How to dress... in the 11th century AD in middle Europe
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2020
- This special edition of "How to dress..." shows a realistic reconstruction of male clothing and status in the 11th century AD. Middle Europe was part of the Christian world and took part in different armed conflicts. So one goal of the reenactment group II. Pennon FFC (Franko Flämmisches Contingent) is, to reenact the battle of Hastings 1066 AD. Different armend soldiers and fighters represent individual belongings and also civil appearance.
As a textile archaeologist it is of great interest to use very well dressed reenactors to get a lifelike idea about the epoch.
Everything the reenactors wear is based on archaeological finds, iconography (e.g. tapestry from Bayeux) from the 11th century or literature from this time. A lot of research belongs to recreating clothing. Enjoy these short videos to get an idea how individuals looked like, yet using the same sources!
와 되게 신기 하다 외국인 옷 입는 모습 우리랑 완전 다르니까 너무 신기하고 멋있다, 어떤 판타지 영화 보는거 같아..
반지의 제왕? 브레이브 하트? 그런거 보는거 같아...
와, 여기서 한국인 발견하다니. ㄷㄷㄷ 그러고보니 중세판타지도 중세 기반이니까요
Very nice to also see underwear, I feel like this topic hasn't been touched a lot.
Is there a reason why this gentleman changed his tunic and hoses other than these items getting dirty in battle?
Yes you are very right, reconstructed clothing from the early middle ages is quite rare.
He is probably changing the tunic to protect the fancy one from getting damaged. As he is not the ultimate leader, this seems plausible. If he would be one rank higher, he could be in the position to wear fancy clothing also in battle. :)
Very interesting indeed! Wouldn't imagine civians clothing being so ... sofisticated in a way. Am curious though, the cloth loin before the braies is it for modesty or is it acurate ? if so makes it two pairs of braies it seems, no?
Thank you for the question and sorry for the late answer! Underwear is actually quite rare but also plausible. It's not a must-have, a lot of reconstructions go without out, to be sure.
Nice video! More of that pls :) Do you think a separate coif under the maille shirt was a real thing? I only hear that separated coif came in to existence about th 13th century.
Thank you very much!
Indeed is the archaeological and iconographic evidence for a coif in the 11th century very rare. Most of the reenactors wear a padded tunic to make the chain mail easier to handle. So this is most of the time a compromise for active fighters and personally as an textile archaeologist, I don't mind if they wear something similar to a coif, as you can not see it when he is wearing full armour 😅
@@relictronja9958 I think Luke refers to the maille coif. AFAIK in that period the maille coifs were integrated to the maille shirts as one piece. In the case when the shirts had no integrated coif, the helmet then would have maille sewn to it.
For now I commit the same "reenactor" pecadillo, but I always make a point of telling it'd be a single piece rather than two.
@@Mtonazzi ah right, sorry now I understand! This probably has something to do with the kitguide of the FFC, I can look it up, how they interpret this together with the tapestry of Bayeux!
@@relictronja9958 I do reckon joining them is not an easy task and perhaps they have the kit from years ago, like in my case (mine's from over a decade ago, and back then we didn't know better and assumed lots of things we now have certainty that are wrong).
@@Mtonazzi alright! Talked to the guy in the video and he is very aware of the discussion whether or not to wear a separate coif. He pointed out that there is a good discussion going on here: www.angelfire.com/empire/egfroth/HastingsCoifs.htm
I think there is not much evidence and it would be better to wear an attached one. But you know there is progress in everything. Thanks for the input and sorry again for the first confusion :)
Where are the informations for the hats from? Never found something about hats.
Dear Manuela, please have look at the other answere I gave on your second comment 😊 thanks for the question!
I have a question regarding the rectangular cape and the tunics .
Were they made using twill, felt or loden?
How thick was the padded undertunic? Did they really wear this kind of padding under the mail? It's a question of genuin curiosity, because I've read that in that time, people who wore mail, didn't use padding (although it would be logical to do so) and proof of soldiers doing it came up a lot later.
These are good questions!
We have very few finds if felted or loden textiles in clothing. Most of the identified textiles for clothing are woven. In the Middle Ages mostly twill (2/1 or 2/2), but tabby is also common.
The padded undertunic is just an interpretation with no to very few references in pictural sources.
@@relictronja9958 awesome!
Thank you very much for the response. I want to see myself a square cape and most examples you find in modern day catalogues are loden. Its comparable to tunics, who are mostly made of cotton or unicolour cloth.
Can I still wear 2/2 and 2/1 in the early and mid 12th century?
Was the same kind of twill used for Beinlinge?
Sorry to bother you with my questions but when I do something (like medieval outfits), I want to do it right.
@@I_Willenbrock_I oh yes, in the 12. And 13. Century twill was very common. You can use either 2/1 or 2/2, same for the Beinlinge, as twill is kind of stretchy, so you can sew them really tight.
What music is this??
Oh it's just a public track from the Microsoft video editor, where you don't need a license or anything else. Catchy right 😉
I have doubts about "civil" clothes presented in this video. Unlikely that peasants would be able to afford this outfit or use it on regular basics. You should do an update with peasants clothes as they represented 90percent of the population.
Dear Motoko Kusanagi, thank you for your comment. Indeed is this one person here not representing clothing of one whole population. The difference between "civil" and "armed" in this video only belongs to this one (higher) status of solider/sergeant. I could have also used the terms "unarmed" and "armed". Different statuses are indeed important to show and will be produced in the future with different reenactors. Thank you for the suggestions 👍
@@relictronja9958 No need to thank me as this will be harder to reenact. ;) Every painting - ilustration focused on nobles or clergy so we know less about peasants. On the other hand materials for a peasant outfit are cheaper. But this is a challenge to try to find differences in peasant clothes through centuries - they existed but we simplify things by presenting "a medieval peasant" to cover 400years with one picture. But information is scarce. Like peasant haircut in the XI th century no information about this.
It's actually quite accurate for a common farmer or towns folk, who are civilians but maybe not a peasant
som things are wrong for that time
Good video - awful music.