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normal cs:go player: should i clear the left or right angle? focus on lower or upper position? woxic: lemme 360 check everything every 3 seconds just in case someone is lurking behind me
Those jitters as he rounds corners are most likely caused by friction, as kinetic friction always has a lower coefficient then static friction there's a range of speeds where if you try and move your mouse that speed without breaking static friction first it won't move, then move faster than you want it to, then come to a complete stop again. It's super visible in my aim when I use a cloth pad or when my hardpad gets dirty (also the main reason I switched to a hardpad) on my higher sens (3x1600 source/quake).
Great point. Some cloth pads have higher initial friction due to the fibers sticking up higher and conflicting weave patterns, where as others are easier with flattened fibers and slicker material and weave patterns
This is an excellent point. Another of the greatest very high sens snipers, the Korean player Pine, who played TF2 and Overwatch professionally at around 18cm/360, uses a very low friction glass pad (Maxtill G-Pad) for this reason.
I feel like everyone’s initial play style is wrist because it’s the natural way you operate a computer, so seeing someone play wrist is a lot more relatable. Literally every casual player I know plays wrist, so as a new player it’s not as apparent why or how to play from your elbow in big sweeping motions.
yeah wrist feels more natural. i've started with dpi 2400 and senisitivy 2, which is extremely high. for flicks awesome but for clearing angles and tracking enemies head horrible. it looked like woxic's. super jittery now i am down to dpi 1200 and sens 1.25. you can still play with the wrist and ellbow. i use both. but you cant do 360 anymore in one swip, on the size of a normal mousepad.
That’s how I feel as a newer pc player. How do you turn on people in FPS shooters specifically with low sense and using your arm? I feel like it’s impossible and it requires high sense and your wrist flicking the mouse.
The left handed one imo isn't really something that's amazing from him in my personal opinion because if he use left hand on his mouse it means he's left handed in everything so you get the point.
sensitivity is insane high for an game where your enemy is 80% in front of you (or else your game sense sucks) but it also looks very comfy to walk around with an higher sense, an advantage with higher sensitivity is that you are quicker (duuh) but gives you more time to compensate and re-adjust your aim! you should also look at Relaaa (former bf4 pro) he is also a high sense gamer.
Relaaa is a robot designed for the utmost speed and precision. Never has there been a aimer like relaaa and I don’t think there will be anyone even close to his speed and precision for a long time. It’s a shame that he doesn’t stream.
@@statictoilet1228 His sens on apex is 400 dpi and 3 in game that's pretty average isn't it? Does he play higher sens in other games? His flicks are definitely insane from just the clips I've seen but totally doable on even 40 cm/360 and maybe higher which would be a pretty slow sens.
Richard Moran on bf4 he played 25cm for 360 and on overwatch he played 30cm. He doesn’t really play on super high sense like quake players do but it’s just his speed and control that amazes me.
Found out the other day that I play with double woxic's sensitivity. Never even knew I play with a particularly high sens, I thought it was normal. I actually used to play even higher but then thought I'd try playing with a 'low' sens haha
haha same bro. i've started with dpi 2400 and senisitivy 2, which is extremely high. for flicks awesome but for clearing angles and tracking enemies head horrible. it looked like woxic's. super jittery now i am down to dpi 1200 and sens 1.25. you can still play with the wrist and ellbow. i use both. but you cant do 360 anymore in one swip, on the size of a normal mousepad.
@Kiko Reyes I would say it is less consistant to use accel. For example some1 peaks you around the corner with p90 or smth, and you have to adjust fast to his head. It is more random if it will hit him..
Also I'm like xantares and woxic same time. 3 sens 1000dpi 1.06 mouse accel. But I feel comfortable with my sens. I flick to everywhere. Sometimes I flick to 180 like aimbot. When I buy ssg and take mid doors of d2, people blame me cheating
Yetanothaone That video has 2.4k dislikes and 300 likes for a reason. People accuse others that have worked hard for skill like that. But if you think so, you’re perfectly right to have your opinion.
Im glad I found this channel! So much fundemental knowledge to learn here. Just wondering Rambo can you do a in depth tutorial on how to properly aim as a wrist player?
I'm currently playing with 2.5 in-game and 1600 DPI, 4000eDPI in total, didn't had a lot of space on my previous desk and I just got used to it, I wonder if that's the case for most wrist aimers
Try doing what he does with a 60hrz monitor and you're in for a very rough time, especially when you're playing a more faster pace shooter like Quake or Doom.
I love the videos man! It would be very helpful if we could see his mouse movement when you are talking about it. Even if its a mouse cam from gameplay other than whats being shown. Just something illustrative of him "making a 180 in one flick". Just my input! Enjoy the channel a lot!
I've been trying to play with a very high sens(16cm/360) recently and trust me it's a pain in the ass. It's very hurtful for my wrist and not so much worth it. It's been over a month since I've been working on this sens. It hurts a crap ton more than it benefits. Woxic is truly a gifted one to be able to control it very well.
@@sreyas7753 oh its been a while since I wrote this, Eventually it will get easier. I have even played at all the way down to 10cm/360(I think this is 800~eDpi territory). However I noticed that I am pretty inconsistent(maybe my mouse doesn't work very well with higher sensitivities?). I have a higher chance of whiffing when playing at such high sens so i dialed it back to 34cm/360(width of my mousepad -about 300 eDpi in valorant) and it feels pretty good. I can make good flicks in that 103 fov, I can't pull a 360 but meh its okay for tactical shooter.
@@sreyas7753 damn that's insane. I have shaky aim so it got even worse on high sens hence I switched back recently. I feel quite comfortable now and my aim feels reliable even on worst days.
Used to play on 2400 dpi in most fps games but the biggest problem was if i panicked and moved my mouse it would go too far, now its around 1500 but it alternates from game to game depending on how it feels. You have to be able to make micro hand adjustments and depending on how low you play, sometimes lift up your mouse. I believe the majority of wrist aimers/high sens players have their hand completely or near completely flat on the mouse bc it allows for more surface contact so its easier to make adjustments. For wrist aimers you dont necessarily have to move your mouse straight sideways. You can also move your mouse on angles, so either left or right slanting downwards and moving it this specific way allows the mouse to move less because of a simpler wrist movement with less travel.
I used to play sniper In TF2 with 3000 edpi because that game requires a lot of vertical aim/movement. High sens has many pros but when I started to play csgo I struggled a lot with It. TF2 sniping Is very fast paced and csgo Is slow, after 2 months of trying to find a perfect sens for both games I ended up with 1200 edpi my cs gameplay Improved treamendously and my TF2 aim Is more precise/comfortable. Thanks for another amazing video from you!
@@ACE112ACE112 well csgo and ow run on very different engines, I guess you can look up some sensitivity calculators that will help you come up with the same sens?
@@RIDERXC666 I don't see how high sense is ever an advantage, if you can move your hand fast enough you can have the same speed as a high sense player but have a lot more precision
would be great if for future vids you could provide info of cm/360 instead of eDPI of CS:GO, cause for ppl coming from different shooters it literally says nothing :/
Big this. A lot of the topics on this channel are applicable to not just CSGO, but all FPS, and to lesser extent _all_ competitive games, the primary audience might be CSGO players, but a lot of other people watch this channel too. "ePDI" is not only game specific, it's just in general a misleading metric that doesn't translate well across different personalized settings and to some extent even different hardware. cm/rev is a good universal metric that works across games (assuming it's a 3d space with 3 degrees of motion attached to the mouse) and different hardware and software setups.
Cm/360 seems very archaic. As a csgo Player it literally tells me nothing, because nobody except maybe woxic could even 360 without using his entire mousepad twice. And "dpi" is literally the metric that the Mouse manufacturers use. Your shitty games should just allow proper raw input configurations. I'm not going to use measuring tape to set up my Mouse with a 10% error margin, wtf.
@@Fliptheonly There are plenty of websites that allow you to calculate your cm/360. People don't use measuring tapes... Also it is not about raw input, different games just scales differently, CSGO has a sensitivity setting meaning it is not raw input either.
@@Fliptheonly I think you're confused. Raw input has nothing to do with the speed of your camera rotation, enabling raw input merely changes the method of mouse movement data acquisition from reading windows pointer movement events to reading mouse input data. This is good, yes, decouples your mouse ingame from your windows pointer speed and acceleration settings (if you have adjusted them) and allows your game to get mouse data at its polling rate, but it has nothing to strictly do with the speed of your camera rotation. What comes to "shitty games", many "shitty games" don't give you a raw input option _because they don't even give you an option to play without it._ CPI (erroneously referred to as DPI) is a measurement of the number of individual counts of movement ("dots") the sensor is capable of resolving within a inch of linear travel. First of all the state of rotation around the 3 axis of a 3d camera is not measured in "dots", and doubling your ingame sensitivity doesn't double the resolution of your sensor, but makes the output twice as coarse. Even "effective sensitivity" makes more sense than "effective DPI", but even so, it's still game specific because different games use different arbitrary values for their sensitivity settings and corresponding turn angles. If you know your CPI and the precise turn angle of your game at your settings, you can calculate your cm/rev. That's what the online calculators do, but this approach is inherently inaccurate because the implementation of the sensor on your mouse and how it plays with your tracking surface has some effect on the tracking characteristics. Still, you can calculate a good enough ballpark estimation. Same unknown variables apply eDPI too if that's not obvious, bit ironic that you'd consider that to be more accurate. Measuring the true cm/rev can be a bit crude, i guess, but it's the only way to get true results that also are directly comparable across different games. If your mousepad isn't large enough for a full revolution, i'm sure you can figure out a way to extrapolate the results you're able to get.
yo where my wrist gang at. tho vertical aiming really can be an issue. i always up the pitch sensitivity otherwise i feel stiff. (something was "missing" in the feel before i did that) tho my wrist is not stuck in place i also have to lift sometimes and slide it around
yo i've played with dpi 2400 and sens 2. now i am down to dpi 1200 and sens 1.25. lower than this, feels super crappy. i dont know how people can play with extremly low edpi.
With your sens you shous be able to do a full 360 when going from one end of your mousemat to the other. But however it is all bout personal preferance so just experiment until you find whats right for you.
I play on 2000,2.5. I tried to play with sens but i just can't play with the whole arm. Its difficult to aim sometimes because making small adjustment to the aim is hard but overall it works for me.
Jehong's technique is actually hypnotic. He uses a dpi switch for quick turns. Jjonak can use very low sens in a game that's stupid fast because he plays characters that sit at the back anyway.
I remember I seen one of ryujehong's mouse cam video like it seems legit that he never done any dpi switch or anything else what he did was a hardcore 180 spin around with his mouse on his mousepad
I play at edpi 2500 and even my mouse jitters a lot when i clear angles. Quite relatable!! Although I am just a DMG in MM but i will say that with practice high dpi almost becomes natural to play at.
One thing I think should be emphasised is just how precise he needs to be to play with this sensitivity. It's ~16cm for a 360, compare that to Niko's ~74cm/360. Woxic requires a drastically higher degree of real world precision to execute the same shots, a low sens gives Niko a relatively very large margin for error where his hand doesn't need to be anywhere near as accurate. Woxic gains the benefits of high speed, covering large angles, and strong mobility (especially while scoped) at the trade-off of needing more precision (thus making shots harder), and more uniquely to his choice of technique doesn't have intuitive vertical cursor movement. Niko gains the benefit of large margin for error physically (boosting consistency), at the trade-off of slow turning and smaller angles possibly covered, requiring more arm speed to be competitive. He makes up for much of this through superlative game sense. Two remarkable players mechanically for very different reasons, and absolute proof that sensitivity selection is about what's right for you based on your technique and your personal strengths and weaknesses. All things being equal however a high sens, if you can master it, has strengths. If you can physically bring the real world precision movement of the mouse necessary to achieve accuracy in game, you gain so many inherent advantages. Consider this, Niko has to move his mouse 4.6 times faster than Woxic to achieve the same in game crosshair movement speed. That's a big part of why Woxic's flicks can be so breathtakingly instant.
So for a bit of background I'm a former amatuer Team Fortress 2 pro player (Flowerbud) and I used to use very very high sensitivity (around 1600 to 3200 dpi with 6 sensitivity), it's still pretty high even when I made the switch to CS GO (800 dpi with 3.09 sensitivity and 1 zoom sensitivity) The reason high sensitivity players are used to it other than just using it alot is because we do alot of flicks, which makes our aim and camera movement look a lot more static and snappy instead of being smooth like low sensitivity players, we do this so we don't tire out for no reason, we also tend not to do alot of tracking movements which would wear us out alot since we dont use our arm very much Also alot of just shaking around your hand after a session lol
The whole wrist aim is harmful thing is a myth that comes from habits. Bad habits will lead to damage from any aim style. Wrist aimers must not over aim, they must keep their wrist within a health angle, and they absolutely should stretch and have good posture. Then they'll be fine. Plenty of low sens players have equally gotten carpal tunnel from bad mouse grip, and getting tennis elbow or similar from arm aim is not that uncommon. Gamers, stretch, take breaks, maintain good hydration, stop if any discomfort and change your technique or give yourself time to heal. If you ever get pain you've been bad and should have stopped, so now it's time to stop completely until the pain goes away.
😂 Was a low sens player, then I changed to a high sens. Idk how to calculate my edpi but my dpi was 1250 and my in game sens was 2.5. Then now i play kind of a low sens again. 800 dpi and 1.85 in game.
when adrenaline rush kick in, your heart beat faster, hands start shaking, you feel nervous, but here i'm saying. you're in control. adrenaline rush is extra boost don't waste it. stay focus and use that power to hit some insane frag. you can do it. trust yourself
Practice composure. Centre yourself. Do breathing exercises between rounds. It's all about control and feeling in control. And not having a fear of failure. But it is physical too, so breathing helps overcome the psychological barrier.
I love how he shakes his mouse and stuff when he isn't in a fight, i'm playing at pretty high dpi (im not as good tho lmao) but i do kinda the same except when i notice i miss a lot and stuff i just fall back and flick my mouse so when i repeak my aim 'works' again
Is my sens too high? 1.5 sens, 800 dpi 5 windows sens no mouse smoothening? I think raw input is default in csgo i havent touched that i played on 1.83 but i changed to hybrid wrist arm aiming from pure wrist for better tracking and angle holding and smoother awping
Do you think the average sensitivity of the top 20 players has increased over the year, I'm sure guardian, Olaf, get right are all quite low but this new breed s1mple, woxic, zywoo are higher would be an interesting video to see the average sens of the past years top 20
It's funny, because the older older generation of players during the quake era, everybody is going high and ones that go lower is uncommon. And then as the years go by, there's people like NiKo, Guardian, and most pros who go around 400 dpi 2-2.5 that made lower sens more common.
I have 3k hrs and was a wrist player but i developed carpal tunnel so i cannot play with my wrist anymore, i am trying to develope as an arm player or even a mix between both, i would like some advice on switching between the two
I was a 3200 dpi player and I was actually winning ranked games in r6 then my friend told me to change it to 400 dpi ( what do u think Ron should I change my sens or not?)
You should follow your heart. Sensitivity is preference and only you can know your feelings, nobody else. So go on your gaming chair and start playing with the highest sensitivity you find, then low it time in time searching for one that isn't too slow or too high, but MOST IMPORTANT one sensitivity that is COMFORTABLE and feels good for your hand.
@@hassanadel5659 DPI is just a multiplier for your sensitivity. For instance, an in-game sensitivity of 1 and a dpi of 800 is the same as an in-game sensitivity of 2 but a dpi of 400. While there are experiments people show of higher dpi being more pixel precise, it doesn't really change anything.
Woxics in game sensitivity is slightly lower to how his his cursor moves. The 1:1 crosshair:windows cursor for csgo is something like 2.5 so hes almost training his aim just using his computer all the time
But doesn't high sensitivity lack in precise headshot and vertical flick execution? Plus you can't really pull below the point where the mouse touches the bottom of your palm because of the "wrist grip".
Most headshots in CS are mostly an extent of crosshair placement, what you trade off for in "flick accuracy" you get sevenfold in the other aspects of aiming. No high sensitivity does not lack in "vertical flick execution" it is just like flicking side to side, and in fact can sometimes be more precise than low sens because you dont have to fuck around with your arm in an unnatural way to get it to push the mouse up.
@@treatz620 So, High sensitivity means much better aim and precision? But doesn't low sensitivity stand out for it's much better aim accuracy and precise shots? and in fact, it develops much better muscle memory. Speaking of other games such as PUBG (for example) where sniping requires very minute and precise movement to get those distance headshots, is where low sensitivity plays a vital role. True that Higher Sensitivity can be much easier for recoil control but when it comes to long-distance (micro-movement) shots, it's not that efficient comparatively. Thanks for the reply! 😎👍
@@notmfi higher sens doesn't make recoil easier to control, easy recoil makes recoil easier to control. "But doesn't low sensitivity stand out for it's much better aim accuracy" I literally said that in my original comment, low sensitivity is good for flicking and "minute details". Low sensitivity doesn't "develop better muscle memory" idk where you got that idea or even why you'd think that, all muscle memory is the same, it's the way you practice that will hurt you or help you. Compared to long distance shots where the pixel matters high sensitivity for the most part still holds up on it's own and will perform better under tracking based scenario's and is overall better for quick but small adjustments once you learn to control it. When are you going to be getting distance headshots with either type of sensitivity? as I recall most headshots at range if your not pre-aimed for the head are 100% luck.
@@notmfi You should not compare CS to pubg. Pubg has a different aspect on aiming and high sens is very common on pubg unlike csgo lower sens is better because of the closed space
@@treatz620 Treatz Firstly, Higher sensitivity (higher DPI) will surely make Recoil Control much more easier. Think of this, if you have low DPI (say 400) so, you have to pull down your mouse longer whereas when you have DPI (like 1600) where the mouse pull is very much less comparitively. Secondly, Yes! Low sensitivity will help in having much better muscle memory (it's not an idea but indeed a fact). Muscle memory is obviously the same for either of the sensitivity but low sense will help develop it much more efficient. Lastly, the distance headshot topic is of PUBG where sniping requires macro movements and adjustments. Here if you have higher sensitivity you can't adjust for the headshot easily as even a small wrong mouse movement will make a huge difference. BTW thanks for the replies! 😎👍
Don't need crazy accuracy as an awper. Kind of ironic but it's how the sniper in CS works. People should check out the ex pro Overwatch player Pine. Trained himself to use 18cm/360 and was a pro sniper in a game where enemies are faster and less predictable and you have to hit headshots when sniping.
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Teammate: “what are u watching?”
Woxic: “mirage “
Nicki Mirage
@@alexmullen4940 OMGGGGGG Xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
@@alexmullen4940 slow clap
What angles are you holding?
Woxic: The entire site
normal cs:go player: should i clear the left or right angle? focus on lower or upper position?
woxic: lemme 360 check everything every 3 seconds just in case someone is lurking behind me
exactly!
@@WhosThatItsNoOne that's not the point lmao
And I don’t have to throw my arm out of my socket every time I do it! Win-win
Random sweat with a small desk
Those jitters as he rounds corners are most likely caused by friction, as kinetic friction always has a lower coefficient then static friction there's a range of speeds where if you try and move your mouse that speed without breaking static friction first it won't move, then move faster than you want it to, then come to a complete stop again. It's super visible in my aim when I use a cloth pad or when my hardpad gets dirty (also the main reason I switched to a hardpad) on my higher sens (3x1600 source/quake).
Wow, someone who gets it and doesn't blame it on sens.
Great point. Some cloth pads have higher initial friction due to the fibers sticking up higher and conflicting weave patterns, where as others are easier with flattened fibers and slicker material and weave patterns
yea i have that thing with my aim also
That’s why I wiggle my mouse during down times. To keep it “hot.”
This is an excellent point. Another of the greatest very high sens snipers, the Korean player Pine, who played TF2 and Overwatch professionally at around 18cm/360, uses a very low friction glass pad (Maxtill G-Pad) for this reason.
When woxic started to play csgo he dont have big mausepad so he become like this (some turkey gamer problems)
and he's left hand user, same like me, is much easy to control high sens, ever i can play both, i can play 400 dpi with 1.55 and 800 with 1.55
@@impos1bl366 why would the hand you use make aiming high sense easier
@@michelangeloxiv2172 maybe it's a left hand thing
@@mamamiaspizzaria6649 im left handed lmao
@@michelangeloxiv2172 probably a personal thing then
His edpi was 3240, recently he lowered it to 2400
Ishan Sanyal Ahhhh that would explain
1600 dpi 1.5 sensitivity
mine's around 3200
@@xKitKat nd ur like silver 1 or elite?
Mines 400 what the fuck
I feel like everyone’s initial play style is wrist because it’s the natural way you operate a computer, so seeing someone play wrist is a lot more relatable. Literally every casual player I know plays wrist, so as a new player it’s not as apparent why or how to play from your elbow in big sweeping motions.
Im level 10 in facie GE matchmaking never played wrist , i always use my hole arm becluse thats how i started and always played and i cant change it
yeah wrist feels more natural. i've started with dpi 2400 and senisitivy 2, which is extremely high. for flicks awesome but for clearing angles and tracking enemies head horrible. it looked like woxic's. super jittery
now i am down to dpi 1200 and sens 1.25. you can still play with the wrist and ellbow. i use both. but you cant do 360 anymore in one swip, on the size of a normal mousepad.
That’s how I feel as a newer pc player. How do you turn on people in FPS shooters specifically with low sense and using your arm? I feel like it’s impossible and it requires high sense and your wrist flicking the mouse.
@@WJGSix its not impossible toke me 2 years to get used for it xD
@@WJGSix u will get used to it xD..just lower your sens a bit by a bit..
Woxic is nuts. Guy can play on the highest sens I have ever seen. PLUS HES LEFT HANDED.
The left handed one imo isn't really something that's amazing from him in my personal opinion because if he use left hand on his mouse it means he's left handed in everything so you get the point.
Ra1lgun ttv yeah I know
@@ra1lgunz268 im left handed but i use right hand to use the mouse ;)
@@uzi8252 same :P
@@ra1lgunz268 Well, LeBron James is left handed but his dominant hand while playing basketball is his right.
sensitivity is insane high for an game where your enemy is 80% in front of you (or else your game sense sucks)
but it also looks very comfy to walk around with an higher sense, an advantage with higher sensitivity is that you are quicker (duuh) but gives you more time to compensate and re-adjust your aim! you should also look at Relaaa (former bf4 pro) he is also a high sense gamer.
Niko wants to know your location
Relaaa is a robot designed for the utmost speed and precision. Never has there been a aimer like relaaa and I don’t think there will be anyone even close to his speed and precision for a long time. It’s a shame that he doesn’t stream.
@@statictoilet1228 His sens on apex is 400 dpi and 3 in game that's pretty average isn't it? Does he play higher sens in other games? His flicks are definitely insane from just the clips I've seen but totally doable on even 40 cm/360 and maybe higher which would be a pretty slow sens.
@@chamberlan888 , his sense around 20cm 360
Richard Moran on bf4 he played 25cm for 360 and on overwatch he played 30cm. He doesn’t really play on super high sense like quake players do but it’s just his speed and control that amazes me.
Always thought my ‘jittery’ micro transitions were bad but now it’s good to know that someone in the pro league state also plays like this
Love the content, bro. I just realized you are the Rambo from 3D. Good old times.
Found out the other day that I play with double woxic's sensitivity. Never even knew I play with a particularly high sens, I thought it was normal. I actually used to play even higher but then thought I'd try playing with a 'low' sens haha
Thats craazy high
haha same bro. i've started with dpi 2400 and senisitivy 2, which is extremely high. for flicks awesome but for clearing angles and tracking enemies head horrible. it looked like woxic's. super jittery
now i am down to dpi 1200 and sens 1.25. you can still play with the wrist and ellbow. i use both. but you cant do 360 anymore in one swip, on the size of a normal mousepad.
I started on 3200 dpi and 3.00 sens xD I was actually decent but now I'm on 1200x1.55
Can you make a Video about someone like XANTARES who uses mouse acceleration?
I use mouse acceleration too, it's good to have when you play with low sens. If i don't use mouse acc. I can't flick behind (180)
@Kiko Reyes no it is not
@Kiko Reyes I would say it is less consistant to use accel. For example some1 peaks you around the corner with p90 or smth, and you have to adjust fast to his head. It is more random if it will hit him..
Also I'm like xantares and woxic same time. 3 sens 1000dpi 1.06 mouse accel. But I feel comfortable with my sens. I flick to everywhere. Sometimes I flick to 180 like aimbot. When I buy ssg and take mid doors of d2, people blame me cheating
@@mustafayildirim9858 What level you play on? I am interested in that
Even though he is mainstream, I would love to see an in-depth video on Shrouds mechanics.
Shroud, the might be cheater? There are better people to "break down" than Shroud.
Yetanothaone lol I promise you shroud doesn’t cheat. But regardless, he would be an interesting topic to cover.
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Idk he's kind of sus.
Yetanothaone That video has 2.4k dislikes and 300 likes for a reason. People accuse others that have worked hard for skill like that. But if you think so, you’re perfectly right to have your opinion.
i was waiting for this
Wtf i can't believe i got a love from rambo
Im glad I found this channel! So much fundemental knowledge to learn here. Just wondering Rambo can you do a in depth tutorial on how to properly aim as a wrist player?
Loving the content as usual :)
I'm currently playing with 2.5 in-game and 1600 DPI, 4000eDPI in total, didn't had a lot of space on my previous desk and I just got used to it, I wonder if that's the case for most wrist aimers
same case of woxic
I have a lot of space on my desk, but I feel more comfortable wrist aiming
I just naturally learned wrist aiming because I’m lazy and don’t wanna move my arm much.
Lol yeah
I used to play left 4 Dead on trackpad with high sensitivity , until I got my own gaming mouse and convert the high sens setting to it
Try doing what he does with a 60hrz monitor and you're in for a very rough time, especially when you're playing a more faster pace shooter like Quake or Doom.
I used his sens with 60hz for a month, and I can say that you're not lying
I love the videos man! It would be very helpful if we could see his mouse movement when you are talking about it. Even if its a mouse cam from gameplay other than whats being shown. Just something illustrative of him "making a 180 in one flick".
Just my input! Enjoy the channel a lot!
Love this kind of commentary videos it makes me smarter ya know
Ty!
I've been trying to play with a very high sens(16cm/360) recently and trust me it's a pain in the ass. It's very hurtful for my wrist and not so much worth it. It's been over a month since I've been working on this sens. It hurts a crap ton more than it benefits. Woxic is truly a gifted one to be able to control it very well.
whats your edpi
@@sreyas7753 oh its been a while since I wrote this, Eventually it will get easier. I have even played at all the way down to 10cm/360(I think this is 800~eDpi territory). However I noticed that I am pretty inconsistent(maybe my mouse doesn't work very well with higher sensitivities?). I have a higher chance of whiffing when playing at such high sens so i dialed it back to 34cm/360(width of my mousepad -about 300 eDpi in valorant) and it feels pretty good. I can make good flicks in that 103 fov, I can't pull a 360 but meh its okay for tactical shooter.
@@peacemekka trust me 800edpi isnt high at all, mine is 1200edpi and it is rly good but i guess one sens wont suit everyone
@@sreyas7753 damn that's insane. I have shaky aim so it got even worse on high sens hence I switched back recently. I feel quite comfortable now and my aim feels reliable even on worst days.
Used to play on 2400 dpi in most fps games but the biggest problem was if i panicked and moved my mouse it would go too far, now its around 1500 but it alternates from game to game depending on how it feels. You have to be able to make micro hand adjustments and depending on how low you play, sometimes lift up your mouse. I believe the majority of wrist aimers/high sens players have their hand completely or near completely flat on the mouse bc it allows for more surface contact so its easier to make adjustments. For wrist aimers you dont necessarily have to move your mouse straight sideways. You can also move your mouse on angles, so either left or right slanting downwards and moving it this specific way allows the mouse to move less because of a simpler wrist movement with less travel.
Nice to see a fellow left hander playing at the top level.
nice vid - wish there was some footage of his hand as he is doing these adjustments
Also his pistol ratings one of the highest pistol ratings
I used to play sniper In TF2 with 3000 edpi because that game requires a lot of vertical aim/movement. High sens has many pros but when I started to play csgo I struggled a lot with It. TF2 sniping Is very fast paced and csgo Is slow, after 2 months of trying to find a perfect sens for both games I ended up with 1200 edpi my cs gameplay Improved treamendously and my TF2 aim Is more precise/comfortable. Thanks for another amazing video from you!
I wonder how overwatch sensitivity compared to csgo sensitivity.
@@ACE112ACE112 well csgo and ow run on very different engines, I guess you can look up some sensitivity calculators that will help you come up with the same sens?
@@RIDERXC666 I don't see how high sense is ever an advantage, if you can move your hand fast enough you can have the same speed as a high sense player but have a lot more precision
I used to be an insane awper with a similar sens but my rifling was trash. Now I use 1.45/400 and it's the other way around.
*sad pepe*
would be great if for future vids you could provide info of cm/360 instead of eDPI of CS:GO, cause for ppl coming from different shooters it literally says nothing :/
Big this. A lot of the topics on this channel are applicable to not just CSGO, but all FPS, and to lesser extent _all_ competitive games, the primary audience might be CSGO players, but a lot of other people watch this channel too. "ePDI" is not only game specific, it's just in general a misleading metric that doesn't translate well across different personalized settings and to some extent even different hardware. cm/rev is a good universal metric that works across games (assuming it's a 3d space with 3 degrees of motion attached to the mouse) and different hardware and software setups.
Cm/360 seems very archaic. As a csgo Player it literally tells me nothing, because nobody except maybe woxic could even 360 without using his entire mousepad twice. And "dpi" is literally the metric that the Mouse manufacturers use. Your shitty games should just allow proper raw input configurations. I'm not going to use measuring tape to set up my Mouse with a 10% error margin, wtf.
@@Fliptheonly There are plenty of websites that allow you to calculate your cm/360. People don't use measuring tapes... Also it is not about raw input, different games just scales differently, CSGO has a sensitivity setting meaning it is not raw input either.
@@Fliptheonly DPI is the same for every game, EDPI Changes because of the different values in game.
@@Fliptheonly I think you're confused. Raw input has nothing to do with the speed of your camera rotation, enabling raw input merely changes the method of mouse movement data acquisition from reading windows pointer movement events to reading mouse input data. This is good, yes, decouples your mouse ingame from your windows pointer speed and acceleration settings (if you have adjusted them) and allows your game to get mouse data at its polling rate, but it has nothing to strictly do with the speed of your camera rotation. What comes to "shitty games", many "shitty games" don't give you a raw input option _because they don't even give you an option to play without it._
CPI (erroneously referred to as DPI) is a measurement of the number of individual counts of movement ("dots") the sensor is capable of resolving within a inch of linear travel. First of all the state of rotation around the 3 axis of a 3d camera is not measured in "dots", and doubling your ingame sensitivity doesn't double the resolution of your sensor, but makes the output twice as coarse. Even "effective sensitivity" makes more sense than "effective DPI", but even so, it's still game specific because different games use different arbitrary values for their sensitivity settings and corresponding turn angles.
If you know your CPI and the precise turn angle of your game at your settings, you can calculate your cm/rev. That's what the online calculators do, but this approach is inherently inaccurate because the implementation of the sensor on your mouse and how it plays with your tracking surface has some effect on the tracking characteristics. Still, you can calculate a good enough ballpark estimation. Same unknown variables apply eDPI too if that's not obvious, bit ironic that you'd consider that to be more accurate. Measuring the true cm/rev can be a bit crude, i guess, but it's the only way to get true results that also are directly comparable across different games. If your mousepad isn't large enough for a full revolution, i'm sure you can figure out a way to extrapolate the results you're able to get.
Sorry, after calcluating, I found myself 4500edpi and still feel good~
I had a similar sens for a long time and its good for playing the awp but it gets a bit bad when holding an angle with a pistol
Imagine if he started shaking during a clutch, the game play wouldn't even be watchable lol
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yo where my wrist gang at. tho vertical aiming really can be an issue. i always up the pitch sensitivity otherwise i feel stiff. (something was "missing" in the feel before i did that) tho my wrist is not stuck in place i also have to lift sometimes and slide it around
yo i've played with dpi 2400 and sens 2. now i am down to dpi 1200 and sens 1.25.
lower than this, feels super crappy. i dont know how people can play with extremly low edpi.
we're likely more "short table gang" haha, i play like this because my table was very short, now it's longer but i can't adapt to lower sens
Teammate: "So there's an enemy behind you"
woxic: "yes"
Thats perfect sense for me cuz my mouse pad is very small. Can u do tutoriual on how to find perfect sense if you use small mousepad
With your sens you shous be able to do a full 360 when going from one end of your mousemat to the other. But however it is all bout personal preferance so just experiment until you find whats right for you.
@@afaxmachine7761 ye i used woxic sense and it was little bit too fast so now i use 3.50 400 dpi (f0rest sens idk if he still uses that one)
I play on 2000,2.5.
I tried to play with sens but i just can't play with the whole arm. Its difficult to aim sometimes because making small adjustment to the aim is hard but overall it works for me.
can you make a video about how ryujehong and jjonak low sens cause they uses the very low edpi each other on overwatch?
He already has a low sens aiming vid
ryu uses 2 sens. When he need do fast flicks he switch to high sens. Sobrenatural guy
Jehong's technique is actually hypnotic. He uses a dpi switch for quick turns. Jjonak can use very low sens in a game that's stupid fast because he plays characters that sit at the back anyway.
I remember I seen one of ryujehong's mouse cam video like it seems legit that he never done any dpi switch or anything else what he did was a hardcore 180 spin around with his mouse on his mousepad
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great vid
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Woxic is a fkn monster
this is extremely useful. i play on a higher sensitivity and would luv 2 speak with u about some brazy shit i learned recently
thanks for your work, mate!
Im left handed but never played swapping keyboard and mouse
Thanks i need this since im using 2.5 x 800 dpi
I have exactly same sens and dpi and i play mostly awp but i am good with rifles too
please make a video on shrouds aim mechanics. he uses both arm and wrist.
I play on 2.2 in-game and 800dpi ...
Damn, i thought no one can go higher than this
800dpi 3.1 right here
@@totocsgo wow!
800dpi 3.14 sens
I don't play anymore, but I used to have a 30cm square mousepad with 800dpi and 1.3 sens, felt pretty good for both awping and ak-ing
@@totocsgo lol mine is 4.07 xd
I play at edpi 2500 and even my mouse jitters a lot when i clear angles. Quite relatable!! Although I am just a DMG in MM but i will say that with practice high dpi almost becomes natural to play at.
dont change it
im like this guy
Ay u got sponsored by Raid
I played CSS for ~5k hrs with 3.2 @800dpi, my aim was absolutely nuts.
i'm proud of u :D
nuts in a good or bad way?
Woxic is the new edshot machine
One thing I think should be emphasised is just how precise he needs to be to play with this sensitivity. It's ~16cm for a 360, compare that to Niko's ~74cm/360. Woxic requires a drastically higher degree of real world precision to execute the same shots, a low sens gives Niko a relatively very large margin for error where his hand doesn't need to be anywhere near as accurate.
Woxic gains the benefits of high speed, covering large angles, and strong mobility (especially while scoped) at the trade-off of needing more precision (thus making shots harder), and more uniquely to his choice of technique doesn't have intuitive vertical cursor movement. Niko gains the benefit of large margin for error physically (boosting consistency), at the trade-off of slow turning and smaller angles possibly covered, requiring more arm speed to be competitive. He makes up for much of this through superlative game sense.
Two remarkable players mechanically for very different reasons, and absolute proof that sensitivity selection is about what's right for you based on your technique and your personal strengths and weaknesses. All things being equal however a high sens, if you can master it, has strengths. If you can physically bring the real world precision movement of the mouse necessary to achieve accuracy in game, you gain so many inherent advantages. Consider this, Niko has to move his mouse 4.6 times faster than Woxic to achieve the same in game crosshair movement speed. That's a big part of why Woxic's flicks can be so breathtakingly instant.
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*furiously taps right arrow*
Idk how his wrist still works from playing that much with such a high sens
So for a bit of background I'm a former amatuer Team Fortress 2 pro player (Flowerbud) and I used to use very very high sensitivity (around 1600 to 3200 dpi with 6 sensitivity), it's still pretty high even when I made the switch to CS GO (800 dpi with 3.09 sensitivity and 1 zoom sensitivity)
The reason high sensitivity players are used to it other than just using it alot is because we do alot of flicks, which makes our aim and camera movement look a lot more static and snappy instead of being smooth like low sensitivity players, we do this so we don't tire out for no reason, we also tend not to do alot of tracking movements which would wear us out alot since we dont use our arm very much
Also alot of just shaking around your hand after a session lol
@@KoryLunaa hahaha thanks for the comment! Good info :)
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Your welcome
Because carpal tunnel isn't really that common.
The whole wrist aim is harmful thing is a myth that comes from habits. Bad habits will lead to damage from any aim style. Wrist aimers must not over aim, they must keep their wrist within a health angle, and they absolutely should stretch and have good posture. Then they'll be fine.
Plenty of low sens players have equally gotten carpal tunnel from bad mouse grip, and getting tennis elbow or similar from arm aim is not that uncommon.
Gamers, stretch, take breaks, maintain good hydration, stop if any discomfort and change your technique or give yourself time to heal. If you ever get pain you've been bad and should have stopped, so now it's time to stop completely until the pain goes away.
Please do a similar video for ZywOO (low-medium sens)!
Do analysis on ScreaM like this
😂 Was a low sens player, then I changed to a high sens. Idk how to calculate my edpi but my dpi was 1250 and my in game sens was 2.5. Then now i play kind of a low sens again. 800 dpi and 1.85 in game.
800dpi 1.85 sens is a high sens tbh . 800dpi 0.7-1 are the low sens ..
@@ziqEh31 so I'm still in the high. Back then i my sens was really fkin high then 😂😂
@@ziqEh31 thanks for the info btw
hes using sensei ten. I recently bought it and it made my aim instantly better
no he uses DPI
1600 sens 1.5
or what would be the same, 400 dpi sens 6
or 800 dpi sens 3 e.t.c.
in no case is it sens 10
@@thebart779 he's talking about the sensei ten, a gaming mouse, with a popular shape loved by many, made by the gaming peripheral company Steelseries
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Keep it bro lol
hey can you say something about adrealine rush while intense situations? my hands start to shake and can't do nothing about it :(
when adrenaline rush kick in, your heart beat faster, hands start shaking, you feel nervous, but here i'm saying. you're in control. adrenaline rush is extra boost don't waste it. stay focus and use that power to hit some insane frag. you can do it. trust yourself
Practice composure. Centre yourself. Do breathing exercises between rounds. It's all about control and feeling in control. And not having a fear of failure. But it is physical too, so breathing helps overcome the psychological barrier.
I love how he shakes his mouse and stuff when he isn't in a fight, i'm playing at pretty high dpi (im not as good tho lmao) but i do kinda the same except when i notice i miss a lot and stuff i just fall back and flick my mouse so when i repeak my aim 'works' again
Is my sens too high? 1.5 sens, 800 dpi 5 windows sens no mouse smoothening? I think raw input is default in csgo i havent touched that i played on 1.83 but i changed to hybrid wrist arm aiming from pure wrist for better tracking and angle holding and smoother awping
Play with what you are comfortable with. Most pros play around 800edpi. Your edpi is at the higher end. Simple for example plays with 1200edpi
@@forsaken7161 it feels weird after changing but more accurate
It is so bad to feel that my edpi was 7,000 (3,500 dpi 2.0 in game sensitivity.) It is now 600 dpi 2.0 in game sensitivity.
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after he clearing180-degree angle, he shake his aim
maybe to reset his mouse and wrist position to center again
iam 2250, and thats what i do
I have 2.5 sens and 800 dpi and 1.01 zoom sens i play awp usually
I can’t be the only one who read the thumbnail as high wrist aiming and sensitivity flick mechanics
He's basically a 360 degree turret
That sensitivity is giving me anxiety
6:45 low sens players will never achieve anything close to this
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I am playing at 4500dpi the upward movement isn't a problem at that sens, but I am not only using that sens for cs I also use it for everthing else.
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Do you think the average sensitivity of the top 20 players has increased over the year, I'm sure guardian, Olaf, get right are all quite low but this new breed s1mple, woxic, zywoo are higher would be an interesting video to see the average sens of the past years top 20
ItsGentry I think zywoo is pretty average though like 800edpi
probably newer generation player has higher sens I guess
It's funny, because the older older generation of players during the quake era, everybody is going high and ones that go lower is uncommon. And then as the years go by, there's people like NiKo, Guardian, and most pros who go around 400 dpi 2-2.5 that made lower sens more common.
I use 560 eDpi. 2400 is crazy
I think u r crazy 560 eDpi WTF
@@mustafayildirim9858 NiKo from Faze uses that, it's perfect.
@@stefanSS1480 but its extremely low
@@mustafayildirim9858 No, I still can't perfectly pixel aim with it. Like moving just 1 pixel. Do 800 edpi if you can, it's just too fast for me.
i just realised i only have 80 edpi more than woxic. time to bump that shit up
I'm a high sens wrist player my sens is 4.35 in game lol
Is in game sense a consistent factor from game to game? If not than edpi wouldn’t be consistent from game to game
Hey an awper who plays wrist
I'm the same but I play wrist because my desk is small af
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mine is 2200 edpi... feels great when u do 180 flicks more often
@Rambo can you do a player aim mechanics analysis on Dev1ce?
I actually uses the same sensitivity as woxic, all of my friends gets nauseated whenever they watch my pov after they're dead due to fast movements.
I m good with 2200 edpi and i dont do 180s so much but able to clear angles properly
I have 3k hrs and was a wrist player but i developed carpal tunnel so i cannot play with my wrist anymore, i am trying to develope as an arm player or even a mix between both, i would like some advice on switching between the two
I used 1600dpi and 2 sense
My sens is 2.5 and 1600 DPi 😅
We need a Intro Music or something :D
I want low sensitivity video not high
I have the same hand posture and high dpi, but i'm just a regular player. I tried to change to forearm aiming and low dpi but was impossible for me
what's his cm/360?
How do you convert e-dpi or dpi to cm/360 anyway?
I play with 15 cm mouse space and high sensitivity and mybwrist pains a lot after some competitives
I was a 3200 dpi player and I was actually winning ranked games in r6 then my friend told me to change it to 400 dpi ( what do u think Ron should I change my sens or not?)
You should follow your heart. Sensitivity is preference and only you can know your feelings, nobody else. So go on your gaming chair and start playing with the highest sensitivity you find, then low it time in time searching for one that isn't too slow or too high, but MOST IMPORTANT one sensitivity that is COMFORTABLE and feels good for your hand.
OK thank u man BTW do u play r6s!
DPI doesn't really matter to be honest.
@@umbra7335 how is that??
@@hassanadel5659 DPI is just a multiplier for your sensitivity. For instance, an in-game sensitivity of 1 and a dpi of 800 is the same as an in-game sensitivity of 2 but a dpi of 400. While there are experiments people show of higher dpi being more pixel precise, it doesn't really change anything.
pls stewie2K next or kennyS
6:27 WTF?
Woxics in game sensitivity is slightly lower to how his his cursor moves. The 1:1 crosshair:windows cursor for csgo is something like 2.5 so hes almost training his aim just using his computer all the time
LOL my edpi is 3150 and i just cant play low sensi
But doesn't high sensitivity lack in precise headshot and vertical flick execution?
Plus you can't really pull below the point where the mouse touches the bottom of your palm because of the "wrist grip".
Most headshots in CS are mostly an extent of crosshair placement, what you trade off for in "flick accuracy" you get sevenfold in the other aspects of aiming.
No high sensitivity does not lack in "vertical flick execution" it is just like flicking side to side, and in fact can sometimes be more precise than low sens because you dont have to fuck around with your arm in an unnatural way to get it to push the mouse up.
@@treatz620 So, High sensitivity means much better aim and precision? But doesn't low sensitivity stand out for it's much better aim accuracy and precise shots? and in fact, it develops much better muscle memory.
Speaking of other games such as PUBG (for example) where sniping requires very minute and precise movement to get those distance headshots, is where low sensitivity plays a vital role.
True that Higher Sensitivity can be much easier for recoil control but when it comes to long-distance (micro-movement) shots, it's not that efficient comparatively.
Thanks for the reply! 😎👍
@@notmfi higher sens doesn't make recoil easier to control, easy recoil makes recoil easier to control.
"But doesn't low sensitivity stand out for it's much better aim accuracy" I literally said that in my original comment, low sensitivity is good for flicking and "minute details".
Low sensitivity doesn't "develop better muscle memory" idk where you got that idea or even why you'd think that, all muscle memory is the same, it's the way you practice that will hurt you or help you.
Compared to long distance shots where the pixel matters high sensitivity for the most part still holds up on it's own and will perform better under tracking based scenario's and is overall better for quick but small adjustments once you learn to control it.
When are you going to be getting distance headshots with either type of sensitivity? as I recall most headshots at range if your not pre-aimed for the head are 100% luck.
@@notmfi You should not compare CS to pubg. Pubg has a different aspect on aiming and high sens is very common on pubg unlike csgo lower sens is better because of the closed space
@@treatz620 Treatz Firstly, Higher sensitivity (higher DPI) will surely make Recoil Control much more easier. Think of this, if you have low DPI (say 400) so, you have to pull down your mouse longer whereas when you have DPI (like 1600) where the mouse pull is very much less comparitively.
Secondly, Yes! Low sensitivity will help in having much better muscle memory (it's not an idea but indeed a fact).
Muscle memory is obviously the same for either of the sensitivity but low sense will help develop it much more efficient.
Lastly, the distance headshot topic is of PUBG where sniping requires macro movements and adjustments.
Here if you have higher sensitivity you can't adjust for the headshot easily as even a small wrong mouse movement will make a huge difference.
BTW thanks for the replies! 😎👍
Mostly body shots. So he does not have the accuracy that arm players do. But its pretty good overall.
Don't need crazy accuracy as an awper. Kind of ironic but it's how the sniper in CS works.
People should check out the ex pro Overwatch player Pine. Trained himself to use 18cm/360 and was a pro sniper in a game where enemies are faster and less predictable and you have to hit headshots when sniping.