Drones are used to assassinate people indiscriminately with no due process and no accountability for the people ordering or carrying out the assassinations. Any dead bodies found are automatically classified as terrorists if they are male and of a certain age - this type of behaviour by the USA quite understandably pisses off everybody, especially the families of the local people who were executed by the US. The US makes it near impossible for the survivors to get even a acknowledgement their family members were killed wrongfully, and of the 1 or 2 cases where the evidence is so overwhelming that US couldn't keep denying it, they added insult to injury by offering only $2k compensation for assassinating their whole family.
This video is mostly FAKE NEWS! This comment outlines expert, scholarly publications in the literature and official policy/legal/doctrine documents; To learn the domestic/international law/policy regarding drone strikes, see the following documents: 1) DOJ's May 25, 2011, White Paper on Legality of a Lethal Operations by the CIA against a US Citizen 2) 2014 DoD Report to Congress on Process for Determining Targets of Lethal or Capture Operations 3) DOJ July 16, 2010, memorandum, Re: Applicability of Federal Criminal Laws and the Constitution to Contemplated Lethal Operations Against Shaykh Anwar alAulaqi 4) DOJ White Paper, Lawfulness of a Lethal Operation Directed Against a U.S. Citizen Who Is a Senior Operational Leader of Al-Qa'ida or An Associated Force Now, are they effective? Answer: A clear yes! See, 1) Patrick B. Johnston, Anoop K. Sarbahi; The Impact of US Drone Strikes on Terrorism in Pakistan, International Studies Quarterly, Volume 60, Issue 2, 1 June 2016, Pages 203-219 2) Aqil Shah, Do U.S. Drone Strikes Cause Blowback? Evidence from Pakistan and Beyond, International Security Volume 42 | Issue 04 | Spring 2018 p.47-84 3) Bryan C. Price. “Targeting Top Terrorists: How Leadership Decapitation Contributes to Counterterrorism.” Quarterly Journal: International Security, vol. 4. no. 36. (Spring 2012): 9-46 4) Report: ISR Support to Small Footprint CT Operations - Somalia/Yemen, ISR Task Force Reg and Analysis Division Feb 2013 For an understanding of LOAC, ROEs, SPINS, STARS, CDE, PID, etc: 1) Targeting, Air Force doctrine document 2-1.9 8 June 2006 2) McNeal, Gregory S., Targeted Killing and Accountability (March 5, 2014). 102 Georgetown Law Journal 681-794 (2014) 3) Joint Fire Support, Joint Publication 3-09 4) Commander’s Handbook for Joint Battle Damage Assessment, 1 June 2004 5) Major James A. Burkart (JAG), Deadly Advice: Judge Advocates and Joint Targeting, The Army Lawyer, June 2016 6) Merriam, John, Affirmative Target Identification: Operationalizing the Principle of Distinction for U.S. Warfighters (April 15, 2015). 56:1 Virginia Journal of International Law 83 (2016). 7) Corn, Geoffrey S. and Corn, Gary P., The Law of Operational Targeting: Viewing the LOAC Through an Operational Lens (August 21, 2011). Texas International Law Journal, 2012 8) Schmitt, Michael N. and Biller, Jeffrey et al; Joint and Combined Targeting: System and Process (August 25, 2016). Weighing Lives in War (Jens Ohlin, Larry May & Claire Finkelstein eds. Oxford University Press 2017) 9) CJCS Instruction: No-Strike and the Collateral Damage Estimation Methodology, 2012 10) Targeting and the Law of War Administrative Investigations & Criminal Law Supplement To really drive this home, I recommend the following legal textbooks and treatises on the subject: 1) Geoffrey S. Corn, Rachel E. VanLandingham et al; U.S. Military Operations Law, Policy, and Practice, 2015 2) William H. Boothby and Michael N. Schmitt; The Law of Targeting, 2012 3) Terry D. Gill and Dieter Fleck; The Handbook of the International Law of Military Operations 2nd edition, 2016 4) William Boothby, Weapons and the Law of Armed Conflict 2nd Edition, 2016 Australia, UK, and others have almost identical approaches.
Might want to read _2014 DoD Report to Congress on Process for Determining Targets of Lethal or Capture Operation_ that I mentioned above - lethal strikes are only authorised when capture missions aren't possible. Further, the stated main objective of the Yakla raid was to gather intel. On that ground, it was a success. I hope we get through FOIA the AR 15-6 civcas investigation, and the investigation into the whole raid itself to gain more understanding. I'd hold off any opinion on it until then.
Drones is not only seeds of terrorism it is the end of local rebellion against the globally powerful. It is unique in that matter in humankind history where resilience could only count on local indignation.
The human cycles of violence should be clearly understood by all for what it is, like dancing, it requires at least two partners. We can only break this cycle if only we can recognize in ourselves are all others and conversely all others in ourselves. Rather than saying I'm from X, Y, or Z country, or X, Y, or Z race/people/tribe/etc., how about saying, "I'm a fellow citizen of the earth, and are we not all citizens of the earth, are we not all earthlings together, sharing together a planet of limited resources? Are we not one species, and as such, should we have a higher obligation toward one another?" We are always so quick to point a finger at some "other" when in the end it's just human on human violence; though we are such a clever species that we can come up with 1001 ways to justify it (the violence) in any form.
There must be a better analogy than the dancing one, which infers that both stepped onto the dance floor voluntarily - or that both showed up to dance at all. I am reminded of the murders from helicopters caught on video and stored away from prying eyes until a copy was sent to Wikileaks. One of the team, rationalizes the firing on children as "They should know better than to bring their kids to a firefight." - Clearly a case where only one side was aware that the other side has designated that site as a "dance hall". To borrow a song line, "where you can check-out anytime you want, but you can never leave." One part of the Dance example holds true for me. It is like the expensive Ballet, with far more of the participants (through their funding and attendance) sitting in the audience (in fancy dress, with full bellies) than on the stage - able to exit at will or whim with the slightest of effort and no resistance from the Theater Management. It is The Destroyer's nature to harm others. Often, but not always, under some legally-crafted premise. We have been entrusted with tools to create fewer Destroyer-mentality persons (with succinct teachings like the "Do unto others" one), but have allowed such teachings to be infrequent adjuncts instead of starting points.
gojirazilla1 good words. A hero in America is a terrorist abroad, just as what we view as terrorist here in the US are heroes in their homelands. Bloodshed on both sides is absolutely useless and I find it hard to comprehend that we are still acting like Neanderthals in the 21st century.
Hello @The Intercept. At 6:27 you quote a WSJ piece dated March 2015. This date must be mistaken as, obviously, Trump didn't take office until January 2017. Was the piece from March 2017?
Erik Paulsen but was it necessary to kill his two children one 13 years old another 8 years old. BTW no charges were bought against alwaki. As the citizen of united states you have to be charged and be judged by your peers before one is convicted of any crime. As a US citizen alwaki never got a day in court. Becoming a judge jury and executioner of its own citizen sounds very much similar to the judicial process of a third world country which my family and I left so that we could be part of a progressive society.
If some one killed my family member I would get revenge no matter what they called me. Terrorist or whatever.. let them give me whatever name. I dont care
Why would you think that? If the US could have had drones in Vietnam or Korea, the US would've used em. There's no doubt in that. It's only that the US is interested in Muslim lands and the natural resources under those lands at this point and time.
These people had the guts to say the truth of American terrorism to their judicial authorities to face to face in the major muslim nations....But i don't support the avenge and Islam too....
You guys should do a video on George H.W. Bush's (the first Bush administration's) role in the 1991 Soviet coup d'état attempt en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt which eventually resulted in the Putin Regime and the formation of the Russian Federation as a whole...
Yah, drones suck!!! Really do. I agree. Maybe just don’t bother with the Taliban and do nothing. Just chill. Right? So you can’t find something to complain about. And just keep those lovely oppressive regimes. Those people are fine. I wonder why our video fails to mention any alternatives to drone strikes. Weird...
When Gangrene is not treated for a long period, amputation is required to save that person's life, same way to save the world, drone attacks are required...
They do, even for the people who operate them from afar. These are disgusting weapons that seperate the murderer from the victim. If it feels like a video game, it wont be like the decision faced, whether by order or to survive, to kill another human
I believe the intercept is the most important projects of our time ..
Drones are used to assassinate people indiscriminately with no due process and no accountability for the people ordering or carrying out the assassinations. Any dead bodies found are automatically classified as terrorists if they are male and of a certain age - this type of behaviour by the USA quite understandably pisses off everybody, especially the families of the local people who were executed by the US. The US makes it near impossible for the survivors to get even a acknowledgement their family members were killed wrongfully, and of the 1 or 2 cases where the evidence is so overwhelming that US couldn't keep denying it, they added insult to injury by offering only $2k compensation for assassinating their whole family.
Why don't we have more Mahdis.
Manufacturing consent for a manufactured war on terror. For money.
and Israel and the NWO
Children are angels and when you kill them. God will punish without doubt. The Pharaoh was punished.
Yes every action have a reaction and terror will create a terror.
Thank you Medhi for giving us the truth in reporting. More like you are needed.
Anwar Al-awlaki's daughter was killed during the Yakla raid by bullet fire from a helicopter. But her brother was extra-judicially by a drone strike.
patrick flynn and wasn't she killed because of Trump since it was on his watch?
This video is mostly FAKE NEWS! This comment outlines expert, scholarly publications in the literature and official policy/legal/doctrine documents;
To learn the domestic/international law/policy regarding drone strikes, see the following documents:
1) DOJ's May 25, 2011, White Paper on Legality of a Lethal Operations by the CIA against a US Citizen
2) 2014 DoD Report to Congress on Process for Determining Targets of Lethal or Capture Operations
3) DOJ July 16, 2010, memorandum, Re: Applicability of Federal Criminal Laws and the Constitution to
Contemplated Lethal Operations Against Shaykh Anwar alAulaqi
4) DOJ White Paper, Lawfulness of a Lethal Operation Directed Against a U.S. Citizen Who
Is a Senior Operational Leader of Al-Qa'ida or An Associated Force
Now, are they effective? Answer: A clear yes! See,
1) Patrick B. Johnston, Anoop K. Sarbahi; The Impact of US Drone Strikes on Terrorism in Pakistan, International Studies Quarterly,
Volume 60, Issue 2, 1 June 2016, Pages 203-219
2) Aqil Shah, Do U.S. Drone Strikes Cause Blowback? Evidence from Pakistan and Beyond, International Security
Volume 42 | Issue 04 | Spring 2018 p.47-84
3) Bryan C. Price. “Targeting Top Terrorists: How Leadership Decapitation Contributes to Counterterrorism.”
Quarterly Journal: International Security, vol. 4. no. 36. (Spring 2012): 9-46
4) Report: ISR Support to Small Footprint CT Operations - Somalia/Yemen, ISR Task Force Reg and Analysis Division Feb 2013
For an understanding of LOAC, ROEs, SPINS, STARS, CDE, PID, etc:
1) Targeting, Air Force doctrine document 2-1.9 8 June 2006
2) McNeal, Gregory S., Targeted Killing and Accountability (March 5, 2014). 102 Georgetown Law Journal 681-794 (2014)
3) Joint Fire Support, Joint Publication 3-09
4) Commander’s Handbook for Joint Battle Damage Assessment, 1 June 2004
5) Major James A. Burkart (JAG), Deadly Advice: Judge Advocates and Joint Targeting, The Army Lawyer, June 2016
6) Merriam, John, Affirmative Target Identification: Operationalizing the Principle of Distinction for U.S. Warfighters (April 15, 2015).
56:1 Virginia Journal of International Law 83 (2016).
7) Corn, Geoffrey S. and Corn, Gary P., The Law of Operational Targeting: Viewing the LOAC Through an Operational Lens (August 21, 2011).
Texas International Law Journal, 2012
8) Schmitt, Michael N. and Biller, Jeffrey et al; Joint and Combined Targeting: System and Process (August 25, 2016). Weighing Lives in War (Jens Ohlin, Larry May & Claire Finkelstein eds. Oxford University Press 2017)
9) CJCS Instruction: No-Strike and the Collateral Damage Estimation Methodology, 2012
10) Targeting and the Law of War Administrative Investigations & Criminal Law Supplement
To really drive this home, I recommend the following legal textbooks and treatises on the subject:
1) Geoffrey S. Corn, Rachel E. VanLandingham et al; U.S. Military Operations
Law, Policy, and Practice, 2015
2) William H. Boothby and Michael N. Schmitt; The Law of Targeting, 2012
3) Terry D. Gill and Dieter Fleck; The Handbook of the International Law of Military Operations 2nd edition, 2016
4) William Boothby, Weapons and the Law of Armed Conflict 2nd Edition, 2016
Australia, UK, and others have almost identical approaches.
The Yakla raid was much more effective than resorting to aerial bombardment.
Might want to read _2014 DoD Report to Congress on Process for Determining Targets of Lethal or Capture Operation_
that I mentioned above - lethal strikes are only authorised when capture missions aren't possible.
Further, the stated main objective of the Yakla raid was to gather intel.
On that ground, it was a success. I hope we get through FOIA the AR 15-6 civcas investigation, and the investigation into the whole raid itself to gain more understanding.
I'd hold off any opinion on it until then.
Bring this series back, Intercept!
Right on spot like you always are Mehdi.
Wholly agree with you
Drones is not only seeds of terrorism it is the end of local rebellion against the globally powerful. It is unique in that matter in humankind history where resilience could only count on local indignation.
People are pissed at being killed by drones? Ya think!!??
Richard Trump fuck trump and his military
Do u think US don't know that?????
Or it is intentional!!!!!
دعوا که نداریم yeeeeeshhhh
Someone said among the lines of "If you want less war in the world, DON'T participate in it". It really is that simple 99% of the time.
Thanks for bringing the reality to front which no one wanna listen to.
Francis Leon no kidding, serious discussion
Drones are horrible and immoral.
"Eye in the sky" & "Good Kill" tells it all
Hey @TheIntercept I love the Blowback videos, but could you guys add the links the various articles and videos you guys cite? Thanks!
I love this guy, Mehdi Hasan you boss!
Truth Exposed
The human cycles of violence should be clearly understood by all for what it is, like dancing, it requires at least two partners. We can only break this cycle if only we can recognize in ourselves are all others and conversely all others in ourselves. Rather than saying I'm from X, Y, or Z country, or X, Y, or Z race/people/tribe/etc., how about saying, "I'm a fellow citizen of the earth, and are we not all citizens of the earth, are we not all earthlings together, sharing together a planet of limited resources? Are we not one species, and as such, should we have a higher obligation toward one another?" We are always so quick to point a finger at some "other" when in the end it's just human on human violence; though we are such a clever species that we can come up with 1001 ways to justify it (the violence) in any form.
There must be a better analogy than the dancing one, which infers that both stepped onto the dance floor voluntarily - or that both showed up to dance at all. I am reminded of the murders from helicopters caught on video and stored away from prying eyes until a copy was sent to Wikileaks. One of the team, rationalizes the firing on children as "They should know better than to bring their kids to a firefight." - Clearly a case where only one side was aware that the other side has designated that site as a "dance hall". To borrow a song line, "where you can check-out anytime you want, but you can never leave."
One part of the Dance example holds true for me. It is like the expensive Ballet, with far more of the participants (through their funding and attendance) sitting in the audience (in fancy dress, with full bellies) than on the stage - able to exit at will or whim with the slightest of effort and no resistance from the Theater Management.
It is The Destroyer's nature to harm others. Often, but not always, under some legally-crafted premise. We have been entrusted with tools to create fewer Destroyer-mentality persons (with succinct teachings like the "Do unto others" one), but have allowed such teachings to be infrequent adjuncts instead of starting points.
gojirazilla1 good words. A hero in America is a terrorist abroad, just as what we view as terrorist here in the US are heroes in their homelands. Bloodshed on both sides is absolutely useless and I find it hard to comprehend that we are still acting like Neanderthals in the 21st century.
Hello @The Intercept. At 6:27 you quote a WSJ piece dated March 2015. This date must be mistaken as, obviously, Trump didn't take office until January 2017. Was the piece from March 2017?
Sir you are always to the point...
Thanks brother
Think it already did.
So the US citizen Anwar al-Awlaki just magically found a new apartment in the Al Qaida infested part of Yemen ?
Erik Paulsen but was it necessary to kill his two children one 13 years old another 8 years old. BTW no charges were bought against alwaki. As the citizen of united states you have to be charged and be judged by your peers before one is convicted of any crime. As a US citizen alwaki never got a day in court. Becoming a judge jury and executioner of its own citizen sounds very much similar to the judicial process of a third world country which my family and I left so that we could be part of a progressive society.
At first I thought awesome, Glenn Greenwald. Then reality set in. Its Mahadi Hasan aka Aunt Sally.
I don't disagree but you're not saying anything that was being said by Lowkey in 2011 how does this move the conversation??
If some one killed my family member I would get revenge no matter what they called me. Terrorist or whatever.. let them give me whatever name. I dont care
Good show mehdi
DRONES SAVE LIVES ???
ART DECO Saves the Pocket of Company Producing Drone and the Corrupt Officials bridge the deal. 👌
And caused the migrant crisis
an d ur coutry should accept them
no it didn't. when were drones deployed in Eritrea or South Sudan?
Very sad reality 😟😢
By making it about the Muslims you don't have to acknowledge all the atrocities and injustices the U.S. government has committed.
Why would you think that? If the US could have had drones in Vietnam or Korea, the US would've used em. There's no doubt in that. It's only that the US is interested in Muslim lands and the natural resources under those lands at this point and time.
These people had the guts to say the truth of American terrorism to their judicial authorities to face to face in the major muslim nations....But i don't support the avenge and Islam too....
lol 1:06 why isn't the person's real court room persecution put up why the cartoon ???
You cant call the fight against american terrorism, terrorism anymore. Need a new word
and we (the west) wonder why we are hated around the world
You guys should do a video on George H.W. Bush's (the first Bush administration's) role in the 1991 Soviet coup d'état attempt en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt which eventually resulted in the Putin Regime and the formation of the Russian Federation as a whole...
I disagree with him on the first kid he showed, trump did that one but everything else I agree with
Why is it that Mehdi always defends Islamists?
Yah, drones suck!!! Really do. I agree. Maybe just don’t bother with the Taliban and do nothing. Just chill. Right? So you can’t find something to complain about. And just keep those lovely oppressive regimes. Those people are fine. I wonder why our video fails to mention any alternatives to drone strikes. Weird...
When Gangrene is not treated for a long period, amputation is required to save that person's life, same way to save the world, drone attacks are required...
DB do you know what: I disagree with that means?3:12
They do, even for the people who operate them from afar. These are disgusting weapons that seperate the murderer from the victim. If it feels like a video game, it wont be like the decision faced, whether by order or to survive, to kill another human
Wow and mehdi now believes in Michael Flynn’s words! Amazing slime balls this mehdi
Don't forget that Mehdi Hasan works for the dicatorship regime of Qatar.
thanks for reminding me why we need drones.
Yoav Yoav supported buy usa lol
shut up!!! islam is primitive disease who has been dreaming to take over Europe and western world for last 1000 years!!!
Zorka Kelly you are stupid