Sean from 034Motorsport had some great suggestions for this installation that he reckons might save 20+ minutes: - Unbolting the charge pipe from the intake manifold on bank 1. - Unbolting the charge pipe from the bank 2 head (under Throttle Body). - Remove the exhaust studs off the head. With the studs removed, you don't need to loosen the 4 nuts underneath you can just wiggle the turbo out. - If you clamp the connection on the firewall behind bank 2, no water is lost. Really appreciate the tips Sean!
I don’t see where the charge pipe is bolted to the intake manifold? I need to get more slack to get the charge pipe to align to the turbo bolt holes. Any pics or suggestions welcomed!
Thanks for the detailed DIY. Audi fan here. Also, you have to be the only youtuber that says the name of the company correctly: ZERO THREE FOUR! Not "Oh 3 4" 😁
Congrats on this. I was in a similar boat with my 2018 where I went stage 3 but was on the 710 instead of the 810 because 034 wasn't quite ready to release everything for the 810. I now have the full stage 3 / 810 setup on my 2021 B9.5 and while there is a noticeable difference, it's not like you're missing out on a ton of power with the 710. If you haven't yet definitely get some e85 in that thing and enjoy that, it's the way to go! Sweet ride and enjoy the car man!
Thank you! I'm definitely on E85 :), was thinking about testing out the race gas tune too since I have drums of 260 GT Plus. I think the 810 is probably the best option at the moment, but I'm not ready to ditch the 710 to chase a slight optimization. I think I'll wait for more full frame support at this point. Either way I'm daily driving a 10 second and sub 3s 0-60 car, not much to complain about =].
@@DmitrysGarage Definitely nothing to complain about and it's so much fun driving a car that surprises everyone. Any friends and family that have taken a ride in either of my stage 3 cars have all been blown away, they can't believe how effortlessly fast the car is, and that the motor and transmission are stock lol.
@@parisbrown4606 unfortunately not, haven’t been to the track with either car. I’m right at sea level so I’d expect a low 10 second pass with sticky tires 👌🏻
Crazy Mod. Yeah that install is gnarly, Dmitry. But well worth it by the commentary during the pulls lol. Definitely looking forward to the, "From start, to now" type of video, in terms of mods.
Honestly it's not a bad one to do, there are a lot of little bits and some annoyances, but as far as turbo "kits" (this is really not even a kit) go you can't do much easier on a modern vehicle. The actual turbo install is a job someone experienced can do in a few hours and a first time installer can handle in a weekend being patient and careful. I'm very impressed by what this platform can offer given a fairly modest time investment in building, cost is another issue of course haha.
Aww man that sucks :). Hopefully it’ll be easier to swap with the video. Check out the suggestions from Sean @ 034 that I pinned. They should save even more time.
Great video! It's a nice addition to the other b9 hybrid turbo install videos out there as a reference when I install my 810. Did the turbo come with the lower pcv line that u replaced or is that an extra purchase?
Thanks for the kind words. The turbo does not come with the lower PCV line, but I highly recommend snagging one. There is a link in the description. It's worth replacing it while the turbo is out because the upgraded model has a little bit of heat shielding and more can be added. That the turbo gets immensely hot.
Hi nice video. Just installed a pure750 using this video as i guide. What oil do you use. I hear its recommended to run 5w30. I believe the rs5 also runs on 5w30 or 5w40
Excellent video. Installing the TTE710 soon and am curious why you recommend more replacement parts than 034? I ordered their Turbo Installation Hardware Kit and it says in their description it’s all you need. Could you elaborate on that?
Thanks for watching! When I filmed this video that kit was not out yet. If their kit includes everything I listed (might have more!) then you’re good to go. I haven’t researched their kit in depth. 034 makes a good product so im sure their kit is killer. I just had to put together my own haha.
@@MrModz1999 i suspect they’re targeting a set price point. Its not uncommon to assume users may re-use parts that still look good. For instance my o-rings probably would have held up if lubed and re-inserted, but while ur in there why not swap them? Same with the clamp and fasteners. People often value total cost over potentially having to re-do work later. I remember when I didnt have my own shop like this, I used to always remind my mechanic to swap all those extras. Like hey we already have the heads off. Lets replace all the valve seals and springs… i don’t want to do that later again…
For just swapping the turbo i spent a couple of hours with filming time. Some experienced techs say they can do it under 1 hour. If you’re considering it, check out the pinned comment. Sean from 034 gave some killer time saving tips which I posted.
There is really very little change in lag with the 710. I believe the 810 does bump the lag a little more, but its still surprisingly low rpm. These are twin scroll setups and the turbos are pretty efficiently sized for the performance targets. Its really not at all like throwing a big turbo kit on a 4-banger or a massively huge single turbo on an inline 6 or days past. I just spent an entire week driving downtown for an event i was attending and the car hustled through heavy traffic no problem.
If you have the choice definitely go with the 810, I've had both and there's really no downside to going with the 810. It could be because my 2021 is newer and has less miles than my 2018 had but i actually get better fuel economy with the 810 vs what I did with the 710 on my 2018 lol. I also feel like there's more turbo noises and overall the 810 and all the supporting mods just feels like a better package. Good luck!
You know instead of using a larger intercooler for cooling the air, why not make or develop an air-conditioner" assisted intercooler or "mini refrigerator" for cooling of the air for the turbocharger?? Saves on space and probably more efficient overall??
Thats been done in the past. The Dodge Demon actually does this. It used to be kind of a pipe dream like electric superchargers and never worked well, but both are becoming a thing. One challenge is having to run the AC system of course to make the cooling and complexity vs a simple air to air intercooler. It makes more sense on something like the demon that has a top mount supercharger and no factory front mount cooler, instead it has a water to air one right on top of the engine. The AC there really helps by chilling the water itself.
Hey Dmitry. Did the new gaskets come with the new turbo? Or you needed to buy them all separate. I bought the 810 and it’s on route. So I want to make sure I have everything ready when it gets here. Thanks.
Some have reported issues on forums, but i have not experienced them. I suggest hand forming the blanket around the waste gate rod the first time it heats up, the material is moldable and will hold the shape after it cools
Hey Dmitry, thanks so much for the video! I’m doing this install today but can’t seem to the waste gate arm to engage correctly on the new turbo. Is there some trick with that clip?
@@measureman1 Interesting, I wonder if it got mangled a bit when removing. Mine definitely doesn't pop off very easily. I can't quite recall what it looks like inside, but is there maybe some clip material that expanded and could be closed back up with some needle nose pliers?
Preventative. It has melted for people with aftermarket turbos before. The latest revision from Audi has heat shielding that my original did not have. I added more heat shielding as well.
I squirted in the bottle of the liqui moly pro-line additive, it’s specifically made for priming new turbos for a first start. There is not much oil capacity in there and it came with assembly oil in it, which actually made it kinda hard to squeeze the whole bottle in. Its a quick cut in the video but it took me like 10 minuted to slowly feed it in without overflowing. You can also inject some fresh oil with a syringe (without the needle) or turn the engine over with the fuel relays/fuses pulled if you’re extra paranoid, but as long as its not started dry it will be fine. The reality is oil pressure builds throughout the entire system almost instantly. So short of having bone dry bearings it will be fine.
Soon! Without filming this job could be done within 2 hours given prior experience and the right tools. Give yourself at lest a day or a weekend if it is your first time or if you don’t have a fully stocked shop. Time for tool runs, research, etc..
Hahaha :) sadly im not insured for that. Sometimes i do work on friends card (with them) but Its a very clear policy that if you die because the car falls on you no suing is allowed haha. I should really draft a consent form.
@@DmitrysGarage I’d sign it if I was close to you. I have 54k miles, so not sure if I’d want to add the turbo with that many miles. I love the car and could see having it a while or getting the B9.5 down the road. Only other things I’d consider would be SQ7, X5 M50i or Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (way over priced though). I’ve loved all of our Audis though.
So far so good. Have not heard of many failures. Have heard of a couple of 810 failures recently though, like 3 in one week. Though nothing else major since then. As far as I know warranty from TTE covered the ones im aware or.
I think it's a nice to have but not required, also you really wanna make sure you form it well with your hands (wear gloves!) once you heat it up, so it doesn't tangle up with the waste gate actuator. I just pushed mine down hard around the path of the rod and the blanket stuck that way once it cooled.
The new PCV has a small amount of heat shielding vs the original my car came with. I added more heat shielding myself since I have the hybrid turbo in there.
Honestly this is a pretty damn easy turbo swap. I know it seems like a lot, but compared to installing a normal turbo kit on most modern cars this is very easy.
You've never had your hands inside the bay of a Mercedes S600 😂. V12 Biturbo with just enough space to drop a socket.😂 The B5 S4 required removal of the engine to service the turbos.
Sean from 034Motorsport had some great suggestions for this installation that he reckons might save 20+ minutes:
- Unbolting the charge pipe from the intake manifold on bank 1.
- Unbolting the charge pipe from the bank 2 head (under Throttle Body).
- Remove the exhaust studs off the head. With the studs removed, you don't need to loosen the 4 nuts underneath you can just wiggle the turbo out.
- If you clamp the connection on the firewall behind bank 2, no water is lost.
Really appreciate the tips Sean!
I don’t see where the charge pipe is bolted to the intake manifold? I need to get more slack to get the charge pipe to align to the turbo bolt holes. Any pics or suggestions welcomed!
Thanks for the detailed DIY. Audi fan here. Also, you have to be the only youtuber that says the name of the company correctly: ZERO THREE FOUR! Not "Oh 3 4" 😁
Thanks! I did use to say oh-3-4 haha, but I was informed that was incorrect 🙂!
Congrats on this. I was in a similar boat with my 2018 where I went stage 3 but was on the 710 instead of the 810 because 034 wasn't quite ready to release everything for the 810. I now have the full stage 3 / 810 setup on my 2021 B9.5 and while there is a noticeable difference, it's not like you're missing out on a ton of power with the 710. If you haven't yet definitely get some e85 in that thing and enjoy that, it's the way to go! Sweet ride and enjoy the car man!
Thank you! I'm definitely on E85 :), was thinking about testing out the race gas tune too since I have drums of 260 GT Plus. I think the 810 is probably the best option at the moment, but I'm not ready to ditch the 710 to chase a slight optimization. I think I'll wait for more full frame support at this point. Either way I'm daily driving a 10 second and sub 3s 0-60 car, not much to complain about =].
@@DmitrysGarage Definitely nothing to complain about and it's so much fun driving a car that surprises everyone. Any friends and family that have taken a ride in either of my stage 3 cars have all been blown away, they can't believe how effortlessly fast the car is, and that the motor and transmission are stock lol.
@@DigitalCowboy87 Yep, I've let a few people experience a hard launch and its always a good time =)
@@DigitalCowboy87 Have you gotten any 1/4 times on your 810 vs 710?
@@parisbrown4606 unfortunately not, haven’t been to the track with either car. I’m right at sea level so I’d expect a low 10 second pass with sticky tires 👌🏻
Crazy Mod. Yeah that install is gnarly, Dmitry. But well worth it by the commentary during the pulls lol. Definitely looking forward to the, "From start, to now" type of video, in terms of mods.
Honestly it's not a bad one to do, there are a lot of little bits and some annoyances, but as far as turbo "kits" (this is really not even a kit) go you can't do much easier on a modern vehicle. The actual turbo install is a job someone experienced can do in a few hours and a first time installer can handle in a weekend being patient and careful. I'm very impressed by what this platform can offer given a fairly modest time investment in building, cost is another issue of course haha.
I also have a tango red b9 s4! No 710 yet, still enjoying 034 stage 2 on 93 :) Love the build.
Thanks! Stage 2 034 is quite a bit of fun too :-). Tango red is probably one of the best colors on these IMO.
Great video - I have to do this in my Porsche Macan which has the same engine 🥸 Thank you for sharing 🤝🏻
Great video! Let me borrow that old stock turbo 😂 I think my turbo just failed
Aww man that sucks :). Hopefully it’ll be easier to swap with the video. Check out the suggestions from Sean @ 034 that I pinned. They should save even more time.
Excellent content, as always. What would be the approximate book-hours if a shop was doing this?
Great video! It's a nice addition to the other b9 hybrid turbo install videos out there as a reference when I install my 810. Did the turbo come with the lower pcv line that u replaced or is that an extra purchase?
Thanks for the kind words. The turbo does not come with the lower PCV line, but I highly recommend snagging one. There is a link in the description. It's worth replacing it while the turbo is out because the upgraded model has a little bit of heat shielding and more can be added. That the turbo gets immensely hot.
Hi nice video. Just installed a pure750 using this video as i guide. What oil do you use. I hear its recommended to run 5w30. I believe the rs5 also runs on 5w30 or 5w40
Thanks! Im running motul 8100 power 5w40 since going stage 3.
Excellent video. Installing the TTE710 soon and am curious why you recommend more replacement parts than 034? I ordered their Turbo Installation Hardware Kit and it says in their description it’s all you need. Could you elaborate on that?
Thanks for watching! When I filmed this video that kit was not out yet. If their kit includes everything I listed (might have more!) then you’re good to go. I haven’t researched their kit in depth. 034 makes a good product so im sure their kit is killer. I just had to put together my own haha.
@@DmitrysGarage totally agree! Was just curious as to why you recommend to replace more parts than they do. Just good practice?
@@MrModz1999 i suspect they’re targeting a set price point. Its not uncommon to assume users may re-use parts that still look good. For instance my o-rings probably would have held up if lubed and re-inserted, but while ur in there why not swap them? Same with the clamp and fasteners. People often value total cost over potentially having to re-do work later. I remember when I didnt have my own shop like this, I used to always remind my mechanic to swap all those extras. Like hey we already have the heads off. Lets replace all the valve seals and springs… i don’t want to do that later again…
Thanks for the video ! Very helpful.
How long did it take to do the whole swap ?
For just swapping the turbo i spent a couple of hours with filming time. Some experienced techs say they can do it under 1 hour. If you’re considering it, check out the pinned comment. Sean from 034 gave some killer time saving tips which I posted.
deciding between 710/810. how's city driving with the 710?? still enjoyable with sprited driving, or too much lag for around town?
There is really very little change in lag with the 710. I believe the 810 does bump the lag a little more, but its still surprisingly low rpm. These are twin scroll setups and the turbos are pretty efficiently sized for the performance targets. Its really not at all like throwing a big turbo kit on a 4-banger or a massively huge single turbo on an inline 6 or days past. I just spent an entire week driving downtown for an event i was attending and the car hustled through heavy traffic no problem.
If you have the choice definitely go with the 810, I've had both and there's really no downside to going with the 810. It could be because my 2021 is newer and has less miles than my 2018 had but i actually get better fuel economy with the 810 vs what I did with the 710 on my 2018 lol. I also feel like there's more turbo noises and overall the 810 and all the supporting mods just feels like a better package. Good luck!
@@DigitalCowboy87 Yea, i dont feel like messing with new injectors. 710 likely more than enough power for daily driving
@@packat78 that’s fair! E85 and a 710 will put all sorts of smiles on your face haha :)
what exhaust do you have & how did you get it to crack and pop?
Thanks for sharing the installation! What is the wheel horsepower output of this on 93 octane?
Im not sure on 93, haven’t tried, been on e85 only.
How much did that all costs ?? You bro
Retail cost im sure im over $20k in mods. Granted i do get some cost reductions with our sponsors.
You know instead of using a larger intercooler for cooling the air, why not make or develop an air-conditioner" assisted intercooler or "mini refrigerator" for cooling of the air for the turbocharger??
Saves on space and probably more efficient overall??
Thats been done in the past. The Dodge Demon actually does this. It used to be kind of a pipe dream like electric superchargers and never worked well, but both are becoming a thing. One challenge is having to run the AC system of course to make the cooling and complexity vs a simple air to air intercooler. It makes more sense on something like the demon that has a top mount supercharger and no factory front mount cooler, instead it has a water to air one right on top of the engine. The AC there really helps by chilling the water itself.
Hey Dmitry.
Did the new gaskets come with the new turbo? Or you needed to buy them all separate.
I bought the 810 and it’s on route. So I want to make sure I have everything ready when it gets here.
Thanks.
Hey Greg, unless you bought a kit, you’re going to need those extras. Otherwise the turbo is just the turbo.
what is the part number for plactic screw holding oil drain?
Ever find this part number?
so how much HP this has now?
Have you found or heard of any issues with how tight the wastegate rod is to the turbo blanket?
Some have reported issues on forums, but i have not experienced them. I suggest hand forming the blanket around the waste gate rod the first time it heats up, the material is moldable and will hold the shape after it cools
Hey Dmitry, thanks so much for the video! I’m doing this install today but can’t seem to the waste gate arm to engage correctly on the new turbo. Is there some trick with that clip?
Theres really no trick, when you say it wont engage, it wont connect back? Sure nothing is bent?
@@DmitrysGarage I can get it to pop onto the ball socket. But it’s very easy to pull it back off. Doesn’t seem like the locking clip is engaging.
@@measureman1 Interesting, I wonder if it got mangled a bit when removing. Mine definitely doesn't pop off very easily. I can't quite recall what it looks like inside, but is there maybe some clip material that expanded and could be closed back up with some needle nose pliers?
I was wonder why you don't wrap cat ?
Wrap you install will it cause turbo to crack?
The stock cat and the aftermarket cat are already covered in heat shielding. Didn't appear necessary given that wrapping has some risks.
Out of curiosity what fuel were you running?
I'm running E85.
So the lower PCV replacement was preventative? Is it known to fail? It's not something I've seen from my research so just curious.
Preventative. It has melted for people with aftermarket turbos before. The latest revision from Audi has heat shielding that my original did not have. I added more heat shielding as well.
@@DmitrysGarageappreciate the replies. Love your channel.
Would you recommend a pcv delete?
Can I bring my S5 to your shop for basic upgrades? I’m located in New Braunfels Texas
Sorry, I don’t offer any automotive services here.
Dont you need to prime the turbo since its new ?
I squirted in the bottle of the liqui moly pro-line additive, it’s specifically made for priming new turbos for a first start. There is not much oil capacity in there and it came with assembly oil in it, which actually made it kinda hard to squeeze the whole bottle in. Its a quick cut in the video but it took me like 10 minuted to slowly feed it in without overflowing. You can also inject some fresh oil with a syringe (without the needle) or turn the engine over with the fuel relays/fuses pulled if you’re extra paranoid, but as long as its not started dry it will be fine. The reality is oil pressure builds throughout the entire system almost instantly. So short of having bone dry bearings it will be fine.
Let’s see those 1/4 mile times!
How long would it have taken for install if you weren’t filming? Thanks
Soon! Without filming this job could be done within 2 hours given prior experience and the right tools. Give yourself at lest a day or a weekend if it is your first time or if you don’t have a fully stocked shop. Time for tool runs, research, etc..
@@DmitrysGarage I’ll just drop it off at your shop 😂
Hahaha :) sadly im not insured for that. Sometimes i do work on friends card (with them) but Its a very clear policy that if you die because the car falls on you no suing is allowed haha. I should really draft a consent form.
@@DmitrysGarage I’d sign it if I was close to you. I have 54k miles, so not sure if I’d want to add the turbo with that many miles. I love the car and could see having it a while or getting the B9.5 down the road. Only other things I’d consider would be SQ7, X5 M50i or Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (way over priced though). I’ve loved all of our Audis though.
@@corycooper4955 id prolly pass on the 9.5. It’s basically the same car. The new one coming might be interesting though.
Hey,
what’s your opinion about the rocker arm failure? Any problems ?
Seems pretty isolated, so I'm not worried about mine yet.
What file were you running in these clips?
This was the E85 file.
Any idea of the reliability with the 710?
So far so good. Have not heard of many failures. Have heard of a couple of 810 failures recently though, like 3 in one week. Though nothing else major since then. As far as I know warranty from TTE covered the ones im aware or.
Where did you order your front r s grille from and rear spoiler ??
You can find the grille on ebay/ali. The spoiler is had painted, its stock
Its the turbo blanket necessary in your opinion?
I think it's a nice to have but not required, also you really wanna make sure you form it well with your hands (wear gloves!) once you heat it up, so it doesn't tangle up with the waste gate actuator. I just pushed mine down hard around the path of the rod and the blanket stuck that way once it cooled.
@@DmitrysGarage thanks. Just got a great deal on a slightly used 710. plan on installing this soon so just trying to put everything together.
did the pcv from the link in the description come with the heat shielding? i did not see it in the picture
The new PCV has a small amount of heat shielding vs the original my car came with. I added more heat shielding myself since I have the hybrid turbo in there.
@@DmitrysGarage is the pcv linked in the description up to date?
Yea it was the latest when I did it.
Why does Audi make everything so difficult
Honestly this is a pretty damn easy turbo swap. I know it seems like a lot, but compared to installing a normal turbo kit on most modern cars this is very easy.
You've never had your hands inside the bay of a Mercedes S600 😂. V12 Biturbo with just enough space to drop a socket.😂 The B5 S4 required removal of the engine to service the turbos.
@@DmitrysGarage I come from push rod LS engines so..
wut this is a ton easier than the 2.7t get outta here lol
The cuts are super fast and is making me nauseous
Sorry to hear that, the jump cuts are bit of a balancing act when trying to squeeze every step of a turbo swap into a reasonable length video.