Just keep track of how many dungeons a person quit. If they can keep track of how many creatures you kill, certainly they can apply that to m+ dungeons.
there may be reasonable occasions where they had to disband. i legitimately had to leave a Raid group after running out of time to play. they need to do better than simply keep count of how many times people leave.
''The sort of behavior we actioned was EITHER without regard for the experience of their fellow players, OR in some cases, even deliberately intending to harm others’ experiences.'' This definitely implies that they banned more than just intentional griefers that leave the moment the key starts for funsies. Id say people that leave the moment anything goes slightly wrong definitely fall into the ''without regard for the experience of their fellow players'' category while the griefers are in the ''deliberately intending to harm others' experiences'' category. And if you ask me that's great.
Worst thing about the heirlooms is, they are usually way behind the current itemlvl. The closer you get to 70 this gap increases up to around 80 ilvl difference. For the record, that's about the distance between lvl 80 nhc dungeon to myth raid gear... Tbh, the costs for the upgrades in relation to what you get, are questionable at least. Also, with the birthday even and everything around most people will have boosted so many chars and so high level, that those items won't be relevant for this addon at all... I don't get why they don't simply unlock upgrade the moment you hit max level with any character in the current addon.
heirlooms were fun when gold actually inflated from expansion to expansion - now they're a horrible investment no matter what currency you use for them.
having leveled Toons since TWW began, the Heirlooms are barely better than Questing Greens of the same level, they have been nerfed. this pisses me off, because i have spent hundreds of thousands of gold to keep them up to date, i want them buffed.
Yes lets make m+ have no timer and no challenge and it should give better loot than mythic raids. While we're at it why not make the dungeons automatic like a garrison mission or something. Clown
Why does key depletion exist aside from discouraging people doing what all mid-talent players do to get better? They’re all just memorizing the dungeon mechanics and you still waste your time by failing to time it.
The toxicity will never leave as long as people think they are going to be MDI champions. Blame blizzard for making it competitive. Thats like saying they are going to fix toxicity in pvp lol
lol cant fix what isnt programmed into the game, there have been assholes in the game since all the way back in Vanilla, they just SEEM more prevalent because the internet is here to announce their existence. Toxicity will always exist in WoW, the best that can be done is REDUCE it and that will come with improving M+ as a whole, because compared to Delves, it's nothing short of dogshit.
I haven't had someone leave a timed key in years, and I use my key 90% of the time. People leave more often than not on 12+ keys as those are purely for Rio, and if it's a dead key, there is no point in finishing it.
The fact that people still do this on + 10s make the people saying they do this because its not going to be timed sound like idiots. You still get hero loot for +10 and your Mythic vault slot. Youre not a MDI champion and you wont ever be. So stop being so hyper fixated on IO.
Heirloom gear is still relevant until you hit 60, then the gear from drops and rewards vastly outweigh the heirlooms, even if the heirloom has been upgraded to scale up to 70. They need to buff the heirlooms to keep them relevant through that gap, otherwise it's not worth upgrading them to 70. Are they necessary though? Eh... I like them because they smooth out the leveling experience so when you do world quest you aren't needlessly stalling your grind with long TTK or survival. That said, leveling has become so quick, I have entirely too many alts.
even pre-60 i've noticed them not being as powerful as they should be, as someone who once spent almost a million gold getting them to 69 (Giggity!) i want my Gold's worth, dammit! slightly better than Crafted DF Blues @ 70, that's all i ask.
I love my upgraded heirlooms, the fact they keep scaling while you rapidly level it's a godsend, the secret is to upgrade them with easily obtainable timewarped badges.
those Heirlooms we love have been nerfed without us realizing it. they are no stronger than Questing Greens of the same level. i've noticed this while leveling new Drakthyr alts.
I haven't had someone leave a timed key in years, and I use my key 90% of the time - way over two hundred runs in total this season. People leave more often than not on 12+ keys as those are purely for Rio, and if it's a dead key, there is no point in finishing it, success rate of 12+ keys is ridiculously low.
Ill blame blizzard by making things in wow little by little easier and faster. People got used to it so now the smallest inconvenience is seemed as very annoying
@@Flirt136depleting a key punishes the key-holder alone for a potential failure of an entire party. If you got a +12 key, it means you can run +11; forcing you to run it again is just a time sink, it doesn't make the game easier or harder, you are just punished with no chance to learn from said punishment. Either allow us to pick tiers like you would for delves or do something else - current system is just punishing players for playing the game.
Ive kept my heirlooms up to speed for a long time, I have 27 characters. Using the 20th event I got all of my toons to max lvl in a few weeks running only timewalking dungeons. So for once all my characters hit lvl cap before the 'launch event' for the next expansion. Heirlooms are just about useless now, they are to low ilvl, they cost to much, they don't really speed up the lvling, and they arent even upgradeable till the end of an expansion. What are the point of heirlooms? just to be gold sinks and nothing else now. They need a large rework, as well as missing pieces added in like belts, gloves, etc. They should be equal to blue dungeon gear of your current level like they used to be, now they are like whites ilvl.
This raises an intriguing question-if the titans are not as benevolent as we once believed, could this mean that we might find ourselves at odds with the Dragon Aspects we aided during the Dragonflight expansion?
no, because even they are starting to see the Titans differently, as Azeroth was the one who bestowed them their power, not the Titans. the Titans merely forced her to grant them that power, or they simply took credit for Azeroth making them sentient. to a degree, the Primalists were right all along, but that doesnt excuse their actions.
AHHHHH the title scared me. you meant the people who are jerks not the people who just cant play :P but really though i worry that now those same people instead of just leaving will instead mess with the group until they do or else die over and over until the key fails
The concern I have with the Titans is we hands down have killed some of them, and we have grown a lot in power since then. How exactly are they supposed to be a challenge?
We went from killing a titan in Legion to struggling against bees in The War Within. Don't ask questions, just consume the product. It doesn't, and won't make sense any time soon.
It's not "Titans are not the good guys" that's the problem. It's that they sold the Chronicle as THE lore encyclopedia, until Steve confirmed Pyro's "Titan propaganda"- theory.
No they haven't. I've left the game after 18 years because of a bust up I had with them about bad players, their own attitude was equally as bad so that was the end of it.
Maybe time to remove M+ and throw the gearing system into delves? The toxic behavior wont improve so they might aswell remove the competetive side of PVE and instead make it fun. A instance you run against the clock and you are rewarded a class set for clearing every instance within the time limit. And a token to buy mounts or pets as reward for each instance cleared within the time that would ve way more fun... wait... thats what they introduced in MOP where gearing trough hc instances and normal raid before trying the time limit instance. So we should take back the FUN in mythic instances again and take away the gearing option? HOLY SHIT THATS A GENIOUS MOVE!. If someone gonna argue against this then i want to see a good way to fix player behaviour without tons of work for blizz
@@UltimateGamerCC he has made one for every patch. we are near the end of the current patch and he usually makes several reports to show early data and such.
Finally it really has become disgusting how toxic the community can be i have played since 2004 and i never recall it being as bad as it is now,and they definetely should take a look at classic for this too and in more things than mythics.Whenever i see a new player and he does a mistake or smth silly 90% of the time everyone is ready to go at his throat for mundane things even let alone M+ and i dont even get why wow has become so toxic
Obviously people who want to leave but dont due to fear of penalty will just play lethargically instead. This is dumb. You cannot force people to play. This is a fundamental problem with M+.
So Bell, check it out. Please go to retail Stormwind, in the back where the additional races are camped out at, in the back is a teleporter to the Vindicarr. Use that teleporter, go to the front-end of the ship and just WATCH Azeroth Spin. It's incredible, but it's also telling of freaking wrong we all read the map of Azeroth.
And their abusive players who abuse the report system should be suspended and banned, too! You have allowed this type of behavior more than the actual use of the auto report system.
Have you even tried? How were those people toxic? Did they expect you to do mechanics or deal damage perhaps? In a timed game mode no less? How dare they?!
So you mean the over reaching, unjustifiable punishment of players with que bans for the crime of an internet issue was in response to M+ BS What shock.
I‘m very negatively impressed of the discussion and also of the communication of blizzard. I‘m totally against this ban culture, they ban players because of their mismanaged gaming style in this M+ stuff. I have to admit i‘m not a M+ player, just in the lower segment but why are they dont make the game accessible in every stage for all. Also funny is how it was discussed in the community. The people were blaming each other but blizzard created this toxic environment by implementing things like the scores and a philosophy of fomo.
How is M+ not accessible? The "access" is having a strong group of similarly skilled players. Most people who seem to talk about lack of access tend also to be players who don't know how mechanics work or what spells must be kicked, or when to run instead of tunnel dps. At the end of the day, you can join communities of like minded players.
@ From my perspective is the access of finishing the M+ and not have the fear of getting kicked or whatever by not understanding or being slow of getting the mechanics. To build a group or building a strong group with skilled players is totally fine. So why dont find other ways of rewarding more experienced players. Thats were blizzard could find ways
People actually use heirlooms?? I've not used an heirloom since... well I cannot actually remember when, questing provides everything you need as you level and the XP bonus isn't that great when you consider how everything in game is designed to make you level fast.
Lmao the Rag server will be banned..... Not all of the them obviously, but a section of these problematic players of this caliber like that I have seen has came from there and the Sargeras server, hope the the over all well being of Mythics become a little bit more friendly. At the end of the day it is PVE, people should be helping one another tackle the "environment".
Not really, he could also just be influenced by the old gods who want you to discover all of that and disrupt the earthern operations. Idk why you jump straight to world soul it could be a billion things. It could literally be dread lords
Current game design is making leaving sensible option though... If there is absolutely nothing else there for players than few funny numbers to score and one mistake costs the key. After that mistake there is no reason to carry on with the ruined key. However I do carry on with those keys if others want that since there is something to learn or test still and well, playing is fun 😅 Blizzard should make staying for the whole key somehow attractive instead of banning people. Even though most of the people getting bans here might actually just deserve it.
I actually switched to Ascension wow, the community is so much nicer and helpful and not toxic . the game is fun to play again and the people are fun and entertaining to interact with. Even though i have played retail for the past 20 years , i find retail unhelpful and toxic. its no fun to play alone , not to mention dungeons and raids are very difficult to do solo at level. Ive tried to make new friends after all my friends left years ago. But its hard to make friends when you are old and everyone is 20 years younger , we have nothing but the game in common. i still dabble in retail , after all i have so many years there and remade toons just are not the same ( to me anyways, id like to think each of my toons has a personality and that cant be remade in a new game.)
@@jaronweaver I am kind of speaking about keys higher than 10. And the situation where you get all the crests and +10 runs for that week in a day. There should be some kind of progression or endless grind on top of those caches and crests or otherwise we face the situation where there is no reason to complete key if pretty much anything goes wrong 🤔
@@Paulfromwish Yeah well people are going to play them anyway... And Blizzard could do something to encourage staying a bit more. I feel like that would be more effective than fear of getting randomly banned.
I got my account silenced for talking smack in rated pvp matches. Yes, I got a few warnings but I continued doing it. So my account was censored. I was allowed to play but I could not talk to anyone, not even people on my friend's list. Needless to say I quit shortly after that. I was already on the verge of quitting because the game was stale, but the excessive censorship was the final nail in the coffin. People have ignore buttons. There is no reason to censor an entire account when ignore options exist.
@@Hekk. Yea, I got a big mouth and can't hold back sometimes. That's why there are ignore buttons in the game. But Blizzard rather censor. Well, good for them. I'm 100% done with the game.
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Just keep track of how many dungeons a person quit. If they can keep track of how many creatures you kill, certainly they can apply that to m+ dungeons.
there may be reasonable occasions where they had to disband. i legitimately had to leave a Raid group after running out of time to play. they need to do better than simply keep count of how many times people leave.
''The sort of behavior we actioned was EITHER without regard for the experience of their fellow players, OR in some cases, even deliberately intending to harm others’ experiences.''
This definitely implies that they banned more than just intentional griefers that leave the moment the key starts for funsies. Id say people that leave the moment anything goes slightly wrong definitely fall into the ''without regard for the experience of their fellow players'' category while the griefers are in the ''deliberately intending to harm others' experiences'' category.
And if you ask me that's great.
Worst thing about the heirlooms is, they are usually way behind the current itemlvl. The closer you get to 70 this gap increases up to around 80 ilvl difference. For the record, that's about the distance between lvl 80 nhc dungeon to myth raid gear... Tbh, the costs for the upgrades in relation to what you get, are questionable at least.
Also, with the birthday even and everything around most people will have boosted so many chars and so high level, that those items won't be relevant for this addon at all... I don't get why they don't simply unlock upgrade the moment you hit max level with any character in the current addon.
heirlooms were fun when gold actually inflated from expansion to expansion - now they're a horrible investment no matter what currency you use for them.
having leveled Toons since TWW began, the Heirlooms are barely better than Questing Greens of the same level, they have been nerfed. this pisses me off, because i have spent hundreds of thousands of gold to keep them up to date, i want them buffed.
Sounds like a fundamental problem with M+
Yes lets make m+ have no timer and no challenge and it should give better loot than mythic raids. While we're at it why not make the dungeons automatic like a garrison mission or something.
Clown
@@Flirt136 who hurt you haha
@@leonard6277 The stupidity of people who are proud of that stupidity instead of being ashamed
Why does key depletion exist aside from discouraging people doing what all mid-talent players do to get better? They’re all just memorizing the dungeon mechanics and you still waste your time by failing to time it.
@@Flirt136 it should not be possible for someone else to brick your key. I don’t care how they solve that issue, but it needs to be solved.
It took the SOOOOOO long to do something about the M+ trolls now another few years to fix the toxicity and loot in M+
The toxicity will never leave as long as people think they are going to be MDI champions. Blame blizzard for making it competitive. Thats like saying they are going to fix toxicity in pvp lol
lol cant fix what isnt programmed into the game, there have been assholes in the game since all the way back in Vanilla, they just SEEM more prevalent because the internet is here to announce their existence. Toxicity will always exist in WoW, the best that can be done is REDUCE it and that will come with improving M+ as a whole, because compared to Delves, it's nothing short of dogshit.
I haven't had someone leave a timed key in years, and I use my key 90% of the time.
People leave more often than not on 12+ keys as those are purely for Rio, and if it's a dead key, there is no point in finishing it.
The fact that people still do this on + 10s make the people saying they do this because its not going to be timed sound like idiots. You still get hero loot for +10 and your Mythic vault slot. Youre not a MDI champion and you wont ever be. So stop being so hyper fixated on IO.
What about the crests bro?
@@Pokeritno crests when u leave.
Heirloom gear is still relevant until you hit 60, then the gear from drops and rewards vastly outweigh the heirlooms, even if the heirloom has been upgraded to scale up to 70. They need to buff the heirlooms to keep them relevant through that gap, otherwise it's not worth upgrading them to 70.
Are they necessary though? Eh... I like them because they smooth out the leveling experience so when you do world quest you aren't needlessly stalling your grind with long TTK or survival. That said, leveling has become so quick, I have entirely too many alts.
even pre-60 i've noticed them not being as powerful as they should be, as someone who once spent almost a million gold getting them to 69 (Giggity!) i want my Gold's worth, dammit! slightly better than Crafted DF Blues @ 70, that's all i ask.
I love my upgraded heirlooms, the fact they keep scaling while you rapidly level it's a godsend, the secret is to upgrade them with easily obtainable timewarped badges.
those Heirlooms we love have been nerfed without us realizing it. they are no stronger than Questing Greens of the same level. i've noticed this while leveling new Drakthyr alts.
@ ya that way you can still enjoy the dopamine hit for item upgrades for a brief moment.
I haven't had someone leave a timed key in years, and I use my key 90% of the time - way over two hundred runs in total this season.
People leave more often than not on 12+ keys as those are purely for Rio, and if it's a dead key, there is no point in finishing it, success rate of 12+ keys is ridiculously low.
I hate how fickle the community is when they run into speedbumps in dungeons.
Ill blame blizzard by making things in wow little by little easier and faster. People got used to it so now the smallest inconvenience is seemed as very annoying
When Heirlooms came out they were supposed to be equivalent of blues, but they way went back on that
Just remove deplete system!
They should also remove any sort of challenge from the game right?
@@Flirt136depleting a key punishes the key-holder alone for a potential failure of an entire party. If you got a +12 key, it means you can run +11; forcing you to run it again is just a time sink, it doesn't make the game easier or harder, you are just punished with no chance to learn from said punishment.
Either allow us to pick tiers like you would for delves or do something else - current system is just punishing players for playing the game.
@Flirt136 the challenge doesn't lie in the actual deplete
Ive kept my heirlooms up to speed for a long time, I have 27 characters. Using the 20th event I got all of my toons to max lvl in a few weeks running only timewalking dungeons. So for once all my characters hit lvl cap before the 'launch event' for the next expansion. Heirlooms are just about useless now, they are to low ilvl, they cost to much, they don't really speed up the lvling, and they arent even upgradeable till the end of an expansion. What are the point of heirlooms? just to be gold sinks and nothing else now. They need a large rework, as well as missing pieces added in like belts, gloves, etc. They should be equal to blue dungeon gear of your current level like they used to be, now they are like whites ilvl.
This raises an intriguing question-if the titans are not as benevolent as we once believed, could this mean that we might find ourselves at odds with the Dragon Aspects we aided during the Dragonflight expansion?
no, because even they are starting to see the Titans differently, as Azeroth was the one who bestowed them their power, not the Titans. the Titans merely forced her to grant them that power, or they simply took credit for Azeroth making them sentient. to a degree, the Primalists were right all along, but that doesnt excuse their actions.
AHHHHH the title scared me. you meant the people who are jerks not the people who just cant play :P but really though i worry that now those same people instead of just leaving will instead mess with the group until they do or else die over and over until the key fails
The concern I have with the Titans is we hands down have killed some of them, and we have grown a lot in power since then. How exactly are they supposed to be a challenge?
We went from killing a titan in Legion to struggling against bees in The War Within.
Don't ask questions, just consume the product. It doesn't, and won't make sense any time soon.
M+ is already full of toxic and whining players... Kinda useless mode. Kicking some of these who made it like that isn't helping.
lol L take
It's not "Titans are not the good guys" that's the problem. It's that they sold the Chronicle as THE lore encyclopedia, until Steve confirmed Pyro's "Titan propaganda"- theory.
EVERYTHING is propaganda. There is no arbiter of truth. Truth is just a matter of perspective. There is no retcon. You fooled yourself.
No they haven't. I've left the game after 18 years because of a bust up I had with them about bad players, their own attitude was equally as bad so that was the end of it.
You can’t improve a toxic system by forcing people to play when they don’t want to.
But you sure can ban toxic people for leaving keys and creating a toxic invitonment 😃 let them think twice about joining a key
They aren't banning people who occasionally leave dungeons. This only affects an incredibly small percentage of players who are consistently doing it.
That's why they're giving them the break they so obviously are looking for
if i will get banned for to many failed mythic plus then i just wont do them anymore. not worth the risk. They just made it more toxic.
@CarlosSpicyweiner-iv8mq sounds to me like they made it better
At last they do something about leavers m+
Maybe time to remove M+ and throw the gearing system into delves? The toxic behavior wont improve so they might aswell remove the competetive side of PVE and instead make it fun. A instance you run against the clock and you are rewarded a class set for clearing every instance within the time limit. And a token to buy mounts or pets as reward for each instance cleared within the time that would ve way more fun... wait... thats what they introduced in MOP where gearing trough hc instances and normal raid before trying the time limit instance. So we should take back the FUN in mythic instances again and take away the gearing option? HOLY SHIT THATS A GENIOUS MOVE!.
If someone gonna argue against this then i want to see a good way to fix player behaviour without tons of work for blizz
can you make a video talking about the Tinker class pls Bellular
no, F Tinkers and F anyone wanting them. they'll be the very DEATH of Engineering.
People think that the play is time wasting if get no reward, this is the dead of the fun. This is toxic.
People who leave after one wipe in Mythic+ are the real issue...
Where is your activity report video about the success of this expac?
too early, we are literally only 1/3 into it. you cant be making a report without complete data.
@@UltimateGamerCC he has made one for every patch. we are near the end of the current patch and he usually makes several reports to show early data and such.
Yet they can't still ban bots that a blind man could find out that they are bots
Cool fact: If you've ever killed an insect or animal on purpose, you are exactly as "evil" as the Titans.
Finally it really has become disgusting how toxic the community can be i have played since 2004 and i never recall it being as bad as it is now,and they definetely should take a look at classic for this too and in more things than mythics.Whenever i see a new player and he does a mistake or smth silly 90% of the time everyone is ready to go at his throat for mundane things even let alone M+ and i dont even get why wow has become so toxic
Obviously people who want to leave but dont due to fear of penalty will just play lethargically instead. This is dumb. You cannot force people to play. This is a fundamental problem with M+.
They should just delete depletion. It fixes problem with leavers and much more.
So Bell, check it out. Please go to retail Stormwind, in the back where the additional races are camped out at, in the back is a teleporter to the Vindicarr. Use that teleporter, go to the front-end of the ship and just WATCH Azeroth Spin. It's incredible, but it's also telling of freaking wrong we all read the map of Azeroth.
damn. I'm so early, there are more bots in the comment section than real people.
And their abusive players who abuse the report system should be suspended and banned, too! You have allowed this type of behavior more than the actual use of the auto report system.
Toxic people keep me from doing any sort of Mythic dungeon. I'd rather use that Random Dungeon Finder.
Have you even tried? How were those people toxic? Did they expect you to do mechanics or deal damage perhaps? In a timed game mode no less? How dare they?!
Mass DC's incoming.
It's frustrating. Because they drop off around 70.
understatement really, they BARELY meet with level 70 gear, let alone the 71 TWW Crafts.
So you mean the over reaching, unjustifiable punishment of players with que bans for the crime of an internet issue was in response to M+ BS What shock.
I‘m very negatively impressed of the discussion and also of the communication of blizzard. I‘m totally against this ban culture, they ban players because of their mismanaged gaming style in this M+ stuff. I have to admit i‘m not a M+ player, just in the lower segment but why are they dont make the game accessible in every stage for all. Also funny is how it was discussed in the community. The people were blaming each other but blizzard created this toxic environment by implementing things like the scores and a philosophy of fomo.
How is M+ not accessible? The "access" is having a strong group of similarly skilled players. Most people who seem to talk about lack of access tend also to be players who don't know how mechanics work or what spells must be kicked, or when to run instead of tunnel dps. At the end of the day, you can join communities of like minded players.
@ From my perspective is the access of finishing the M+ and not have the fear of getting kicked or whatever by not understanding or being slow of getting the mechanics. To build a group or building a strong group with skilled players is totally fine. So why dont find other ways of rewarding more experienced players. Thats were blizzard could find ways
@@sceve3290 It's funny when people with IQ below 80 such as yourself have such strong opinions.
Time to buy deathwing hell yeah brother
Sargeras did nothing wrong
People actually use heirlooms?? I've not used an heirloom since... well I cannot actually remember when, questing provides everything you need as you level and the XP bonus isn't that great when you consider how everything in game is designed to make you level fast.
that is SUCH a lie, Heirlooms do not fill up your slots and even if they did, they'd filll them once with no guarantee that the gear is good.
whats that damage meter?!
Lmao the Rag server will be banned..... Not all of the them obviously, but a section of these problematic players of this caliber like that I have seen has came from there and the Sargeras server, hope the the over all well being of Mythics become a little bit more friendly. At the end of the day it is PVE, people should be helping one another tackle the "environment".
mythic plus is horrible, please delete and bring back hard more heroics that were original (Ulduar style)
Old heroics were as hard as today's +4, lol.
There go all the tanks.
@@maleusgaryn8227 Are you the representative of all tanks or something? Tell us more
@@Flirt136 no, just that tanks are the ones that quit the most. Anything goes wrong and they're out.
Won't people just Alt F4 now instead?
they can also delete their account while they're at it.
lol so the excuse of greefers as why M+ is not on the auto group finder is a problem with out it. GG
nope, you cant just put random players to do M+ after +2
Blizzard gas gotten so lazy they wrote the story to allow them ti ignore the lore now
lol yeah, keep pretending that you know the lore. what Bellular pointed out shows that you most certainly dont.
Bell i'm gonna be honest those plushies are lame and just funko pops with extra steps.
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Not really, he could also just be influenced by the old gods who want you to discover all of that and disrupt the earthern operations. Idk why you jump straight to world soul it could be a billion things. It could literally be dread lords
Wow, there will be noone playing +13's anymore then, huh?
oh well...
Current game design is making leaving sensible option though... If there is absolutely nothing else there for players than few funny numbers to score and one mistake costs the key. After that mistake there is no reason to carry on with the ruined key. However I do carry on with those keys if others want that since there is something to learn or test still and well, playing is fun 😅
Blizzard should make staying for the whole key somehow attractive instead of banning people. Even though most of the people getting bans here might actually just deserve it.
I actually switched to Ascension wow, the community is so much nicer and helpful and not toxic . the game is fun to play again and the people are fun and entertaining to interact with. Even though i have played retail for the past 20 years , i find retail unhelpful and toxic. its no fun to play alone , not to mention dungeons and raids are very difficult to do solo at level. Ive tried to make new friends after all my friends left years ago. But its hard to make friends when you are old and everyone is 20 years younger , we have nothing but the game in common. i still dabble in retail , after all i have so many years there and remade toons just are not the same ( to me anyways, id like to think each of my toons has a personality and that cant be remade in a new game.)
Then you should not be pugging mythic plus keys if you are just gonna leave and brick his key
It’s on 10s when you want them for vault then someone just leaves it’s selfish.
@@jaronweaver I am kind of speaking about keys higher than 10. And the situation where you get all the crests and +10 runs for that week in a day. There should be some kind of progression or endless grind on top of those caches and crests or otherwise we face the situation where there is no reason to complete key if pretty much anything goes wrong 🤔
@@Paulfromwish Yeah well people are going to play them anyway... And Blizzard could do something to encourage staying a bit more. I feel like that would be more effective than fear of getting randomly banned.
They left you in so no they didn't ban everybody.
LOL i replayed it a few times... you said blutterfy :D hehehe keep up the good content tho
I got my account silenced for talking smack in rated pvp matches. Yes, I got a few warnings but I continued doing it. So my account was censored. I was allowed to play but I could not talk to anyone, not even people on my friend's list. Needless to say I quit shortly after that. I was already on the verge of quitting because the game was stale, but the excessive censorship was the final nail in the coffin. People have ignore buttons. There is no reason to censor an entire account when ignore options exist.
Bruh
@@Hekk. Yea, I got a big mouth and can't hold back sometimes. That's why there are ignore buttons in the game. But Blizzard rather censor. Well, good for them. I'm 100% done with the game.
You mean the casuals?
lol yeah right, this is your ilk doing the leaving, Andy.
@ who’s Andy
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