6:37 Oops, goofed up on a edit. This is what happens when youre sleep deprived and edit for 4 hours straight after work. You tend to make rookie mistake just so you can get to bed. X_X
0:44 On the part of getting 0 info with Percept, it's quite of a wet dream when the guy you percept had a Lookout on they, and 3 other towniers along side you visited they, now sudly everyone is confirm because of you + the lookout Percept + Watch is based dude
I do agree, LO + Invest is insanely strong, but that means both LO and Invest AND the TP's actually visit the TP LO. Worst case scenario: They visit Arso TP LO.
@@Flawskiii don't forget Illusionist cooking as well, hiding the cov who visited from Invest Another fun thing about Percept, you can see townies if they got enchant, I once Percepted and saw a trapper visiting
coroner is stronger claim then you think. 1. you need to know ck so only coven can fake claim it 2. tracker sees who you autopsy so can eliminate you easly. so you are wrong, the least trusth worthy claim is psy
Sheriff - The whole fucking role. I don't have much incentive to lynch NE, and I can only find 3 coven out of 4 ... provided it's a 4 coven game. Trickster - TRICKING A VIGILANTE. Vigilante - If it's a witch game in general ong. Veteran - CLAIMING TI AS VET!!! Had someone claim Psychic as Vet up to day 6 and confuse the hell out of town. Witch - Controlling a shroud into someone that visited me N1 (Happened before). I never witch into my Coven unless I'm absolutely sure it is safe. Ritualist - No "Coven Investigative" to relay information / silent town. Pirate - Pirating an SK / Town that hates pirates Jester - How painfully easy it is to win Executioner - How RNG it is to win Soul Collector - Being solo PB - How weak it is after turning Baker - How weak it is before turning
aight, time to be "this guy" and nitpick! 1:43 Don't forget Hex with book, he also survives trick. 3:30 Well, Mayor is designed to be this "burst" jf voting power to tip the scales of seeming evil maj. Granted, there are situations when you are forced to reveal to not get hanged, but still. 5:07 If you choose to witch someone onto your coven who isn't 146% confirmed TP, that's entirely on you. 5:23 Oooooh boy where do I begin with the misunderstood fella. Yes yes "it confirms a townie raaaaa" BUT. Have you considered that it siphons the visit off of the more valuable target? TP might choose to go on DW'd person instead of the target you wanna kill. TI might waste a night giving you some breathing space. And if they don't, thinking "eh, someone else can do it, I have more important stuff to do"? You get a basically functionless townie. Another case - coven sees who is immune to DW, making them a push target via deathnote. And slightly situational and in some cases disavatengeous factor - Jinx. Jinx STRIVES when people beg town visit them. Yes, they may get spotted, but hey, your coven got a double kill this night! 5:48 PM gets the book pretty late in queue, meaning there isn't much coven left, in which case you can just play silent coven and watch town implode in paranoia. You can even get confirmed as TI. 6:18 But... you've literally stated another point of Illu existence at 2:53. Countering BG/Trapper. 7:41 Well, that's with any "regular" killing role? Once people notice coven hasn't killed in a night, chat is full of "who got rb'd/jailed?" 8:36 ...ooooor make a deal with evils? They kill your current target, you set it on another who they push, then you either follow the deal or do a funny and backstab them. You're neutral EVIL after all!
Might as well comment on them myself on the new roles and roles that are different enough from the base game Oracle: Protecting a role that isn't in the game Crusader: Randomly guarding someone N1, blocking a TI from checking that person Trickster: Sending an absorbed attack at a townie Deputy: The role in general (It no longer shoots one person at day anymore, it instead camps up to 2 people and if they visit him, he shoots them) Banshee: Not coordinating with Voodoo Master Coven Leader: Morphing someone into a different role at random without them wanting their role to be changed Baker: Your breaded targets still dies even with you giving them the defensive bread Warlock: Your cursed targets not voting guilty Executioner: Having an easily confirmable town role as your target Inquisitor: Wasting your vanquish on a non-heretic Auditor: Auditing a Ritualist (they have limited rutials) Judge: Courting day 2 Starspawn: Daybreaking day 2 Jackal: Being unable to protect your recruits/Having to whisper to your recruits Cursed Soul: Swapping with a weak role I'm allowing anyone with more knowledge of this mod to correct me on this
Any N2 setback is bad for the berserker. But hitting Jailed does hit different. A huge reason why I go for targets that were jailed N1. To avoid that issue.
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6:37
Oops, goofed up on a edit.
This is what happens when youre sleep deprived and edit for 4 hours straight after work. You tend to make rookie mistake just so you can get to bed. X_X
0:44 On the part of getting 0 info with Percept, it's quite of a wet dream when the guy you percept had a Lookout on they, and 3 other towniers along side you visited they, now sudly everyone is confirm because of you + the lookout
Percept + Watch is based dude
I do agree, LO + Invest is insanely strong, but that means both LO and Invest AND the TP's actually visit the TP LO.
Worst case scenario: They visit Arso TP LO.
@@Flawskiii don't forget Illusionist cooking as well, hiding the cov who visited from Invest
Another fun thing about Percept, you can see townies if they got enchant, I once Percepted and saw a trapper visiting
Once had a game where the necromancer revived famine, killing basically everyone and winning the game because I had bread. (I was coven)
And then this video was (partially) invalidated the very next day
I had to hurry up and finish it before the patch haha
Can't wait for the balance changes tomorrow. Also witching Arso straight up sucks. It's the worst thing that always happens when I'm witch,
Its the only thing that sucks when playing Witch IMO.
It’s only outdone by ppl who open claim arso saying 2 ppl could be witch after being witched
Hey witch! How have you been?
@@Flawskiii And other thing that also sucks about witch is the terrible U.I.
Balance changes tomorrow?!
Scrolling Prosecutor has never felt more good. I can grace the town with a non-throwing, non-rng Pros!
That is extremely based.
Psychic:
This town is too evil to find anyone good.
Cleric isn’t least trustworthy! Have you heard of our good friend the Coroner?
Edit:
I also agree with the Jailord issue
coroner is stronger claim then you think.
1. you need to know ck so only coven can fake claim it
2. tracker sees who you autopsy so can eliminate you easly.
so you are wrong, the least trusth worthy claim is psy
Wow that Socalite part aged well.
Pirate: You forgot the joy of pirating an SK and not even having a readable will as a result.
Serial Killer:
Jailed N1 by the Jailor asking for TP/LO, but the Jailor gets TP and/or someone sees you're jailed
INSANELY situational.
What sucks about coroner:
CORONER
Ok but if we are being fr: being dreamweaved u cannot autopsy no night ability 💀
Tbh that goes for a lot of Town Powers too.
Majority of the time they won't let you go insane.
And hey, stop the coroner hey! >:[
@@gatimax7 Town Survivor with NO vests.
Sheriff - The whole fucking role. I don't have much incentive to lynch NE, and I can only find 3 coven out of 4 ... provided it's a 4 coven game.
Trickster - TRICKING A VIGILANTE.
Vigilante - If it's a witch game in general ong.
Veteran - CLAIMING TI AS VET!!! Had someone claim Psychic as Vet up to day 6 and confuse the hell out of town.
Witch - Controlling a shroud into someone that visited me N1 (Happened before). I never witch into my Coven unless I'm absolutely sure it is safe.
Ritualist - No "Coven Investigative" to relay information / silent town.
Pirate - Pirating an SK / Town that hates pirates
Jester - How painfully easy it is to win
Executioner - How RNG it is to win
Soul Collector - Being solo
PB - How weak it is after turning
Baker - How weak it is before turning
aight, time to be "this guy" and nitpick!
1:43 Don't forget Hex with book, he also survives trick.
3:30 Well, Mayor is designed to be this "burst" jf voting power to tip the scales of seeming evil maj. Granted, there are situations when you are forced to reveal to not get hanged, but still.
5:07 If you choose to witch someone onto your coven who isn't 146% confirmed TP, that's entirely on you.
5:23 Oooooh boy where do I begin with the misunderstood fella. Yes yes "it confirms a townie raaaaa" BUT. Have you considered that it siphons the visit off of the more valuable target? TP might choose to go on DW'd person instead of the target you wanna kill. TI might waste a night giving you some breathing space. And if they don't, thinking "eh, someone else can do it, I have more important stuff to do"? You get a basically functionless townie. Another case - coven sees who is immune to DW, making them a push target via deathnote. And slightly situational and in some cases disavatengeous factor - Jinx. Jinx STRIVES when people beg town visit them. Yes, they may get spotted, but hey, your coven got a double kill this night!
5:48 PM gets the book pretty late in queue, meaning there isn't much coven left, in which case you can just play silent coven and watch town implode in paranoia. You can even get confirmed as TI.
6:18 But... you've literally stated another point of Illu existence at 2:53. Countering BG/Trapper.
7:41 Well, that's with any "regular" killing role? Once people notice coven hasn't killed in a night, chat is full of "who got rb'd/jailed?"
8:36 ...ooooor make a deal with evils? They kill your current target, you set it on another who they push, then you either follow the deal or do a funny and backstab them. You're neutral EVIL after all!
You forgot to add retributionist to the list of roles amnesiac hates
conjurer is meant to be a counter to the TPLO meta
@@snowwielder You say that until you find out TP LO was a baiting Coroner and Tpows do TP LO D2.
Ah the Veteran with Flaw still hating Poisoner LOL
How can I not!?
Says the Veteran lover @@Flawskiii
Jinx hitting defence:
Honestly disagree about Conjurer here, 1 free kill isn’t much when you have roles like Retri or Prosecutor that are THE comeback roles
Poisoner isn't Coven Killing.
dreamweavers only w with posioner or voodoo tbh
in my honest opinion the trickster is the
Finally, the role and the meme along with it is going to die.
Of course it has to be freaking Apostle saying this XD
PROSE
Pros Day 2 be like:
BToS2 version when?
Not gonna lie, I have very little experience with BToS2 and changes happen constantly, so I'm not sure if I'm gonna make one!
Might as well comment on them myself on the new roles and roles that are different enough from the base game
Oracle: Protecting a role that isn't in the game
Crusader: Randomly guarding someone N1, blocking a TI from checking that person
Trickster: Sending an absorbed attack at a townie
Deputy: The role in general (It no longer shoots one person at day anymore, it instead camps up to 2 people and if they visit him, he shoots them)
Banshee: Not coordinating with Voodoo Master
Coven Leader: Morphing someone into a different role at random without them wanting their role to be changed
Baker: Your breaded targets still dies even with you giving them the defensive bread
Warlock: Your cursed targets not voting guilty
Executioner: Having an easily confirmable town role as your target
Inquisitor: Wasting your vanquish on a non-heretic
Auditor: Auditing a Ritualist (they have limited rutials)
Judge: Courting day 2
Starspawn: Daybreaking day 2
Jackal: Being unable to protect your recruits/Having to whisper to your recruits
Cursed Soul: Swapping with a weak role
I'm allowing anyone with more knowledge of this mod to correct me on this
the update
Ok I can agree with pretty much most of it
Also I wanted to add that hitting a jailed person also suck as the berserker
Any N2 setback is bad for the berserker.
But hitting Jailed does hit different.
A huge reason why I go for targets that were jailed N1. To avoid that issue.
I already disagree
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@@Flawskiii i will be making a response video
@@dragonunharm Do it, you won't.
@@Flawskiii you called my bluff, but now i will find time to do it out of spite
@@dragonunharm DO IT
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Honestly disagree about Conjurer here, 1 free kill isn’t much when you have roles like Retri or Prosecutor that are THE comeback roles