Workers rights in the US are mind boggling. Where I live you get 5 weeks paid vacation, free healthcare, paid maternity leave, no limit on sick days and usually two months notice before being fired.
It makes the economy more productive, people buy and spend more because they aren't all living in poverty like in the US (which is largely regarded as a poor country where I am from). P.S it s not done through tax, it is done through regulation.
90nomads I lived and worked in Europe and I still got my health insurance through my employer just like the US. While I had more vacation days, I had to use a lot of them to take care of household chores. You can’t get an oil change at a quick oil change place in the evening or on the weekends. You have to have that work done during a work day. Or, you have to build a closet in your bedroom during a work day because it’s not allowed during Sunday. Plus, the fact that you have to build a closet because it doesn’t come included with the apartment. Then you are encouraged to work after hours at home “off the books”. So, I didn’t see much advantage.
Oh yeah?? So imagine how you will pay your bills with 1/5 less money coming on your paycheck. Your employer will not pay you more and put pressure on the staff to work harder because they won’t hire more people.
@@jackthepirate9233 You're missing the point. There are tons of studies that show that employees aren't even productive the full 8 hours they are at the office. Since posting this comment I started working from home because of the pandemic. I work like 25-30 hours a week now and get just as much done as when I was in the office for 40 hours a week. I get that this can't work for all jobs, but it can definitely work for office jobs. Technology has made us WAY more productive anyway, but the number of hours worked hasn't gone down.
@@young9534 not all types of job are suitable for this though, many jobs require staff all the time, such as customer service, teaching, any job dealing with people directly actually; it's not feasible for employers to hire more staff to cover those hours that are left from the other employees working less; this 40 hours a week is NOT based on productivity but on investment/yield; in other words, the employers would be at a loss if they hired more people to work less than that.
@@young9534 - Jack the pirate's comment IS the point. No business owner or manager would object if he got 32-hours worth of effort in four days but most contemporary American workers can't (actually won't) do that. Also, your definition of "productive" doesn't match that of most managers, meaning that in any organization a few dedicated workers finish or complete what the majority of their fellow workers fail to accomplish ... it's what keeps a business functioning. Since workers will only accomplish four days work in four days, the proposal is nothing more than another socialist redistribution sop for the workers (encouraging them to support democrats and the government) or a business-killing scheme to damage those businesses that operate on 3% profit margin (retail, groceries, most restaurants, etc.). Tech-based businesses will be fine, as will those that service the government (i.e., paid by taxpayers) and of course the government itself. Honestly, if they really wanted to change the American workforce, they'd (1) eliminate the minimum wage and enforce standards so that workers EARN a commensurate salary, (2) reduce burdensome regulations and allow businesses to flourish, and (3) reduce taxes on businesses and individuals (Note that #2 would promote #3). Personally, I don't think that will be an option until the socialism-biased government collapses, then again it might never be an option for those of us living because the next phase is more likely tyranny -- COVID lockdowns and vaccine mandates fostering tainted elections were only the beginning. Finally, consider one simple fact: Democrats, socialists, liberals and progressives demanded a $15 minimum wage to "begin" solving the income crisis ... it has failed miserably. Could that failure be the reason why they now propose reducing work hours while denying the employers the option to adjust compensation proportionally?
i appreciate the progress but still it is unsatisfactory and i consider the new 32 hour workweek no different than the 40 hour workweek. Full time work is organically 4 hours day and this is healthy for the mind, body and soul. But not just for the human being but for the earth to heal from rapid climate change ie global pollution. 4 hours a day is natural and cohesive
my boss is always off on Fridays, but cannot get on board for a 4 day week for anyone else. What I do is based on a daily schedule, so it doesn't 'roll' over to another day if I am not there. We typically have someone off for Vacation, sick leave, etc pretty much on a regular basis, so I do not understand why we cannot do this. I have decided to spread out my vacation days to one day each week for as long as I have the PTO. It's really no different than taking two weeks off, I am just spreading it out, not getting burned out. So far its going well. I am getting paid for the day off, but my hope is that soon our company will see that this trend is growing and start having a conversation about it. If it's not their Idea, they really do not want to talk about it!! I should also add that I am financially situated that a day off with no pay would not be a hardship. The hardship is getting to the weekend and being so exhausted that I do NOTHING but rest and wait for the week to start all over. VERY SAD WAY TO LIVE.
"We are fortunate to live in a period of human history where its possible to work less." Fuck yes! There's no magic number of hours worked that equates to productivity. We are capable of accomplishing a lot more in less amount of time, that is an indicator of human progress.
My company has been on a six day work schedule for the past three months with no end in sight. We sometimes work 13 to 14 hours a day. It's absolutely soul crushing. My one day off is spent doing errands I didn't have time to do during the rest of the week.....not to mention most of that OT goes to taxes anyway. The four day work week is a pipe dream for most here in the United States, unfortunately.
yeah I don't have a problem with people putting in extra time into their job but I've never understood how a lot of companies can have a six week schedule where Sunday might also be a work day (like hormel). And for some people their job really becomes a big part of their life in that sense but for some if not most it is a soul crusher.
Work will always be there but not necessarily family. Go outdoors, spend more time with family and friends. Mental health is just as important as physical health. So live it up.
I work 40 hours flat. I refuse to work any more than that. I go home and try to relax but my family has needs. So I don't really rest. Then I spend my weekends making up to my wife and kids for not being there during the week. Guess who I never have time for? Me.
I love the idea of only working 32 hours a week. The problem is when hourly wages stay the same, and I lose 20% of my income. Now if wages would increase by 20%, a 32 hour work week would be great. But I wouldn't bet on it.
How would we all get anything done? The claim to this is people working 4 days are more productive so saying they do 5 days worth of work in 4 days? This is nonsense because if you're losing a whole days work every 5 days then you're obviously bone idle at work. And think about people who work hard, you can't cut hair faster, you can't do operations faster, drive hgv faster. And with working one day less Where's all the skilled workers going to come from to cover that lost day? Suddenly there's a shortage of every single low to high skilled job. All these trials are showing us is people in offices do fk all, all day apparently. So maybe other lines of work will work like office workers do today? Next time you get your haircut, two barbers will decide to stop mid cut and have a 15 min chat with each other. Then they can add up to a whole day loss of work too
I work in both a physically demanding space and an intellectual space. I've found moving between those spaces helps my creativity. I've also found its critical to find ways to recharge creative energy so that when you are at the keyboard or producing something that involves analytical thinking and creative production. Sitting in front of your screen burnt out trying to push out an idea that isn't fully baked yet isn't productive. It is also unfulfilling and can put you in a negative space, creating further mental friction. Less hours does not always mean, less production, particularly when quality of that production is key to the success of what you are doing.
32-Hour Workweek..... EEEEEE PLZ! AMAZING! Working class citizens work so so SO much, it absorbs way too much of their lives. They deserve to live a little more of it~
Millions of American work a 32-hour workweek. What's different about this is getting a living wage and benefits for it -and not having to be on call all the time.
This is beautiful. I will adopt this practice for my future companies. Also, it's a bit pathetic that we (America) can't offer proper maternity/paternity leave and other simple things like that. I used to work for an asshole company and now I don't. One of the many benefits of the world these days.
Nah - working smart doesn't pay off if the contract says "work for 8 hours"! You can't leave earlier and at worst they'll shovel some stupid, un-needed, mindless busy work your way because it makes them look bad if you are napping at work because you are done early!
there seem to be a number of Atlantic articles in a row discussing universal income, and how to re-envision work. I agree...there’s a huge case for a 30-hr work week. I don’t really feel like people try that hard on Friday anyhow. Critics will complain of course that Thursday will become the new Friday. hogwash. 6-hr workdays should be the norm, relieving the pressure of errands and workouts, and leave anything extra as optional for evening hours or weekends if there’s occasional crunch periods.
Good jobs are becoming too scarce as automation gets more advanced and population grows along with it. Human beings have become a victim of their own success, but that's only a certain perception. It could be argued that the only jobs that are "useful" are those that are necessary for subsistence, such as farming which were mostly done away with once tractors were invented. Centuries ago when monarchies were a thing, people toiled the fields and the nobles had all the free time. With this free time, some of them just goofed around, but some others invested that time into some "hobbies", dabbling in astronomy, literature, mathematics, science, philosophy and etc. These "hobbies" weren't "useful" as they didn't produce anything of immediate value, but it can't be denied that modern society would not be possible without people with too much free time pursuing these "hobbies". "Free time" is a resource that allows society to evolve as people are free to invest in things outside immediate survival.
I would be so much happier and more productive if I weren't stewing in perpetual rage and resentment from not getting enough time off and enough time at home.
People in Europe, who are extremely productive (just look at GDP outside of the 2008 financial crisis and covid), work alot less than Americans. We look at North America with sympathy and definitely not envy. Paid annual leave is also extremely different in America. No idea why it's developed this way especially over last 40 years. I now work 9 hours for 4 days, extremely flexible setup, in what is a normal non-tech, employed role. Work life balance is essential to family wellbeing, individual health, and staff retention. Something needs to change.
That's nice a 9 hour working day, but that's already normal here as we don't get paid breaks. So unlike lots of office workers who work 9-5, we work 8-5. 5 hours more at work every week for same total hours worked
It depends upon how much is salary is. By working 32 hours a week, it could be more productive being on salary. If you focus upon being paid per hour, it is inevitable that employees will have to work more hours to make a sufficient income.
@@micahlarkins9963 In regards to productivity, it depends upon what type of job. A lot of White collar jobs, do not require a lot of hours to do the necessary tasks required. It's common to see a lot of hours wasted. However, in some blue collar jobs, such as truck-driving, reduced hours isn't feasible.
The TEDx videos talk plenty of sense in terms of 4 day 32 hours workibh week being a proper work life balance. Jermey Corbyn wants to see a 4 day 32 working hours. Sadly over 43% voted for a fsr right party in December who wsny force emoloyeee working into the ground working even longer hours than at present and at he same time them losing modt of their employment right in the process. 56.6% rejected the far right tories in the election but we are stuck with them anyway.
'cause people are brainwashed into believing that the left is crazy and all lefties are communists who want to ban private property etc. (there are some, but most simply aren't and just want to give the average Joe a seat at the table, not just some crumbs they then have to fight over as well!)
To anyone out there that thinks the economy will collapse if this happens, that’s simply not true. Businesses adjust to regulatory change and there’s nothing magic about working five out of every seven days.
The soviet union had 50% of meaningless BS jobs. Those jobs could work zero days per week and not affect gdp. We are at 25% BS jobs right now. It does make sense to cut the work hours to match. except when the jobs are important, cutting their hours doens't make sense.
Aaaaaand they stopped it. "Ryan Carson, founder and CEO of the programming-education company Treehouse, created a 32-hour, four-day workweek for his employees. But now he's switched back to a typical five-day workweek. "It created this lack of work ethic in me that was fundamentally detrimental," he explained."
I work a 32 hour work week... its bullshit. I usually end up working 40 or more by covering open shifts anyway. Also the cost of living has consistently increased over time while wages stay the same. Who can afford to work 8 hours less, when u are charged more for the basic necessities than generations before you?
Good luck with that, companies will just move to conservative states, get a huge tax break and beggin hammering away, Im sure people from luisiana, tennesee or georgia would jump and replace these people, they are desperate out here 🤷♂️
think not in Alabama we have jobs out the yin yang but in some parts of the state we have unemployment in the double digits why is easy the jobs that are available for these people is unworkable think 12 hour days 5 days out of the week or more and if you call in sick 3 days in a row you get fired and the pay is barely enough for a one-bedroom apartment. no one but the mentally ill or desperate would go to these jobs. so in short a lot of people are out of work by choice all they want is a 40 hour work week time to live there life on there terms away from work what could be so wrong with that its a problem but I think someone is lining their pockets instead of solving the problem. if your married you'll have a divorce. if you have kids you won't see them grow up. all in all its not living. it's legalized slavery
I would love to have the four-day work week but we all know and most of all work places there are a few people who do not carry their weight and they're the ones that do carry their and the other ones. If we do this this is double work for the ones who carry the way anymore and when we lose that day of pay because 85% of us are paycheck to paycheck as it is this would put us in the hole deeper than trying to see the light distance. This word do more harm to us than good financially
32 hours. That's 6 hours less. Not even a full day. The people make it sound like they are changing the world. Are the workers still getting breaks, lunches? If you eliminated breaks, which are a requirement in some states and not a requirement in others. Then you could save time that way but people are still coming in 5 days a week. When you have to go into work that whole day is ruined. Even if you are there for a few hours. Your mental clarity is focused on that. Not your life. The ideal is to have more free days than work days a week.
Agree. The only advantage of a half day on Friday is by then I'm exhausted and have mentally checked out unless it is something new or some crisis that I'm working on.
So the upper class should work less and the lower classes should work more? What if you have a minimum wage job? How can you survive on only 32 hours of work per week? Some even need to work 2 or 3 jobs to get by these days.
Exactly and the reason nobody can take a vacation and has to work more is because wages have not kept up with inflation. The dollar is worth much less than it was in 1979. These beta-male neckbeards put a high value on their existence but if you wiped out all of their jobs it wouldn't effect the economy at all.
The idea is that their total income should stay the same (because productivity per hour goes down when people are miserable and overworked), but with 32 hours instead of 40 (or whatever number they are currently working).
Mandatory living-wage! No job can pay less than what is needed to live a decent life! "But we can't afford that" - Bullcrap! People like Bezos and others like him could lose a few billion to finance this..."But they will leave for other countries" - not if this is implemented everywhere!
I do 60-70 hours a week. Some jobs really need time. Especially physical things like moving pallets in a ware house or construction. This short work week makes sense for some industries but itsnt feasible for alot
Actually a shorter week probably would benefit those fields as well. There is an increased accident and illness rate with working over 12 hours a day or 60 hours a week. www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2005/08/18/58572.htm
wait till shrub apartments come in offering the same thing for 20 bucks a month working 60+ hrs a week and see if he still feels the same way. I'm looking at you china! Let's say we have company A , and company B with 50 workers each in the same field competing. Company A - 32 hrs a week company b 40 hrs a week that is a 400 hour difference for innovation development and general business management to your competition per week!
I like the idea of the 32-hour workweek but how sad to not believe in heaven. I couldn't imagine thinking that with how awful this world can be that this is all there is. We all have a void in our soul that longs for the Lord, you just have to call on Him.
Everyone has a yearning to know where we came from, why we're here, and where we are going when we die. It's the correct answer to those questions that lead us to the Lord. You are right about this life being amazing, but the things in this life are just a glimpse of what God has in store for those who believe in him wholeheartedly. Thank you for your response.
so because this world is awful you are inclined to believe in heaven? that just sounds like you're weak minded and move to the easier solution. If u had the same faith in humanity as u do in god YOU could make a difference instead of just waiting till the next life. do you need to be fearful of not going to heaven to be a good person? or could u just be compassionate towards others and have morals that get u through life happy without being judged for all ur actions afterward. i dont get religion
As I said in my other reply, there are many things that lead us to God, but yes the world being awful or cursed, as the Bible states it, is definitely a good reason to want to seek out God and/or if heaven is real, yes. It's interesting that you think it makes me weak minded and that believing that an all-knowing, all-powerful God exist that created us and everything. To me, it is obvious our entire world and everything around us were created specifically for us. You are right though, it is the easier solution. I mean, once you realize that Jesus really does exist and died for our sins and was used by God to create the world, everything falls into place. For example, where did we come from? He made us. Why are we here? He created us to live in a perfect world with him forever, but it was all ruined when Adam and Even chose to sin so Jesus had to die to pay for our sins and theirs. Where do we go when we die? It depends on whether you've asked God to forgive you for all of your sins and to save you from hell. If I put my faith in humanity, humanity would have already and has already failed me time and time again. Without God, nothing we do here has a purpose. It is only the things that we do for Him that matter. That's a great question about being fearful! The answer is no, not now that I've asked and received forgiveness from God and know, without a doubt, that I am going to heaven when I die. However, you are right, the 2 things are related. You see, good is defined by God and His word says that there are none that do good. Without God, there is no true and definite definition of things like "good" or "morals". The judgement will definitely not be fun, but it is for a short time and well worth heaven and being in the presence of God for all eternity versus hell.
god sounds selfish, we are here just to pledge our lives to him in hopes of a better life in heaven? if god really loves us ALL then why banish people to hell to suffer, but what is hell anyway? endless torture? but anyway we do have theories of where we came from, yes theyre just theories that have yet to be proven but when does humanity ever accept new scientific theories it takes time, and we know a lot more then we did 200 years ago. we know there are planets similar to ours in the universe that could support life. i would say there has to be some sort of other life out there and im s ure they arnt christians, heck christianity is 1 out of so many other religions how do u know u picked the right one? every thing revolves around faith, i personally rely on reason
Math, math, math. Come on... THINK! 32 hour work week will mean people will lose money. Be forced to adjust their quality of life or get another job. This is utterly foolish. 4x 10 hour days is the only thing worth attempting. Would also open up 3x 10 hour days for part time which helps lots of people working part time. You have to keep it equal or greater or people will miss out.
Want math? (productivity per hour)*(hours)=(total productivity) The productivity per hour isn't a fixed constant. There are diminishing returns of working longer hours. Otherwise, your "math" solution leads to the obvious answer of a 168 hour work week.
If facts disagree with your worldview, do you get angry, or do you change your worldview? www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190912-what-wartime-munitionettes-can-teach-us-about-burnout
Bullshit - productivity in most cases will not sink, because frankly: Most people spend only 4 hours (many even less!) truly working in an 8 hour day! You chat with this co-worker, you chat with that co-worker, you take a (smoking) break (if you are a smoker), you get yourself several cups of coffee, you take a lot leaks because of the coffee (or whatever else you are drinking), you are interrupted by noise, you are pretending to be working while being on social media etc. etc. - so reducing the actual time spent at the office is a good idea! A lot of start-ups test this and keep it, hell Microsoft Japan (Japan is the industrialized nation with the most working hours, the least holidays and the most work related suicides!) has a 4 day work-week now! They tested it and they are sticking with it!
This is so rare in the USA, the 32 hour workweek is like a fantasy for most people here.
Still fucked. 6 years later.
Workers rights in the US are mind boggling. Where I live you get 5 weeks paid vacation, free healthcare, paid maternity leave, no limit on sick days and usually two months notice before being fired.
It makes the economy more productive, people buy and spend more because they aren't all living in poverty like in the US (which is largely regarded as a poor country where I am from). P.S it s not done through tax, it is done through regulation.
90nomads I lived and worked in Europe and I still got my health insurance through my employer just like the US. While I had more vacation days, I had to use a lot of them to take care of household chores. You can’t get an oil change at a quick oil change place in the evening or on the weekends. You have to have that work done during a work day. Or, you have to build a closet in your bedroom during a work day because it’s not allowed during Sunday. Plus, the fact that you have to build a closet because it doesn’t come included with the apartment. Then you are encouraged to work after hours at home “off the books”. So, I didn’t see much advantage.
@@bdfunke did you live in Germany?
@@90nomads where are you from?
Even your rights don't sound that great
32 should be the standard. We would all be so much happier.
Oh yeah?? So imagine how you will pay your bills with 1/5 less money coming on your paycheck. Your employer will not pay you more and put pressure on the staff to work harder because they won’t hire more people.
@@jackthepirate9233 You're missing the point. There are tons of studies that show that employees aren't even productive the full 8 hours they are at the office. Since posting this comment I started working from home because of the pandemic. I work like 25-30 hours a week now and get just as much done as when I was in the office for 40 hours a week. I get that this can't work for all jobs, but it can definitely work for office jobs. Technology has made us WAY more productive anyway, but the number of hours worked hasn't gone down.
@@young9534 not all types of job are suitable for this though, many jobs require staff all the time, such as customer service, teaching, any job dealing with people directly actually; it's not feasible for employers to hire more staff to cover those hours that are left from the other employees working less; this 40 hours a week is NOT based on productivity but on investment/yield; in other words, the employers would be at a loss if they hired more people to work less than that.
@@young9534 - Jack the pirate's comment IS the point. No business owner or manager would object if he got 32-hours worth of effort in four days but most contemporary American workers can't (actually won't) do that. Also, your definition of "productive" doesn't match that of most managers, meaning that in any organization a few dedicated workers finish or complete what the majority of their fellow workers fail to accomplish ... it's what keeps a business functioning. Since workers will only accomplish four days work in four days, the proposal is nothing more than another socialist redistribution sop for the workers (encouraging them to support democrats and the government) or a business-killing scheme to damage those businesses that operate on 3% profit margin (retail, groceries, most restaurants, etc.). Tech-based businesses will be fine, as will those that service the government (i.e., paid by taxpayers) and of course the government itself. Honestly, if they really wanted to change the American workforce, they'd (1) eliminate the minimum wage and enforce standards so that workers EARN a commensurate salary, (2) reduce burdensome regulations and allow businesses to flourish, and (3) reduce taxes on businesses and individuals (Note that #2 would promote #3). Personally, I don't think that will be an option until the socialism-biased government collapses, then again it might never be an option for those of us living because the next phase is more likely tyranny -- COVID lockdowns and vaccine mandates fostering tainted elections were only the beginning. Finally, consider one simple fact: Democrats, socialists, liberals and progressives demanded a $15 minimum wage to "begin" solving the income crisis ... it has failed miserably. Could that failure be the reason why they now propose reducing work hours while denying the employers the option to adjust compensation proportionally?
i appreciate the progress but still it is unsatisfactory and i consider the new 32 hour workweek no different than the 40 hour workweek. Full time work is organically 4 hours day and this is healthy for the mind, body and soul. But not just for the human being but for the earth to heal from rapid climate change ie global pollution. 4 hours a day is natural and cohesive
This is so true, I think that I can usually do what I do in about 4-6 hours, but instead I drag it out, because I have to.
my boss is always off on Fridays, but cannot get on board for a 4 day week for anyone else. What I do is based on a daily schedule, so it doesn't 'roll' over to another day if I am not there. We typically have someone off for Vacation, sick leave, etc pretty much on a regular basis, so I do not understand why we cannot do this. I have decided to spread out my vacation days to one day each week for as long as I have the PTO. It's really no different than taking two weeks off, I am just spreading it out, not getting burned out. So far its going well. I am getting paid for the day off, but my hope is that soon our company will see that this trend is growing and start having a conversation about it. If it's not their Idea, they really do not want to talk about it!! I should also add that I am financially situated that a day off with no pay would not be a hardship. The hardship is getting to the weekend and being so exhausted that I do NOTHING but rest and wait for the week to start all over. VERY SAD WAY TO LIVE.
"We are fortunate to live in a period of human history where its possible to work less." Fuck yes! There's no magic number of hours worked that equates to productivity. We are capable of accomplishing a lot more in less amount of time, that is an indicator of human progress.
+Brent Wagstaff Nicely said.
My company has been on a six day work schedule for the past three months with no end in sight. We sometimes work 13 to 14 hours a day. It's absolutely soul crushing. My one day off is spent doing errands I didn't have time to do during the rest of the week.....not to mention most of that OT goes to taxes anyway. The four day work week is a pipe dream for most here in the United States, unfortunately.
Dude what company is that? I hope you get out/got out!
Are you still work ? 12 hours a week
yeah I don't have a problem with people putting in extra time into their job but I've never understood how a lot of companies can have a six week schedule where Sunday might also be a work day (like hormel). And for some people their job really becomes a big part of their life in that sense but for some if not most it is a soul crusher.
Leave, you fool.
If you continue to work there, then you are complicit with the arrangement. Leave.
Work will always be there but not necessarily family. Go outdoors, spend more time with family and friends. Mental health is just as important as physical health. So live it up.
One CEO didn't like this.
+Strahil Minev Well two now, I bet it's the greedy Koch brothers.
I work 40 hours flat. I refuse to work any more than that. I go home and try to relax but my family has needs. So I don't really rest. Then I spend my weekends making up to my wife and kids for not being there during the week.
Guess who I never have time for?
Me.
This hits deep, the system needs to change
I love the idea of only working 32 hours a week.
The problem is when hourly wages stay the same, and I lose 20% of my income.
Now if wages would increase by 20%, a 32 hour work week would be great.
But I wouldn't bet on it.
How would we all get anything done? The claim to this is people working 4 days are more productive so saying they do 5 days worth of work in 4 days? This is nonsense because if you're losing a whole days work every 5 days then you're obviously bone idle at work. And think about people who work hard, you can't cut hair faster, you can't do operations faster, drive hgv faster. And with working one day less Where's all the skilled workers going to come from to cover that lost day? Suddenly there's a shortage of every single low to high skilled job.
All these trials are showing us is people in offices do fk all, all day apparently.
So maybe other lines of work will work like office workers do today? Next time you get your haircut, two barbers will decide to stop mid cut and have a 15 min chat with each other. Then they can add up to a whole day loss of work too
If they need you they wont just shut the place down, they'll pay you overtime.
@@Yophillips3272 At first there would likely be a lot of overtime, but they would probably try to hire more people to work 32 hours per week.
I work in both a physically demanding space and an intellectual space. I've found moving between those spaces helps my creativity. I've also found its critical to find ways to recharge creative energy so that when you are at the keyboard or producing something that involves analytical thinking and creative production. Sitting in front of your screen burnt out trying to push out an idea that isn't fully baked yet isn't productive. It is also unfulfilling and can put you in a negative space, creating further mental friction. Less hours does not always mean, less production, particularly when quality of that production is key to the success of what you are doing.
32-Hour Workweek..... EEEEEE PLZ! AMAZING!
Working class citizens work so so SO much, it absorbs way too much of their lives. They deserve to live a little more of it~
Millions of American work a 32-hour workweek. What's different about this is getting a living wage and benefits for it -and not having to be on call all the time.
+Miss Cellania We might get that if we elect Bernie Sanders into the White House.
This is beautiful. I will adopt this practice for my future companies. Also, it's a bit pathetic that we (America) can't offer proper maternity/paternity leave and other simple things like that. I used to work for an asshole company and now I don't. One of the many benefits of the world these days.
It's down to work smart, not work hard people.
Nah - working smart doesn't pay off if the contract says "work for 8 hours"! You can't leave earlier and at worst they'll shovel some stupid, un-needed, mindless busy work your way because it makes them look bad if you are napping at work because you are done early!
Finally! people that get it.
there seem to be a number of Atlantic articles in a row discussing universal income, and how to re-envision work. I agree...there’s a huge case for a 30-hr work week. I don’t really feel like people try that hard on Friday anyhow. Critics will complain of course that Thursday will become the new Friday. hogwash. 6-hr workdays should be the norm, relieving the pressure of errands and workouts, and leave anything extra as optional for evening hours or weekends if there’s occasional crunch periods.
Good jobs are becoming too scarce as automation gets more advanced and population grows along with it. Human beings have become a victim of their own success, but that's only a certain perception. It could be argued that the only jobs that are "useful" are those that are necessary for subsistence, such as farming which were mostly done away with once tractors were invented. Centuries ago when monarchies were a thing, people toiled the fields and the nobles had all the free time. With this free time, some of them just goofed around, but some others invested that time into some "hobbies", dabbling in astronomy, literature, mathematics, science, philosophy and etc. These "hobbies" weren't "useful" as they didn't produce anything of immediate value, but it can't be denied that modern society would not be possible without people with too much free time pursuing these "hobbies". "Free time" is a resource that allows society to evolve as people are free to invest in things outside immediate survival.
After a century, we need a change for the better!
I’m grown and live on my own. But my parents and brother definitely believe there is a rule: 40 hours or more per week, no matter what.
I would be so much happier and more productive if I weren't stewing in perpetual rage and resentment from not getting enough time off and enough time at home.
22 dislike? It's 22 CEO didn't like this!!
32 hour work week is great. I agree with everything he said. The only thing I disagree with him is that there is no afterlife.
America and living wages don't go hand and hand.
People in Europe, who are extremely productive (just look at GDP outside of the 2008 financial crisis and covid), work alot less than Americans. We look at North America with sympathy and definitely not envy. Paid annual leave is also extremely different in America. No idea why it's developed this way especially over last 40 years. I now work 9 hours for 4 days, extremely flexible setup, in what is a normal non-tech, employed role. Work life balance is essential to family wellbeing, individual health, and staff retention. Something needs to change.
That's nice a 9 hour working day, but that's already normal here as we don't get paid breaks. So unlike lots of office workers who work 9-5, we work 8-5. 5 hours more at work every week for same total hours worked
@@firstname4865 not sure what your intended point was?
If your CEO has a pirate ship on his desk, you know you are working in the right place
Will never happen in our corrupt country. As long as corporations own our government, we will be overworked and underpaid.
Starting a business is even harder. It requires even more than 40 hours with zero pay.
I love Treehouse! They have great tutorials!
His employees are salaried? This wouldn't benefit wage employees
Micah Larkins It still could. He’d be able to raise their hourly rate to compensate for the reduced schedule.
@@dansugardude2655 let's be realistic here though you know he wouldn't
@@dansugardude2655 besides less hours worked means less production means less revenue means no raise
It depends upon how much is salary is. By working 32 hours a week, it could be more productive being on salary.
If you focus upon being paid per hour, it is inevitable that employees will have to work more hours to make a sufficient income.
@@micahlarkins9963 In regards to productivity, it depends upon what type of job. A lot of White collar jobs, do not require a lot of hours to do the necessary tasks required. It's common to see a lot of hours wasted.
However, in some blue collar jobs, such as truck-driving, reduced hours isn't feasible.
The 32 hour work week is about efficiency. Most jobs do not require 40 hours a week if there is an efficient work schedule!
LOL working 40 hours per week... I remember my first Part Time Job.
OK as long as you are increasing your earnings by working longer hours.
"the us is tha only developed nation that does not guarantee paid vacation atc..."wwwwhhhaattt??? omg
+רבקה אברמוביץ It is indeed, sad what little benefits are legally entitled to workers in the US.
+רבקה אברמוביץ Don't forget maternity/paternity leaves.
Wow ridiculous
The TEDx videos talk plenty of sense in terms of 4 day 32 hours workibh week being a proper work life balance.
Jermey Corbyn wants to see a 4 day 32 working hours. Sadly over 43% voted for a fsr right party in December who wsny force emoloyeee working into the ground working even longer hours than at present and at he same time them losing modt of their employment right in the process. 56.6% rejected the far right tories in the election but we are stuck with them anyway.
'cause people are brainwashed into believing that the left is crazy and all lefties are communists who want to ban private property etc. (there are some, but most simply aren't and just want to give the average Joe a seat at the table, not just some crumbs they then have to fight over as well!)
I would love it.
😭 I wanna work for him and his wife!
To anyone out there that thinks the economy will collapse if this happens, that’s simply not true. Businesses adjust to regulatory change and there’s nothing magic about working five out of every seven days.
The soviet union had 50% of meaningless BS jobs. Those jobs could work zero days per week and not affect gdp. We are at 25% BS jobs right now. It does make sense to cut the work hours to match. except when the jobs are important, cutting their hours doens't make sense.
And now the company is down to less than 10 people, right after an online education boom...
Aaaaaand they stopped it. "Ryan Carson, founder and CEO of the programming-education company Treehouse, created a 32-hour, four-day workweek for his employees. But now he's switched back to a typical five-day workweek. "It created this lack of work ethic in me that was fundamentally detrimental," he explained."
Key word "in me". If he wants to work 5 days to keep his work ethic. Then he can do that but let the employee have their 3 days off
@@quietcontender6969 They got rid of it for their employees too.
I work a 32 hour work week... its bullshit. I usually end up working 40 or more by covering open shifts anyway. Also the cost of living has consistently increased over time while wages stay the same. Who can afford to work 8 hours less, when u are charged more for the basic necessities than generations before you?
Hear Hear!
As long as they still get paid for 40, keep their health benefits and 401k why not.
Yes, I'm all for it. They will probably still make us work atleast 48hrs a week but atleast we will get paid a little more.
Good luck with that, companies will just move to conservative states, get a huge tax break and beggin hammering away, Im sure people from luisiana, tennesee or georgia would jump and replace these people, they are desperate out here 🤷♂️
think not in Alabama we have jobs out the yin yang but in some parts of the state we have unemployment in the double digits why is easy the jobs that are available for these people is unworkable think 12 hour days 5 days out of the week or more and if you call in sick 3 days in a row you get fired and the pay is barely enough for a one-bedroom apartment. no one but the mentally ill or desperate would go to these jobs. so in short a lot of people are out of work by choice all they want is a 40 hour work week time to live there life on there terms away from work what could be so wrong with that its a problem but I think someone is lining their pockets instead of solving the problem. if your married you'll have a divorce. if you have kids you won't see them grow up. all in all its not living. it's legalized slavery
I would love to have the four-day work week but we all know and most of all work places there are a few people who do not carry their weight and they're the ones that do carry their and the other ones. If we do this this is double work for the ones who carry the way anymore and when we lose that day of pay because 85% of us are paycheck to paycheck as it is this would put us in the hole deeper than trying to see the light distance. This word do more harm to us than good financially
Kids are a cost for a lot longer than the first 18 years.
Yeah I'm a latino and I thought that was a pretty white thing to say. No offense
32 hours. That's 6 hours less. Not even a full day. The people make it sound like they are changing the world. Are the workers still getting breaks, lunches? If you eliminated breaks, which are a requirement in some states and not a requirement in others. Then you could save time that way but people are still coming in 5 days a week. When you have to go into work that whole day is ruined. Even if you are there for a few hours. Your mental clarity is focused on that. Not your life. The ideal is to have more free days than work days a week.
Agree. The only advantage of a half day on Friday is by then I'm exhausted and have mentally checked out unless it is something new or some crisis that I'm working on.
...and, in 2016, what happened?
So the upper class should work less and the lower classes should work more?
What if you have a minimum wage job? How can you survive on only 32 hours of work per week? Some even need to work 2 or 3 jobs to get by these days.
Exactly and the reason nobody can take a vacation and has to work more is because wages have not kept up with inflation. The dollar is worth much less than it was in 1979. These beta-male neckbeards put a high value on their existence but if you wiped out all of their jobs it wouldn't effect the economy at all.
The idea is that their total income should stay the same (because productivity per hour goes down when people are miserable and overworked), but with 32 hours instead of 40 (or whatever number they are currently working).
Mandatory living-wage! No job can pay less than what is needed to live a decent life! "But we can't afford that" - Bullcrap! People like Bezos and others like him could lose a few billion to finance this..."But they will leave for other countries" - not if this is implemented everywhere!
Newflash. We aren't Europe.
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I do 60-70 hours a week. Some jobs really need time. Especially physical things like moving pallets in a ware house or construction. This short work week makes sense for some industries but itsnt feasible for alot
Actually a shorter week probably would benefit those fields as well.
There is an increased accident and illness rate with working over 12 hours a day or 60 hours a week.
www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2005/08/18/58572.htm
Membrane556 what you're looking for is more automation
A "baby George"
wait till shrub apartments come in offering the same thing for 20 bucks a month working 60+ hrs a week and see if he still feels the same way. I'm looking at you china! Let's say we have company A , and company B with 50 workers each in the same field competing. Company A - 32 hrs a week company b 40 hrs a week that is a 400 hour difference for innovation development and general business management to your competition per week!
I like the idea of the 32-hour workweek but how sad to not believe in heaven. I couldn't imagine thinking that with how awful this world can be that this is all there is. We all have a void in our soul that longs for the Lord, you just have to call on Him.
willugoupordown I don't have any holes in my soul, and this life is amazing on balance, even with the bad parts.
Everyone has a yearning to know where we came from, why we're here, and where we are going when we die. It's the correct answer to those questions that lead us to the Lord. You are right about this life being amazing, but the things in this life are just a glimpse of what God has in store for those who believe in him wholeheartedly. Thank you for your response.
so because this world is awful you are inclined to believe in heaven? that just sounds like you're weak minded and move to the easier solution. If u had the same faith in humanity as u do in god YOU could make a difference instead of just waiting till the next life. do you need to be fearful of not going to heaven to be a good person? or could u just be compassionate towards others and have morals that get u through life happy without being judged for all ur actions afterward. i dont get religion
As I said in my other reply, there are many things that lead us to God, but yes the world being awful or cursed, as the Bible states it, is definitely a good reason to want to seek out God and/or if heaven is real, yes. It's interesting that you think it makes me weak minded and that believing that an all-knowing, all-powerful God exist that created us and everything. To me, it is obvious our entire world and everything around us were created specifically for us. You are right though, it is the easier solution. I mean, once you realize that Jesus really does exist and died for our sins and was used by God to create the world, everything falls into place. For example, where did we come from? He made us. Why are we here? He created us to live in a perfect world with him forever, but it was all ruined when Adam and Even chose to sin so Jesus had to die to pay for our sins and theirs. Where do we go when we die? It depends on whether you've asked God to forgive you for all of your sins and to save you from hell. If I put my faith in humanity, humanity would have already and has already failed me time and time again. Without God, nothing we do here has a purpose. It is only the things that we do for Him that matter. That's a great question about being fearful! The answer is no, not now that I've asked and received forgiveness from God and know, without a doubt, that I am going to heaven when I die. However, you are right, the 2 things are related. You see, good is defined by God and His word says that there are none that do good. Without God, there is no true and definite definition of things like "good" or "morals". The judgement will definitely not be fun, but it is for a short time and well worth heaven and being in the presence of God for all eternity versus hell.
god sounds selfish, we are here just to pledge our lives to him in hopes of a better life in heaven? if god really loves us ALL then why banish people to hell to suffer, but what is hell anyway? endless torture? but anyway we do have theories of where we came from, yes theyre just theories that have yet to be proven but when does humanity ever accept new scientific theories it takes time, and we know a lot more then we did 200 years ago. we know there are planets similar to ours in the universe that could support life. i would say there has to be some sort of other life out there and im s ure they arnt christians, heck christianity is 1 out of so many other religions how do u know u picked the right one? every thing revolves around faith, i personally rely on reason
Math, math, math. Come on... THINK! 32 hour work week will mean people will lose money. Be forced to adjust their quality of life or get another job. This is utterly foolish.
4x 10 hour days is the only thing worth attempting. Would also open up 3x 10 hour days for part time which helps lots of people working part time. You have to keep it equal or greater or people will miss out.
Want math? (productivity per hour)*(hours)=(total productivity)
The productivity per hour isn't a fixed constant. There are diminishing returns of working longer hours. Otherwise, your "math" solution leads to the obvious answer of a 168 hour work week.
@@KevinDurette Also, in case it wasn't painstakingly obvious, fuck you.
Taylor Aprile bro shut up. You’re trying to seem smart by using unnecessary language. Get a life
If facts disagree with your worldview, do you get angry, or do you change your worldview? www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190912-what-wartime-munitionettes-can-teach-us-about-burnout
Bullshit - productivity in most cases will not sink, because frankly: Most people spend only 4 hours (many even less!) truly working in an 8 hour day! You chat with this co-worker, you chat with that co-worker, you take a (smoking) break (if you are a smoker), you get yourself several cups of coffee, you take a lot leaks because of the coffee (or whatever else you are drinking), you are interrupted by noise, you are pretending to be working while being on social media etc. etc. - so reducing the actual time spent at the office is a good idea! A lot of start-ups test this and keep it, hell Microsoft Japan (Japan is the industrialized nation with the most working hours, the least holidays and the most work related suicides!) has a 4 day work-week now! They tested it and they are sticking with it!