RS4? 500+ HP Audi S4 B9 // Nürburgring

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
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    00:00 Intro/Specs
    01:34 Lap
    10:49 Lap
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Комментарии • 246

  • @Jamie.c18
    @Jamie.c18 6 месяцев назад +169

    Thank you again for an amazing lap! If you think you know what your car is capable of then give it to Misha for 10 minutes and he’ll show you a whole other side 😂👏🏼
    Redline moves to accommodate for the raised transmission temps, it was a hot summer day! Trans cooling is definitely going to be upgraded for this year.

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  6 месяцев назад +30

      So we go again😍

    • @kei1880
      @kei1880 6 месяцев назад +3

      Hei Jamie, I know the s4 b9 has a turbo but why does it sound like a supercharger?

    • @Itadapizza
      @Itadapizza 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@kei1880transmission whine, it’s completely normal

    • @Misterpapito237
      @Misterpapito237 6 месяцев назад +3

      It’s not because of the transmission temps , it because the ‘ high ‘ oil temperatures.
      Engine limits revs power to protect the engine you need an oil cooler.

    • @Jamie.c18
      @Jamie.c18 6 месяцев назад +22

      @@Misterpapito237 Oil temp is fine for these, of course lower the better however the oil cooler on the S4 B9’s don’t fully open until around 127 degrees.
      They’re designed to run hot, the car is also using upgraded motorsport oil and always changed after going to the track.
      The revs are limiting due to the transmission temps creeping up that’s all, it’s a safety feature.

  • @AI-Records24
    @AI-Records24 6 месяцев назад +188

    Car lowered its redline toward the end there to protect itself, I like that. Sounds awesome and drove nicely, nice job!

    • @fgdgrddsew2
      @fgdgrddsew2 6 месяцев назад +1

      good spot

    • @Tonyx.yt.
      @Tonyx.yt. 6 месяцев назад +3

      134 oil temp it's no joke

    • @module79l28
      @module79l28 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@Tonyx.yt. - It's not because of that, read the owner's replies on the pinned comment.

    • @ZanicL3
      @ZanicL3 5 месяцев назад

      @@Tonyx.yt. damn that's actually quite hot lol

  • @ojmck22
    @ojmck22 6 месяцев назад +239

    I simply cannot go a day without watching one of your videos Misha

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  6 месяцев назад +29

      THANK YOU!

    • @haythemn1
      @haythemn1 6 месяцев назад +10

      Just like you, I don't sleep until I watch a video ❤

    • @GapeGang
      @GapeGang 6 месяцев назад +4

      Same here

    • @Itscastlebravo
      @Itscastlebravo 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@haythemn1same

    • @Dym3k_93
      @Dym3k_93 6 месяцев назад +3

      The Same ! 🎉❤

  • @darcyphillips70
    @darcyphillips70 6 месяцев назад +44

    Nice to see a sorted Audi being driven hard & delivering… impressive, especially with the additional luggage in the back 🫶👊💥

  • @MK-mq6vy
    @MK-mq6vy 6 месяцев назад +48

    watching the guys get thrown around in the back seat is hilarious
    Love the content Misha

  • @derickturner2655
    @derickturner2655 6 месяцев назад +90

    It's very interesting how to redline moves around as the heat climbs and drops! Awesome car!

    • @alexhentschel1080
      @alexhentschel1080 6 месяцев назад

      i saw that too, but i noticed the temp climbed above 130 to 132 and the redline went higher. very interesting

    • @micheledelmoro5898
      @micheledelmoro5898 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@alexhentschel1080probably coolant was overheating

    • @tiboleurentop3615
      @tiboleurentop3615 6 месяцев назад +10

      Might be based on gearbox temp.

    • @Jamie.c18
      @Jamie.c18 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@tiboleurentop3615 Spot on 👍🏼

    • @darrenquarterman2611
      @darrenquarterman2611 6 месяцев назад

      You like to think the rs4 could do a lap before overheating but I suppose only a professional driver can push it this far the was 2 yellow flags witch helped it cool down

  • @stevenh766
    @stevenh766 6 месяцев назад +41

    Assumed it was going to overheat at some point, but very impressive and composed considering it was +600lbs how it would run a typical track event.

    • @rorynesta7766
      @rorynesta7766 6 месяцев назад +1

      yeah the way the temp was rising was a worry.

  • @chadspradling7627
    @chadspradling7627 6 месяцев назад +7

    I find it fascinating how you can get in so many different cars and push them to the limit. And knowing when the brakes are going or shot, when the tires are done, and so on. Thank you for making these videos I really enjoy watching them.

  • @deep4730
    @deep4730 6 месяцев назад +14

    150mph 4 man up love that

  • @seastonnn1165
    @seastonnn1165 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love the rear passenger cam. Lovely stuff misha.
    Happy new year brother, many fast and safe laps ahead for you bro🎉

  • @JJsAutomotive
    @JJsAutomotive 6 месяцев назад +14

    The guy with the glasses is a true special operator. 😀

  • @Drew_Koch
    @Drew_Koch 6 месяцев назад +9

    Car was definitely getting hot and those several yellows helped. Nice to see how it helps to protect itself by adjusting redline. Great driving as always!

  • @mitjagracnar1502
    @mitjagracnar1502 6 месяцев назад +1

    Have been waiting for this video for soo long as I'm tracking this exact S4 car for a while now.. And you just confirmed my thoughts about it - so definitely I'm going to buy it! 💯

  • @jamesbennett2019
    @jamesbennett2019 6 месяцев назад

    love the vid man, always great to sit down after work and watch your vids 😊❤️💯

  • @Itadapizza
    @Itadapizza 6 месяцев назад +14

    Love to see it! That was transmission whine not the turbo btw. I’ve had had 2 B9s. Doubtful about the 500+ without hybrid turbo or fueling upgrade. These things have great torque though.

    • @mizaqenyad4269
      @mizaqenyad4269 6 месяцев назад +3

      he was probably rounding up, probably closer to 475-480. maybe a tad higher

    • @Tunerfreak99
      @Tunerfreak99 6 месяцев назад +2

      Agree, my B9.5 S5 makes 500+ only on e85, on 98(RON) it’s about 460

  • @guzca05
    @guzca05 6 месяцев назад

    Otro gran video Misha!! Qué sonido ese Audi. Saludos desde España!!

  • @xthe31er80
    @xthe31er80 6 месяцев назад +20

    im a simple man, i see a misha video and like it 🤠

  • @parrishwl
    @parrishwl 6 месяцев назад

    Thats a nice Audi !!! Great Build 👍

  • @GregHotchkiss
    @GregHotchkiss 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video again @Misha

  • @carzbydano
    @carzbydano 6 месяцев назад +4

    Beautiful sound

  • @ELXABER
    @ELXABER 6 месяцев назад

    I have a B7 S4 Cabriolet, love the thing. Would like to do a coilover instead of the adaptive magnetic and maybe pull another 100hp, so it's close to 450. That one sounded pretty good for a 6 with a turbo.

  • @MiniatureMarvels.foryou
    @MiniatureMarvels.foryou 6 месяцев назад

    im so glad i found your page! I want to fix up my 2024 autobahn GLI Manual Transmission and bring it out there for you to drive! see you in 3-5 years!

  • @ThomasAnselmi1337
    @ThomasAnselmi1337 3 месяца назад

    Tuned B9 S4 owner and live seeing it on the channel!

  • @Mo55y90
    @Mo55y90 6 месяцев назад +2

    I'm coming over with a stock B9 saloon in march 😅

  • @Intergalacticheroe
    @Intergalacticheroe Месяц назад

    i just got S4 B9.5 that car is so freaking good i love it

  • @bootie
    @bootie 6 месяцев назад +5

    seemed like such a chill lap 😅

  • @medved6093
    @medved6093 6 месяцев назад +2

    Очень достойно ехала. Хорошая машинка! Жаль, были ограничения на скорость, интересно, был бы перегрев?

  • @truckingaround736
    @truckingaround736 6 месяцев назад

    Misha's videos is part of my life. Keep doing what you are doing sir. You are doing an incredible job 🎉. I would just like to see the Nissan Sentra 200STI on the channel once. So if someone has one. Please contact Misha😅

  • @crunch3rYouTube
    @crunch3rYouTube Месяц назад +1

    Wow that Avant was ripping it with 4 adults in the car wow! S4 #1

  • @roywhiteo5
    @roywhiteo5 6 месяцев назад +7

    I'd love to see a video of a b8.5 S5 with the sports diff drive around the ring. That diff makes all the difference in the world

    • @tubejorrit
      @tubejorrit 6 месяцев назад +2

      The S4 could also be optioned with the sport diff

    • @BarbecuedPossum
      @BarbecuedPossum 6 месяцев назад +1

      The sport diffs are very weak though. I have a b8 s4 avant and done a few trackdays in them have had 2 sport diffs fail. 1 cracked internally and leaked the hydraulic oil into the gear oil which then ruined it, and the other after a few was whining and showing a malfunction when it got hot so just ditched it. Now has a standard diff in it waiting for the funds to do the jxb lsd retrofit (which can only be done into the standard diff housing). For having a bit of extra rotation on the road, fine. But (and I may have been unlucky..) in my experience they can't cope with track work

    • @roywhiteo5
      @roywhiteo5 5 месяцев назад

      @@BarbecuedPossum what tires were you using on track? My S5 is more fun in cooler temperatures when the tires have less grip

    • @BarbecuedPossum
      @BarbecuedPossum 5 месяцев назад

      Was on PS4s, normally i use ar1's for trackdays on my other car but couldnt be bothered switching as the s4 is my daily. Winter trackdays would be way more fun in these as can actually play with them on the limit, in they dry hot it's hard to do anything but understeer@@roywhiteo5

    • @thinkcarbon794
      @thinkcarbon794 7 дней назад +2

      @@BarbecuedPossum Huh. I don't hear about them failing too much, but it happened to my friends B8.5 a few years ago while it was still under the extended warranty. By B8 did not have it, but my B9.5 dose, and it's been solid for me. A couple of track days, two trips to the drag strip, and lots of backroad blasting.

  • @Goncalosxx
    @Goncalosxx 6 месяцев назад

    love your content bro

  • @aldoalberto1609
    @aldoalberto1609 6 месяцев назад

    Hello from Mexico Misha!! Nice videos 👌 may be you could show the engine of the cars. Some people enjoy it

  • @jpjones20
    @jpjones20 6 месяцев назад +5

    It was nice to see MPH, coming from a USA viewer. Love the content and driving. 👍👍

  • @thescavwithnothingtolose1224
    @thescavwithnothingtolose1224 6 месяцев назад

    I'm excited for the S5 avant coming across the pond to the US market. 🙏

    • @duduoson1306
      @duduoson1306 6 месяцев назад

      Is that happening or you just playin?

  • @Undee-or7sb
    @Undee-or7sb 6 месяцев назад +2

    The yellows saved the car from dying 😅

  • @marisristamecs3169
    @marisristamecs3169 6 месяцев назад

    Its probably handles becouse of extra weight on rear seets. Once i got owersteer in the same corner with passengers where usualy i get understeer

  • @superbrit3845
    @superbrit3845 6 месяцев назад +10

    At last a car that claims 500bhp and performs like a 500bhp car should even with 4 people on board, no BS figures here.

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  6 месяцев назад +4

    • @jimmymcgoo8641
      @jimmymcgoo8641 6 месяцев назад +1

      The 500 HP figure is pure and utter BS on 99 Ron fuel it will be MAX 470-480 HP at the engine.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 21 день назад

      @@jimmymcgoo8641 Wow 20 HP over what is claimed? That's such crazy BS. 🙄

    • @jimmymcgoo8641
      @jimmymcgoo8641 21 день назад

      @@mediocreman2 your name says it all.

  • @tamtdc
    @tamtdc 6 месяцев назад +5

    Cooling is what you need to do first, see how the red line kept moving down to 5.5k revs to allow it some time to try and cool down...

    • @mizaqenyad4269
      @mizaqenyad4269 6 месяцев назад +1

      thats trans temps doing that not engine temps. needs a trans cooler.

    • @tamtdc
      @tamtdc 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@mizaqenyad4269 so needs better cooling then? Isn't that what I said?

    • @mizaqenyad4269
      @mizaqenyad4269 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@tamtdc & i was agreeing by being specific... people are so sensitive jeeze

  • @_IMNNO
    @_IMNNO 6 месяцев назад

    I’m surprised the Bluestuff and Yellowstuff pads held up. EBC gets some hate from the community. I have them installed on my R60 Mini, but it only weighs 1360kg/3000lbs.

  • @12345678939218
    @12345678939218 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is a surprise, it would never occur to me to see a family Audi Saloon take corners so easily and quickly, especially with 4 people in it. A big surprise, Cool 👍

    • @edombre4637
      @edombre4637 6 месяцев назад

      its a S4 - thats the sports, more powerful version of the regular audi - a regular audi would wallow on this circuit.

    • @thinkcarbon794
      @thinkcarbon794 7 дней назад

      If you notice the red brake calipers, it has the optional torque vectoring sport differential. It's a magical option that should probably just come standard that transforms the cars handling. A S4/S5 with the sport differential will do doughnuts in the rain like its a RWD car with the traction control turned off.

  • @titin200
    @titin200 6 месяцев назад +5

    Hey Misha, do you ever turn the heather on full blast when the cars start to get hot? I find it does helps quite alot and can bring the temps down quickly

    • @rorynesta7766
      @rorynesta7766 6 месяцев назад +1

      was thinking that too,i usually do that on my turbo cars when im on a big drive.

  • @KingModestCars
    @KingModestCars Месяц назад

    For a track usage ESP should be in sport, it will prevent from understeering feel of a car

  • @dgukov
    @dgukov 6 месяцев назад +1

    @mgcharoudin Did it have sports diff? Suspension adaptive or passive (this feels a bit like cheating physics in a good way)?

  • @MrPimpmygun
    @MrPimpmygun 6 месяцев назад

    dude in the backseat was trying his hardest to stay composed

  • @christopherpeters2992
    @christopherpeters2992 6 месяцев назад

    Nice drive . ❤

  • @2wheels1guy25
    @2wheels1guy25 6 месяцев назад

    Very cool vid. What's with te moving redline thouhg? 10:24

  • @Msieur_Moon
    @Msieur_Moon 6 месяцев назад

    500hp and 4 beast inside 😂 love that ❤❤

  • @WillemVerb
    @WillemVerb 6 месяцев назад +1

    love that there are two random guys that just popped into the back when the lap started haha

    • @benlecluyse
      @benlecluyse 6 месяцев назад +1

      #Facts

    • @lennardm4752
      @lennardm4752 6 месяцев назад

      Would have expected your Volvo loving twin @wheelemverb to be here but not you 😂

  • @R19Robbin
    @R19Robbin 6 месяцев назад

    Proper wagon 👌

  • @THEDOPEYDAISY
    @THEDOPEYDAISY 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love this generation of S4, with the modifications he said it’s pretty hard to get 503bhp with a stick turbocharger. It’s probably more like 450bhp.

    • @fff-fv6xh
      @fff-fv6xh 6 месяцев назад

      It's not really. Just with a ecu tune you are at like 440hp. With intake, de-cat downpipe, intercooler you are easily at 520-530. And he has all those mods

  • @locoporgolf
    @locoporgolf 6 месяцев назад +2

    on time

  • @RyanHinchcliff-gd8fe
    @RyanHinchcliff-gd8fe Месяц назад

    Awesomeness

  • @Jchow08
    @Jchow08 6 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome S4 considering 4 people in the car! I daily an A4 B9 what a great car!

    • @jimmymcgoo8641
      @jimmymcgoo8641 6 месяцев назад

      Not really the same thing though is it , a A4 😂

    • @Jchow08
      @Jchow08 6 месяцев назад +1

      Not an S4 and definitely not for the track 😂 but got it tuned with stage 1 and 430NM, more than enough for a daily around town

  • @TheGhiaDriver
    @TheGhiaDriver 6 месяцев назад

    Impressive driving as always! Wouldn't a decat make it not legal to use though?

  • @lifeofchadhugo8282
    @lifeofchadhugo8282 2 месяца назад

    English Jesse Pinkman and Heisenberg in the back seat?! 😂😂😂 That’s all I kept thinking!😂😂
    Great video!

  • @chadspradling7627
    @chadspradling7627 6 месяцев назад

    And it was funny watching the two in the back the way they were getting thrown around, left then quick right back quick left lol, then brake hard lean forward touch your toes lol

  • @vinylcritter6382
    @vinylcritter6382 6 месяцев назад

    Misha and the Lads Good time had by all

  • @monkyk1ng
    @monkyk1ng 6 месяцев назад

    whoaa misha driving a RAS4!!! (really a s four)

  • @JessHull
    @JessHull 6 месяцев назад +1

    interesting that it lowered its own redline as it heated up.

  • @GeNiTaliA90
    @GeNiTaliA90 6 месяцев назад

    Nice sound! Yea i did a decat on the intake! What? 🤔

  • @TommiTM
    @TommiTM 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is crown gear quattro, 60% goes rear. Usually when people whine Audi understeer, they dont even know you have to accelerate in the corner.

  • @connorleyland8695
    @connorleyland8695 6 месяцев назад

    +600 lbs too! On stock springs

  • @J3n555
    @J3n555 6 месяцев назад

    I have the b8.5 S5 Supercharged 430hp, stock cooling. I bet it would overheat on the ring 😂

  • @M.A.X.tuned.
    @M.A.X.tuned. 6 месяцев назад

    Very much would like to see a Audi S3 8l !

  • @TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead
    @TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead 6 месяцев назад +4

    Stock cars are not so bad once you start modifying stuff either the suspension is too soft or the cooling system cant cope or the seats dont hold you in or you need more safety equipment etc. etc.
    Just put some decent tyres and brakes on a well maintained car and go do laps!

    • @anno1602
      @anno1602 6 месяцев назад

      they said this car was on stock suspension

  • @alexanderjanak4239
    @alexanderjanak4239 6 месяцев назад

    Misha mega video. Are you planning to do any lap with i30n DCT facelift version? as a i30n owner I would really like to see that one.

  • @robL84
    @robL84 6 месяцев назад

    Very nice V6T

  • @fredriktimren2242
    @fredriktimren2242 6 месяцев назад +5

    Interesting to know how much 3 extra passengers affect the handling of the car, suspension and lap time??

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  6 месяцев назад +12

      Much!

    • @gouldnj
      @gouldnj 6 месяцев назад +1

      I was just about to comment that, I mean who asks Misha for a hot lap and then loads an extra 200 kilos of ballast in the car for him?

  • @dimitri_43
    @dimitri_43 6 месяцев назад

    Dam proper audi 🤩🥰

  • @matiasbrandolini
    @matiasbrandolini 6 месяцев назад

    With both cams (front and rear passangers), the mic(s) are ecoing

  • @marvinvisser5039
    @marvinvisser5039 6 месяцев назад

    240kmh/150mph into swedenkreuz is what many 350hp cars do also. But this one was quite weighed down 😂😂 Fun to see the passengers move about in the back

    • @fff-fv6xh
      @fff-fv6xh 6 месяцев назад

      The car is like 1,8t itself. And it looks like all passengers are 100+kg each. So like 2,4t all together 😂

  • @amirulfahmi9376
    @amirulfahmi9376 6 месяцев назад

    Great videos! Shame if the car can’t handle full capacity passages. That what car should do

  • @wanderer7779
    @wanderer7779 6 месяцев назад

    It lost 1k rev limit because of the heat! I wouldn't touch the turbo until that gets sorted 😅

    • @Tunerfreak99
      @Tunerfreak99 6 месяцев назад +1

      The transmission protecting itself, needs a cooler

  • @VideoDotGoogleDotCom
    @VideoDotGoogleDotCom 6 месяцев назад

    Yellow - of course in the very best part!

  • @kdr_atio7161
    @kdr_atio7161 6 месяцев назад +1

    that audisteer tho, love the vid :)

  • @martinchapman2168
    @martinchapman2168 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good video

  • @kiskis0611
    @kiskis0611 6 месяцев назад

    their bodies was not ready for that :D

  • @vlmxs
    @vlmxs 6 месяцев назад

    This was surprisingly good car!
    ;)

    • @anno1602
      @anno1602 6 месяцев назад

      The S4 is a legend, nothing surprising about it

  • @AI-Records24
    @AI-Records24 6 месяцев назад +3

    Wondered what Phil Mitchell is up to these days😉

  • @killerpoet9496
    @killerpoet9496 6 месяцев назад +7

    Would be a lot better lap with less weight in the car but still a great lap and exciting content 😀

  • @tubejorrit
    @tubejorrit 6 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds pretty good for a v6

  • @matthewbowler6563
    @matthewbowler6563 6 месяцев назад

    KEEP YOUR CURRENT CAMERA THE COMPATIBILITY IS GOOD TURNS ON MY CREATOR 4K MODE ON MY SONY XPERIA 5II

  • @soty391
    @soty391 5 месяцев назад

    No problem with overheating ? Oil? Water ?

  • @pilotozetec
    @pilotozetec 6 месяцев назад

    The man in the back seat looks like the American Sniper.

  • @abdullah-kurtbas
    @abdullah-kurtbas 6 месяцев назад

    engine sound like super charged :) with extra weight on the back must improve the grip :D I remember my CLA 45 was crying at the corners :D

  • @micheltebraake7915
    @micheltebraake7915 6 месяцев назад

    Mooi.

    • @benlecluyse
      @benlecluyse 6 месяцев назад +1

      Inderdaad Michel !

  • @blondhelmet
    @blondhelmet 6 месяцев назад

    cool car

  • @user-cy3mu9uo5h
    @user-cy3mu9uo5h 6 месяцев назад

    Масло под 135...это новые тенденции и нормально на таких моторах ? Классный аппарат

  • @alexhentschel1080
    @alexhentschel1080 6 месяцев назад

    did you notice the redline kept changing from 6.5k to 5.5k. I thought maybe bc of the oil temp but it didnt seem to correlate

    • @WeirdNeville
      @WeirdNeville 6 месяцев назад +5

      It was the transmission temps not engine temps dictating redline!

    • @alexhentschel1080
      @alexhentschel1080 6 месяцев назад

      @@WeirdNeville ahhh well that makes sense!

  • @Cazie1872
    @Cazie1872 6 месяцев назад

    Respect a 4 seater car with no back seat lol 😆 nice though and with 4 in it 💯💯💥

  • @chrisbeckett9380
    @chrisbeckett9380 6 месяцев назад

    I thought the bald guy was going to come through my tv on numerous occasions 😂😂😂

  • @plumski86
    @plumski86 6 месяцев назад

    Holy Ballast Bois! 😂

  • @jayman3575
    @jayman3575 6 месяцев назад

    at 5:12 the limiter looked to have dropped to 5.5K...anyone with ideas of what happened?

    • @nitrorory
      @nitrorory 6 месяцев назад +4

      Overheating

    • @RM-fo4bs
      @RM-fo4bs 6 месяцев назад +5

      The cars probably tuned in a way that when it gets too hot the engine protects itself from overheating

    • @Bastlewastle
      @Bastlewastle 6 месяцев назад

      Oil is on 130 C

  • @fernandorubio972
    @fernandorubio972 3 месяца назад

    Otra vez el número 11, otra "casualidad"...

  • @jpecc8314
    @jpecc8314 6 месяцев назад +1

    B8 s4 please

  • @reallife4598
    @reallife4598 6 месяцев назад

    B9 what the wining nose

  • @zerooneonetwothree1872
    @zerooneonetwothree1872 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wait, didnt the redline drop because it was overheating?

  • @diar0346
    @diar0346 6 месяцев назад

    Is it supercharged :D? It sounded like that

  • @stefanomarcellino6701
    @stefanomarcellino6701 6 месяцев назад

    🔥 find a RS5/RS4 competition

  • @stuartjohnston7364
    @stuartjohnston7364 6 месяцев назад

    Shout out to Phil or Grant Mitchell in the back.... Cant make out which brother it is...