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“Most employers only pay enough so most employees don’t quit. Most employees only work hard enough not to get fired.” Movie suicide kings
and most company stock owners sit on their fat asses at home and collect free capital gains at 15% tax rate. touche'
@@TheLinuxYes but I like the stonk
@@corruptedzero9619 beats working for a living.
@@TheLinuxYes the fact that most people think nothing wrong with this is actually scary
@@Nerobyrne the big business owned news media plus underfunded public schools keeps the murcan sheeple ignorant and misinformed.
Just like their Owners prefer.
Listen to this dude, I used to be contracted to do 40 hours and it was nearly frowned on to do 40 and go home. I'd do 50-60 a week excl commute with little or no breaks and 5 mins for lunch. You slowly but surely burn out. And the erosion of your personal time makes you lose the will to live as long hours of work becomes the norm -its expected and underappreciated. Dont do it.
I work in health care 40 hours in 3 days ,4 days off it is really appreciated if u can do this ure bosses see u as having a good work life balance and ure happier and it leaves the overtime for those who really need it . 4 days off is fantastic and should be the norm
Did they pay you for the extra hours??
I bet the guys who frowned upon you only doing 40 hours did less than 40
@@janityy It’s not for everybody. You’re doing the same amount of hours and often are hammered the whole time you’re working. I much prefer the 9 to 5 to 3 on 4 off. I had a lady say to me, who didn’t work at all mind you, “Do you still only work 3 days a week?” Go screw yourself, lady.
I found a job and after 1 day she gave me the contract where i get much less pay, there's no extra pay and everything is shit tbh
Im looking for something else already 😂
Yup
With software engineers, 90% of what we do is all in our head.
So is the other 10%
@@Phil_Scott "high mountains of Guatemala" bet there's some good coffee there!
@@Phil_Scott No, even team lead think that writing code is the only work we are getting done. My assh*le team lead everyday calls me to complaint about how much time I spend on testing and thinking about the problem.
I’ve done some of my best work just staring at the ceiling.
I’m able to solve problems better when I’m on the road or when I’m not consciously thinking about it rather than sitting at a desk just staring at the screen. Our brains work in amazing ways
Work 8 hours a day and get your job done: Good
Work 8 hours a day but get nothing done: "If it continues like this im gonna have to let you go. I pay you because you produce someting.
Work 3 hours and get your job done: "Great, then you can start this next thing. I pay you for the hours you put in after all"
That's how it works. You are paid for your time. I don't see why everyone is crying about this.
@@mydadletsmeshootatcats6754 you literally cant read comprehensively..
@@goblino3494 Most job contracts specify working hours. I don't see what the big deal is.
That's when people learn how to milk the work, do the job, but stretch it out till the 8 hours are up.
@@mydadletsmeshootatcats6754 its ok. Not everyone can do jobs beyond manual labour. Most people will be just fine working 9-5 and some smarter ones will game the system. Id preffer a better world though.
Most people are happier working 20 hours a week, even on jobs they don't really like. 40 hours/week seems a little excessive for many jobs.
Part of the issue is how no companies aren’t willing to tell customers no or explain to them how the business actually functions.
@@stephen8342 Some customers are complete fuckwits.
No its not
@@blacklyfe5543You’re slow.
I prefer 56+ hours a week.
Don't spend your best hours working for the company. Spend it building something for you that gonna benefit you later.
you are an internet meme
Yes
The greatest sweet words of wisdom for the internet economy
Employers HATE this guy
Bad employers hate Josh. Good employers or bad employers that want to be good employers (ones who have very productive staff) would pay attention to Josh's advice and examples.
No I don't.
Professional developers also hate him. He makes us all look terrible.
Employer here, I don't give a fuck what my employees do as long as they get their work done tbh.
@@tripd4949 Trust me, if they're sitting watching netflix while they work they will get the work done but they will take more hours and thus you'll pay more. If you don't mind the extra money as long as 'it gets done' fine but I find it unusual.
My last employer finally let us work remotely due to the pandemic. I'm the type that gets 8 hours worth of assigned work done in 2. I got a call from my (douchebag) boss, he's like "hey so I noticed your VPN is only active like 3 hours a day so I cut it off. I expect you to be in the office 8-5 starting tomorrow"
I was like "is something not getting done?"
"no but you need to be active for 8 hours a day"
"fuck you I quit"
Now I'm self employed and life has never been better lmao.
What level of mental illness is this? Wtf
@@Viper4ever05 LOL
I'm the same. I LOVE working remote! When I'm at the office I keep asking for more work, but I never have work for more than 20 hours a week. I rather spend those remaining 20 hours a week at home doing nothing, then at the office doing nothing.
Make sure you never signed any noncompetive contracts so they donot sue you into oblivion .
That's so stupid. He wanted you to work the full day, even though you were getting your work done in less time? What's the point? You still did everything you were supposed to.
I feel you, Josh. Working 40 hours does not mean you worked those 40 hours non stop. I think most people only work four or five hours a day.
There are only four letters in DNA; no need for circular logic here...
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yup, except when we be working in a call center lol
I'm also in a call center that was from home before all of this. Gotta work the whole time by taking calls.
True. As a developer, I think it's impossible to be productive 8 out of 8 hours work time. My personal productivity is between 4 and 6 hours depending on the day.
You're productivity is meaningless if the decision maker feels threatened that he/she will lose their management job due to you demonstrating you can self manage.
Boo hoo to them. If you can self manage you can self manage.
I self manage and end up with plenty of "go no where" errands and review comments to things that I'm already doing. It's as though they just have to say something.
@@goombakiwi what?
goombakiwi the goal is to eat into your productivity
Which sucks. The point of management should be to set goals, guide & coordinate the team, and do general delegation and decision-making... NOT waste time micromanage every little thing you do.
That “presenteeism” is very prevalent in corporate jobs: ppl look like they’re working hard by just sitting at their desks the longest. I’ve seen the most useless people do that and the boss thinks they’re the best.
They know how to play the game...
I wouldn't even blame them for doing that. They are a product of the environment
Best advice of the day: Don't give your best hours to the company
Pretty much exactly why working days are so long -- keep you at the office until your eyes burn because you can't work on your own projects there. That way you can only give your best hours to yourself if you go to bed immediately after getting home and wake up at 3am. It's a legit option, sure, but basically the company's position is that between leisure, personal projects, and a job, you can only choose two of those. And they know what the peasants will choose.
I am actually thinking of quiting after this month and relearn and unlearn some stuffs and go solo
The deadlines are demonic, the pay has been reduced due to corona
So true.
But.u get paid by the hour
My father told me that my goal should be to start a business and work. Work until you do not have to work anymore and try to reach it before you turn 40.
That's kind of like my plan. Then I'll use the money to help people.
Your father is 100% right.
Yes your father is right. At this day and age, practically anyone can start their own business and work for themselves if they have a good pitch/idea and are motivated enough to learn basic business strategies
thats the idea man
Altamush Nayyer Khan
Of course your father would tell you that; that's what all typical parents say. They're from a generation that was told we only exist to work and serve the corporate empire. 🤪
"We need you to work more hours"
"Great, I need you to pay me more hours"
"Wait hold up ..."
Lol
So true
Don’t they pay you more with overtime? Unless you’re salary, which requires you to agree upon that.
@@sheepymiix I'm pretty sure they're legally required to pay more for overtime.
But of course greedy bosses try to get around that.
All you have to do is not let them.
That's why I don't work salary jobs
One thing I've enjoyed from this working from home is that I am goal focused rather than time focused. At the beginning of the day I set my goals, when I reach them, I'm done. Since I am a responsible adult, I set appropriate goals.
i've been working from home and finished all my stuff in a few hours. the rest of the day i spent watching youtube and playing games.
Same here. I was initially surprised to find that I can accomplish in 2 hours what I'm typically expected to do in 8 hours during 'normal' times. I make no apologies.
My work is good and submitted on time. Frankly, I'm grateful to be able to still be employed while working remotely, but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit at my desk for 8 straight hours. #DoomEternal
@@David-bl6wm Same goes with school syllabus. I was able to complete the syllabus worth of 2 years in just 2 months just because I went really hardcore.
so....no side hustle? just burning your life until payday when you.....go watch more yt and games?
how will you advance yourself without the yoke of corporate?
well most bosses like to keep checking up on you. so they like to keep the workload consistent.
@@FractalPrism. well yeah. i don't do side hustles. thankfully i don't really need them.
I solve most of my problems during my sleep and implement them the next morning. I should bill my sleep.
Same here! The day is for implementing solutions that sleep made for me, and for assessing new problems. The night is for problemsolving by sleeping.
Of course I think on / analyse problems to the limit of my knowledge during the day, but the night is when the boundary is pushed.
Why does it happen?
@@dityadion249 Because when you sleep your brain sifts through information and determines what is useful, and what is not. And, through that, it tries to figure out problems to further increase your survivability and decrease the need to exert more will power when awake. (I tried to fart out an explanation. So, research more and take what said with a grain of salt.)
@@Hyperdonic2
Well, it organizes the information, so that it's faster and more accurate to access and so there's less conflicts to bog everything down. Basically, it's streamlining.
You will be an awesome lawyer haha!!!
I just got hired at a digital marketing agency and due to COVID were all remote right now. My training has been completely remote and I love it I don’t think I could ever go back to working in office full time 😱
Fight for remote work when Covid is done. Show that you were more productive at home and how you don't need to be managed.
@@Bladeofwar94 were all permanently remote now 😃
@@theamethyst93 I need advice
I like a 3-4 day remote, 1-2 office day split
@@theamethyst93 I'm looking for a job!
This is so true man. Numerous times I've found myself at the end of the day with what feels like a big problem to solve. I stare at the code but it just doesn't make sense, it seems insurmountable, I don't make much progress at all. Then I come back to it the next morning, refreshed and ready, and solve it in casually in 30 minutes without really even having to think about it, the solution is suddenly obvious. Getting this extra time at home has made this painfully obvious that those last few hours of the day are rarely useful for anything. All my good productivity happens much earlier, after that, it's totally diminishing returns.
well, when you are so "focused" you lose your broader vision. taking a break helps you relax and reset.
It's especially funny when you have meetings from 9:45 to 13, then you take a lunch break and afterwards you're just burnt out already before writing a single line of code
While you stare at the code, the brain is processing, even if you don't get the answer. When you leave and relax, the brain is still processing but in a different way.
Yes! I am a technical writer and it's basically the same. I sit and stare at my computer unable to think of a way to explain something. The next day I open my document and it's done in like 30 min
Read in corporate voice: "But mr.Flute where does loyalty fit into this remote model?"
"But where do I have the opportunity to micro manage you, Mr. Flute?"
Mr Flute... lmao
Space Meter lol
The same amount of loyalty that they have for their employees - which is always nearly NONE.
Now that we are remote, my work is finding all ways to micromanage our hours and it’s super annoying and a waste of time. It’s been 2 weeks and I’m already sick of it, we shouldn’t need to do all of this, as long as we complete our tasks we should be okay.
Besides, the system doesn’t even work correctly, which makes it much more worse.
In my office we started using clockify, is micromanagment and all that jazz, but it really helps me to how I'm working and how productive I'm (Important part of the usage of the tool is to clock only productive hours). And if they want to talk to me about that tuesday that I workes 5 hours, I can happily talk to them and tone down the "not enough work" conversation easily by contrasting normal office routines of all of us. 5 productive hours are A LOT IMO, and my opinion is important in my context.
The point is, be confident about your work, if they want to clock you, negotiate what that does mean, and micro manage the important stuff
Micromanagement lol 😆.
My boss writes to me everyday because I didn’t put in some task (I did but the system they use sucks and keeps taking them out) and there are sub tasks and each one have a certain value and you can only change that on Monday.
You have to log in meeting times, etc because you MUST reach a certain number of hours
as c++ dev i wouldve sabotaged every part of it :D, finding out the way i did it would be more expensive than i am myself. Man i love to be free too much :D
don't forget the cover letter on your TPS report
Couldn't agree more with what is said here. It is almost as if we are being paid to sit around and waste our life away. I get it, if we are working for someone else we should spend time building their business, but I can get my best hours of performance out in 3-4 hours. After that and I feel that I am being forced to stay at work. In addition, it is almost as if we are getting paid to give up on our dreams, the 40 hour work week is designed as such. Go to work, spend the best energy of your day on something else you will never own, then go home super drained and try to make it through the night. Then repeat, over and over again. That is why entrepreneurs who *look* *for* *meaning* *and* *more* *then* *a* *paycheck* spend hundreds if not thousands of hours building something *they* *believe* *in* . I can say the same thing for myself being a small but growing entrepreneur. Its not easy, but easily well worth it.
@@CT-yc4gd Hey C T, thanks for reaching out. I do agree that entrepreneurship is much riskers, and that is where the individual will have to asses what is worth the risk - staying at the same job and never trying, or giving all they got and see where life takes them. While taking a risk can be financially unstable, one could still work part time and/or reduce their operating costs to reduce risk even more. Just a few thoughts =)
I hate life because of that
@@tekiero Most people are not aware that they are drifting in life and in the rat race. But because you have this knowledge, you can take action to change it. You can build a business to start your journey. I would recommend learning more about real estate as you can develop passive income, which will continue to generate money even if you don't feel like working on any particular day. Obviously this requires early planning and capitol funds, though I do believe that if you set your mind on it and make continuous strides (learning, become involved, increase savings, etc.), you *will* eventually reach your goals. Stay positive and if there is anything to remember, *do* *not* *give* *up* .
Sometimes you need to know when to give up on something, to change what direction you’re going in. Broadening your acceptable ends allows you to take opportunities in directions you may not consider normally. Many people try one dream that wont happen and ended up finding one that did work out.
@@hayuseen6683 I think what you are saying is also good to keep in mind. If profit loss is too great, making a transition is also a skillset in itself. Thanks for sharing!
My hours have almost doubled because my PM and POs want 4 meetings every day, on top of our regular meetings, daily reports, and constant slack check-ins. My team is going from highly productive 4-5 hour days (3-4 hours for lunch, playing games, and shooting the shit) to highly unproductive 12 hour days (and that is of straight work related activities) all because our managers are bored and don't know how to use their time out of the office. We fucking hate it so much and developers have worked remote Thursdays and Fridays for 2 years! I assumed this would be a piece of cake, but you know what they say if you assume....
4 meetings a day is absurd. There should only be 2 meetings at most. One 5 minute meeting at the start of the day for any priority issues, and then 10-30 minute meeting to discuss what's been done, still needs fixing, suggestions, etc. These managers are f**king useless time wasters who suck away time and money to make themselves feel important.
You can be a better employee by being lazy and friends with the boss while actual hard workers just get exploited and treated like dirt.
"Don't give them the best hours of your day" God I love that! That's gonna stick with me
I'm a tradesman, nevertheless I get a heck of a lot out of your videos, Josh: keep doing this!
Favourite parts of this video: "work on your side-hustle, don't play games"; and, "use the best part your day to better yourself."
1. Great motivation! (I do have a ton of possible side-hustle to get started on)
2. Yes, the best part of the day (for me, at least) should be reserved for God. I'm not saying everyone should do the same, only that I am at my best when I have spent time with my Creator before I start anything else.
Josh, I have watched your cult videos, and you are correct. What you grew up in was not a Christian group.
I can only pray you will continue to be healed from that sickening experience.
When I got my first job as a civil engineer i really didn't ask them about the working hours, cause i thought it would be a 9to5 job but i ended up working for 81hours a week and u can't even imagine how much low i was getting paid, first i thought that's how this field works and then the lockdown happened and i left.
That was the best decision of my life.
81 hours a week? Fuck thats insane and not healthy
I left the civil industry for good,
cause every where the conditions were almost same.
In my country every private sector has this story people work over time without pay, because if they say no they will get fired.
Bosses will say you are less productive so goodbye.
I can say it happens in many parts of the world.
Some guy gets super rich while others suffer for basic necessities.
Only way i see to overcome this exploitation is that everyone should start working as freelancer.
Say your price and let everyone decide unanimously that they dont quote lower than a certain amount no matter their experience based on their field, country and city basic expenses.Its not a impossible thing to achieve in this era of internet.
We just need to wake up and act.
Otherwise suffer.
81 hours isnt healthy period. Fuxking elon and his 105 hour mantra, you're a fool if you think being a workaholic would make you happy.
100% Exactly how I am thinking and doing. Thank you.
Can you say it a little louder so the folks in the back can hear?
I swear only worked 2.3 hrs today. Yet, I was highly productive. Mind you that (2.3hrs) was for my Job.... All the other hours are spent building the side hustle..... Never work more hours for a company than for yourself.... 20% - Company time 80%- Your time and side hustles.
I fw you for this-my personal projects take precedent over the company work quite often
Definitely the best piece of content that you've shared with everyone! Really insightful, and hope a lot of companies see this benefit of people being to be as productive, if not even more productive with this shift to remote work. Thanks for the content we thought we didn't need, but in fact did.
I honestly work 3 to 4 hours in an 8 hour shift. I get what needs to get done proficiently and quickly. The rest of the time I try to research something towards additional certs and whatnot. I managed to get my CSP cert and now working towards my CIH so I can start my own health and safety consultation company. Want to work for myself eventually. Some weeks are slow though and I have almost no work to do but I'm still paid hourly. Makes me feel guilty even though its no fault of my own.
Never feel guilty
@@jeffshackleford3152 Im doing my best not to. Especially since it seems most people work like I do anyways. The 8 hr work day never made all that much sense to me for moat industries.
Yeah dude, I still get paid hourly, so I have to somehow "prove" that I'm consistently busy during the entire 8-hour day. I also work in tech support and not in software development (yet, fingers crossed), so I also get to deal with morons all day long.
Livin' the dream.
getting paid for 8 hours doesnt mean you owe them 8 hours of work.
yes you get breaks but your mind needs more downtime than that.
its not a nose to the grindstone situation where you must burn at 100%, dont let them do that to you.
Once had a supervisor that said if you’re not working on something during your assigned 8 hours (also tech support) you were basically stealing from the company.
I used to think users were the worst to deal with until a manager went all small dick .. Users at least are usually nice and appreciative (aside from executives and those who formerly worked IT and think they know everything)
Joshua : "There is no job security." Me as a french person: "Oh, that's one of these american things"
Hey Frenchy, your near 25% unemployment rate is calling, and you're welcome. By the way, don't bother with official statistics, their a joke. I know you're people. I've never met a hard working Frenchman that didn't feel total contempt for his compatriots.
@@NickMart1985 Last I checked 8% unemployment, know your France facts xD. That value didn't change very much with the pandemic btw because of generous government aids. I'm a quite hard working frenchman, I left college with two finance degrees (and zero debt), if I have healthcare problems I don't die for a lack of money and I have absolutely no problem paying my taxes.
Now you know at least one frenchman that doesn't feel total contempt for his compatriots! But I definetly wouldn't say France is a perfect country and wouldn't dare to conceive that french people are all awesome, FAR FROM THAT. I'm more of a nuanced person and don't think in extremes. The USA system is extreme, and extremes aren't good.
@@thomasb.5643 Your entire first paragraph is an extreme stereotype. People in the US aren't dying from "lack of money" for healthcare. Thats a lie.
@@NickMart1985 they're*
@@yousufleads grow up.
Josh, you need to keep making content like this. I literally watch these videos for motivation so I can continue to learn and make projects for myself to have that side hustle.
During WW2 there was a study on productivity.After 8 hours productivity went down.
I worked 9 hours last week and that last hour was brutal.
I feel your pain.
@philip Trevor gotta keep the slaves preoccupied. Wouldn't want any wrong think
@Meme Kingpin same dude
@Meme Kingpin what you do the other 6 hours
Anytime you're thinking about work, that's work.
Thanks, Josh. Solid advice here. However, on-premise work gives managers an increased illusion of control over you and your time. I don't see them letting it go so easily.
Statistically you only "work" 3 hours of an 8 hour day. The rest of the day isn't really used.
Skyler Andrus , try that in the oilfield. Ain’t no cushy sit on your backside and look busy world out here. When they say 12 hour shifts, it’s a hard 12 hours. Same for truckers. Someone has to get the job done.
Nathan S, lol
@@thundervalley9766 You misunderstand. This isn't to say you are incapable of working the entire day. Simply that your efficiency and efficacy are greatly diminished during the rest of the day by comparison. A wise management system works around this fact and tries to optimize this time so you don't have any meetings or interruptions during this period. With Physical labor this is not really as impactful as most of it doesn't require a high amount of mental focus. But in situations that require hyper awareness your not going to be able to maintain that state all day long.
Thusly someone working remote, if able to optimize their work, could complete 8 hours of work in 3 hrs.
Skyler Andrus, I understand what you are trying to say, but I can give my job as a for instance. I read gas and oil wells. That is to say, I predict what is happening miles under my feet by the readings I get at the surface. They call me when the wells no longer flow. I must formulate, and execute a plan based on what I think will make them flow. I am both labor, and planner of the operation. When I’m on site I’m in charge. Safety of personnel, then execution of my plan. I cannot afford mistakes, they could cost me or someone else their life. I usually work in 12 hour shifts with lunch and a few other breaks. No slack, or diminished efficiency time for me. I cannot afford the risk of slacking. I know my job is way different than yours, and I am sure several others are too. Just thought I’d share so you could compare.
@@thundervalley9766 no one told you to pick one of the worst jobs bc you wanna be paid more than most Americans. Quit complaining. You make more money then most of us. DONT like it? Leave but you won’t so stfu
It’s amazing watching this very video AFTER some of your most recent ones, and watching it as how you went from mild opinions against canonical job culture to more cynical ones. Really love it, because that’s what we all experience.
I'm still on that pre Jr. Dev grind. When I sit to study, I pause the clock when I start slacking. But it's also good to hear this. I don't like to count other non-tutorial or non-coding time as productive time even if it contributes to me getting a job(like watching these videos, or applying for jobs, updating resume, updating portfolio). I think the best piece of advice I've heard from you is to constantly have job interviews lined up even if you already have a job.
Best manager l ever had was a guy that knew when he had to get out of our way. He was only interested in output, not in hours worked. Asked more often what he could do for us than whether or not we were done. Loved that guy. And guess what? We were super motivated to hit our deadlines.
Joshua, thank you for all of your helpful tips. Thank you for caring about the worker! You are awesome! You deserve it!
2-3 hours of my day at office gets wasted in hallways chatter or people pooping into office. I like working from home Bc I can just do my job not interrupted. U have to say hi to so many people when in person
After the labor movement helped us to win the 40 hour work week as a society (down from whatever hours the employer wanted in the factories), productivity was increasing exponentially, wages were rising, and people in the 1950s through the early 1970s thought we would continue to diminish work hours - full time at 25 hours or less! Its funny how we work an average of 47 hours a week now despite the massive rise in productivity. Its almost like after unions lost their teeth in the 1970s and companies were allowed to outsource, we have regressed. It seems like a great time to update our labor laws from those using examples of physical telephone operators and take back our time. Good video, Josh. Seems like u have the philosophy of Mills, but u should check out the move to cooperatives too :)
The only thing that matters is what you can do in a day and what you can't do in a day. Realistically, less than 4 hours is required to get a full days work in. Any more than that is most likely a waste of time. Whenever I had to find more work to do to fill time, I would go out of my way to find some BS work to do so I'm not just sitting there for 4 hours. All of that extra work was meaningless and added zero value. I could've used it to focus on myself, but of course I had to be in the office being productive for 9 hours.
Reminds me of a lot of office work. There are days when boss walks in and because I don't look busy (arms flapping around) like the manual workers they say he is doing nothing.
To be honest, the 4 hours is then followed by : "i wanna do more but there isn't anything more meaningful to acutally do". i always find it annoying when i hear: "you're just being lazy". actually no, i want to be productive but if i find that i am wasting my time why the fuck would i bother? "
Always on point. Brilliant
I like how what you preach is the normal reality of things but certain people and corporations were left behind. In the world that they knew back then. In a world that made sense back then. Good luck with the message, bud. Thumbs up.
I would say that how many meetings and how they are spaced out has alot more impact than hours worked on productivity. If I have 3 30 minuite meetings in a day I'm not getting anything done development-wise unless they are more or less back to back. Those short little 30 minuite breaks aren't enough for me to actually get into the mindset needed to make meaningful progress.
Oh wow, that is a lot of meetings. I would be curious to know: do you think they are all needed or organised?
Personally ive found i need a good 3 hour chunk to actually do some work. One hour to prepare and research, one hour to build a test/early sample of the work and then the last hour refining it and making it better and more efficient. so days where i have loads of meetings i just write off productivity wise
Jean Allaire i mean, I know some jobs require more meetings. But if your job is not to sit in a meeting, 3hour per day is way too much, at least to me 🤷♀️.
Most meetings could be written on slack or teams. If you think all the meetings you attend are necessary and organised, then it’s your job so your opinion.
These meetings take developers out of the mindset they need to be creative and problem solve. The more a person talks, the more useless they tend to be. And meetings are nothing but talking.
I'm In health care I work 40 hours in 3 days and 4 days off its a real nice work life balance and I can leave the overtime for those who need it more . So I'm off about 16 days a month I feel it works the best for me and I'm more productive
Where I work working overtime is actually frowned upon. Working extra from home etc is discouraged. If you can't get the job done in 40 hours maybe you're not the man for the job.
Good advice, Josh, I'll keep some of that in mind for when it comes to my photography.
The notes is key. Everyone should keep notes on the work they complete regardless if they work at home or not. With those notes you can argue that you're working effectively, as Josh mentioned, or if the company is being irrational argue that the work given wasn't achievable in the planned time.
This is great. More musicians need to adopt this mentality.
Work smarter not harder is definitely a powerful message. That being said, especially in roles like vendor management, sometimes you just need the extra quiet hours to get stuff done.
Sometimes distractions are a reality of your work environment, no matter how efficient you are at your task.
"work smarter not harder" is only half right. People that are succesfull are doing both. there is a reason people like elon musk, bill gates etc are so successful. they dedicate all their time into it.
it's all about work ethic. and no it's not about wasting your life. because that's a personal thing. if you want to have a high ecological/sociological status then that's your choice.
@@techno0suck3r We are talking about two different things. I was talking about efficiency, you are talking about work ethic. To your point, successful people have mastery of both.
There's also the ability to quickly prioritize, too. Following the vendor management example I gave, sometimes even though you want to work on a process gap, potential efficiency gain, or personal research project, your time is better spent directing your vendors to help you reach your goals. The highest value people in these sorts of environments are the ones that can calmly make organization out of chaos.
@@techno0suck3r they worked hard and long hours because they were building things for themselves. Working hard long hours for some company that doesn't care or appreciate your time and effort is rarely worth it.
Loved the video!
Good stuff man, very insightful.
This is what I kept preaching at my last job. We would work 48-52 hours a week, but nothing really got done. Everyone there knew we were stuck with these hours, so why rush? You would walk through the factory and constantly see people just standing around bullshitting, but as long as they LOOKED busy, the bosses were happy.
Yes ! It's so hard to be motivated when you have the same amount of work day after day with no reward. I'm trying to buy a house right now, and I would FOR SURE be picking up all the extra work if I got paid extra to do it
I'm always sick of this corporate gossip bs..it pisses me off
I have lost track of how many programming problems I have solved while showering! But I can say, 100% sure, that I got paid 0 dollars for those hours. Just saying....
Thanks for the video. Just on time!
I work "40 hours" but honestly it's usually more like 30-35 and I get just as much done.
Josh, when applying to jobs, Ive found some really dumb questions. Like "Please explain any gap". And one that said "If you select Hispanic or Latino in the Ethnicity field, please select "I do not wish to provide this information".
as a white person I never answer these questions, F their EEOC compliance
@M. de k. It's against the law in the US as well.
@M. de k. If they did discriminate yes; however, the question is actually a federally mandated one.
Accountant here. I do maybe 5hrs of actual solid-work. Then 3hrs of doing little bullshit tasks that take 15minutes each. (Scanning, answering the phone when clients call etc.)
I am binging too much ,advice is always appreciated 👏
Great vid
I had a mentor who would work for a couple hours, then literally go fishing in the middle of the day for hours, then come back and knock out the problems he was "working on" while fishing. Inspiration happens when you let it happen, not when you force it to happen.
Why does everyone has a mentor these days
Listening to this while I sleep in my office. Lol
Really good advice for those of us who've been working in an office every day for years. Thanks Josh!
Great video josh!
Let's all make our voices heard so that it becomes sooner when companies decide to reduce 40 hours work week down to 30 hours work week.
So this job (what is it exactly) is different to most jobs where time may mean most jobs. But for example doing security for 8 hours , there is no really doing more or less work you just need to keep the library or wherever safe for 8 hours.
Thanks Josh! You are 100% right. Please make a video talking about how to build a subscription-based web application.
Im going to watch this video every morning. Thanks man
I remember at a defense contractor, I had to fill out an excel spreadsheet at the end of each week in 15 minute increments. Super annoying.
lol my software web development job requires me to fill up something like that everyday (as if JIRA sprint tracking and git commit messages wasn't enough)
@@19Nightwing91 yup. experienced this as well after getting sent to another company as a consultant and it was easily the worst 3 months of my life. The non dev people will keep asking me what my reports mean in non dev speak. I was writing code and tests while training their "devops" staff
19Nightwing91 Some people just follow a formula to make completing the form easier. You just enter the same number of hours for project management, meetings, support, etc., this week as you did last week. Other people because of the different systems in place to account for how you spend your time try to reconcile what’s being reported in the different silos just in case the company starts comparing what people have logged (in one of these silos it is the project manager who is entering how much time you spent on project work). I know that when management wants to get back at someone they will demand to know why what you entered in Jira doesn’t match what you entered elsewhere. I don’t like accounting for my time because the company is imposing a standard by which they judge everyone with the same job title. If you enter too many support hours in a given week, they get upset because you’re deviating from what they believe is ideal. How you enter your hours becomes more important than what you are accomplishing. It is like being evaluated on how often you dust your cubicle.
Because military commanders require contractors both strict hours and all over work over entirety of work hours.
Measurement in terms of time clocked in and time clocked out makes absolutely no sense in terms of measuring a developers productivity. With source control software, it's very easy for a manager to assess a developers productivity if they know what to look for. With the technology available today, developers should always be able to work remotely. I agree, forcing developers to show up at an office for 40 hours a week is ridiculous. I suspect big change is coming soon.
Side hustle ! Great mindset mate :)
This is great advice
Finally someone had say it
40 hr weeks are a joke. i finish my tasks and even finish prep for the next day by 2pm and my shift ends at 4. i should be able to leave at 2 and get paid for the full day.
I’m down for this. I technically did all my productive work today by 1 pm. I would’ve rather come home at that point than waste the second half of the day when I could’ve been at the crib enjoying an early start to my weekend.
valuable AF!
Great idea!
I'm blessed enough to have a job that pays me fourty hours regardless of my work time, I finish most of my work between 6 to 8 hours and work 4 days a week. I am very thorough and never miss any work either because I'm thankful they allow me to do that.
Don't be thankful, they should be thankful. They need you more than you need them.
POV:
Josh: you don’t come home early to play WOW.
Me: face palms after playing GTA V for hours on my day off when I should be drawing to make comic books 😑
gta 5
man, I thought the point in life was to enjoy and relax as much as possible. Now it turns out I need an afterwork side hustle... what a nightmare.
This was great!
Finally! you are back!!!
I've literally never had a job that was only 40hrs.
My boss told us to be on Discord full time with microphones muted to "always stay available" and reminded us that working hours won't change, among other things.
Of course, I'm not on Discord. This is ridiculous.
Same here but with slack, teams and discord. I got so stressed out im now on leave for a few days
Beautifully put! My maths study has cranked up, I'm finishing projects, getting a long walk in every day and even cleaned the house. Once you set your own hours, off you go!
I would like to see more aircraft and aviation related videos on your channel.
These seem to be subjects your passionate about and I'd be interested to know what your planning moving forward with your license and flying.
Maybe show us what aircraft you want to buy and tell us why as a start.
Once your employer needs camera's and micro-management software to spy on you, why would you want to work for such a company in the first place?
Trust and respect work both ways, and i wouldn't want to express any loyalty to and work for people who feel they can't trust me.
I play CoD Mobile whenever I stay more than my 8
Great video!
Thank you, sir! It's simple but not easy and very rewarding in the long run.
I dont if you heard but a lot of people are getting laid off.
"40 hour work weeks are a joke"
no wonder employers today are asking 50+hrs a week, they have the spirit but took it the wrong way lmao
50 hours per week means you have 1 hour free for yourself per day. I mean 10 hours of work plus 3 hours of commute 2 hours for breakfast, lunch, cooking and showering plus 8 hours of sleep. That gives you one hour per day for your relationship, hobbies, friends. Oh and you will be too tired on Saturdays to do any of those things. Working more than 40 hours can and will destroy your health.
One time a guy I knew said he would get a phd in history in order to stand out. Problem is once a few do it, everyone does it. And then it's 4 years more to do the same fucking job!
No wonder people arent happy, 6 years later, dont wanna do this job anymore, 6 years of your life gone or work at a job u hate.
I saw the video title and thought of Bertrand Russels' ' In praise of idleness'. I appreciate what you are doing Josh. Keep it up!
I am not even a programmer or anything IT related but I like your videos because you can relate most of these topics for almost any type of job, especially right now.
I like that saying "work smart, dont work hard". Fits perfectly my believe.
At least y'all get to work from home. I'm still in the office because boomers.
Hey bro, how's your dad?
Hey Josh just wanna say how helpful your channel is to me and many others👌 💯 have a great day
Needed this today.