ABANDONED steam engine junk yard Oregon

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • I was not tresspassing
    I actually met the owner in person who was happy to allow me to film this video
    i will answer questions
    music
    frosty morning, bela fleck
    lonely cycote, the wayfares
    "Highlander's Farewell" by The Lonesome Sisters and Riley Baugus

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  • @Fedora5957
    @Fedora5957 6 лет назад +54

    That is NO junk yard-- THAT IS A GOLD MINE! SAVE SIERRA #18!

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  5 лет назад +6

      the rumor has it that 18 and all the other native sierra locomotives are willed to railtown1897

    • @davidblakeman7165
      @davidblakeman7165 4 года назад +11

      Restore them all. We will need them after a big solar flare and everything goes black.

    • @hugothomas1199
      @hugothomas1199 3 года назад +4

      Yes restore them then the steam population will rise!

    • @zuestoots5176
      @zuestoots5176 3 года назад +2

      @@davidblakeman7165 you do know that if things are turned off off during a flare, they will likely run like normal after words..

    • @Graulas
      @Graulas 3 года назад

      @@DeathValleyLumberCompany as in they get hold of them after the previous owners death?

  • @FletcherFinance
    @FletcherFinance 6 лет назад +8

    Santa Maria Valley RR locomotive is far away from her home tracks on the central coast of California.

  • @johnerikson7094
    @johnerikson7094 8 лет назад +13

    Why doesn't someone purchase some of these engines and try to preserve them? IRM hasn't had a steam locomotive added to their collection in years. Heck, it doesn't have to run, it'd just be a nice display piece! You know, clean it up, put some paint on it, make it look pretty! And if at some point the bill fits, restore it to operating condition!

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  8 лет назад +8

      he is actually trying to work deals on a couple of these things
      multaple museums including sierra railroad are trying to aquire certain locos

    • @raymondleggs5508
      @raymondleggs5508 7 лет назад +2

      IRM has tons of locomotives including ines with wheel arrangements that there are no operational locomotives of like 0-8-0, I do think there is a FEC 0-8-0 that is being restored to operate.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 7 лет назад +1

      Raymond Leggs, Was being restored. The person who owned it died several years ago and the place it was stored forced its removal. There is a youtube video of it making the trip. It is on a friendly railroad so there still is a chance for it. That railroad just bought back one of it's former locos and is going to restore it back to operable condition.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад +1

      where can I get more info?
      I cant seem to find anything

  • @DanielPRails
    @DanielPRails 4 года назад

    Holy smokes! So much history and stories and miles just sitting there. Interesting video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks

  • @darioinfini
    @darioinfini 4 года назад

    So... not actually abandoned.
    I met Mr. Fleck and seen him in concert many times. He's a BEAST!

  • @gregorydahlen2103
    @gregorydahlen2103 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for the wonderful video ... and I too loved the appropriate soundtrack!

  • @The20thCenturyLimited
    @The20thCenturyLimited 8 лет назад +5

    Awesome vid Jake! the music is gr9 too!

  • @navelriver
    @navelriver 6 лет назад +1

    I had no idea such things still existed! National treasure!

  • @donkirk6829
    @donkirk6829 7 лет назад +2

    From what I've heard in the past, Fred has offered units before; but at an extremely out in space price. Then there's the issue of the passenger cars that went to the YWRR. The railroad claimed they bought them and Kepner said he only loaned the cars to them (that's what I've been told). Our hope is that when he finally passes on, someone will want to sell them at a reasonalbe price; and that they are worth restoring. I've seen a couple of them when they sat at the Cottage Grove Depot along I-5. That was in early 2000's and in bad condition then.

    • @donkirk6829
      @donkirk6829 7 лет назад +2

      There is one YWRR passenger car left and one or two baggage cars (the one for sure is on wheels). Beings that i most likely will have a need for them on an abandoned line that I am a in talks to get, I began talks with the current management of the YWRR about them and he said to offer a price. I'm going down in two weeks to Redding; and will stop and inspect them while in-route either too or from Redding. Anyone know their condition; and also their value. Only the passenger car has trucks and is on live rail. The baggage car is on trucks but on isolated rail and another car (if it's not the Amtrak unit, that's not for sale), is not on' trucks, but sits on blocks. Give me an idea as to their condition and worth. I really am going to work to get them. Need some YWRR units saved and operated in tourist or museum service.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад +1

      they are in poor shape
      this past summer we went up there and saw what was left of the place
      the cars are mussing interior parts and have been vandalized including broken windows
      but there not to far gone!
      easily repaired

    • @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos
      @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos 4 года назад +1

      @@DeathValleyLumberCompany Those cars at YWRR have been sold to the Oregon Coast Scenic Railroad (OCSR).

  • @timmcneil1536
    @timmcneil1536 8 лет назад +1

    thank you for the video documentation. still its sad to see them being neglected like this.

  • @daveydoodle86
    @daveydoodle86 7 лет назад +2

    Awesome video. Saw 2-6-2 105's tender but didn't see it in your video unless I missed it?

    • @Michael-eg3rs
      @Michael-eg3rs 7 лет назад +1

      or just the tender is still standing.if so I think the 105 met every steamers nightmare.

    • @daylightbigboy
      @daylightbigboy 6 лет назад +1

      105 and her tender are there. The tender is the one that says VSP&SSR or something like that on the tender, I can't remember the road off hand. It was a tourist line that ran in the 60s and 70s somewhere up in Oregon. The whole line has since been ripped up. I've got a United brass model of the same engine :)

  • @RustyOldF250
    @RustyOldF250 6 лет назад

    As much as i hate to see these machines just sitting, with proper steps to store them, this is one of the best places for them. I.E. Its hot and dry, low humidity. Until someone comes up with the money to restore them, or Fred decides to let go of them, they're in a decent place. Right now the biggest threat is jealous souvenir hunters stealing parts. I'm assuming these are on private property?
    On a side note, I love the music! What band(s)?

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  6 лет назад

      I always thoght that, most of the builders / number plates were removed and put in storage

  • @831BeachBum
    @831BeachBum 6 лет назад +6

    Wow! I thought aircraft boneyards were cool but this is awesome.
    Thanks for posting this video.

  • @danielt.3152
    @danielt.3152 4 года назад +1

    It would be great to restore a few to working order. Maybe its time for a "gofundme" and we raise a million $'s, We could do it! I would bet that people would pay good money to go for a coach ride in style thru the Sierra Nevadas and listen to some good music and kick back with a few cocktails. It just takes vision and will power.

  • @nitrate100
    @nitrate100 6 лет назад +1

    the old guy knows what he has. and i bet every last one is spoken for in the end,

  • @buffplums
    @buffplums 4 года назад

    It’s a shame some of these old locos couldn’t be restored

  • @kcirrednosrednad3596
    @kcirrednosrednad3596 5 лет назад +1

    I'm digging thatch over Freightliner he has there.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  5 лет назад

      There were multiple cool old trucks on site,
      I think he might use them to tug engines around

  • @gravelydon7072
    @gravelydon7072 7 лет назад +1

    Sad seeing Pickering # 8 like that. I saw Steamtown's Meadow River # 1 when I was there 16 years ago. It is in worse shape than #8 and even it could be restored with enough money. But that is the problem with almost all RR museums, lack of funds or management who runs off those that have them. And I'm sure Cass knows about #8. ;-) They lost Bemis Lumber Co 3256 to the NC Transportation Museum when they couldn't get the overload permits they needed to get it out of NC many years ago.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад +1

      it would be neat to see it go out to cass
      who knows where she will end up.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад

      any plans to restore meadow river #1?

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 7 лет назад

      They said I could come up and work on it any time I wanted. But it likely will never be restored there. It isn't a PA loco and really would be out of place there except for display or switching duties.
      Not sure I can still fit in my green Steamtown overalls but I can still fit the NPS/Steamtown volunteer hat.;-)

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад

      lol
      it should come out here to OERM

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад

      do you think it would be available?

  • @allanegleston4931
    @allanegleston4931 3 года назад

    i remember seeing # 38 WHOLE at railtown, that was a long long time ago.also remember 18 there too. neat on the pickering equipent.

  • @michaelqendro9825
    @michaelqendro9825 5 лет назад

    They were NOT abandoned, just stored until a time when they would be scrapped or restored.

  • @nhgypsy65
    @nhgypsy65 6 лет назад

    What a sad little graveyard.

  • @CSXEMDTrainLover
    @CSXEMDTrainLover 8 лет назад +1

    awesome train video

  • @smuckerooney
    @smuckerooney 5 лет назад

    There is something terribly sad about this. Excellent video though.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  5 лет назад

      I see it as a good thing, they could end up in parks and rust like crazy, but they are sitting in a dry climate waiting for a new home, a few are forsale as well

  • @SunnySelena420
    @SunnySelena420 3 года назад

    Where in Oregon is this exactly. I don't know of you still answer questions but I'd love to go here.

  • @arbuthnotmumsboy8178
    @arbuthnotmumsboy8178 4 года назад

    Had a quick look through the comments and was surprised nobody had mention Dai Woodham and the Barry Island miracle here in the UK. Check it out.
    Great video, thank you sir.

  • @NaYawkr
    @NaYawkr 6 лет назад

    More sensible and way cheaper to pay the Chinese or the Vietnamese to build new ones that only look old, that way they can be safe, meet modern requirements for use on modern railroads and the Insurance premiums to own them wouldn't bankrupt the people who want to find a profit making use for them. BTW, did that Australian Fella ever actually have the Chinese or the Koreans construct a new Titanic the way he said he would ?

  • @kc4cvh
    @kc4cvh 5 лет назад

    I didn't think there was a surviving steam locomotive in the USA that hadn't already been revived or at least cosmetically restored and put on display.

  • @RollingEasy
    @RollingEasy 5 лет назад

    God........ The amount of steel I could load up here and just keep coming back for more....

  • @jaspertherailfan2146
    @jaspertherailfan2146 Год назад

    Hey, isn't this Fred Kepner's collection? Oh by the way some locomotives have been sold to the Oregon Coast Scenic Railroad

  • @joebarber4030
    @joebarber4030 3 года назад

    Been there, a step back in time for sure

  • @gordrichardson1553
    @gordrichardson1553 6 лет назад

    Interesting video to be sure but the cornpone music is certainly an annoying distraction. What's wrong with silence, or soft relaxation type music?

  • @chubby7570
    @chubby7570 6 лет назад +1

    am I the only one that thinks this is sad and that steam locomotives were fucking cool!!??

  • @Wag2112
    @Wag2112 6 лет назад

    I have never seen a three truck Shay with its tender ripped off before ! ???

  • @VFRSTREETFIGHTER
    @VFRSTREETFIGHTER 7 лет назад

    There are a handful of engines sitting derelict next the the Tillamook Air Museum's Hanger in Tillamook Oregon. Unfortunately the coastal weather has been hard on them.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад

      2 truck Heisler right?

    • @VFRSTREETFIGHTER
      @VFRSTREETFIGHTER 7 лет назад +1

      I'm unfortunately not sure what they were, but i think so, it was well over 5 years ago, but whatever they were they were in far worse condition than these locomotives. Makes me sad to see them sitting there rusting.

    • @milwmodeler3752
      @milwmodeler3752 7 лет назад

      The Heisler's inside the hanger

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад

      they have a heisler?

    • @milwmodeler3752
      @milwmodeler3752 7 лет назад +1

      Arizona Eastern Railway #3.

  • @mollycaz1
    @mollycaz1 3 года назад

    Any thing worth saving there that could run again

  • @ishirotanaka
    @ishirotanaka 3 года назад

    To my understanding, This is actually all a private collection.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  3 года назад

      That's correct it all belongs to my friend Fred

    • @ishirotanaka
      @ishirotanaka 3 года назад

      @@DeathValleyLumberCompany yeah, the fred Kepner collection. I know he owns 3 Locomotives from the Sierra Railway and in all Honesty I think he should sell them back to or donate them to Railtown 1897, since it is Their home railroad. But i’m sure he’s not willing to give them up. But Railtown is operated by the california state parks service so If he did, he can be sure that they’ll be in good hands and possibly even restored to Operation.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  3 года назад

      @@ishirotanakathe State of California is the last batch of people you want in charge of historic rail equipment, altho I hear Fred has it in his will that the Sierra stuff goes to rail town when he passes.

    • @ishirotanaka
      @ishirotanaka 3 года назад

      @@DeathValleyLumberCompany in his will huh? What about the other locomotives in his collection, what’ll happen to them?

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  3 года назад

      @@ishirotanaka just sitting for now

  • @dracoarton94
    @dracoarton94 3 года назад

    As of 2021, have any of these engines been saved?

  • @charger19691
    @charger19691 6 лет назад +89

    Imagine if these old titans of the railways could talk. Amazing stories would be told!!!

  • @ginnymiller2448
    @ginnymiller2448 6 лет назад +51

    I love this. Wonderful that these old beauties are still in existence. Many MANY old steam engines and their components were scrapped for metal in WWII and are sadly gone forever. These old trains are a rare link to our past.

    • @Waty8413
      @Waty8413 4 года назад +2

      WW2 actually delayed a lot of steam locos from being scrapped. There was a huge demand on railroads during that time period and not nearly enough diesel power to go around.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  3 года назад +2

      @@Waty8413 that was for the bigger stuff that ended up getting scrapped after the war, scrap drives took numerous pre 1900 era locomotives that are irreplaceable at this point

    • @Dulaman107
      @Dulaman107 Год назад

      @@DeathValleyLumberCompany "Irreplaceable". I always hate that word when it comes to machinery, because if enough people cared, building a new one would be far from impossible. If you can get the design drawings of the locomotives, with the right funding and facilities it wouldn't be very hard at all to make new ones.

    • @Amigafur
      @Amigafur Год назад

      Yeah... No. WW2 extended the steam era. Diesel production all but stopped during the war.

    • @adubz54
      @adubz54 10 месяцев назад

      There is one group doing that @@Dulaman107

  • @billdavison5920
    @billdavison5920 6 лет назад +17

    I worked on the vernonia Southpark and sunset r.r. when I was 10 yrs old 55 years ago in Banks Oregon

  • @juliehamar7822
    @juliehamar7822 5 лет назад +11

    Thank you Fred for saving these Locos.And a new generation may restore them to running condition one day.Rather than dragging them out to sit dead in a museum.They're not going to rot in Oregon nice and dry.

  • @TheNoogaRailfan
    @TheNoogaRailfan 8 лет назад +35

    I ultimately have the sudden urge to work my butt off and get one of them suckers.

    • @SierraRailway
      @SierraRailway 8 лет назад +2

      Unfortunately, most are not for sale, or they would have gone their separate ways years ago. People have talked about the Sierra engines finding better homes for years, but a serious offer on any of them has yet to be made and accepted.

    • @PersonManManManMan
      @PersonManManManMan 6 лет назад +1

      Di it man this is you're chance

  • @scottfirman
    @scottfirman 6 лет назад +19

    Like the old guy down the road that refuses to sell his old cars sitting in a field. By the time he dies,they are too far gone to restore. I had to see that happen. His kids were mad also. They got nothing but scrap value because he didn't do anything to preserve them. Same thing going on with those trains. Sad.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  6 лет назад +10

      that could possibly happen, but fred does his best to keep these engines preserved by storing them in a very dry climate and covering up the locomotives smoke stacks
      they should be safe for a good while

    • @abergethirty
      @abergethirty 5 лет назад +9

      He's more than likely saved them from being scrapped in the first place. There isn't droves of people looking to spend the time and money to restore these things.

  • @TheShadeTreeFixitMan
    @TheShadeTreeFixitMan 8 лет назад +34

    Neat old boneyard. Thanks for taking us along. If only they could talk.

  • @gregbrakedust4057
    @gregbrakedust4057 6 лет назад +47

    My god, I've lived in Oregon my whole life and I've never heard of this. Planning a trip already.

    • @jackpalmer19
      @jackpalmer19 4 года назад +1

      No dont I live here there is nothing to see

    • @terrier_productions
      @terrier_productions 4 года назад +1

      You will need permission from this sight owner

    • @terrier_productions
      @terrier_productions 3 года назад +1

      @The Model Trainer yes but it’s on most likely someone’s land.. it would technically be trespassing.. just because it’s abandoned doesn’t mean the land it’s on is not owned by an individual

    • @terrier_productions
      @terrier_productions 3 года назад

      @The Model Trainer storage

    • @terrier_productions
      @terrier_productions 3 года назад

      @The Model Trainer I don’t want to get into a fight with you, good fellow.. just forget I said anything please

  • @emdman1959
    @emdman1959 7 лет назад +23

    It saddens my heart to see all those beautiful old steam engine just sitting there rotting away, it is almost a fait worth than being sent to the scrappers torch.

    • @microbusss
      @microbusss 7 лет назад +1

      yeah & I even wanna save the Sierra RR 4-4-0 at Old Tuscon Studios & get it back in operation grrrr!

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад +7

      that's Virginia and Truckee #11 "Reno" she is in the process of being purchased by a foundation but I don't know if they will pull it off

    • @microbusss
      @microbusss 7 лет назад +1

      yeah? I hope they do!
      & convert it back to running on coal!

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад +1

      sounds fun, I dont know of any way to contact him but his name is fred kepner

    • @benheatherman2839
      @benheatherman2839 7 лет назад +7

      I live near merrill and it's actually a nearly perfect area to store old equipment as this region gets less than 13'' of precipitation a year. So very little rust.

  • @KauaiPacificRRProductions
    @KauaiPacificRRProductions 7 лет назад +6

    Seeing Lihue #4 (Ex Mcbryde Sugar #1 is what she actually is) still in sort of one piece, gives me some hope and some faith in humanity. She was renumbered to 304 by Gene Autry for use on his film railroad. Hoping one day, she'll find her way back to Kauai.

    • @TrainBandit
      @TrainBandit Год назад +1

      It would be great to get her back

  • @dennisb9157
    @dennisb9157 4 года назад +3

    That SP Vanderbilt tender caught my eye. I model the SP in HO Scale and I have a model of one of SP's MT-4 Mountain steam locomotives. It has a Vanderbilt tender, just like the real ones.
    With that being said, Sierra #18 looks to be in the best condition of them all. All the others would take millions of dollars to restore. Even the GN, though mostly intact, would still cost a small fortune to restore. Sadly, BNSF does not have a steam locomotive preservation program.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  4 года назад +1

      The vandy tender is off the GN consolidation, the Sierra is missing its tender and all its hardware as well as being almost completely warn out. There's a small prarie that Apperently is a good way through a restoration but needs chassis work.

    • @dennisb9157
      @dennisb9157 4 года назад +1

      Yes yes there is Great Northern Vanderbilt tender but there's also the Southern Pacific one as well. Did not say Southern Pacific lines and set Southern Pacific Railroad and the Great Northern Vanderbilt Ender is a little bit in front of that SP tender

    • @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos
      @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos 4 года назад +1

      BNSF has allowed operations of steam locomotives such as SP&S 700, SP 4449, ATSF 3751, MILW 261, SLSF 1522, and soon ATSF 2926.

  • @FritzMcYeet
    @FritzMcYeet 6 лет назад +10

    I love the fact that one of them has frickin' *shutters* on the windows of the steam engine. That just makes it seem more dead...

  • @rvninnorthcarolina3377
    @rvninnorthcarolina3377 6 лет назад +4

    I have been involved with restorations in the past. The cost or bring a steamer up to specification and certifying it to operate can be in the millions depending on the condition of the locomotive to start with. Getting a steamer from the scrappers is relatively cheap compared to the cost of an "operating restoration". Many people have embarked on restoring a locomotive to operating condition, only stalling our do to lack of funding. One has to do a in depth inspection of the locomotive to see if it is really restore-able...let me back up, ANYTHING is restore-able if you have the funds...There are projects going on now where 50% of the locomotive has new custom components that has to be specially built because the originals are beyond repair. Most cases boilers are a "do-over", fireboxes are generally need to be rebuilt, drive cylinders are usually seized so that is another do over...the old bearing journals on the tenders are generally not acceptable on most lines so they need to be replaced with roller bearing, asbestos removal everywhere, brake systems have to be updated to be "road legal", and I could go on. If a museum has their own trackage then they can skimp on replacing the tender trucks and even upgrading brakes but my point in everything has to be considered, and it just ain't cheap...even with volunteers doing the heavy lifting.
    .
    THEN, you have to maintain it and get it re-certified. Keep in mind, the move from steam to diesel was every bit about the cost of maintaining a steam locomotive. They were expensive to keep on the rails and diesel locomotives were much easier to maintain and parts were interchangeable so repair and maintenance was also less of an issue.
    So you want to do this anyway you say...funding is the biggest issue. You have to draw in investors. You see all these locomotives and parts everywhere so you have to ask yourself, what locomotive in this yard is going to interest investors to pay to restore it. Is there something special or unique about any one of these. Is there any history beyond "just being old".
    Someone said on this comment section "I have $120,000 to spend right now"...well that will allow you to buy it, have a rigging company pick it up and truck it to...where?...if you want to transport via rail you still need a rigger to put it on a special flat car and have it secured because no mainline railroad is going to let you put that on their rails...you need to have someone look at it to see what needs to happen and you are likely looking at asbestos abatement. If you are lucky you may have enough money and available parts to do a cosmetic restoration when it is all done....but I dont see any of these locomotives that are in a condition and or have enough parts still remaining to make the candidates for restoration without substantial funds. I can tell you there are plenty of museums that have loco in far better condition that would be candidates if you can talk them out of it.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  6 лет назад

      NC Steamfan, most of these ones won't take much to get them certified, they were running recently at museums and could be broght back with minimal work

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast Год назад

      RV'n you are correct. They will cost too much to restore and when finished will burn fossil fuel. This is being phased out due to global warming climate change.
      They are a safety hazard and an eyesore that need to be cut for scrap asap.

  • @sd90mac61
    @sd90mac61 4 года назад +8

    Wow, I feel like a little boy at the candy store, I've love trains and still do, I don't own these real ones, but I've got ho scale trains about 80 different frieght cars and 17 locomotives, mostly all diesels and couple steam that do smoke, I like the self tender, with them white wall rings on its wheels, great job, thanks for sharing 👍

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast Год назад

      These locomotives are a safety hazard and need cutting for scrap asap.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  Год назад

      I fully agree
      They’re outdated for our modern society and would be better off used as tin cans

  • @UnionPacificFan-cu3pt
    @UnionPacificFan-cu3pt 2 месяца назад +2

    This video never gets old. It would be cool if they could save that tank engine from the thumbnail.

    • @Tank245
      @Tank245 2 месяца назад +1

      It has been saved.

  • @lemin3975
    @lemin3975 6 лет назад +6

    Ever since i was little i told my parents i was saving up for a car, when really i was saving up for a narrow gauge steam engine or standard gauge steam engine to run on some track near my house in nc . i hope i can find an engine for a reasonable price...

  • @stanfischer6175
    @stanfischer6175 8 лет назад +5

    I always heard that Sierra #38 was scrapped but then I heard it was simply dismantled. It would take a lot of work and money to get it to run again but its possible. A classic compound shortline Mallet that was later used for logging.
    -Stan Fischer

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  8 лет назад +2

      that thing is really warn out but it is possible for restoration

    • @robertlloyd7167
      @robertlloyd7167 5 лет назад +2

      She was built as a logging engine. She was Weyerhauser's #4 on their line out of Klamath Falls.

  • @TheAustinSubRailfan
    @TheAustinSubRailfan 2 месяца назад +1

    You'd have to be mentally insane to scrap a historic steam engine in the present day. There are so many parks and or museums that would happily take one for display no matter the condition. Also the locomotives in this yard are being restored though, right?

  • @daylightbigboy
    @daylightbigboy 6 лет назад +7

    GN 1246 is kind of a rare one, not too much GN stuff still around considering the size of the road.

    • @fabio40
      @fabio40 5 лет назад

      Reading 2100's auxiliary tender is ex-Great Northern. It looks very similar to this one.

  • @GarrettTaylorLeedy
    @GarrettTaylorLeedy 8 лет назад +7

    excellent video I like it when there are so many steam locomotives. There's a Shay and articulated locomotive. a lot of consolidation some switcher engines little bit everything. Is that like a scrap yard or some sort of junk yard. I like to know who the owner of that is that is pretty neat. I've said this a lot of steam engines are out there like that the old Woods here in Ohio there's a lot of old locomotives out there in the middle of nowhere. but excellent video well done my friend keep up the good work I like your model trains to your age shows everything you got your american flyer everything

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  8 лет назад +1

      thanks!

    • @chrishenningsen5568
      @chrishenningsen5568 8 лет назад +2

      all this equipment is owned by a man named Fred Kepner.

    • @joeypincombe8384
      @joeypincombe8384 7 лет назад +1

      +Chris Henningsen. i was just looking at the pile of rusty rails over at this video and wonder. i heard a story about the white pass and youkon railroad and with every visitor not only keep the railroad running but also goes to mantence and including addition on there trackage. so who knows. the white pass could reach the north pole. the first 3 foot gauge railroad to reach santa claus for those who still believe. and white pass is alway looking for new editions on there route with any sorce for railroad tracks. just thinking about it and with today. here is food for thought just because locomotives. have lost there purpose does it mean they should remain that way. i guess I'm just an old soul. and pass life railroad engineer a couple years ago

  • @travelingtom923
    @travelingtom923 7 лет назад +5

    I remember having debates about these locomotives 20 years ago. There was a lot of interest in several North West railway museums and quite a few private collectors. I know it was next to impossible to get photographs of these locomotives as people were never allowed on the property. Many people even wondered if they still existed. I think the only people that ever made any headway with Fred is the Mount Rainier railroad. I noticed one of their tenders on the property so I imagine they made a trade along with some cash for something.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад +1

      I heard railtown1897 wanted something from him and collected LOTS of money but he wouldn't budge
      it was probably like pulling teeth for Fred to get rid of something

    • @Traingamer5
      @Traingamer5 7 лет назад +1

      Traveling Tom what MRSR equipment do you see I can't find anything

    • @travelingtom923
      @travelingtom923 7 лет назад +1

      I am not 100% sure but the tender at 2:09 sure looks like it came from the Mount Rainier scenic railroad. I know they had quite a bit of rolling stock rusting away including tenders, on a spur about 1/4 mile from the Mineral shop in the late 90's. The number 5 has a identical tender. Maybe they had a surplus tender for the #5 that they traded for something. Logging companies often kept tenders for fire fighting long after steam was dropped.

    • @SierraRailway
      @SierraRailway 6 лет назад +1

      I don't know where people keep getting these rumors from. The tender you refer to belongs to Santa Maria Valley Railroad #100.

  • @morg52
    @morg52 7 лет назад +56

    While volunteering for a rail road museum in Minnesota, I once asked a knowledgeable person how many steam engines are left in the US. He said, more than anyone who wants to spend the money on them to bring back to working condition. All of you who are unhappy about these engines "rotting away", lets see the money. LOL

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад +12

      well said
      but the thing of it is, most of the locomotives out there are done warn out, these are in good close to operable condition
      if there was an option, these would be saved in a heart beet

    • @7.3lpowerstrokeguy2
      @7.3lpowerstrokeguy2 6 лет назад +1

      +PopsProductions124 so you have no adress I have a 120k$ yes that it right and I like old things old toys engines don't scrap them U could make 1 out of them and I'm not some guy just want the adress I aculy like them have been love old stuff I hate new and I like to build bring life back to them don't tell me U wouldent want to live forever I would like to know the adress but I'm sure your no going to ...ADRESSS IF U CAN

    • @kraigcochran9995
      @kraigcochran9995 6 лет назад +4

      And here's a something nobody is talking about, steam powered equipment has to be certified every few years by a boiler inspector which are few and far between nowadays. Plus no matter how much your steam engine is used the tubes inside the boiler has to get replaced every 5 years i believe it is and the type of steam pipes aren't manufactured in the United States anymore so your only option is to import them from Germany and there's a minimum amount that you have to order which is way more than one locomotive or any steam boiler needs so it's a very expensive toy train which has very little chance of making back the money you invest in it.

    • @maxwebster7572
      @maxwebster7572 6 лет назад +4

      German pipes would be Metric?

    • @stepvanjoe3469
      @stepvanjoe3469 6 лет назад +9

      Kraig Cochran + actually you are only half right, people with class 1 boilers licences are normally employed in industrial,commercial or power plant's today and are not far and few between as one would think. the point of the inspection is to inspect integrity of the boiler, the flue pipes inside the boiler carry the heat via draft thru length of the boiler to heat water, and (depending on the type of boiler) the flue pipes are either in full contact with the water, (immersion type) or water is totally Isolated from draught box (radiant type ) makes the difference in efficiency and maintenance requirements. also water quality plays a roll, back in the hey day of steam water was generally collected but not much was paid mind to quality i.e. dissolved mineral content, dirt, etc. and these factors played a huge role in boiler longevity. today most industrial/restored historical boilers draw water of a filtered and chemically softened water source via filters, and catalyzing inline water softeners ( same as residential equipment in operation) just bigger. And to address the pipe availability for flues these can be had from U.S. distributors.

  • @stupidsmart-phone6911
    @stupidsmart-phone6911 3 года назад +1

    Like I was telling ya, there was a day when a dump had quality. And by God, the trash in this country has gone to hell.

  • @brendanstrains9725
    @brendanstrains9725 3 года назад +1

    we need to save these engines there is a lot of locomotives. Pickering lumber #8 should go to the mt rainer scenic if it was opening and could be a running mate to Pickering lumber #11. A good place for 38, 18, 36 would be at rail town 1897.

  • @obfuscated3090
    @obfuscated3090 6 лет назад +2

    They aren't worth cutting up for steel and they are in a reasonably safe location. Anyone with serious money should hire an investigator to contact the owner, but don't bother if all you have is dreams. Cash talks and the hull cost will be a lot less than replacing boilers and machine shop work to return "locomotive shaped objects" to runners. Anyone with less money should consider donating to existing operations elsewhere. Everyone wants to see live steam in action but far fewer will help make it happen.

  • @joeypincombe8384
    @joeypincombe8384 7 лет назад +4

    Saratoga and north creek branch railroad upstate new york could always use a couple steam locomotives and that Teddy Roosevelt receved the letter that he was sworn in as president 1901. true story

  • @russellhunt5907
    @russellhunt5907 6 лет назад +5

    The Shasta Cascade railroad society in Redding would love to have these for their museum lot.

    • @markiplierfortnite69
      @markiplierfortnite69 4 года назад

      Russell Hunt i think i went there one time and yeah they have tons of engines preserved

  • @stevebarnes2
    @stevebarnes2 6 лет назад +8

    That dry desert air really does a great job of preserving those machines for future restoration. A large portion of restored steam locos here in the UK sat in a scrap yard on the south cost of Wales so as you can imagine they rusted up pretty bad.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  6 лет назад +3

      bary scrapyard right? those things were a rotten mess from what I have seen

    • @stevebarnes2
      @stevebarnes2 6 лет назад +3

      PopsProductions124 Yeah, that's the one. You should see them now though, a stunning bunch of survivors

    • @jordanbailey3289
      @jordanbailey3289 6 лет назад +1

      My engine was sat in a playground for 50 years www.gofundme.com/the-Cherwell-project

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  6 лет назад

      oh wow thats cool, how far have you gotten on it now?

    • @jordanbailey3289
      @jordanbailey3289 6 лет назад

      PopsProductions124 were in the beginning stages of restoration but desperately need funds!

  • @jfreelan1964
    @jfreelan1964 6 лет назад +4

    I wonder how many other places around the U.S. have private steam junk yards, like this?

  • @Wag2112
    @Wag2112 6 лет назад +1

    Here is another video that shows -CHECK THIS OUT ! Sierra # 38 in action in 1966 ! Great clip - but sad after seeing this video ruclips.net/video/a8v8Meu9BO0/видео.html its called Rayonier Steam Logging Railroad in 1966

  • @battle604
    @battle604 2 года назад +1

    A few months ago all the equipment was sold to different railroad museums

  • @Turitea
    @Turitea 6 лет назад +2

    All restorable, just need finance and cooperation from the owner. I have seen locos in New Zealand in far worse condition pulled from riverbeds totally restored.

  • @nssteampunk4865
    @nssteampunk4865 Год назад +1

    I believe Sierra Railway 18 was used in Duel In The Sun.

  • @mikeandmariasaeli6620
    @mikeandmariasaeli6620 5 лет назад +2

    Chris, thanks for the extinct steam locomotive video. I agree with you on the Lima built AC-9's man ! What perhaps is even more regrettable is that not one video exists of the 80 odd 2-6-6-6 Alleghenies in action from the 40's- 50's built by Lima for the C&O and the Virginian RR's ! I' d give my eye teeth to see one of those monsters, which were even more powerful than the UP Big Boys, in action on a coal drag in the mountains of WVA ! Mike S.

  • @NaYawkr
    @NaYawkr 6 лет назад +2

    What could actually make sense would be to take the biggest most powerful steam locomotives ever built, the NY Central Niagara's, and build new ones fed with oil, not high polluting coal, and make use of all the modern alloys, and technologies to make them as powerful as any modern diesel electric locomotive. That way they could actually make money for their owners. It'd be a worthy challenge if nothing else with a plausible goal.

  • @Searsnut11
    @Searsnut11 8 лет назад +4

    Very very cool. I used to know a bit about this yard of forgotten iron, but the knowledge seems to have escaped me now. An awesome video indeed. Where did you find the audio for this video? Some pretty good tunes.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  8 лет назад +2

      the first song is called cold frosty morning by Bela Fleck
      the 2nd one is called lonely coyote by the wayfarers
      the 3rd one is from this video, ruclips.net/video/RhCjYNKXNvk/видео.html

  • @jackjohnson9449
    @jackjohnson9449 5 лет назад +2

    I rode inside a steam locomotive once. It was the most thrilling experience of my life, like riding in a bomb.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  5 лет назад

      I've operated a locomotive 🤠, I have no words to describe my enjoyment of it

    • @jackjohnson9449
      @jackjohnson9449 5 лет назад

      I was standing behind one of two engineers in this Shayen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_Mountain_Sugar_Pine_Railroad

  • @lineshaftrestorations7903
    @lineshaftrestorations7903 7 лет назад +3

    It is criminal to allow these artifacts to be in this condition. You cannot buy it but I am not going to do anything with it.

    • @organbuilder272
      @organbuilder272 6 лет назад +1

      It is called - The DOg in the manger. I can't ( won't) do anything with it and you can't have it either.

    • @Itsaboutthewaterlife
      @Itsaboutthewaterlife 6 лет назад

      robert shaw: thanks: took me awhile to figure it out.

  • @oregonwesternrailroadprodu5239
    @oregonwesternrailroadprodu5239 6 лет назад +5

    Jeez I didn't realize we had all these here

  • @renardgrise
    @renardgrise 8 лет назад +7

    Excellent video... Loved the footage and enjoyed your music selection ;-). This video needs more views... I think you need to include "abandoned" in the title... seems to be popular click-bait word these days, but in your case it's genuine.

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  8 лет назад +2

      thanks
      I actually thought about putting abandoned on it but its not actually abandoned
      its owned by a man named Fred kepner

    • @renardgrise
      @renardgrise 8 лет назад +2

      Ah! Does he have any plans for this equipment?

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  8 лет назад +3

      not at the moment
      he has been slowly restoring one of them but I doubt it will be finished

    • @thanhnam8435
      @thanhnam8435 7 лет назад +1

      ТHIS ТООL FОR FRЕЕЕE SТEAМ МОNЕY IS ТТТТHЕ BЕSТ ОN ТHЕ ЕNТIRЕ WЕBSTОRЕ!!!>> stеаm еngine junk уаrd Mеrrill Оrеgоn

  • @chenoabryan8458
    @chenoabryan8458 4 года назад +4

    I am so happy that there is a no.1 tank engine left in Oregon.

  • @YinxZork
    @YinxZork 4 года назад +1

    Wow, if I'm not mistaken some are in good shape.
    They should be restored and displayed on the museum

  • @SteamCrane
    @SteamCrane 6 лет назад +3

    Satellite shows something else on the rails between the feed store and the highway.
    It looks like a crane and boom car, and a passenger car. Did you get shots of it,or was it not there when you visited?

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  6 лет назад +1

      I did film them but I never got around to putting them in this video

    • @robertlloyd7167
      @robertlloyd7167 6 лет назад +2

      I've seen it. It's a 150-ton steam crane that belonged to Southern Pacific in Klamath Falls. They were going to scrap it until Fred talked them out of it. They moved it down there for him and there it sits, with everything else. Sierra 38 was built new for Weyerhauser's Klamath Falls operation as their #4, so it's cool she's back "home". It breaks my heart to see her just rusting away. I've spoken with Fred a half-dozen times about getting grant money and some volunteers to help get at least one of those engines going again, but it's like talking to a brick wall. I'm afraid that when he passes they'll just get cut up. What a shame.

    • @stevenmitchell5435
      @stevenmitchell5435 5 лет назад

      @@DeathValleyLumberCompany
      how did you get in touch with Fred to get permission to look at the engines??

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  5 лет назад

      @@stevenmitchell5435 the only way to contact him is to drive out there and talk to him as he doesn't have a phone or a computer

  • @SouthernRaiIs1186
    @SouthernRaiIs1186 6 лет назад +4

    Who thinks diesels Trains should have never taken over steam? (I mean like why can't they run together?)

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  6 лет назад +4

      diesels are more efficent

    • @SouthernRaiIs1186
      @SouthernRaiIs1186 6 лет назад +1

      I know but steamers look cool

    • @VT29steamtrain
      @VT29steamtrain 5 лет назад

      @@SouthernRaiIs1186 And diesels are more cost effective and require less staff to run and maintain and less maintenance as well. Steam engines are my favourite though and it is nice to see a loco in operation.

  • @GSMRFan
    @GSMRFan 5 лет назад +3

    That great northern beauty needs to be steaming again. It is calling my name.

  • @garywheeler7039
    @garywheeler7039 4 года назад +1

    Squirt some oil into the joints once in a while and eventually, someone will realize that these things are no longer being produced, and have value! Help preserve our history!

  • @cellogirl11rw55
    @cellogirl11rw55 6 лет назад +1

    How can they let them rot like that???

  • @darrelldamon2745
    @darrelldamon2745 4 года назад +3

    They have served their purpose and are now retired, imagine that

  • @donaldappelhof2059
    @donaldappelhof2059 6 лет назад +1

    Even the best locomotive he has would cost a million dollars to restore. Sad to see them rot.

  • @jamesthomas2151
    @jamesthomas2151 6 лет назад +2

    It would cost you about five million and eighteen years to build, If you Wanted a steam locomotive 🚂

  • @timothytrainful
    @timothytrainful 6 лет назад +1

    I kinda want to see what inside some of cabs. Kinda Carius what they look like. Yes it would be nice to have few millions to fix up at least one or two of them just to bring them back and running again

  • @trainmaster844
    @trainmaster844 7 лет назад +51

    Thank you for showing the current condition of these engines.
    It's a shame that their owner (Fred Kepner) hasn't thought of selling them off to more deserving homes. He bought them ages ago and hasn't done a thing with them since - his reluctance to sell them is only going to make them more vulnerable to scrap merchants.
    #SaveTheKepnerSteamers

    • @DeathValleyLumberCompany
      @DeathValleyLumberCompany  7 лет назад +10

      or even worse
      they will end up in PARKS!
      thanks for watching!

    • @manga12
      @manga12 7 лет назад +11

      yes but so long as they remain around, there is always the hope that some will come back to life, but time takes it toll, but all hope is not lost, so long as they are not cut up, new metal can be patched in with many things and boilers can be rebuilt, I am sure if you sent one to strausburg they could have one up and running in short order, if you have all the parts, but if they start to just haphazardly cut them up then that is a real problem, but so long as they are there there is that slight chance they will see new life, as for cosmetic restoration well there are lots of places that could use a locomotive they have all kinds of rail cars but could use an engine, and when funds com available once the metal is stablized it can be evaluated for rebuilding, just like the fort wayne railroad will problably do for that walbash loco we have, its one of only 2 walbash rr steamers that survived the torch for now, out of all of them there are only 2 and we are slowly working on getting the thing freed up and derusted, but we always have many irons in the fire to take care of with 765 and current operations.

    • @biglittlerailroad874
      @biglittlerailroad874 7 лет назад +1

      I have actually never heard of these engines until a few days ago

    • @marblesjn
      @marblesjn 7 лет назад +4

      Hey could at least sell the Sierra engines back to the Sierra railway. If the Brits can build tornado the Sierra railway can rebuild 36 and 38.

    • @marblesjn
      @marblesjn 7 лет назад +1

      Christopher Kovacs also i believe Hank Griffiths recorded a few of these engines in action before they were sent here.

  • @oriontheraptor8119
    @oriontheraptor8119 6 лет назад +1

    If I was a rich man I would happily buy one of those and take care of them but I’m just a simple farmer boy but maybe one day who knows if possible I would take the tank engine seen at 3:52

  • @jfreelan1964
    @jfreelan1964 6 лет назад +1

    Its all about the money. That #8 shay is it a Lima product or a Willamette product?

  • @ryancrooks2515
    @ryancrooks2515 6 лет назад +5

    We too save them

  • @darknessjuanthedarknesslyo9430
    @darknessjuanthedarknesslyo9430 6 лет назад +1

    Oh I found a steam engine that looks like Nia from thomas and friends at 3:48 and that her base in real life 🙂.
    I hope they restore Nia's class 🙁.
    I Want her class back in service 🙁.

  • @frisk6515
    @frisk6515 6 лет назад +6

    I wish i could buy one xd

  • @danielross1033
    @danielross1033 3 года назад +1

    Never knew that these existed in Oregon still I hope that they are never scrapped they are a lost relic of a simpler time they will hopefully be restored and even one day put to use again I won’t be surprised if steam engines make a comeback one day

  • @fortnoxz71
    @fortnoxz71 6 лет назад +1

    can you private message me????? i'd really like to know where these trains are in oregon!!!

  • @johnmoar7658
    @johnmoar7658 4 года назад +3

    LOVE TO LIVE THERE,SOMETHING TO DO ALL THE TIME

  • @billdavison5920
    @billdavison5920 6 лет назад +1

    The engines here are the 104 and 105 and tenders.vsp&s r.r.

  • @calvinthedestroyer
    @calvinthedestroyer 5 лет назад

    If I get enough patreons I'll buy one and have it restored :) www.patreon.com/calvinthedestroyer

  • @thinker44duhhuh22
    @thinker44duhhuh22 6 лет назад +1

    If they had not been bought by Mr Kepner they would not be here at all. As long as they are ,their is hope.