Ubuntu 24.04 Beta Review: THE WORST INSTALLER EVER
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Ubuntu 24.04 is the first version of Ubuntu I've ever used where the installer is straight up broken. Which is funny because this used to be the OS I installed for old people who were tired of the slowness of Windows 10/11 on a spinning disk..
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You know what "beta" means, right? It exists to let people test software in the wild before it is released, and report issues to be addressed. Not just to whine ceaselessly from the beginning to the end.
You deserve Wayland and broken video games with that mindset IMO
@@pawsinmyface4560 What kind of movie is going on in your head? Why do you hate Wayland, I can run Wayland and gaming under Linux without any problems.
You use a beta and it doesn't work and I didn't have the same problem with the Windows 11 beta either, because there was still a bug with Mutltimonitor support. Did I kick it off there, no because it was a beta and it is in the nature of a beta that not everything always runs smoothly.
So I think with your mindset and intellect it's better for everyone that you stay with Windwos.
@@crowATlinux hi drew devault
can't test it if it wont install and or boot. ooops something went wrong and cannot be fixed please contact your network management. All other betas of ubuntu I never had an issue with. doing update, upgrade and do-release-upgrade -d still failes.
As someone who mains Ubuntu (or rather, Kubuntu) and has installed it countless amount of times, I find it weird to update an installer that already worked. Only to find that it "fails" to properly setup GRUB (from what I see it most likely failed to setup the UEFI boot priority), but fail at literally everything else. Luckily I have my OS setup on a BTRFS filesystem so when I upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 and everything falls flat on its face, I can literally downgrade back until I know for sure they finally fix it.
This is why most people don't main Linux. It's a 50/50 on whether or not it works, but I put up with its bullshit. Try to run Linux on a gaming laptop with both an NVIDIA GPU and Intel iGPU, watch as it falls on its face as soon as you try to touch anything that involves dGPU output and lags to shit. And that will happen until you set the NVIDIA PRIME mode to "nvidia" and not "hybrid". The only reason why I have mine set to hybrid is for power efficiency (nvidia please finally make gpus that are efficient when idle i don't want to have to rely on hybrid mode graphics). Wayland is better for this hybrid mess, but the system hardlocks when you unplug ALL of the dGPU outputs and try to go to the internal iGPU display. I found nobody else having this issue, but it seems to be KDE Plasma related as GNOME doesn't have this problem (KDE 5, Wayland, NVIDIA P3200, UHD 630).
No seriously, Linux is sometimes hard to work with. First time I installed Ubuntu on my Mac Mini, it literally destroyed its own dependencies in aptitude so I couldn't even install anything (no, not even GIMP). I had to reinstall.
Regardless, I hate modern Windows, and am too traumatized from the mess it is to even main it.
From what I can guess, install "x" alongside "y" actually resizes the partition of the OS you're dual booting with. Iirc it never checks for if there is unpartitioned space at all.
I installed Devuan with the Debian installer, and was able to bypass the GRUB issue without ending up with an unconfigured OS because of how Debian's installer works, where you can "skip" steps that fail like the bootloader.
The funny thing is, resizing is exactly what I was told to do. It works fine on the Debian text installer, but not this, because this installer is half baked garbage.
Then I was able to go into the UEFI, purged some of the settings, and got a working install. This is because the new installer has no fallbacks for GRUB issues. Instead of doing the bootloader part last, it does it before it writes in the username and similar info. It's a total trashfire. I have never had has much frustration with any distro in years.
worst thing is they now using flutter sh!t crap for their apps like the installer ui.
Go back to windows 11 and try to not be so negative blaming ubuntu for your ineptitude! You can't even keep this in focus. What a newb.
yeah I agree, Windows 11 doesn't have bugs like this:
github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/pull/10179
active directory support from the installer
that feels ambitious lol
Beta versions are as you guessed beta. I don't get what ur expecting to happen. on beta stuff breaks.
the installer for ubuntu 23.10 sucks too. it's basically the same one
@@mallock8529 feel always free to create bug reports.
OOH-BOON-TOO. MAH-TAY.
IPA > *
Ubuntu's new installer is all sorts of incomplete and broken. I just installed 23.10 and I tried a btrfs on root config but it doesn't let you configure the subvolumes, which defeats the purpose of btrfs. It also crashed on me twice. I have no idea why open source projects insist on rewriting everything constantly and breaking software that was working.
glad I am not the only one who thinks this is a bad installer, as a visually impaired person, I can barely use the installer, orca, the screen reader, historicly never worked with flutter and the same holds true, also the accessibility buttons, according to orca are unlabled, further more you can't get an audible indication that your install is taking place. and what's worse, the older versions of ubuntu used to play a sound when they booted up letting you know you could enable screen reader support. that isn't the case with this one
Feels a lot like an Alpha release rather than a beta.
I use the best *nix distribution: macOS.I mained linux for a number of years before I decided I was done with that mess. I found I have the same command line power in macOS that I do on linux, but unlike linux, the machine boots up 100% of the time, and everything works with no issues.
where download macOS installer?
@@RandomGeometryDashStuff You don't have to, it comes pre-installed :)
@@LunaticEditneed installer if computer has no os preinstalled or it's virtual machine
except you can't use tiling window managers on macos or customize it much at all
@@yusefaslam9675 Which is exactly why it works so well.
i did find a work around to install 24.04. have a wired connetion, drop to shell prompt re add gnome destop, and the kernel as well and it will start. there is some etc stuff you have to do as well. i learned this from google and hours of trying to fix.
Ubuntu hasn't been the normie distro in over a decade. It's been in free fall ever since Gnome 3 in my opinion. Linux Mint is the just werks distro these days.
You almost had it but then you went and mentioned Mint.
@@touma-san91 What's your go-to just works distro?
Having to face BitLocker errors AT ALL is a mark AGAINST accessibility - hardly an argument for Windows. Let alone the Secure Boot nonsense that Windows 11 imposes LMAO Closed tab when I saw that lmao. Hardware so tied to Windows that any kind of alternative iOS installs risks bricking your computer.
But at least, the installer looks good.
user issue, blatantly obvious it failed to write to the boot partition, so you should make a separate boot partition for your Ubuntu install.
theres no such thing like user error when it comes to an ubuntu installer.
sir this isn't a sparcstation with a hdd size limit
A new house is being built...
"God damnit... where's the walls for this thing?"... *the contractors are just bringing in the earth movers*
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@@pawsinmyface4560 Just hilarious... I was kind of joking but damn... :-)
But you're running a beta... therefore you should expect things to not be working...
Normally you buy a new house when it's finished... or maybe 'Muricans do it differently?
ubuntu 24 is complete failure, im totaly sad because im ubuntu fan since 16.04 and its always my #1 OS
Is this Rage Bait? 😂
1. Installs Beta OS not ready for release.
2. Complains about it not working.
This is the dude spoke jamming himself on a bike meme. 😂
If you're gonna use it, learn to say it.... it's pronounced oo-boon-too (all 3 syllables rhyme with the word too/two)
I have 2 ssd, one for Win 11 and the other for Ubuntu. Ubuntu 22 installer runs well, installing OS on the second ssd and boot efi on windows efi partition (first ssd). Ubuntu 24 installer doesnt find my second ssd. So, i will have to install Ubuntu 22 and upgrade😢.
The installer is not ready for manually installing on a separate partition for dual booting purpose without proper user interference to create a boot partition. You had to select the fat32 partition for the bootloader installation for your case as the SSD is clearly formatted for a EFI boot system. Plz, do not complain about a beta stage Ubuntu installation.
Without dual booting with Windows, the installer should work just fine for a general user.
yeah the old one worked just fine ngl
You should ask for your money back!
opensuse tumbleweed installer review when?
it's based and works
watching this at 3am
“24.04 *beta*” so basically this vid is completely useless? It’s beta, of course it’s not going to be ready yet.
"durr it's a beta" I've never had this issue when installing beta or unstable Linux distros, it's almost like the installer is hot garbage.
@@pawsinmyface4560 That is EXACTLY what you should expect from a beta... things WILL break... if you're not ready to do bug reports then never try out new stuff... easy as that...
@@thiesenf I've put in freedesktop bug reports that go nowhere, but if you complain about it Linux users will Do Something (tm)
ubiquity was already pretty terrible and inefficent, but leave it to canonical to mismanage something even worse into existence lol.
People stay on 22.04 or 23.10 till 24.04 is ready. 24,04 is too buggy. MICROSOFT DOESN'T ALWAYS WIN!! You have to have some advanced knowledge to succeed with Linux. Many don't have that.
microsoft winning is a clear joke ngl, it's my sense of humor.
If you know a distro that has a newer kernel and doesn't require babysitting it every week just to keep it working, let me know in the comments. I don't want a 2-3 year old kernel that doesn't support Alder Lake.
Switch to Debian or Slackware. Also, maybe SuSE. A Linux distribution based on a recent kernel not working right with a CPU arch that has been on the market since 2021 is laughable, why even bother with Canonical at this point?
fedora, tumbleweed are the only 2 i can think off
Honestly, I'm pretty sure most Debian-derived stuff tends to be on the slower side when it comes to support for newer systems and the like, though this could just be my experience from over a decade ago. Honestly, something like SuSE or Fedora could be a decent choice to look into, and SuSE Leap (afaik) now uses the same binary and source repos with SuSE Linux Enterprise, hence it's kinda become what CentOS used to be for Red Hat, but stuff like Rocky is now.
I really should get back into using Linux, perhaps once I get a new (to me) laptop.
@@mitchelvalentino1569 i think the cpu must be supported. something with the laptop firmware would be my guess
but who knows lol
Fedora and Linux Mint Edge for Example
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Yeah this version fucking sucks lol
lol ubuntu
it's easier to use Ubuntu to get normies on Linux than it is to get normies into the blobcat posting cult only at misskey.io
I have the real live installation.. not the beta.. and it crashes during install..... NEVER ever had this problem: I think going back to version 6 of Linux..