4:42 He works in construction? You mean his dad owns a building firm. 5:35 Why can nobody see that the privartely educated city trader IS the establishment?
You don't know what you're talking about. I'm in construction too, as a tradesmen, and I support reform as do most of my coworkers. Just because he is well spoken you assume him and I are profiting from nepotism? You're politics are stuck in the last decade, reform are the populist party who will deliver policy that is popular among the youth, they are the natural successor to corbynism, addressing the same problems but with actual meaningful solutions. The housing crisis will only worsen if immigration continues to run so rampantly out of control.
@sam-m7d9e Reform isn't going to fix the housing crisis. They might have found success in acknowledging it as a problem in a way the major parties refuse to, but the solution they offer is a plaster on a gaping wound. Even if they managed to completely stop all immigration (which is impossible but they'd probably manage to lower it), the root of the housing crisis is a shortage of construction. You don't fix that by reducing the number of working age people coming to the country, you fix that by tearing up the Town and Country Planning Act, the zoning law that has near singlehandedly caused the housing crisis in the UK and investing in more housing construction. Stopping immigration won't end the housing crisis, it will only slow it down. As long as Town and Country allows NIMBYs to prevent future construction and balloon the cost of construction through bureaucratic red tape, prices will remain out of reach. Reform doesn't offer real solutions. They acknowledge the real problems (which is better than labour or the tories) and then scapegoat immigrants for them instead of addressing the actual core of the problem.
@sam-m7d9e You wouldn't have to pay so much tax, or complain about everything, under reform's power because your wages would plummet and your hours would increase.
Our local council gave permission for 96 homes to be built on town centre land with a mixture of 2,3 and 4 bed homes.....4 months before the completion of the homes the entire project apart from two 2 bed homes were sold to a national rental company and all those homes are now rented at rents from 1 to 2k per month. From what I understand the selling of the two 2 bed homes to 2 families on the social housing waiting list meets all the criteria required.
Which party would be anti establishment? We don't have many choices when we vote so you need to pick whichever one has the most important policies for yourself. Sadly reform are the only party talking about immigration with the right intentions. I also voted JC in 2019 but have now moved to reform. Labour have 4 years to gain my vote again. Immigration is the biggest issue for voters now.
Ava absolutely getting why Labor is failing to engage with what was a large portion of their traditional voter base. To the extent those more center are watching this and seeing their concerns discussed. Then you read the comments like "Ava, the Reform spokesperson". If anyone here genuinely thinks the solution is labelling anyone who shares views they don't like, even if they are just pointing out why they gain traction, with silly labels like "reform spokesperson" "racist" "far right". This is exactly why things are falling apart. You either say everything the left is doing is perfect and beyond discussion, or your a racist far right spokesperson. Talk about issues. If they make you uncomfortable, then good! Clearly it is a topic that needs discussing. If you honestly think everything is going fine and all the disenfranchised people who are turning to populist movements is a great success of the main 2 parties, then you are part of the big problem that is coming.
Oh really, is that why the establishment debanked him and did everything possible to stop him becoming an MP, is that why he's against net zero that the establishment love, is that why he supports Trump that the establishment hate? yeah you got a stronge case there havent you...
Said the same pre Brexit Beware of the silent majority. The left are too arrogant and complacent! Imagine allowing in men who despise everything about you 😂
George Osbourne is right about it being austerity 2.0 but he never received the ridiculous scrutiny from the right wing media this govt is currently getting 6 months into it..
Right wing media will always try their best to push left parties to the right as much as possible. It's nonsensical to try and appease them, as opposed to fighting them
It is disappointing when your first Business Studies lesson draws you into the immigration fear circles. There are so many factors outside of supply that are causing house price issues. Most of it coming down a lot more to the money rather than supply. Not every problem in the country can be solved with a single racist hammer.
Our country is in grave danger wake up. These Islamist has never changed since the horrific days of Muhammad. Slaughtering millions of Christians. These people are aiming to try and take over our country that threat is real. Vote Reform if you want our country saved.
I agree we need to see both sides, but it would be nice to see some talk about the left, when was the last time u talked about corbin, or the greens? Have some of them on, really show both sides, not just the reform clicks, and please talk about the good labor have or are doing, like the grooming stuff, no one said a thing about it is in thier manifesto (under taking back our streets).
The problem is that the right wing politics is spectacle, whereas there is nothing newsworthy about the Greens slogging away day in day out doing unglamorous constituency work. That kind of thing is not considered important in a sensationalist culture like the UK has become.
Well ya see, unless you have a plan to eugenics the narcissism worldwide, it isn't really possible to be the lesser of two evils, you just end up making yourself weaker. Your island was worth a shit on the world stage because you were some of the biggest bigots, your island only has power now because it is the center of worldwide money laundering, human power comes from being worse. That is why it is so important to not make more humans.
@lewis123417 no I think there can be an inquiry, after the advice from the last one is put inplace, that would give more power to charge people and protect the victims in what is found, I mean the fact that if u read the labor manifesto, they talk about taking this on, none of the other party's (even the uk reform limited company and their pop-up book) didn't say anything about it.
@halfway2hell33383 let's not forget it was labour councils that failed these girls so labour only stand to benefit from rejecting a national inquiry, this is more of the same, more cover ups by labour. We can still implement the recommendations from the narrow, small in scope enquiry that was done and still hold another inquiry. The only reason for labours rejection of a proper inquiry is purely political to cover their own backs
To be honest the media has been saying for years that anyone other than Labour or the Tories are a threat. Look at the SNP, for years, they were labelled the greatest threat to the UK, but Scotland has been governed much more effectively by them compared to the two main parties.
That's nothing to do with establishment, gold itself is anti-establishment because its not a controlled fiat currency that the establishment controls, a typical jealous lefty automatically assumes wealth equals establishment, no establishment is about people lying to the public while they hold power, tricking them to accept the net zero scam, the diversity is our strength myth, transfering tax payers money to weapons companies by virtue signalling about Ukraine, Farage is against all of those establishment scams, so he IS ant-establishment, maybe you aren't!
trump was speaking to the under 35s, and when he spoke he said "THEY ARE EATING THE CATS AND THE DOGS OF THE PEOPLE" and said under 35s thought "thats the guy for me". 👏
"I don't want to sound condescending, but"... I like PoliticsJoe and always watch the podcast and interviews, but I'm always aware of the underlying snobbish beliefs
I’m so sorry! I meant to say good communicators, but totally fumbled my words and I always fear saying someone ‘speaks well’ sounds condescending, even when it’s not intended that way. I meant they sounded like politicians!
There will be quite a few Conservative voters who were half-thinking about voting for Reform in 2024, but decided against it in the end as they didn't want a Labour government. However, as Labour got a massive majority anyway, that won't be a reason for them not to vote Reform next time.
How many moderate Tories will go to the Lib Dems ? I can see the Libs winning over 100 seats . I think the most likely outcome is a Rainbow alliance to keep out the Right . Also don't underestimate the encumbancy factor at the next GE ,many MP's who are personally liked by their constituents will likely retain their seats.
The government has intentionally curbed housebuilding for years, to keep property prices high for land owners. They can't have it both ways and made their choice. Having enough houses will lower the value of middle class houses (which I find acceptable), but more importantly landlords hold a lot of sway over the politicians. Give it 20 years, with population decline things will rebalance, then immigration will be important again. The other part of the problem is the skills shortage and the fact we can only fill our jobs by brain draining other countries.
@tinap8227 we physically don't have the capacity to build the homes we need. Even labour can't promise more than 1.5 million which is still well under what we need?
@tinap8227 yes we cant allow big business to use "lack of workforce" as an excuse, they need to offer higher pay and more training, instead of being allowed to drain the world's supply of skilled labour
@tinap8227 how do you think carer wages have been able to remain so low despite massive demand? Instead of training and paying more, the NHS and private sector just hires from abroad instead of making the job more attractive to brits, these people while they do provide a service need housing and public services just like the rest of us and they suppress wage growth in certain sectors because unlimited supply of labour reduces the incentive to increase wages. Mass immigration allows us to remain a low wage economy, it only benefits big business
The first guy in the video seems to think that everyone who comes here on net is going to live in a house on their own. Many people live in families. Also, people who live here do occasionally die and free up houses etc.
The other bit he misses is home ownership is lower now than when council house numbers were at an all time high. Number of private landlords has a bigger impact on lack of homeownership than immigration.
Even if they're 2 or 3 to a house that's still a huge level of demand. I'm sorry but he's right. I voted Labour and am generally happy with Starmer. But they're exactly right to say that huge levels of net migration are pushing up house prices. We manage to build 200-250k houses a year. Even if we magically hit 300k that's not enough just to keep up with migration.
You've currently got a declining birth rate and an increasing mortality rate in the UK, net migration helped bring the population up just 1% this past year (which accounts for 0.9% of that increase), and according to Migration Observatory 90% of these are women and children. So yeah, his math is a bit off.
@@HeirToTheScarletSky House prices have been explosively growing for thirty years, and for the vast majority of that time period net migration was under six figures. Successive governments since the 1980s have made the determination that rising house prices are an unalloyed good and so have actively tried to stoke the market through buy-to-let-friendly policies and restricting supply. Migration is not a particularly significant contributor to house prices.
@russodoni5331 go look at a graph of house price increases. Up until 1997 there's a fairly steady increase. www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/uk-average-house-prices-1967-2021-1000x732.png Then it starts shooting up massively. Then check net migration figures. Under 100,000 until 1997, then massive uptick. www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/net-migration-uk-91-2022.png.webp
I do worry about the sheer amount of coverage given to Reform. That legitimizes their chances more than anything. Ava is also very neutral in her approach to talking about them which I respect for the most part but it also again overlooks the inherently racist issues that lie within the heart of the party. Like, let's look at these well spoken kids who side with a party that hates brown people. I know Joe don't align themselves with Reform but they do seem keen to overlook the main issues with them. As others have said too, can we please focus on other parties? Hell, I'll take a compilation of Ed Davey promoting policy whilst trying out various water park rides at this point.
In the days of traditional media being so toxic no newspapers, radio shows or TV channels would platform you might have worked but now with the Internet they have a platform available to them to make their policies known. Ignoring them just makes the left as a whole unaware of them and stops the left from confronting them on issues that are important to their base. immigration is a problem for us to tackle be it by building out more infrastructure or limiting it. Those are the two opposite sides of the argument on that policy but if the labour party doesn't push any policies or comms to tackle it because they aren't engaging with a huge sector of voters then they are paving the way for a repeat of the American election where loads of people on the left assumed Kamala would win against a literal felon and ultimately lost. You can't peer pressure someone in a voting booth and not adequately engaging just makes you look out of touch. So fundamentally I think being informed of the reform parties policies so you can push back against them in your own life when you hear them helps rather than hinders. Just to reiterate the reform party already has a platform on hundreds of conservative platforms. If what they're saying is attractive the people will come and the algorithms will definitely feed it to people who are "reform curious" so to speak
Thanks for this. So worrying as I have thought all it needed was finding a way of appealing to young people and getting some good looking tiktokers on board (like front national) which they seemed to have now managed. We do need real anti-establishment people on the left. What’s happened to the greens? As left wing media I think you need a stronger critical voice of reform. Highlighting the hypocrisy, the tricks, the flip-flopping, etc. some left leaning young people will probably vote reform…
They right on huge levels of migration causing a strain on housing. We can't build enough to keep up with demand. It doesn't make you right wing to say that. I hope Labour bring migration levels down significantly.
What´s causing a huge strain is that we don´t have enough social housing and anyone who denies that is part of the problem. Seriously, you could cut all migration tomorrow and you´d still have the same issue.
Developers don't build affordable housing because there's less profit in it, and most of what they build is snapped up by oligarchs & hedge funds - often before it's even built.
Migrants often end up in illegally packed HMOs. It's not one person one house. We can build enough, we're just not. (Remember when the targets were scrapped? No more motivation) There's more than one way to solve the problem, eg let's look at vacant second+ homes. An anti immigration position IS right wing. It's like a shoplifter stealing to feed their family saying "I'm not a thief." Facts don't care about motive.
It is right wing to say that. Only the right are making that argument. Only the greens and labour think we can import unlimited amount of numbers without any pressure on housing
I think so. Most people have proved how stupid and ignorant they are over the last 5 years. How he even has a platform after his role in Brexit is beyond me!
Lol because people who don't share your political views are "stupid and ignorant" lol the lefts lack of understanding of working class people is hilarious
@@TheLucanicLord Because he’s a canny media operator. Farage has pushed Reform and the issues they care about most to the top of the public agenda. It’s time Labour reversed the pressure back on to Farage: what would they do to improve public services? Reform would have to slash them because they want to cut taxes. It would be like the Tories on speed.
Speaking the truth from the British public as she sees it doesn’t mean she is a spokesperson - she is a political commentator so allowed to have an opinion from her perspective and unfortunately if you are in touch you can see that reform is building a lot of momentum 😩
I'm not going to accuse you of platforming them, but can we have some further insights into alternatives? They are there, just not as dominant in the news as Reform seem to be
@alfsmith4936 Are you joking, the establishment tried everything to stop them! Even tried to debank Farage but they underestimated him, as all woke establishment types do, they believe their own propaganda that he's thick and/or weak, like their own puppets Sunak and Starmer.
I used to vote for Jeremy corbyn now I’m a reform voter. Translation I’m a rube who wants to seem informed while being utterly clueless about real politics and what’s possible against what’s fantasy.
@@lewis123417precisely because even left leaning channels like this one never talk about them. Regardless, they will almost certainly gain millions more votes at the next election given they're the only anti-establishment party offering actual change - and don't claim that hating on immigrants will magically solve everything as the billionaires would have you believe.
Understanding that increasing tbe population by neatly a million people a year, is a problem, is not xenophobic. Mass immigration is completely unsustainable. How are you people still clinging to this nonsense. The entire western world is backing anti immigration parties because the negative impacts of mass immigration can no longer be ignored.
Reform voters know why they’re going to the polls. They have reforms 3 word slogans in their head. It frames all the negative things they see. I cant remember labours campaign slogan. I have no idea how their current performance ties into it. They need to keep reminding everyone. Never mind this “quiet bat people” approach to politics. We need “this was/is wrong. We fixed/are fixing it”.
Labour voters voted for a party that covered up mass pedophile gangs for the sake of diversity, so no Labour voter has any moral high ground to disparage any Reform voter.
It isn't austerity 2.0 unless the budget is cutting spending overall, and it's quite disingenuous to claim that. yes we would like to get back the things the Tories took away but the money just isn't there to "pump" it all straight back in. I hope by the end of the parliament we will see that things are getting better but it is going to take time. 14 years of breaking the country isn't going to be fixed in 6 months
you literally don't understand what austerity is... it is the underfunding of government departments, through cuts and below inflation budget increases, if the austerity budgets of the tory era remaining in place as they have was all it was you would be right it would still be austerity 1.0 not 2.0, however with the additional 2.5% cuts reeves is asking for in each department as well as the still-below-the-total-cumulative-inflation pay rises given to public sector in their deals means yes we definitely are doing austerity 2.0
@@Kohanman Day-to-day departmental spending will increase by 3.5% and 4.3% in real terms in 2024/25 and 2025/26 respectively. This is the largest average increase in planned day-to-day spending in 20 years, with planned increases in day-to-day spending between 2023/24 and 2025/26 now more generous than any of Blair and Brown’s spending reviews except 2002.The outgoing Conservative government left public services in an appalling state and returning them a decent standard will take at least this parliament. The budget should stabilise most services in the short-term and made the first tentative steps on the long road to recovery
I think you guys should do a piece on the current political spectrum hearing you reaffirm this is a left channel. Many think of the two dimensional left-right but the reality of today it’s three dimensional. People are flocking to Reform and equivalents in other countries as they are rejecting liberalism which has put minority interests ahead of local populations. Hence people looking for alternatives when the masses don’t get what they want I.e. lefties looking to Reform, which I think some people struggle to get their head around.
I think you're just describing the fact that many right wing parties just cosplay as somewhat left wing (ie anti-establishment - literally what Hitler did by calling his party "socialist"), but in reality they are just as pro-establishment as the centrists but with some more racism. And given that most people don't follow politics closely / think in terms of left and right they buy into it.
@ If we take Reform, they suggest to be the centre for the popular vote. But I don’t think that matters for most as it’s noises they make that resonates for some - undoing the liberalism seen since Tony Blair’s government.
I don’t see why reform won’t either win in 2029 or come second. I can completely emphasise with what these people are saying without ever voting for them. As the guy said himself he just wants a house, a good job and the environment to setup a family. How can that be so far away from people in any country never mind this one. There is no viable left wing party so they will go to what is left that hasn’t been tried and failed for 40 years +
These two are clearly completely out of touch and not very intelligent - fingers not on the pulse. Girl on the left said entrepreneurialship, which isn't a word.
Do you not think a war from 20 years ago has an impact on today? And doesn't the fact that the current lab leadership is so close to Blair(ites) personally and ideologically imply that they would behave in a similar manner today?!
@@stephenwood2172 two things, Starmer when working as a human rights lawyer challenged the Labour government at the time. I don't think a war from 25 years ago impacts a builder who is 26 and didn't have a family member involved in the war. Couldn't watch the rest of the Student Politics Joe.
Entitlement. If you are poor, you don't deserve a house the size your parents may have. Get a better paid job. If you failed to go to uni, don't become political and blame immigration.
No, they are the danger. Half their candidates were shown to be former BNP members or otherwise connected to the far-right. The only reason to vote for Reform is if you are a racist.
Hey dopes voted for Labour that covered up mass pedophile gangs for the sake of diversity, so there's no reason Reform cant win, they'll never do anything as bad as that.
The irony of Farage claiming to be anti-corporate
When Farage was a metals trader he worked for himself. Maybe why Musk has turned on him?
4:42 He works in construction? You mean his dad owns a building firm.
5:35 Why can nobody see that the privartely educated city trader IS the establishment?
You don't know what you're talking about. I'm in construction too, as a tradesmen, and I support reform as do most of my coworkers. Just because he is well spoken you assume him and I are profiting from nepotism?
You're politics are stuck in the last decade, reform are the populist party who will deliver policy that is popular among the youth, they are the natural successor to corbynism, addressing the same problems but with actual meaningful solutions.
The housing crisis will only worsen if immigration continues to run so rampantly out of control.
@sam-m7d9e Reform isn't going to fix the housing crisis. They might have found success in acknowledging it as a problem in a way the major parties refuse to, but the solution they offer is a plaster on a gaping wound. Even if they managed to completely stop all immigration (which is impossible but they'd probably manage to lower it), the root of the housing crisis is a shortage of construction. You don't fix that by reducing the number of working age people coming to the country, you fix that by tearing up the Town and Country Planning Act, the zoning law that has near singlehandedly caused the housing crisis in the UK and investing in more housing construction. Stopping immigration won't end the housing crisis, it will only slow it down. As long as Town and Country allows NIMBYs to prevent future construction and balloon the cost of construction through bureaucratic red tape, prices will remain out of reach.
Reform doesn't offer real solutions. They acknowledge the real problems (which is better than labour or the tories) and then scapegoat immigrants for them instead of addressing the actual core of the problem.
@sam-m7d9e You wouldn't have to pay so much tax, or complain about everything, under reform's power because your wages would plummet and your hours would increase.
@sam-m7d9edid you listen to the guy speak?
@sam-m7d9e You must have had bricks hit you in the head on site if you think Reform is going to help young people and not just line their own pockets.
As long as residential housing is an investment, demand will NEVER go down. And big investors will ALWAYS stop increases in offer.
Our local council gave permission for 96 homes to be built on town centre land with a mixture of 2,3 and 4 bed homes.....4 months before the completion of the homes the entire project apart from two 2 bed homes were sold to a national rental company and all those homes are now rented at rents from 1 to 2k per month. From what I understand the selling of the two 2 bed homes to 2 families on the social housing waiting list meets all the criteria required.
This is it 👏🏼
Which party would be anti establishment? We don't have many choices when we vote so you need to pick whichever one has the most important policies for yourself. Sadly reform are the only party talking about immigration with the right intentions. I also voted JC in 2019 but have now moved to reform. Labour have 4 years to gain my vote again. Immigration is the biggest issue for voters now.
@@matty506 residential housing is an investment because rich people.
You expect that voting for another group of rich people will fix it?
@@parametr They invest in it because theres a massive demand for it. Less people means less demand. How are you not seeing that.
It's insane how Farage totes himself as anti coporate capitalism.
Musk wants Farage to resign and Reform basically doesn't exist without Farage anyways so it's a win-win in my books.
Cry harder leftie
I think reform would be better without him. He's the picture boy for the far right in many people's eyes and looses more votes than he gains.
Ava absolutely getting why Labor is failing to engage with what was a large portion of their traditional voter base. To the extent those more center are watching this and seeing their concerns discussed. Then you read the comments like "Ava, the Reform spokesperson". If anyone here genuinely thinks the solution is labelling anyone who shares views they don't like, even if they are just pointing out why they gain traction, with silly labels like "reform spokesperson" "racist" "far right". This is exactly why things are falling apart. You either say everything the left is doing is perfect and beyond discussion, or your a racist far right spokesperson. Talk about issues. If they make you uncomfortable, then good! Clearly it is a topic that needs discussing. If you honestly think everything is going fine and all the disenfranchised people who are turning to populist movements is a great success of the main 2 parties, then you are part of the big problem that is coming.
If you keep saying things that align with Umberto Eco's ur fascism, don't play the 'shocked Pikachu' card, when people call you fascist.
MAGA-troll?
He's spot on about the housing.
Farage is the establishment.
Oh really, is that why the establishment debanked him and did everything possible to stop him becoming an MP, is that why he's against net zero that the establishment love, is that why he supports Trump that the establishment hate?
yeah you got a stronge case there havent you...
Utter nonsense.
@@jeromefranklin-ryan5985 Utter delusion(on your part)
Said the same pre Brexit
Beware of the silent majority. The left are too arrogant and complacent! Imagine allowing in men who despise everything about you
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the billionaire establishment. stop trying to snog him. youre not his type
George Osbourne is right about it being austerity 2.0 but he never received the ridiculous scrutiny from the right wing media this govt is currently getting 6 months into it..
Scrutiny is good.
Right wing media will always try their best to push left parties to the right as much as possible. It's nonsensical to try and appease them, as opposed to fighting them
It is disappointing when your first Business Studies lesson draws you into the immigration fear circles.
There are so many factors outside of supply that are causing house price issues. Most of it coming down a lot more to the money rather than supply. Not every problem in the country can be solved with a single racist hammer.
Our country is in grave danger wake up. These Islamist has never changed since the horrific days of Muhammad. Slaughtering millions of Christians. These people are aiming to try and take over our country that threat is real. Vote Reform if you want our country saved.
I agree we need to see both sides, but it would be nice to see some talk about the left, when was the last time u talked about corbin, or the greens? Have some of them on, really show both sides, not just the reform clicks, and please talk about the good labor have or are doing, like the grooming stuff, no one said a thing about it is in thier manifesto (under taking back our streets).
The problem is that the right wing politics is spectacle, whereas there is nothing newsworthy about the Greens slogging away day in day out doing unglamorous constituency work. That kind of thing is not considered important in a sensationalist culture like the UK has become.
Well ya see, unless you have a plan to eugenics the narcissism worldwide, it isn't really possible to be the lesser of two evils, you just end up making yourself weaker. Your island was worth a shit on the world stage because you were some of the biggest bigots, your island only has power now because it is the center of worldwide money laundering, human power comes from being worse. That is why it is so important to not make more humans.
Like the grooming stuff? You mean like refusing an inquiry so their own failings aren't exposed. Oh yes how lovely labour are
@lewis123417 no I think there can be an inquiry, after the advice from the last one is put inplace, that would give more power to charge people and protect the victims in what is found, I mean the fact that if u read the labor manifesto, they talk about taking this on, none of the other party's (even the uk reform limited company and their pop-up book) didn't say anything about it.
@halfway2hell33383 let's not forget it was labour councils that failed these girls so labour only stand to benefit from rejecting a national inquiry, this is more of the same, more cover ups by labour. We can still implement the recommendations from the narrow, small in scope enquiry that was done and still hold another inquiry. The only reason for labours rejection of a proper inquiry is purely political to cover their own backs
To be honest the media has been saying for years that anyone other than Labour or the Tories are a threat. Look at the SNP, for years, they were labelled the greatest threat to the UK, but Scotland has been governed much more effectively by them compared to the two main parties.
Anti establishment from the guy that gets paid £200k to sell gold bullion!
That's nothing to do with establishment, gold itself is anti-establishment because its not a controlled fiat currency that the establishment controls, a typical jealous lefty automatically assumes wealth equals establishment, no establishment is about people lying to the public while they hold power, tricking them to accept the net zero scam, the diversity is our strength myth, transfering tax payers money to weapons companies by virtue signalling about Ukraine, Farage is against all of those establishment scams, so he IS ant-establishment, maybe you aren't!
If Farage was promoting a gold bullion firm , I'd definitely not buy from them.
@@johnburrows3385 £200k for selling gold
£200k for presenting a GB News programme 4 nights a week.
He really is the definition of anti establishment.
trump was speaking to the under 35s, and when he spoke he said "THEY ARE EATING THE CATS AND THE DOGS OF THE PEOPLE" and said under 35s thought "thats the guy for me".
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"I don't want to sound condescending, but"... I like PoliticsJoe and always watch the podcast and interviews, but I'm always aware of the underlying snobbish beliefs
I was so embarrassed to hear that too. Think Laura might need a few more classes in journalism off-camera tbh.
Im the same. I enjoy the topics and discussion but there is a consistent under current of virtue signalling.
I’m so sorry! I meant to say good communicators, but totally fumbled my words and I always fear saying someone ‘speaks well’ sounds condescending, even when it’s not intended that way. I meant they sounded like politicians!
I always find it funny hearing people say “I’m just against the establishment” and then votes for the establishment (reform)
There will be quite a few Conservative voters who were half-thinking about voting for Reform in 2024, but decided against it in the end as they didn't want a Labour government. However, as Labour got a massive majority anyway, that won't be a reason for them not to vote Reform next time.
I hear Andrew Tate is starting a party now lol
@alfsmith4936 Errrr... good for him?
How many moderate Tories will go to the Lib Dems ? I can see the Libs winning over 100 seats . I think the most likely outcome is a Rainbow alliance to keep out the Right . Also don't underestimate the encumbancy factor at the next GE ,many MP's who are personally liked by their constituents will likely retain their seats.
@@markaldridge389 It's almost as if they all think president Musk is as gullible as they are, isn't it?
Sorry but its basic mathematics. We cant build enough houses to accomodate the numbers of immigrants we allow in
The government has intentionally curbed housebuilding for years, to keep property prices high for land owners. They can't have it both ways and made their choice. Having enough houses will lower the value of middle class houses (which I find acceptable), but more importantly landlords hold a lot of sway over the politicians.
Give it 20 years, with population decline things will rebalance, then immigration will be important again. The other part of the problem is the skills shortage and the fact we can only fill our jobs by brain draining other countries.
@tinap8227 we physically don't have the capacity to build the homes we need. Even labour can't promise more than 1.5 million which is still well under what we need?
@tinap8227 again it's just basically mathematics, we cant afford for our population to be growing so rapidly. We don't have the capacity or the money
@tinap8227 yes we cant allow big business to use "lack of workforce" as an excuse, they need to offer higher pay and more training, instead of being allowed to drain the world's supply of skilled labour
@tinap8227 how do you think carer wages have been able to remain so low despite massive demand? Instead of training and paying more, the NHS and private sector just hires from abroad instead of making the job more attractive to brits, these people while they do provide a service need housing and public services just like the rest of us and they suppress wage growth in certain sectors because unlimited supply of labour reduces the incentive to increase wages. Mass immigration allows us to remain a low wage economy, it only benefits big business
you silly people, its coming get used to it hurty words and all
Trying to imagine Primark in Liverpool realigning all their tills to face towards Mecca lol
The people interviewed in this video are really articulate and have a genuine axe to grind against the establishment political parties.
Just more racists in suits. They've no idea what it was like being non-white under a hard right wing party.
They're cosplaying Ruperts. I bet none of them went to state school.
Yet none of them are smart enough to realise Farage represents and has always represented the interests of the establishment and the rich
@@TheLucanicLordlovely bit of identity politics there mate
The first guy in the video seems to think that everyone who comes here on net is going to live in a house on their own. Many people live in families. Also, people who live here do occasionally die and free up houses etc.
The other bit he misses is home ownership is lower now than when council house numbers were at an all time high. Number of private landlords has a bigger impact on lack of homeownership than immigration.
Even if they're 2 or 3 to a house that's still a huge level of demand.
I'm sorry but he's right. I voted Labour and am generally happy with Starmer.
But they're exactly right to say that huge levels of net migration are pushing up house prices. We manage to build 200-250k houses a year. Even if we magically hit 300k that's not enough just to keep up with migration.
You've currently got a declining birth rate and an increasing mortality rate in the UK, net migration helped bring the population up just 1% this past year (which accounts for 0.9% of that increase), and according to Migration Observatory 90% of these are women and children. So yeah, his math is a bit off.
@@HeirToTheScarletSky House prices have been explosively growing for thirty years, and for the vast majority of that time period net migration was under six figures. Successive governments since the 1980s have made the determination that rising house prices are an unalloyed good and so have actively tried to stoke the market through buy-to-let-friendly policies and restricting supply. Migration is not a particularly significant contributor to house prices.
@russodoni5331 go look at a graph of house price increases. Up until 1997 there's a fairly steady increase.
www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/uk-average-house-prices-1967-2021-1000x732.png
Then it starts shooting up massively.
Then check net migration figures. Under 100,000 until 1997, then massive uptick.
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I do worry about the sheer amount of coverage given to Reform. That legitimizes their chances more than anything. Ava is also very neutral in her approach to talking about them which I respect for the most part but it also again overlooks the inherently racist issues that lie within the heart of the party. Like, let's look at these well spoken kids who side with a party that hates brown people. I know Joe don't align themselves with Reform but they do seem keen to overlook the main issues with them. As others have said too, can we please focus on other parties? Hell, I'll take a compilation of Ed Davey promoting policy whilst trying out various water park rides at this point.
In the days of traditional media being so toxic no newspapers, radio shows or TV channels would platform you might have worked but now with the Internet they have a platform available to them to make their policies known. Ignoring them just makes the left as a whole unaware of them and stops the left from confronting them on issues that are important to their base. immigration is a problem for us to tackle be it by building out more infrastructure or limiting it. Those are the two opposite sides of the argument on that policy but if the labour party doesn't push any policies or comms to tackle it because they aren't engaging with a huge sector of voters then they are paving the way for a repeat of the American election where loads of people on the left assumed Kamala would win against a literal felon and ultimately lost. You can't peer pressure someone in a voting booth and not adequately engaging just makes you look out of touch. So fundamentally I think being informed of the reform parties policies so you can push back against them in your own life when you hear them helps rather than hinders. Just to reiterate the reform party already has a platform on hundreds of conservative platforms. If what they're saying is attractive the people will come and the algorithms will definitely feed it to people who are "reform curious" so to speak
Thanks for this. So worrying as I have thought all it needed was finding a way of appealing to young people and getting some good looking tiktokers on board (like front national) which they seemed to have now managed. We do need real anti-establishment people on the left. What’s happened to the greens? As left wing media I think you need a stronger critical voice of reform. Highlighting the hypocrisy, the tricks, the flip-flopping, etc. some left leaning young people will probably vote reform…
They right on huge levels of migration causing a strain on housing. We can't build enough to keep up with demand.
It doesn't make you right wing to say that. I hope Labour bring migration levels down significantly.
What´s causing a huge strain is that we don´t have enough social housing and anyone who denies that is part of the problem. Seriously, you could cut all migration tomorrow and you´d still have the same issue.
Developers don't build affordable housing because there's less profit in it, and most of what they build is snapped up by oligarchs & hedge funds - often before it's even built.
Migrants often end up in illegally packed HMOs. It's not one person one house.
We can build enough, we're just not. (Remember when the targets were scrapped? No more motivation)
There's more than one way to solve the problem, eg let's look at vacant second+ homes.
An anti immigration position IS right wing. It's like a shoplifter stealing to feed their family saying "I'm not a thief." Facts don't care about motive.
It is right wing to say that. Only the right are making that argument. Only the greens and labour think we can import unlimited amount of numbers without any pressure on housing
@@lewis123417 utter nonsense (the second part).
My comment agreeing with the first part got deleted.
I think so. Most people have proved how stupid and ignorant they are over the last 5 years.
How he even has a platform after his role in Brexit is beyond me!
Because the people who vote for him live in the "no fact zone", who needs facts if you have a strong opinion about something?
Ahh there it is… ☕️ 🐸 The tried and trusted excuse when neoliberalism fails and people vote elsewhere…
“Muh voters are stupid racizzs”
I blame the media. How often is toadface on the TV compared to the GlibDums, who have vastly more MPs?
Lol because people who don't share your political views are "stupid and ignorant" lol the lefts lack of understanding of working class people is hilarious
@@TheLucanicLord
Because he’s a canny media operator. Farage has pushed Reform and the issues they care about most to the top of the public agenda. It’s time Labour reversed the pressure back on to Farage: what would they do to improve public services? Reform would have to slash them because they want to cut taxes. It would be like the Tories on speed.
Ava, the Reform spokesperson.
Speaking the truth from the British public as she sees it doesn’t mean she is a spokesperson - she is a political commentator so allowed to have an opinion from her perspective and unfortunately if you are in touch you can see that reform is building a lot of momentum 😩
@@aci6828 I think you might be taking sarcasm seriously mate..
I'm not going to accuse you of platforming them, but can we have some further insights into alternatives? They are there, just not as dominant in the news as Reform seem to be
They are already the 3rd biggest party. They didn't exactly try very hard.
That's just plain wrong. The lib Dems are the 3rd biggest party.
Establishment backing does that.
@alfsmith4936 Are you joking, the establishment tried everything to stop them! Even tried to debank Farage but they underestimated him, as all woke establishment types do, they believe their own propaganda that he's thick and/or weak, like their own puppets Sunak and Starmer.
More Laura! Always give her a mic!
I used to vote for Jeremy corbyn now I’m a reform voter. Translation I’m a rube who wants to seem informed while being utterly clueless about real politics and what’s possible against what’s fantasy.
Tidak mengerti Kalian itu.. Bapak.. 🙏
Hanya simbol tuhan.. 🌅
Such a Left leaning channel that the count of Reform segments to Green segments is like 100-1.
Probably because the greens are going nowhere
@@lewis123417precisely because even left leaning channels like this one never talk about them.
Regardless, they will almost certainly gain millions more votes at the next election given they're the only anti-establishment party offering actual change - and don't claim that hating on immigrants will magically solve everything as the billionaires would have you believe.
Am I the only one who’s growing tired of PolJoe’s relentless coverage of Farage and Reform?
Farage will do a coalition with the Tories, in my view, or a supply arrangement. His no1 aim is self enrichment, his no 2 aim is xenophobia.
Understanding that increasing tbe population by neatly a million people a year, is a problem, is not xenophobic. Mass immigration is completely unsustainable. How are you people still clinging to this nonsense. The entire western world is backing anti immigration parties because the negative impacts of mass immigration can no longer be ignored.
Tories have more in common with Labour than they do Reform, they are more likely to team up and would be a better match with each other.
@sonofsomerset1695 we'll see...
anti establishment...so i wanna support a party/co full of millionaires!!!!
Great pod.
We love Farage he supports the poor in all he does. Gives all his profits to charities like the channel.
Reform voters know why they’re going to the polls. They have reforms 3 word slogans in their head. It frames all the negative things they see. I cant remember labours campaign slogan. I have no idea how their current performance ties into it. They need to keep reminding everyone. Never mind this “quiet bat people” approach to politics. We need “this was/is wrong. We fixed/are fixing it”.
Labour voters voted for a party that covered up mass pedophile gangs for the sake of diversity, so no Labour voter has any moral high ground to disparage any Reform voter.
It isn't austerity 2.0 unless the budget is cutting spending overall, and it's quite disingenuous to claim that. yes we would like to get back the things the Tories took away but the money just isn't there to "pump" it all straight back in. I hope by the end of the parliament we will see that things are getting better but it is going to take time. 14 years of breaking the country isn't going to be fixed in 6 months
you literally don't understand what austerity is... it is the underfunding of government departments, through cuts and below inflation budget increases, if the austerity budgets of the tory era remaining in place as they have was all it was you would be right it would still be austerity 1.0 not 2.0, however with the additional 2.5% cuts reeves is asking for in each department as well as the still-below-the-total-cumulative-inflation pay rises given to public sector in their deals means yes we definitely are doing austerity 2.0
@@Kohanman Day-to-day departmental spending will increase by 3.5% and 4.3% in real terms in 2024/25 and 2025/26 respectively. This is the largest average increase in planned day-to-day spending in 20 years, with planned increases in day-to-day spending between 2023/24 and 2025/26 now more generous than any of Blair and Brown’s spending reviews except 2002.The outgoing Conservative government left public services in an appalling state and returning them a decent standard will take at least this parliament. The budget should stabilise most services in the short-term and made the first tentative steps on the long road to recovery
Not a chance in hell.
I don’t think I would consciously use Mr Farage’s first name causally.
Nigel,Nigel Nigel and the fact you can support any of the other 3 with what is going on says your a CRETIN anyway!
Yeah. Only the greats are known by their surname 😂
When did you become so bigoted Patrick?
I think you guys should do a piece on the current political spectrum hearing you reaffirm this is a left channel. Many think of the two dimensional left-right but the reality of today it’s three dimensional. People are flocking to Reform and equivalents in other countries as they are rejecting liberalism which has put minority interests ahead of local populations. Hence people looking for alternatives when the masses don’t get what they want I.e. lefties looking to Reform, which I think some people struggle to get their head around.
I think you're just describing the fact that many right wing parties just cosplay as somewhat left wing (ie anti-establishment - literally what Hitler did by calling his party "socialist"), but in reality they are just as pro-establishment as the centrists but with some more racism.
And given that most people don't follow politics closely / think in terms of left and right they buy into it.
@ If we take Reform, they suggest to be the centre for the popular vote. But I don’t think that matters for most as it’s noises they make that resonates for some - undoing the liberalism seen since Tony Blair’s government.
Reform, Brexit party, UKIP, BNP same party "same elite"
Strange they are different parties then, if you think they are the elites then there's no hope for you.
they are the rabid dogs of the elite class not the elite themselves, apart from a few public schooled managers like mosley...sorry, farage
tosh
I don’t see why reform won’t either win in 2029 or come second. I can completely emphasise with what these people are saying without ever voting for them. As the guy said himself he just wants a house, a good job and the environment to setup a family. How can that be so far away from people in any country never mind this one. There is no viable left wing party so they will go to what is left that hasn’t been tried and failed for 40 years +
Bloody hell! more platforms than a Mario game
Threat? Threat to what?
How middle class and tame,
These two are clearly completely out of touch and not very intelligent - fingers not on the pulse. Girl on the left said entrepreneurialship, which isn't a word.
If Labour offer little hope, then out of deparation the public could well turn to farage and his bs.
So the builder is annoyed about the Iraq war that happened when he was 1 year old.
Do you not think a war from 20 years ago has an impact on today?
And doesn't the fact that the current lab leadership is so close to Blair(ites) personally and ideologically imply that they would behave in a similar manner today?!
@@stephenwood2172 two things, Starmer when working as a human rights lawyer challenged the Labour government at the time.
I don't think a war from 25 years ago impacts a builder who is 26 and didn't have a family member involved in the war.
Couldn't watch the rest of the Student Politics Joe.
Entitlement. If you are poor, you don't deserve a house the size your parents may have. Get a better paid job. If you failed to go to uni, don't become political and blame immigration.
Yea fuck em. People shouldn't get ideas above their station anyway, how dare they want to one day own a house. Plebs
Oh dahling
This channel still going! Bored
Yes Reform are.
Day 89 of asking for a production team microphone.
Love the balance on this channel of intelegent high level analysis and a good laugh. Keep it up!
They're our only hope left. Thats how sad it's become in this miserable place.
No, they are the danger. Half their candidates were shown to be former BNP members or otherwise connected to the far-right. The only reason to vote for Reform is if you are a racist.
Yes
I mean if you keep manufacturing consent with your constant Farage obsessed video titles, I'm sure they will be a credible threat.
Pmsl worried about the free press?
Was it embarrassing to watch your leader bend over backwards to appease foreign billionaire only to be denounced by him the next day?
Was it embarrassing watching your leader bend over backwards for a foreign billionaire only to be denounced by him the next day?
Hey dopes voted for Labour that covered up mass pedophile gangs for the sake of diversity, so there's no reason Reform cant win, they'll never do anything as bad as that.
Was it embarrassing when your leader bent over backwards to impress a foreign billionaire only to get denounced by him a day later?
You have already lost.
No
Tommy Robinosn natural Reform Leader !
No he's not 😂 farage has made it clear he's not welcome
@@lewis123417 Tommy supports Ukip anyway
Fascists rise with radicalism, this pretty par for the course imo.
When is Fartage going to carry out clown show in Scotland
He will never come back to Scotland. How anyone in Scotland actually voted for this racist party appals me
He tried to book Starmer for his clown show but he was busy messing up the country by being a clown in number 10.