High Sensitivity - Wrist Aiming (NAVI s1mple)
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- I share my thoughts and observations of the mechanics of the highest-ranked CS:GO player in the world (s1mple), a high sensitivity player.
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When i saw you made a low sensitivity Niko video i really wanted a high sens s1mple video . thanks a lot
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Yup watching both top players in the world having low and high sens makes me feel like it's okay to have the same EDPI in between
Glad that I found a wrist player and also happens to be the best!
He now plays with arm
@@tututoo6973 really?
@@tututoo6973 is his aim better or worse than before?
Nah, he still plays with the same sens
@@tututoo6973 No he does not.
Simple is an absolute chad for aiming in the middle of two potential places where an enemy could peak, he just has so much confidence that allows him to be uncompromising in his playstyle.
I’ve been waiting for a RUclipsr like you!
Awww, Thanks Tony :)
Ron Rambo Kim np :)
@@RonRamboKim your doing very well ! ! !
@@RonRamboKim pls make a video about zywoo like this one
Rambo was in Team3D in the 1.6 days. Great player
Simple: uses high sens
Woxic: allow me to introduce myself
xd woxic's sens kinda low ngl
@@huhbdh3449 yeah it's super low xd
my dpi is 1700 and my ingame sens is 3.1234 xD
@@muhammadnabilbinmohdfarid1090 rank?
Even HEN1 who plays with 3.8 it's nothing compared to woxic's sens hahaha
i like how you analyzing their postures like their basketball players trying to shoot a ball with that 90 degree angle
He just compared their postures, he did nothing amazing to be fair
I like that u attribute his reaction speed to one of the reasons why hes the best. Some people downplay the importance of reaction speed in csgo, but I also think think its important when doing things like holding angles.
But mostly pros know where to prefire so reaction time when holding is not that big of a Deal as u stress
@@devilinferno7813 that's true, game knowledge and experience can help alot in narrowing down where enemies are so they know where to place their crosshairs ahead of time too. But there are still some areas where I think reactions are important. Like trading a teammate immediately before they die and those last minute site takes where u don't have time to check every spot
excellent analysis there chief you truly are thinking the thoughts no one else is thinkin
Lowkey looking at s1mple's weapon statistics and seeing his knife kills is even ridiculous too
He's a serial killer with that knife, and has cost himself some rounds by trying to knife people haha
@@koreshura641 yeah losing games just to get the knife, might have been 2 majors ago
@@danman9847 ... nitr0
@@koreshura641 hahha remember when NAVI all tried to knife cold
A total of 101 knife kills on his professional carreer, most people don't have that in the whole time they play CS:GO
Man its so crazy that i found this channel i remember watching you play on 3D way way back in the day when 1.6 was really popping off, one of my favorite players!!! one of the best!! cool that you still do gaming content 15+ years later!!!
haha, thank you for the support :)
PLEASE do more of these insightful videos of the best pro players. It's so difficult to pinpoint what makes players great and you do a wonderfull job!
Thanks Bruce
Also something interesting to note is that s1mple hasn’t changed his sens in over 4 years, despite having changed his mouse a couple of times. Plays a huge part in his consistency.
Nope he changes resolution 800x600 then 1024x768 and now 1280x960 and when you change a reso sensitivity changes
@@prohopscs8142 Who gave you this false information? resolution doesn't change sensitivity but aspect ratio can change perceived sensitivity. However all the resolutions you mentioned are the same aspect ratio (4:3) so his perceived sensitivity is unchanged.
@@prohopscs8142 very wrong. Resolution does not change your sens
@@rdmz135 its not the same feeling scream said that
@@prohopscs8142 Scream said that when switching to stretched, which is an aspect ratio change, not just resolution. Resolution alone does nothing.
i played high sensitivity/wrist only for 5 years, 3500 hours. edpi 1600. So frustratingly hard to be consistent! Recently, I switched to 1000 edpi (which is still high) and I’m learning to use my arm. I’ve noticed immediate improvement with consistency.
Altho they have pretty similar sensitivities, elige seems to play with a very different posture and aiming style then s1mple. So can you pls make a video for elige
also he sits 5 feet away from the monitor xd
While moving, Simple's always lifting and resetting his mouse position to the neutral position and flick to enemy. Elige doesn't lift and reset as much and his crosshair is tracking corners when clearing angles, which Simple doesn't. Although they use similar high sensitivity, I think the difference lays on Elige's somehow also applying his forearm for larger angle aiming movement, just that his forearm is not stabilized on the desk. imo Elige's style is so hard to copy
@@bhavishyagogoi2241 i do that too..
idk why, i just like it
@@arnoarno4455 How you describe Elige is how I aim regardless of using high or low sensitivity. I currently use 800 dpi, 1.5 sensitivity (up from 800 and 1.2) and that's exactly what i do: use arm to track corners or flick 90/180 degrees and use wrist/fingers for ''in-range'' aiming. Mostly because I haven't played CSGO in a while and played a lot of Overwatch and more recently Diabotical, where the slightly less accurate but more ''aware'' higher sensitivity made a lot of sense. Fun fact: in those games this sensitivity is still considered ''slighty lower than average''.
This is a perfect analysis video, great how you put some much time and effort into understanding the player and then using evidence to back up your points! Great video
Tyty :)
I play on high sens because of little desk space and wanted to play at a lower one because that what most pros use. Now that I know a God uses high sens I wont be changin anymore and I'm more comfy with high sens anyways 😅
You literally dont know who the real god is..
@@EmpoweringMindBody lItErAlLy
I used 1.5 sens in csgo for like 1 month, my accuracy was nice but I really had some problems to move around ,because I'm a aggressive player who like to move around and do sketchy plays. I played for 1 day on 400 dpi and 3.00 sens I one day I felt so much comfortable then ever. Dont listen what other people say . Listen to what you need
yep, lots of people use low sens nowadays because they're just lazy to train (speaking from experience i used to use low sens). i honestly don't see how it's even possible to find it comfortable to move your arm around like crazy to play a video game
Take break in between because wrist aiming can lead to muscle fatigue and repetitive strain injuries.
@@ad-rd9ud wrong
Do you use wrist aiming?
@@Kuneho he's right
Thought I was doing something wrong by using my wrist for all horizontal movements and only using my elbow for vertical but after seeing this I think I’m doing okay. Funnily enough I aim like a fellow Ukrainian
I've been looking for an analysis like this for years. Been playing CS since 1.2 and still today i hear a lot of people talking about eDPI, crossair placement, angles, config files, gaming pads, mouses, etc.. and so little about body and hand position which i think is one, if not, the first topic when wanting to take consistent aiming to a pro level. Your analysis in spot on and the mouse pad camera is the cherry on top of the cake. Would like to see more in depth analysis like this one for other pro players. Keep up the good word man :)
Great analysis. A few years ago, I would've tried copying his sensitivity and body positioning, but now I know this is something not replicable. Each person has to find his own comfort zone. Thank you for sharing this.
Ive been doing this all along and i never thought that was high sensitivity. I actually even had to lower my sens a bit a few years ago because it was so hard to adjust horizontally by small amounts to hit heads from longer distances.
damn this video, the niko vid and the finding sensitivity vid has made me realise why ive had inconsistent aim quite often even though im 5 years into real mouse and keyboard gaming. thanks for these its amazing how much there is to learn about your body that goes into aiming
Glad I can help!
and now s1mple won his 1st major!
that s1mple video is when he first joined Liquid, so not 1,5 but over 3,5 years old.
This was actually a really great video I just tested or tried to replicate his set up the best possible and I feel already better physically
3:30 they got my man electronic lookin like a GOOBER
Lmaooo
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
lmao! it do be like that sometimes
Also, take note that he seems to use a fingertip grip style. Maybe just part of the pinky base is touching, but his fingers seem to be the only real thing touching the mouse. I think Scream uses this same style and only a fraction of pro players use this technique. It has many advantages such has much more movement since you have all 5 figures being able to make small adjustments. Rather than just your wrist or your arm making those adjustments. People say you can press the button faster which lowers reaction time (I dont know if this is 100% true). An example of much more movent is simple when practicing his AWP. He uses his fingers to push his mouse down to close to, or at this palm. The problem is you need to have pretty good dexterity to handle this type of style, and the other problem is that if you don't keep it trained like simple does, it can be very inconsistent. Other than that, its a great style that takes a lot of practice, but it has to feel comfortable to you. If it isn't confrontable its better to stick with what you use.
Dont make science out of it play the game get better use between 400 and 1200 DPI.
@@sh0wTek96 +4838843.. wtf dude calm down and just play the game
I like finger tip grip because I play instruments and it’s nice to use my finger tips to control aim as well
the thing is that s1mple understands that his impact as a player comes from the fact that he's a playmaker, someone who can turn around a round with one play and he knows that in order to do this he has to stay on top of his game, stay unpredictable and basically be a headache. on top of that, have great mechanics and basically top-notch game sense and you got s1mple.
That is so vague and could be applied to any genre lol
After viewing this video, I only realize how important a pivot point for a wrist player. I immediatelly change my PC setup which located in the center of the corner at my L Shape office desk to the side of the L shape table which help me a lot. So far tried on the AimLab which see significant improvement after I have a proper pivot point. I'd realized it when I was working today while using my working mouse to do documents on my office desk after yesterday night of watching this video.
Can you do an analysis of woxic (mousesports) ? Extreme high sensitivity player but he has performed very well for a player with this kind of mechanics. Keep up the good work! ;)
Sensitivity - 2.00
Zoom Sens - 1
DPI - 1620
HZ - 1000
Windows Sens. - 6
raw input - 1
Can you link me mouse cam videos of him?
i like how fast and accurate he is checking/preaiming corners
rly entertaining to watch
@@RonRamboKim i think ahrora made a video of him and his friends using woxic's settings and showed some clips of his mouse cam
Now that's real high sensitivity. You can call simple's mid at best.
I absolutely love this, I transitioned to PC about 2 years ago and I could never understand why there was a huge emphasis on using your elbow and arm to move the mouse. I struggled with this as I felt wrist aiming was more comfortable for me. I play on a similiar sense, with 1600dpi and edpi of 1250. Never struggled with rifle or awp
Love your videos they have helped me improved a lot
Glad to be of help :]
Finally someone who uses high Sens and wrist aim I'm not the only one
lmao idk im also used to VERY high sens i use 1600 dpi and 3.4 sens
Same here. Give me a beer mat as a mouse pad, and I'm fine. I never understood why people play in different way... it's much quicker.
Riordan Phoenix I use 4.8 lol, but I played COD for years, so I’m used to high sens
@@huhbdh3449 wtf do you move your mouse at all
@@larry6130 idk i just increased my sens to 1620 dpi with 3.4 ig
In that video he used the deathadder which he did not like but was forced to play with bc of sponsors lol (Whole time in liquid, matches too)
wow that sucks :(
so what mice did he initially use?
I remember 3D Rambo talking about high sensitivity in 1.6 early days. what a trip!
Finally. My friends been talking shit abt me playing with high sensitivity. Now see, the top player in CSGO is a high sensitivity player.
Simple has a gaming chair - the reason behind his godlike aim
buy the most expensive gaming chair, become the best gamer
@@SoftBreadSoft true
pewdiepie: who cares about gaming chair!! BUY MY FAKIN CHAIR WITH 399 ONLY!!
What a boring meme
Dude how do people even play with the keyboard tilted like that. Blows my mind.
He has his movement keys tilted as well - I dont think its ASDF
It’s because in a past there was not enough space between PC’s, so pros used to tilt their keyboards like that to create more free space, other players just wanted to copy pro players and thought that tilted keyboard is some kind of a life hack
@@brysiguy i don't think rhe copying is the reason for most players. I do it, cause it feels far more natural. I always have to move my keyboard when im typing tho
@@derda3209 Well yeah, for sure for some players it's just more comfortable cuz you get used to it as well, i was just saying that it all started cuz of those pro guys not having enought space
@@brysiguy it's easyer for your fingers to push shift and ctrl
4:16 year and a half old? This was atleast 2 and half to 3 years ago. He joined navi in late 2016.
Omg he said half 3
hearing that sub 200ms reaction speed is good for pros makes me feel better even tho my kd trash
Dupreeh has like 180 ms reaction time, reaction time is very overrated
Clean, crisp lock bois
11:33 He actually practices flicks like that. Sometimes even on stream.
Here's another video of him doing it. ruclips.net/video/aUFTIdLGQsA/видео.html
One interesting thing to point out is that s1mple's sensitivity isn't considered high in most games other than CS and Valorant. He would have a lot easier time transitioning to other games though, since he plays at 33cm/360°.
Very astute observation.Awesome!!!
awesome vid kimmy!
tyty
You could have found up to date videos on him warming up on his streams. He does it all the time.
nice analysis my friend
Ty my friend
Late comment but I did not realize that I have been playing on 8K+ eDPI for like 10+ years and it is crazy seeing how many people play on low dpi
Talking about impact, POV from s1mple dropping 33 frags on G2
ruclips.net/video/mM2Kmysr4Bs/видео.html
Enjoy
I’m a noob, but what you said at 8:25 or so happened to me recently. My wrist was all the way to the right and I got stuck with no more range of motion. Of course, I died. Lol.
How about a video on the average sens player?
Really awesome breakdown Rambo!
Thanks Mick
I saw that stairs flick on reddit a while back. Insane shot.
Watched the low sens and high sens vids. Would love to see you cover and break down mechanics of a mid sens type player with fingertip...like scream!
That's exactly how I play,hugging a tree
Mate it's how I played CS 1.6 & CZERO with my old 'non-optical' mouse back when I was a kid not knowing anything about sensitivity, dpi or anything.
As for now I'm using an optical mice with high dpi and low sens.
great video man keep up the good work :D
Ty :D
Amazing content man. Love everything about this channel. Also, don't forget, some of us remember your oldschool playing days, you're a legend bro.
Thank you :)
can u do something about zywoo
Roger that
Zywoo pls update
Typical meta build
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@@RonRamboKim thank u sir
These videos are really good i wish more videos focused on how people use body mechanics in their aim style e.g simple things like aiming up and down with finger drags up and down in claw/fingertip
tyty
his awp is actually insane
if you wanna get better just turn your keyboard 45° and play on 4:3 stretched.
How to get stretched 4:3 for valorant?
udemy: exists
my brain: thinks about the "elbow meme"
so i dont care if u are giving 90% off of your courses.
Fantastic analysis. How do you not have like a million subs?!?
Idk how this man aims so well his edpi is so high
You should make a video on woxic and elige.
@@__Nicholas__ lmao
This was really helpful, gonna try doing this next time I play cs
I'm really enjoying your videos bro. Subbed!
I've always been afraid of higher sensitivities, but this video prompted me to try them out. It turns out my perfect sens is on the higher side. I have taken all of these tips to heart and am already showing really good signs of improvement. Thank you so much for this video. It has and will, most certainly, help a lot of CS players in a similar boat as myself.
:D
I have seen this vid as well as the niko one
I must say that I’m one of those players that keeps the position after moving the mouse and keeping that position as the normal afterwards
Currently I am not able to play, but as soon as I can I will try to train to maintain consistent pivot points and resetting more on the mousepad
Never thought I'd say some of the childhood idols on YT lol. Subscribed!
Question though: any thoughts on high sens contributing more to carpal tunnel? I had one of my friends back in the CAL days who doesn't play FPS anymore due to CTS; he did have an abnormally high sensitivity but I'm sure there are other contributions too. I've always tried to be a "forearm" aimer to avoid overusing the wrist.... but there's so many advantages to using more wrist!
That's more of a genetic thing from what knowledge I have about this. If it helps with anything I played cs 1.6 back in the day for 8+ hours a day using mostly wrist aim and then league of legends on high sens using my wrist to do 99% of movement. Never had any problems. My hand was actually feeling worse with lower dpi and getting tired much faster, after I increased my dpi I felt so much better. I'd personally suggest experimenting and finding out what works for you. Listen to your body it will tell you what works and what doesn't. Of course this is just my opinion, maybe I'm the special one there haha.
Like what wrist advantages? Can you enlighten me?
Great, great explanations Rambo 👏
This is in 2019
And this is the best quality warm up vid you could find for s1mple ?
With a hand web cam yes. Can you help find a recent video?
ruclips.net/video/I0V-jrZPqkA/видео.html
No sound due to twitch auto muting copyrighted music
You can see a decent portion of his hand.
Also s1mple's keyboard hand is different from most pros
Ele treina sob o conceito da memória muscular, deu para ver. Ele é o cara. Ele e o Coldzera são os 2 melhores de todos os tempos em skill.
I still believe it is impossible to hit that last flick shot!.....maaaaaannn he's....i can't define this level of skill.....wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can you make please a video about inconsistency. That would be very nice
Simply put, the whole "consistency" talk is a huge load of hot air. Play YOUR game, and play it the way you feel it better. Don't try to copy a PRO's setting just because he's a PRO or because people tell you you have to.
if you are inconsitent the opponents are similarly skilled to you and your rank is accurate
Amazing vid man! I was just wondering about this topic too!
What do you think is the perfect distance, height and tilt to have your monitor at?
Whatever allows you to best see your crosshair and visually register the game through your eyes
Don’t be a monitor sniffer
As a person who has always played on a small mousepad with MOBA games, s1mple's aiming technique just makes sense. I tried arm aiming and it feels good but I can never land shots consistently.
Great Video man. Perfect.
Thank you Prathamesh :)
I should use s1mple as an example whenever someone complains about how I play with high sens and how low sens is better
as a high sens player i can say low sens is way easier to learn starting off but on the other hand it takes way more energy and i hate moving my arm a lot
use woxic as example
@@awpfa woxic is probably an exception. his sens is too high. no one needs to 360 in like 20 ms
s1mple uses very symmetrical position. When i did this in 1.6 many years a go my aiming became out of this world to :-) I use almost same sens like him :-) My height is very similar 1.90
Wait s1mple is 1.90? Im 1.90 as well...1.90 gang
Another good vid! Gj man
Thank you sir
You could master low or high sensitivity, but high sensitivity takes more practice in my opinion. Like, you could take a long break from gaming and come back and be pretty accurate with low sensitivity and forearm movement. It would be harder to come back from a break and be as accurate as you were before with high sensitivity.
I play just like him in my 20 years of CS, my reaction is 145~190ms... I`m a great AWPer, can do shots just like him, i`m not a passive AWPer, just quick flick HS close range.
I never had a chance to grow in CS, since i`m living nowhere... and in 2003 when i have done some tournaments, my parents that time dont let me grow out of my city.... now im too old, 36....
I learned AWP with the better AWP at that time... COGU in CS 1.5 and never lose the way and never foggot the lessons... 20 years perfecting my muscle memory. Never had a chance.
no one asked for your life story lmao
@@tokage933 I'm just saying.. i dont ask you to read.
cogu was good player :)
@@tokage933 no one asked for your shitty opinion, let the man speak his mind
Nice to see you being passionate in CS even after 35 :D
Fun fact: s1mple uses his index to hit W, middle finget to hit A, and thumb for D!
ooooh, if that's true, then that explains his super angled keyboard placement
@@invicaa
THANK YOU ! I have a bigass keyboard and always wanted to figure out how pros slant their keyboards w out breaking their wrists lol ty
Wow, i never noticed it before.
u are a legend of the game
:P
Another awesome video, thank you sir.
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great vid! would love a comparison for if slow or fast sense has advantages/disadvantages on 60hz monitor vs 144hz
bro 144 hz looks like mf motion blur
Really liking the content. Moving into a coaching position for a college esports team so if you could make a coaching video I’d love it. Love the content keep it up.
It'd be a looong video :P
Really nice video!!
Ty zeed!
Believe me high sens would be the winner! Back in 1.6 days best aimer was f0rest! And his sens(3,5) was the highest among cs players! His aim was like godlike!
The click-reaction speed tests are... kind of weird though. I averaged 190 on a 60hz panel and I average 175 or something like that on a 120hz panel. But... I'm past my reactionary prime at 30+ years old. When in-game I wish my reaction speed was that fast lmao. The in-game dynamic reaction time feels totally different to the static ''I know what's about to happen'' reaction time imho ;p
Reaction speed degrading with age is largely a myth. It may go up, but not by much at all. Additionally if you are a gamer and constantly practicing skills that require a fast reaction time I bet the degradation is amortized, or even avoided entirely. As you said, the complex reaction time where your brain actually needs to process the information coming in is much slower. Practice makes it faster.
Age related reaction time degradation is an excuse used by pros and players who don't want to put the effort in stay on top/get good.
@@blizzmademegod I've been thinking about this as well and I've noticed one trend that would probably explain a lot of this. Most ex-pro gamers (who've quit or taken a step or three back) did so because they either got a different job, hobby, wanted to focus on their family or things of that nature. I recently saw Fatal1ty play some games of Diabotical and watched his most recent play against another more recent pro: he's actually still extremely good, despite the fact that he doesn't practice nearly as much as he used to: but I think that's indeed the biggest factor. If you don't use it; you lose it ;p
@@KindOldRaven Exactly. Don't lose hope as the clock keeps ticking. :)
@@blizzmademegod Finally someone with a brain. I've had enough of trolls spamming "washed up BoOmEr" and gave up arguing, as there are no pros to back up my argument - there are simply no pros 30+ who would practice as fiercely as teenagers - mostly because they are pursuing other paths in life already. Whereas the teenager only plays CSGO all day, making it an unfair comparison.
I feel the opposite, like if I try to practice my reaction time and click when the screen turns green it’s never as fast as in a real game seeing a head. It activates a different part of brain seeing a head in an actual round versus seeing a green screen
I wanna watch f0rest one cuz he's high but so clean to move mouse
How high is he?
Rockzie 3.5 @400
@@hendrikalo you still haven't answered my question bud
@@ThatNickGuyEh he literally answer how high his sensitivity is. Now you might wanna know how much boof he be smoking but that's a whole nother question.
@@Xotwod69 I didn't ask anything about his sens though. I was just fooling around cos the OP made it sound like f0rest's stoned af but still able to do precise movements.
great job dude 👍👍
:D
That reaction time. Holy fuck.
Man that’s scary, he literally has the exact same position like I do, how he sits, the fore arm, his mouse grip. Everything 😈✌🏻
So I learned a couple things from this video. 1, with the exception of the keyboard placement, I sit like simple does, and use around the same sensitivity(A little higher I think). 2, After running 3 tests of reaction speed I average 166ms (Didn't know about humanbenchmark website until now. I'm also 31 years old...) and 3, I now have to work on "Smoothing" and general map awareness. I'm very close to proving age isn't the main factor in not being able to preform at a professional level.
I've been a wrist aimer for my whole life and really can't imagine using why whole arm.
I'm the only wrist aimer and high sens player of all my friends.
My sensitivity in Valorant is 0.35 and 2000 DPI.
I use my wrist for precision, and my forearm for swipes, flicks, etc, and I have +left bound to mouse4 , so when I swipe left and click mouse4, I 180 very fast.
800 dpi - 1.5 ingame.
My lazy arm: wait that's high?