mick Gordon is a snake.
Edit: The worst thing is that people are giving Mick a pass because "He's an artist" but this is bs. The tracks were all composed and finished, all he had to do was the mixing which as a musician myself is no where near as demanding as the composition.
Don’t worry guys, you can still cheat in single player. Bethesda will sell you the cheats in the future mtx store. Impossibly hard boss? Buy 30 minutes of invincibility, only $3.99. How about 2 hours of bonus damage, only $1.99. Aren’t we so lucky?
God, the Alucard voice
It like fucking Gollum.
Bitches love cannons.
Id: We will no longer work with Mr. Gordon.
Me: You Dodged a bullet with that one Mick.
Bethesda is going to start charging $10 for every mod you apply in Skyrim.
Isn't that what creation kit is basically? Lmfao
Funny how volvo tried to do just that but brainless idiots keep repeating PrAiSe GaBuN LoL...
@@KuK137 except it didn't happen?
I formatted for a whole fresh windows installation after DOOM did this shit...hoping they go back on it so I can actually finish the game
The dude on the left looks like a Dollar General version of Aaron Rodgers.
Ralph's face at the beginning "I only love him cuz he's my brother"
Don't ever change Sam... ... Not ever...
"At least something has been mixed now... right?'
2:13 After he said "Denovo", Sam was looking over trying to say something to Ralph.
I can imagine in the future when I lunch my pc and 6 anti cheat programs starts and lag my pc
You press the on button and wait for approval to start. Then lag.
And 3 of them are actually spying programs
As long as I know it has a problem with security."It presents a severe, clear, and present security risk to any system" I mean how could they do that? It's a crime against your consumer.
*hugs physical console collection*
Ralph cringing out of existence at Sam's explanation of what a kernel is was about the most fantastic thing ever.
Such a troll with the fallout 76 hat 😂😂
2:40 I’m waiting for Morpheus to say- “He’s starting to believe”
Bethesda can’t do anything right. I’m done with this company.
WOW what an intro. The Lamon Gamón meme machine just never runs on fumes.
That opening scene had me dead 🤣
My new personal policy going forward regarding Bethesda games is to wait 3 months before I consider buying a Bethesda game. I had thought that Doom was safe from Bethesda's meddling, but I was wrong.
You want Bethesda? THEN DOWNLOAD DAGGERFALL UNITY for FREE on PC and it has some amazing Mods and any bugs have been almost completely fixed and still being worked on.
The "it just works" sucker punch at the beginning fucking floored me.
I just hope cheaters stay out of my mainframe and vibe when I play cyberpunk and halo: infinite
Cyberpunk is actually DRM free (over at gog) buy it and its 100% yours, they really don't give a shit if you cheat in a single player game
8:35
I was there, Gendalf. I was there 3000 years ago when Wolfenstein: Youngblood launched. And the very first patch they ever released for this game included only one "fix" - the ability to farm in-game currency with Cheat Engine.
SO does this mean you cant even install cheats to mess around in singleplayer?
I mean, why would you? There's literally every conceivable cheat for Eternal in its campaign. Every power-up, every gun, etc. Though my question is, who the hell would cheat in something like Battlemode? It's literally just meant to see how good you are from playing the campaign and pitting you under new circumstances. There's not prize money in it, it's just a matter of seeing how good you can get. If you want cheats, just play the game and collect the 16 codes by completing the campaign fully. But leave it to corporate to think they know best and decide to smear Hugo and Marty's hard work in all the demon feces Todd could find.
I use cheats a LOT in single player games to make the game do things it never should.
I mean if you're cracking the game like that for shits and giggles(like to get something like big head mode if that existed or third person) I get that. I was just meaning like functional cheats that serve a distinct purpose, the kind that people would normally mod in, like the ones I listed.
ID: creates good game
Bethesda: we'll see about that...
I knew something sinister was bound to happen with doom eternal due to bethesda. Just separate from them already ID software.
How do we know this wasnt id?
@@saladv6069 because Bethesda is the one with the reputation that backs this up, always go for the simplest answer first.
id Software doesn't have the funds to survive without being owned by a major publisher. If it wasn't for Zenimax buying them, id Software would have gone under and wouldn't even exist anymore. This is a fact. id Software cannot survive by themselves anymore, like they did in the 90s.
Also, Zenimax/Bethesda Softworks owns id Software - which means that id Software can't just say, "Screw you, we're leaving". They don't have that power, even if they had the funds to survive on their own.
@@saladv6069
Anyone that's a massive fan of id Software and their developers know that this is not something they would willingly do. id Software is actually a really good, honest, passionate company. They legitimately care about their fans and the 'art' of making games. They listen closely to their fans and they know exactly what would please fans and what would anger the fans. They do everything in their power and budget to please their fans; and they do everything in their power to avoid making fans displeased and hostile.
id Software has operated like this ever since they were founded in the early 90s.
As I said, this is simply not something id Software would willingly do.
@@DeadPixel1105 and now id says it was them
Can the comments section please stop blaming Bethesda Game Studios for Bethesda Softwork's actions? It doesn't help your case.
Id software should just leave Bethesda, Bethesda breaks everything they touch at this point
Bethesda: We can’t let Riot be more infamous than us!
Does anyone know how to detect if I accidentally installed this type of malware on my PC?
Try Malwarebytes its free.
Right click Start button/Windows logo, select "Run", type "services.msc" then look for "Denuvo Anti-Cheat updater". If it's not there, It wasn't installed.
Removing it is done through "Uninstall programs"
If you remove it you won't be able to play the game so beware.
Just torrent the game. Easy solution
the castlevania intro was PERFECTION
I'm taking a stand. I requested a refund for Doom Eternal on Steam just now to send a message to Bethesda so that hopefully they learn a lesson before Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 releases.
Same here but I got denied
@@RathalosEmperor Me too. I tried twice and got denied twice. I think they realized that there was going to be a flood of people requesting a refund after the first people posted how they got their purchase refunded even though they pre-ordered and already played a bunch of hours.
And come to think of it. I don't know if refunding outside the 14-day window would hurt Bethesda at all anyway because they already got paid by Valve. If Valve accepts, it might just be Valve that eats the cost of the refund.
Aww fuck how could you show even a snippet of the dancing pole-bearers, now I have to go watch that again, because it absolutely slaps.
This is one of the benefits to a console. While a computer may currently provide a better experience, a console provides an extra layer of separation between a developer. publisher, or third party to your main system. This is why I use a console to play the game first, and then if I enjoy it enough I'll save up again to purchase it for my pc. It's saved my ass and pc on more then one occasion.
Todd Howard: fucks up Doom
Pirates with cracked copies: its free real estate
Bethesda tries ruining an Arch Linux user's kernel
Arch User: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move, I use Arch btw.
brainfuck.waifu I read somewhere that, because of the Denuvo update, Doom Eternal can’t be played on Linux?
@@mikealpha6717 I know that, it's just meme.
Ring 0 OR Kernal, is just the fundamental raw access to literally every function of the computer
This is why I pirate all my PC games when they first come out.
Unfortunately, I can’t do the same on PS4 yet.
"This is why I pirate all my PC games" So what's the convenient excuse you want to pirate PS4 games?
@@weaverquest i believe he trying to say he will buy it if the games has no problem or issues like this. I have done the same for sekiro, seeing that it runs smoothly in my laptop, entertaining, and worth every cent in its purchases.
Cutter Elf do I need an excuse?
Me and my friends haven’t bought a game on PC for years. You can pirate a new PC game easily. It happens more than you think.
When pirating becomes available on PlayStation, I’ll do it.
Luqman Hakim I’m not saying that all.
I just don’t buy PC games because I don’t want to.
There are whole forums and websites dedicated to to pirating PC games.
@@shaun7389 Yeah that's what I figured. I just wanted to point out that when you said "this is why I pirate..." it sounded like the reasoning was the malicious denuvo update, but not all PC nor any PS4 game has it so that didn't make sense before.
Its been like 5 years since i took the dessition of NOT buying games on release and wait for discounts... smart smart smart
It’s so disappointing to see so many people uninstalling and being negative about doom. This game deserved all praise it’s gotten up till this point and is a crying shame that such a great game has mixed reviews on steam just because Bethesda can’t let a good thing stay good. I’m normally not one to spit hate even if I do agree with it but I honestly hope Bethesda crashes and burns. They really do embody everything wrong with the gaming industry right now. If any company deserves financial ruin after destroying their reputation it’s Bethesda.
This is about the modding scene and TES 6. Remember Todd said he was waiting for the technology. Here it is. This enables them to wall the garden and cut the Nexus out of the market.
They tipped their hand with the paid mods fiasco and the current state of the creation club, which disables numerous mods because of simple value and tag id changes made by Bethesda.
Damn 40 seconds
Gotta get that Davy Jones organ theme going...you know shits going down
I bought Doom Eternal day 1 and didn't like multiplayer at all. I should not have to keep up with stupid Dunovo for single player.
P.s. It should have included tdm or something like that.
I'd love a 2 player coop experience.
Tdm is for call of duty. Doom has a different type of audience. That's why they had monsters. Admittedly they didn't do a good job of it but DOOM has never been about multiplayer.
What if they did a 4 player horde mode coop
Love the thumb nail and the intro. That Todd looks so evil with his head super imposed on Doom slayers body