How to make a Compact Fire Piston

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  • @sassybumble
    @sassybumble 12 лет назад +1

    Personally, I Think Your Video is the Best and Most Detailed of any I,ve seen on makeing a Fire Piston. Thanks for showing people this Life Saveing Skill.

  • @resomaniac
    @resomaniac 11 лет назад +3

    Great video! It shows what can be done with minimal tools and creative thinking. Sometimes you have to make do with what is at hand. That is what survival is all about. I would pick this guy to be on my team any day.

  • @meadowlarklimon
    @meadowlarklimon 12 лет назад

    this is the only good video ive found on how to make one without having access to a bunch of fancy tools. It sure beats buying one. thanks for posting!

  • @scotts.2624
    @scotts.2624 11 лет назад +1

    You might try the freeze plug method. go ahead and chamfer one end of plug. Put the plug in the freezer for an hour or so. The plug will shrink several thousandths of an inch. Wearing a glove heat up the end of the pipe with a lighter. heat it right next to the freezer have a table ready. In a fluid quick motion pull the plug out of freezer set it on table sanded side up and quickly push the hot pipe down on plug. You have a fraction of a second to push. They will be locked together tight.

  • @3DPDK
    @3DPDK 11 лет назад +1

    Nice!
    Manufacturing tips:
    1: Cut enough rod for both the piston and plug. Place the intended plug end in the drill and sand. This sands the piston evenly and includes the very end of the plug. Once sanded, cut the plug away.
    2. Extra care when ramming the plug. Aluminum tube is soft and may split.
    3. Two "O" rings spaced no more than 1/8 inch apart and a touch of white grease makes better seal/higher compression/higher temp.
    4. Follow's Nick's notations for safer tooling of the parts.

  • @hayyabc
    @hayyabc 12 лет назад

    Nick, regardless of all the things you had to disclaim,I think the project showing how to accomplish your task while using tools at hand was an excellent example of ingenuity..
    Of course that is my opinion, so speaking for me, Good Job!..

  • @crazywhitedog78
    @crazywhitedog78 12 лет назад

    I thought I posted a comment on this. Great video. I actually used your method to build my own piston. Something like 20 pistons later and still having fun with them! I just finished another one tonight!

  • @RustyGunn7
    @RustyGunn7 4 года назад +1

    Nick... this is one of the best I've seen. I'd make one using your method. Cool stuff. Thank you for this tutorial.

  • @ANTONIOSALGADOCAMPINGCASTOR
    @ANTONIOSALGADOCAMPINGCASTOR 13 лет назад

    I have seen many videos about fire pistons, but is the first time that i see a explication so detail...thank you and congratulations. I suscribe to your chanel...

  • @nobby1701
    @nobby1701 12 лет назад

    I've never heard of a fire piston. But, I wiki'd it and it goes back to ancient times. Very cool. "I learned something here today". Thank you.

  • @bccritters
    @bccritters 12 лет назад

    I appreciate that you showed your mistakes, and how to fix them.

  • @67bsatroop
    @67bsatroop 12 лет назад +1

    Nicely done. I'm going to add this to our list of scout projects. Thanks!

  • @newname363
    @newname363 10 лет назад +1

    Was waiting for the annotation to pop up ... "Don't use the needle like I did" lol This is a cool video, making use of what you have to make a very useful item .. well done!

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад

    @AlexKessler99 I put char cloth in the fire piston. Friction is what causes the char cloth to ignite. When air is compressed really fast, all the air molecules collide with each other. The result is that there is a lot of friction between the molecules, and it causes the air in the fire piston to rise to an extreme temperature. The air gets hot enough to ignite the char cloth.

  • @sniperu1
    @sniperu1 12 лет назад +1

    Awesome video man! I finally found out what a fire piston was and how to make one. You did an awesome job

  • @chitown1966
    @chitown1966 12 лет назад

    Other than a few safety issues( i'm sure others have pointed them out to you) you did one hellova job. You ought to sell some of those . Again just a fantastic job. I'm very impressed.

  • @Kithkanen
    @Kithkanen 12 лет назад

    I don't know if anyone's shared this with you already, but if you need to make another fire piston, once you cut the plug to seal the end of the tube, you'll probably have an easier time fitting the plug if you put the plug in the freezer overnight. Let it sit for a day after you've hammered the plug flush to allow it to expand back to it's normal diameter, and to allow any condensation that may form to evaporate,

  • @PaulMurrayCanberra
    @PaulMurrayCanberra 11 лет назад +1

    To seal the end of tube, instead of reducing the rod, and option might be to heat the piston with a propane torch so that it expands.

  • @BigRedKer
    @BigRedKer 12 лет назад

    Really interesting video. I had to google fire piston, since I could not determine the purpose of the tool you were making, even by the end of your video. I will be making one of these in my workshop for certain. A couple of suggestions if you ever decide to remake the video: If available, use a drill press to chuck the rod into when sanding to desired thickness, and to drill the tinder hole. Also, using a block of wood to elevate the hacksaw blade to the desired height for cutting the groove.

  • @dannisan77
    @dannisan77 12 лет назад

    This is a well detailed explanation on how to make a fire piston, you inspired me to make one myself which I'm nearly finished. Just one question, is it hard to saw that solid non-hollow aluminum rod? I was thinking of using a hack saw for that job. I just need to make the plug and I may need a drill seeing that sanding down an aluminum rod would be difficult without one. With mine I'm able to burst a hole into duct tape when I try using it as a plug, that makes mine seem promising.

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад +1

    @vaxcave I bought a hammer a while back. Thanks for the advice with the file. I realize that probably wasn't the smartest thing to be doing with a file.

  • @MadSmokerBBQ
    @MadSmokerBBQ 12 лет назад

    You are a craftsman. Great process you figured out here. I'd buy one.

  • @threetime1
    @threetime1 12 лет назад

    Excellent use of tools in my opinion. That is one nice looking fire piston.

  • @morgman77
    @morgman77 12 лет назад

    Hey, great vid....one suggestion, you should cut another groove and add another O ring, the compression will greatly increase and you should get a more complete ignition of the char cloth.....hope it helps!!

  • @filtonkingswood
    @filtonkingswood 10 лет назад

    Enjoyed the whole movie. Great little project just the thing for a wet afternoon.

  • @kryptoniterxn117
    @kryptoniterxn117 11 лет назад

    yes you can, i've seen some made out of wood. real beautiful. Not sure if the inside was lined with metal or not.

  • @jmedlock95
    @jmedlock95 12 лет назад

    Pretty cool man. One thats cheap to build and reusable potentially... forever! Not cheaply made out of plastic or somesuch nonsense to crack or break after repeated use. Good job Nick!

  • @cowboyroy1961
    @cowboyroy1961 12 лет назад +1

    Excellent video!
    I'm going to try to make one, and use my drill press like a vertical lathe, to machine the parts.
    Thanks so much for the great idea!

    • @amandahahl1561
      @amandahahl1561 3 года назад

      I recorded one last Time (ariana grande cover) today can you watch it and reply to me now? 😃👍

  • @HikerJohn316
    @HikerJohn316 11 лет назад

    Excellent design and so small! Thanks for sharing. Nice safety comments - it worked for you but some are not so careful.

  • @MNDashcam
    @MNDashcam 11 лет назад

    Very clever though. You could mill a lot of things from aluminum with a drill if you really had to.

  • @BTC_DNA
    @BTC_DNA 10 лет назад

    Nicely done! Very ingenious and practical. Good tip on the fix by using the tape.

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад

    @mach352 Thanks for the advice. I think silicon caulk would work slightly better than nail polish. It is more rubbery, and wouldn't be so stiff. Thanks!

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  11 лет назад

    use a pin or needle, or even the tip of your knife to transfer the ember to your tinder bundle.

  • @KLD2929
    @KLD2929 13 лет назад

    I think I am going to try that little project. I have always wanted one of those but didn't want to pay the horrendous price for one.

  • @redbeard1066
    @redbeard1066 12 лет назад

    Very cool. Thanks for posting. Have you tried starting with a rod and tube the will slide together?

  • @airmojo
    @airmojo 11 лет назад

    Yes... but I would probably try to find a thicker o-ring... or be very careful not to go too far with the groove... but things can go wrong, and tinkers have to tinker more !
    Looks like a fun little project... probably would help to have a work bench, vice, drill press... the ultimate man-cave!

  • @Rudidly
    @Rudidly 12 лет назад

    Good vid bro, you really covered the bases. Just be careful smackin stuff with a file, their hardening process makes them strong but extremely brittle.

  • @mach352
    @mach352 12 лет назад

    This is a really well done vidio! and anouther way i've heard of fixing a o ring grove that is to deep is to just put some cheap nail polish in the groove, i couldn't get tape to work but i geuse you did.

  • @Thesterness
    @Thesterness 11 лет назад

    What's the best way to transfer the ember to the tinder? Is it best to put the tinder nest on top of the ember while it's still in the piston, or try to knock the ember into the tinder nest?
    Also, great vid!

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  13 лет назад

    @DarxusC I have no problems with o-rings and durability. Let me know how that works out for you.
    I imagine it would be really hard to get a tight enough seal without an o-ring. Good luck,

  • @zachkcarp7272
    @zachkcarp7272 12 лет назад

    this video was very informative and help ful when i was making my own thanks
    i just have one question could you substitue the o-ring for something else?

  • @mryellow123
    @mryellow123 13 лет назад

    @DarxusC Think the main reason for o-ring rather then close tolerances is that you can remove or tweak them so the piston can be pushed in for storage without compression.

  • @ypsifrog
    @ypsifrog 12 лет назад

    Wow, thats was truly incredible, (with your lack of tools, work area, & limited skill) You still managed to make a first rate piston. well done!

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад

    You can start a fire with it. It is good because you can use things found in nature to start fires, like tinder fungus, punk wood, etc. A lighter can break, or run out of fuel. A fire piston can start a fire and won't ever run out of fuel.

  • @RasAhmose
    @RasAhmose 10 лет назад +1

    well done, thanks bro.
    Loved your method of sanding down the center rod! :D

  • @SCScott2002
    @SCScott2002 11 лет назад +2

    Great job. I'm a machinist, but I love the minimalist approach. Yeah, you did everything wrong as far as safety, but I've seen professionals do FAR worse. Rad project. I'm gonna make one. Thanks.

  • @358trucking
    @358trucking 2 года назад

    A FIRE PISTON ignition is the same principle that a Diesel engine ignites fuel with. Great video! 😀👍

  • @brainsovereasy
    @brainsovereasy 11 лет назад +7

    I wonder how many of the safety experts here have actually accomplished a tenth of what you did. So many do-nothing critics.

    • @amandahahl1561
      @amandahahl1561 3 года назад

      I recorded one last Time (ariana grande cover) today can you watch it and reply to me now? 😃👍

  • @carlyoshizumi831
    @carlyoshizumi831 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video.
    Even you made a mistake.
    You showed how to fix it.
    So it was not a mistake it was
    Another lesson .

  • @MarijnKonings
    @MarijnKonings 12 лет назад

    To make char cloth get a small container and drill a small hole on the top. And lay something like 100% cotton inside or 100% linen inside, the size doesn't really matter just make sure it's not too small as it will shrink. Then heat it in a fire or something, smoke will come out of the hole eventualy, and as soon as the smoke is gone take it out. It's really easy, and the stuff works great.

  • @armedandready72
    @armedandready72 12 лет назад

    Little suggestion from other vids I've watched. Use char chord instead of char cloth. Get 100% cotton clothes line from the dollar store. Cool it up in an Altoids can. Heat it with Sterno or something till its charred. Works much better and makes enough to last years. Hope this helps.

  • @BigTVideos
    @BigTVideos 5 лет назад

    Dude it would be really helpful if you put outside dimensions and inside dimensions along with parts list in your description. This is an awesome starter I would encourage you to be more specific.

  • @beefstew78
    @beefstew78 11 лет назад

    i totally agree it is pretty awesome more novelty then anything relay, but a bic lighter could last months especially if your using it sparingly, and you can bu a whole pack of lighters for half the price of the materials to make the piston

  • @MrFatist
    @MrFatist 11 лет назад

    Hey to fix the compression problem you can just cut a second groove for another o ring.thanks for the tutorial, helped me to save 200 dollars.

  • @keith90102
    @keith90102 11 лет назад

    That's a cool design. I always see them like 12-15" long.

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад

    @LLuE88 Sorry, I don't remember what size the o rings were. I just took the aluminum rod over to the o rings and matched them up with each other. I found an o ring that was about the same size as the rod, and I made sure it would be small enough to fit in to the hollow cylinder.

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад

    @WARLORDVONDOOM Probably not. In my experience, you have to air dry wet char cloth, or else it won't ignite. I have tried to ignite slightly damp char cloth, and have never had success, no matter how many times I compress it.

  • @dantheman167
    @dantheman167 13 лет назад

    good video kid... ive been thinking of making one for a while and your video is well detailed. so i should have a decent little aluminum fire pistion by the end of today.

  • @HesintheTaNaK
    @HesintheTaNaK 12 лет назад

    Hey I went out and made one of these.The rod fit inside without sanding, perfect less work! got the "O" ring to fit drilled my indent and tried it...... I'm having trouble getting it to ignite char cloth any suggestions? Thanks again for a clear video.

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад

    @dannisan77 It takes a little effort to cut through the solid rod. If you have a dremmel or some other power tool it might be a little easier. It took me about ten minutes to cut through the solid rod, but that was probably because I didn't have my hack saw handy. I was just holding the blade. (could be dangerous)

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад

    @cougarbahia Nova Scotia? Wow, how much would shipping be from Arizona to Nova Scotia? I would charge about $10 USD plus whatever shipping would be... But unfortunately, I don't have any extra time to make fire pistons right now. I am a full time student and I also work full time.

  • @omarklin
    @omarklin 12 лет назад

    this video are awesome. i have a question, where did you find the o rings? can you find those at the home depot? and whats the size? thank you

  • @gechpi
    @gechpi 11 лет назад

    im sure when you were at homedepo you should have decided to get a proper pick set to get the o ring off and a proper lath to sand the rod down

  • @jniks2643
    @jniks2643 11 лет назад

    Thought the VIDEO was AWESOME! great little tutorial... and Yes I agree that the drill thing was stupid as hell, and no one else should do that... But you did say that in the comments and then added it to the video. Thanks for the solid vid, I really appreciate it!

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  11 лет назад

    I never said this was the best survival tool. This video was made to show those who are already interested in fire pistons how to make one. If you make a fire piston right now, and then put it in your survival kit, then you can use punk wood, or tinder fungus that you find in the bush. You don't need to use char cloth. A fire piston will never run out like lighter or matches.

  • @Youngbushcrafters
    @Youngbushcrafters 12 лет назад

    For all the people saying you were using all the wrong tools fuck them! You improvised and overcame and that alone is awesome! Not only that but you actually made a 100% working fire piston! Keep it up dude!

  • @DarxusC
    @DarxusC 13 лет назад

    Nice, I've been wondering how hard it would be to make something very similarly without the O-ring, so it's more durable. Just sand the piston down to a more snug fit in the cylinder.

    • @amandahahl1561
      @amandahahl1561 3 года назад

      I recorded one last Time (ariana grande cover) today can you watch it and reply to me now please?

  • @beefstew78
    @beefstew78 11 лет назад

    its really cool how it works and all but instead of going through all that work buying the rods and tools. why wouldn't i just bring a lighter/matches. you can say it can get wet but so can the char cloth. your not going to have those tools and materials in a survival situation and if you did why wouldn't bring a lighter or matches to begin with and save yourself some time??? just a question

  • @klj2503
    @klj2503 12 лет назад

    Hey ... I have the exacte same problem - I think its due to the fact that the rod does not create a tight eneough seel , though the O ring should do it - I have a double O ring on mine but I still have problems.... sigh...! If you figure it out - Let me know, ok ?

  • @HesintheTaNaK
    @HesintheTaNaK 12 лет назад

    Hey Dude great vid I like the way you improvised with your tools many times in my life I needed a tool and just improvised. This day and age kids wear helmets to play in the backyard, we need a little danger :-)

  • @TheMaximumLikelihood
    @TheMaximumLikelihood 13 лет назад

    You gave me just a task for my christmas holidays :)

  • @daisy8luke
    @daisy8luke 12 лет назад

    That was way cool, brother. Now I gotta go make one.

  • @chunky141996
    @chunky141996 11 лет назад

    great video. Done really well on the fire piston !!!!

  • @NOBOX7
    @NOBOX7 10 лет назад

    i am amazed this worked with aluminum

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  13 лет назад

    @sunderwood52 First off, I myself have never been able to get cotton to work in a fire piston, it will just blacken and smell burned, but no coal. It does take some practice to be able to get it to work with char cloth. The first time I made a fire piston, I thought it must have been a dud, cause I couldn't get it to work at all. Turns out, I just needed to practice using it. You almost have to put your whole body weight into it and push it into the ground to get it to work.

  • @tazscro
    @tazscro 11 лет назад

    Where are you located. Your apartment lot looks familiar. Cool vid to man.

  • @rabbitassassinator
    @rabbitassassinator 12 лет назад

    Good video defently going to try this an it's good that you show how to fix mistakes

  • @zingodingo2816
    @zingodingo2816 3 года назад

    Every piston has at least two opportunities to create a good O-ring groove...two ends. If you wait until you get the groove just right before you cut the rod length you have nearly unlimited opportunities to get the groove right. When it's just right, cut the rod to length.

  • @jeremynorth
    @jeremynorth 12 лет назад

    Fiddly but very effective. Love it.

  • @TheShatzmo
    @TheShatzmo 11 лет назад

    Hows your Finger after putting it on top of the Tinder at 11:56? I even saw a little smoke from the burning of your finger, lol. Great vid though.

  • @HikerJohn316
    @HikerJohn316 11 лет назад

    Keep trying. Longer works better. They are also sold in some science supply companies. I worked on a plastic one that didn't work so I understand the frustration.

  • @HeavilyArmed
    @HeavilyArmed 11 лет назад

    Great video man. I'll be trying this on the weekend.

  • @sassybumble
    @sassybumble 12 лет назад

    Would Aluminum or Carbon Fiber Arrow Shafts work also ? You can get these anywhere they sell Bowhunting equip. i Think some are Hollow.

  • @RICKYAWSOME
    @RICKYAWSOME 12 лет назад

    thank you I've been looking to make one of these and this is the easiest thanks

  • @sncounts
    @sncounts 11 лет назад

    Dude this is a great video. I'm going to make one this weekend! Thanks!

  • @willmcdonald476
    @willmcdonald476 11 лет назад

    Try this. Get some safety goggles and leather gloves, take a D shaped file like that, and try to break it. If you manage to get it done with anything like TWICE the amount of force he was using, you might begin to have a point. (pardon the pun) I also notice that in 06:30 or so, the drill is pulling the saw teeth instead of pushing: If there's a catch, it will pull the saw through your hand the wrong way to do much cutting. Pretty clever, actually!

  • @Levistarks
    @Levistarks 12 лет назад

    Nice video,
    Don't apologize for your tools or technique. You did fine. If you have access to a good local "not for profit" technical college, then I would say you would do well to take their precision machine tool classes. You would do well as a tool and die maker. (my trade)

  • @Ntwadumela1
    @Ntwadumela1 3 года назад

    I'd buy a few O-rings with different sizes and try to match an O-ring with the groove not the other way around.

  • @36742650885
    @36742650885 12 лет назад

    COOL!!! im gonna make one, wish i still had a metal lathe would make it easier

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад

    It is a Gerber Paraframe.

  • @MrRECONGAMES
    @MrRECONGAMES 11 лет назад

    how does this work mind blown

  • @NickVanLeuven
    @NickVanLeuven  12 лет назад +1

    @TheDylanMetz I live in Arizona. I was living in an apartment when I filmed this. I'm probably not going to have any time to make fire pistons for other people right now. Sorry.

  • @MNDashcam
    @MNDashcam 11 лет назад

    Just cut another groove next to it. There, compression problem fixed.

  • @armedandready72
    @armedandready72 12 лет назад

    Cool stuff. Never seen that done before.

  • @quiwielque
    @quiwielque 2 года назад

    How much time does it take to sand the rod?

  • @rchristian109
    @rchristian109 11 лет назад

    Well for next time here is a little trick for getting the o-ring off without any tools. You grasp the o-ring on both sides and pinch upwards, when you do this it will form a little bubble or hoop at the top and you can just roll it off with your other hand.

  • @Oniontears123TNG
    @Oniontears123TNG 12 лет назад

    Actually, heat IS particle movement. The compression of the air has a higher ratio of movement to volume, creating a higher temperature. You end up having the same amount of thermal energy in a smaller volume.

  • @TheCerberusInferno
    @TheCerberusInferno 12 лет назад

    You're great man this video is very educative !!

  • @charleswaite1958
    @charleswaite1958 11 лет назад

    You just blew my mind, sir

  • @MyRadDesign
    @MyRadDesign 11 лет назад

    Do you have any videos on first aid? A rock would have been better than using the file,as a hammer, for instance. Files are brittle, and when they break they are quite sharp. Also, holding the hacksaw blade the way you were risks a very nasty cut if the blade catches in the work. Great idea for the product, but bad example on how to use simple tools.