San Francisco is Building Anti-Homeless Streets
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
- Hostile Design or Hostile Architecture is more common in San Francisco than anywhere else. And because of San Francisco's large homeless population, and wealth disparity it's extremely controversial. But is there more to the story than the viral clips you've seen online?
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It's not "hostile architecture" ... it's trying to keep hostile people out.
If they make it more comfortable, they'll just make it a toilet
Hahaha. Anything can be made a toilet with a bit of creativity.
Which toilet would you suggest these people use?
Just goes to show you that government won't fix the homeless situation and they lack the skills to actually solve the homeless problems because they are more focused on keeping their lifestyle than doing their jobs
Socialist cities doing what they do best. Running their cities like a rathole, they create a “solution“ to a problem they’ve created in the first place 😂😂😂
I use the term "roofless, bum, derelict, vagrant, shelterly challenged", interchangeably
you have to make it uncomfortable for homeless to just put up a tent. Will encourge them to get actually housing.
Unfortunately, it hasn't worked. And there isn't any more housing.
We'll never happen.They can't take their drugs with them
@@Wildman-zh8lg Why is that a requirement for housing? Wouldn't it be easier to recover from addiction disease if you had stable housing?
@@AdamDoesNotExistunfortunately housing won’t help 99% of these people. They need to be institutionalized in mass for their own safety and the publics. It’s very obvious every “progressive” approach is not even an attempt to resolve the issue. You cannot just give housing to mentally ill people, a huge portion of which have intense drug addiction. They need treatment, therefore the solution is to build many, nationwide MASSIVE drug rehabilitation/homeless housing relocation centers and if they can’t be corrected through that program they do not get to interact with the general public. Ever. These programs also CANNOT be permanent housing solutions UNLESS they can prove they’re fitness for society. Granted housing is more complex than this however there’s literally hundreds of millions of Americans struggling right now and not everyone is homeless, therefore proving some people have serious issues that run deeper than just the average issues affecting society. The US and the world cannot afford the ridiculous, dangerous worldview of the left, progressive, communist, marxist, liberal approach to this issue. Not to mention the OUTRAGEOUS abuse that happens through any of these homeless programs which in reality is just a homeless industrial complex. Most of these organizations just steal billions of dollars and quite literally enrich themselves off of tax payer dollars meant to actually fix the problem. Enough is enough. California has done MOST things wrong since the 60s and unfortunately, because they think they’re smarter and better than everyone else they feel they should keep doing EVERYTHING from an extremist left wing perspective. The state is a disaster and yet they feel they should export this ridiculous mindset that doesn’t even work in California and DEFINITELY doesn’t work in the rest of the world. That’s what happens when people spend generations being in a bubble separated from the real world. In comparison to everywhere else on earth, California is NOT normal and they do not handle problems in intelligent ways. Been living in this state for almost a decade and it never ceases to be shocking at the ridiculous level of insane and stupid things that people think is normal and ok smh
We need more of this design. I think the narrator's efforts would be better used working to solve the issue of homelessness rather than insinuating that people should give up public spaces for "tents" and "sleeping" areas. Homeless people often do not respect the property or the space of others. Perhaps, creating jobs, providing those jobs to the homeless would help. Perhaps, bringing back sanitariums would help those who do not have the capacity to work. This is not about how awful it is that people want to enjoy there spaces, but rather a government that has manufactured homelessness by taking away jobs, allowing costs to outpace earnings, and making it seem like homelessness is normal. Why was homelessness not such an issue decades ago?
I agree with a lot of what you said. Unfortunately this design makes is harder for everyone to use. You see more people than ever sleeping in bus stops. But now they're useless for everyone else.
Do you ever watch " News For Reasonable People"? Sean, the host echoes my opinion: this is not a "homeless" but much more so a "drug and mental illness" one 🙏.
@@SeanA.Skeete-wd4vi I’ll check it out! is that you? I agree mental health and drugs are a huge part of the issue.
answer to the last question, because of housing abundance, if that city wasn't stuck with fascists increasing their money numbers we would see same development as in Europe or for an actually human system we would see housing is human right approach & just build min 5 story apartments everywhere where single fam duplex or quadruplex stands now.
You don't need more of that design. You need more social housing and rehabilitation problems. And more affordable housing, not 24 empty houses bought for investment purposes for 1 homeless person.
And look at how much many goes on that design.
PS: Yes, there're still issues with homelessness in the EU, but it's not even close to the US numbers. Japan is closest to the solution. 0.003%
I’m old. But I remember a time when the homeless were run
Out of town and told to stay out.
The city has certainly 180’d on that
U call it hostile, I call it smart design. no one wants drug dealing in front of their houses.
Of course not. But the drug dealing and homeless issue is worse than ever. Whatever you call it, it isn't working.
@@AdamDoesNotExist Pretty much everything you showed in the video was new. And SF has cleaned up remarkably in the last 6-9 months. So why do you say that it isn't working?
The planters - new. The bus stops - new. The fare gates - new. The benches - new. etc. You get the picture.
Try living here with all the drug dealing and unhinged drugged up crackheads for a while then we'll see how you sing.
Imagine that you're allergic to oranges and get rush because of that. You try to make your skin look better by putting a foundation on that rush AND at the same time you continue to eat oranges and even increase the consumption.
It is a smart behavior? Hell NO. And that hostile architecture is the same. They spend a huge ammount of money to construct and install that and keep pumping housing prices up. There are 24 empty properties for 1 homeless person in the US. There is no shortage, just sheer greed.
The democrats do they don't care
@@AdamDoesNotExist The democrats don't care they seem to like it for some reason
the glass is gone because people kept breaking them...
glass companies are using them to experiment with types of glasses. Gorilla and bulletproofed glasses are now used.
Yup. Vandalism was, and still is a huge issue.
I'm in favor of this hostile architecture. I ride the bus and pay bus fare, I'd like to be able to sit at a bus bench while I wait for the bus. At my age, 57 and with my chronic disease, cancer, I'm not asking too much. Twice I've been chased by individuals that claimed the bench I'm sitting on is their home.
Thanks for your perspective. I’ve been yelled at for the same reason. Do you care to weigh in on the glass issue? Did you find bus stops any more comfortable when the back was glass?
It is their house, you live in a place without laws. It is the decline and fall of civilization.
@@AdamDoesNotExist One thing though, sad to say, folks will pee or poop in the planters. ANYTHING they'll do. 😮
Or instead of wasting money on this bs. They could ya know build them some place to call home. Or maybe even just put some more benches out.
HAHAHA! Gotta love the politicians...always a bandaid ....never the cure.
This is why people are so upset. Plus the bandaid isn't that effective.
There is no cure.They enjoyed doing their drug.They won't stop
I very much support homeless outreach, mental health, drug and alcohol treatment, job training etc. I don't however believe that anyone has a right to live on a public sidewalk and one of the worst trends we have seen is the normalization of homelessness and treating them as an oppressed minority
Well said fenian! The cowardice displayed by politicians all over the country regarding homeless bums is revolting and pathetic!!!!!!!! :( I remember reading about the prevailing attitude in San Francisco of being compassionate. Well, what about the homeless having to show accountability? :(
its the worst trend yet you all vote for people who dont care about it, left and right. homeless arent all drug addicts, and there are families who live in their vans now because the rent is too high.
What company is making money on these so-called ''improvements"? If you're homeless you sleep on concrete, or fold a jacket or shirt underneath your body for cushioning, or lean up against buildings. Are they going to remove all building also? It's just stupid, but somebody somewhere is making a bundle of money probably using taxpayer dollars.
There's a whole industry around 'rehab' etc.
There’s a lot of service providers in SF that take city money to provide those services. There isn’t much oversight into how that money is spent.
Seems more like intelligent architecture.
I believe hostile architecture can be effective when done right. In a place with few homeless, it’s an annoyance. But in a city like San Francisco, it may help keep homeless people from claiming public amenities and space as their own. It’s nowhere near a solution to the problem. The government is doing practically nothing, but I do agree that hostile architecture is a good thing when implemented properly. It’s a by-product of a crisis that shouldn’t be happening in the first place.
Also the reason that they don't have glass is because people kept breaking it. You'd have to be utterly uninformed to not realize that all the glass got broken, repeatedly, until they just stopped replacing it. They had to replace some stops dozens or hundreds of times if they wanted to keep the glass on them.
Yup. That's what I said!
Yes the aggressive homeless druggies are very hostile.
I live in a city significantly smaller than San Francisco. A few years ago , there were a group of ‘ unhoused persons ‘ living under a railroad overpass. They were routinely wandering into the street begging for change and basically being a nuisance. The city installed rocks into the concrete where they were living. I haven’t seen these ‘ unhoused people ‘ since. I don’t like being cruel to people but this city has public housing that is basically free and they refuse it. That tells me that they are either mentally I’ll or not actually homeless. Either way , sleeping outdoors is a bad idea. It can get dangerously cold here and sleeping outside in weather like that is inviting hypothermia. Now leaving someone outside to freeze to death would be cruel.
If you’re opposed to forcing homeless people indoors then ok that’s fine but some places get much colder than San Francisco and the difference between 50 F and 0 F could be a couple of toes.
Wit respect, I live in a suburban area. I would not choose to live in an urban area where people could live outside my home and obstruct walkways with their bodies and/or shelters. I must pay taxes to live in a place. I must work to provide myself with food , shelter, clothing.
Who gets to decide how much I must pay for others survival and how much less I have to provide for my own needs and wishes?
Who gets to decide and by what right how much of my income is Mine and by what authority?
Going with the Proportion of an individual's income is required for survival (need) vs. wishes (everything else), what is the proportion of the income of the people who make these decisions that I must give up what is mine for other people's use without my individual consent?
Isn't it Theft to take what belongs to someone else?
I do not see hostile architecture.
I see a futile attempt to retain control of property from those who wish to steal its use from those who pay for it.
What is the origin of authority homeless people have to do what they want , where they want and not pay for it?
How does one keep shelters safe without endless 24 hr cameras and guards and on site police?
You decide how much money goes to this by voting for the people that direct your tax dollars how you want. And if you pay any federal or state tax in the US, your money is paying for these services.
@@AdamDoesNotExist With respect, I haven't seen or heard political candidates promise " I will take your money to fund schools,maintain streets and bridges and distribute the rest as a "come one come all" endless open house for people who are not paying taxes?
With respect, that politicians are voted into office and spend tax money as is useful to them does not answer the question of authority granted to homeless people to utilize public streets that they do not maintain by their efforts nor pay to maintain as their personal property.
I can pay taxes on a commercial property that no one wishes to visit because of the refuse from and bodies that must be stepped through to access said property.
In theory it is sensible to run one's personal finances as a business by not spending more than one's income.
Taking a small percentage of that gross income to provide "for the public good" is reasonable.
How is it good business to keep increasing the expenditure until an increasing number of people start to lose the ability to provide for themselves?
Thank you for responding to my questions.
I bet we agree on more than we disagree. None of this is good business. SF wastes so much money on all of this. I completely understand why there are so many planters on the streets. But they aren't working. I saw a few people sitting on them dealing drugs. Anyone who lives in SF has seen that. It's frustrating.
@@AdamDoesNotExist A lateral problem. Theory being everything, those voted into office do what they promise as opposed to what suits them.
In the past, political platforms were promises of actions to be taken as compared to now when the political rhetoric focuses on name calling and spending tax dollars to publicize each and every social faux pas while shielding or ignoring the inadequacy of role performance.
@@AdamDoesNotExist Yes. Problem solving is a skill. As with programmers and hackers, what one person devises another can destroy or overcome.
As with some others of my generation, I have grandparents who used outhouses as children and hand pumps for water at the kitchen sink.
I am fascinated with the question of what determines the rise and fall of prosperity in families.
Non-fiction is not my daily go-to, however, I read "The Psychology of Money" by Morgan Housel recently and got "White Trash" by Nancy Isenberg from the "to sell" rack at the library and recommend them both.
Perhaps it is hardest for those such as myself whose families could have but did not fall into depths of poverty that sucked away all energy needed to continue striving.
And such musings do not solve immediate problems such as clearing streets of bodies camping out.
Acknowledging that there is no "magic" to make it all go away, what actions do you see as possible beginning partial solutions to this issue?
Thank you again for this discussion.
Historically there were wedges in corners to prevent public urination. Noise speakers to scare away loiterers. High pitch mosquito noise only young ears can hear or use cultural classical music.
Difficulty to find public restrooms when we can't have nice things. Many places around the world charge them or otherwise with top of the line free restrooms in Japan which doesn't have many homeless or addicts to begin with.
Not inhumane. Meant to be used for short periods of time - that's all.
Have you seen these design decisions reverted? Here in SF, that hasn't happened.
No one talk about preventing homelessness. Preventing homelessness cost less than that incurred to react to the problem. The estimated 7,500 homeless in SF negatively impact the $7.7 billion tourist industry. Crime, dirty streets, safety, who wants to lose their heart in San Francisco? What is it going to do to property values and the enjoyment of residence? Good governments are proactive, not reactive.
Well said!
I propose the ultimate in anti-homeless architecture: Build homes.
The seat design certainly doesn’t stop them from smoking fent at the bus stops.. now they just do it sitting up instead of laying down
First time stumbling upon your channel man. Great explainer, instant sub!
Amazing! Glad to have you here!
really good video. I saw the planters pop up over night off harrison street after they did a ‘sweep’ on tents and it was super obvious what was goin on (especially with yes, how awkward the planters look lol) I understand where people are coming from when they say this architecture is a useful preventative measure, agree there are legitimate grievances over sanitary safety too, just feel like these bandaids need a lot more backup as you mentioned, then the city has been doing. i.e. they provided plane tickets to a ton of houseless people to go to their families recently, but that taking place after the city spent $22 million on the Tenderloin’s harm reduction/drop in homelessness service center only for them to shut it down less then a year later; again (and cliche) seems like trying to clean the mirror when what’s in the mirror needs to be tended to. bonus and to add insult to injury, these harm reduction sites maybe difficult for some people to wrap their heads around, I get that, but there is plenty scientific evidence/data on how these sites are a legitimate tool for overdose prevention..
Thank you!
Great start. Keep it up and looking forward to more😊🙏.
Great video Adam.
I think is a good idea what San Francisco Goverment been doing .
I have seen many documentry/ videos about homeless in San Francisco & California.
When i was in New York i have seen Homeless / druggy around . I think California is most highest when come to homelessness people. Sad to see what is happening .
American Government they must give free place for homeless to stay in empty buildings / malls . Make more rooms .
There is certainly a lot of work to be done!
@@AdamDoesNotExist agree with you. Have a great day brother.
Hugs from Malaysia
Thanks for giving Cathenge a cameo in your "Hostile Design" video which I think is valuable information people should be aware of since, as you point out, it is often cleverly camouflaged.
My art installation, "Cathenge", is actually a paragon of "friendly design". It's a sculptural installation that provides a space where people of all kinds are welcome to gather. It's been really gratifying to see that the installation has been well respected by everyone - including homeless people. From the beginning of its display, the homeless have spent time at the installation, but I've never found any damage or problems that I could attribute specifically to the homeless. Indeed, individual homeless persons have taken time to speak with me and convey their appreciation of the art, and the space it has created. I believe that if people put more creative energy into "friendly design" there would be a lot less problems on the streets. Creating inclusive art spaces that foster community is a great approach to more friendly principles in urban planning.
I should clarify that Cathenge has not been a homeless hangout especially. That's not what I meant above. Homeless people do visit it, but they don't dominate it at all. The installation has been shared by people of all economic classes as far as I can tell, and people of all races, nationalities, and religions. I think that demonstrates that if one does make a pleasant space it doesn't mean that the homeless are just going to take it over. That hasn't happened at Cathenge at all
Cathenge is amazing! There’s a handful of things in the video that aren’t at all hostile design. They’re just there between scenes because SF has so much cool stuff to see. Thanks for your work!
I was a tourist in SF and vowed never to come back. Shockingly expensive and unsafe. Who needs that?
For the most part, this was shot downtown and near Market St. If you visit, those are the worst places to go.
When I went to college in San Francisco in 1980, the city actually put raised person-sized corrugated metal drainage pipes in some of the parks for the homeless to sleep in and be out of the weather.
Wow. A lot has changed. I believe the scale of the issue has increase quite a bit since then.
I think hostile architecture is GREAT! In fact why call it hostile? Just call it architecture. People shouldn't be camping out, doimg drugs & ruinimg a city.
You presented this sensitive subject in a well-thought-out manner. It continues to be a frustrating subject where showing sympathy can get you in trouble or anyone for that matter, versus backing the city, or residents and businesses' frustration can equally irk the other side of the argument.
Yeah it’s really frustrating for everyone. it’s easy to pass blame around but one thing is pretty clear, the statistics are getting worse.
I don't know, I think I could find a tent that fits around those planters.
You should see what they’ve done to New York City talk about nasty uncomfortable I’m elderly I need to sit waiting for bus and occasionally sit from walking. It’s a nightmare.
I've seen the new "benches" on subway platforms. I'm sorry to hear it's been difficult for you.
Never been.
To california but it's bad here in tucson arizona
I loved this video! My bf and I were just in SF and we definitely noticed the hostile architecture. I'm curious as to your thoughts on the SF cleanup for Xi Jingpin's arrival...
Thank you! That was pretty wild. A lot of people were pissed at how fast they were able to do it. The city has said for years that they're doing everything they can. But they just pushed people into other places, and today, it's basically back to the way it was before. They didn't actually solve anything.
its llike cleaning up before guests arrive at your house for a family party llol
Yes, this bothered me. The leadership finally decides to clean up for foreigners visiting, not for the taxpayers. Kinda tells me where their priorities lie.
Another day in paradise Phil Collins (1989)
Looks nice in the hostile design areas. Good for those participating! With feces & needles comes disease. Who wants any of it?! So much better w/these hostile designs.
As someone who drove in San Francisco for Lyft, I can tell you that there are almost no public facilities. So, where are the homeless to do their business?
Most of this is downtown, and on market street, where homeless populations are more common. Those are the least nice places in SF. Everything outside of downtown it much nicer.
There are almost no public restrooms for anyone.
Loved your video Adam. My great-great-grandmother lived in a tent at Kearney and Vallejo Street from 1848-1850, on Telegraph Hill. Her husband was a millwright, and blacksmith who was a member of the Bear Flag Revolt under Fremont in the Spring, and Summer of 1846. So of course it has distressed me to no end to watch what has happened to San Francisco over the last 20 years. Currently there is a massive outflow of residents of California who are heading to Red States like I did in September 1996. I had studied demographics since 1987 at that point and the handwriting was on the wall as early as 1991. When you look at the homeless situation in S.F., L.A, S.D., S.B., and Orange County one thing stands out. When politicians prioritize the homeless, drug addicts, the mentally ill, and repeat felons over the needs of the average voter blowback is inevitable. I speak not as a callous lout, but someone who has seen the problem up close in a way most people can not imagine. There has to be a balance that is equitable to everyone, yet maintains appearances and commercial enterprise. What we are witnessing will be exacerbated by AI, Robotics, and the inevitable fall of the 49 year old petrodollar. Personally, I am fully aware of where this is going, and it's not good, so buckle up.
It's incredible that you have so much history in the area. I think everyone agrees on at least one thing; the homeless situation in SF sucks. And it feels like it's getting worse, not better.
Adam I guess is the "Cash Jordan" of the West Coast. Good job 👍😊🙏.
I wish! This is clearly an amateur version of his video. Glad you enjoyed it!
wow hostile design sounds great. Why are you having a problem with it. You can't use a bus stop if there is a person sleeping there. You can't use a door if there is a person sleeping there. You can't tend a garden if there is a person sleeping there. So your saying that old people, handicapped people, children and women don't matter. Because you don't like hostile design. Mentally ill people are not sleeping on the street because they are poor. They are sleeping on the street because they can't fill out a form, clean themselves or show up anywhere on time. They can't take responsibility. And if they had an apartment they would not go there. Mentally ill people need a place. But they don't want to or can't fit in any rules. A city lives on its rules. And there in lies the rub.
I don’t think he’s saying it’s bad. He’s saying how the way they’re addressing it is inefficient and a huge waste of money. He’s capturing how nothing is working well and what ideas are being used.
Exactly! Thank you
Trying to figure out why what that shopowner did was "not ok". Also trying to figure out why it's ok to say not ok.
Assaulting people is "not ok." That's what the shopowner did with his water hose.
I admire your empathy for the unhoused, but based on the comments here, and sentiment in general, I'd say that hostile architecture is just the beginning. Next will be new legislation, and then increased enforcement staffing. Jails will be built and expanded upon, and this will be the homeless shelter of the future. I really see it going this way in the USA.
San Francisco is the most brutal city towards the unhoused and drug dependent honest people.
You missed showing all of the hostile architecture at the Church and Market Safeway where all of the concrete surfaces have bumpy metal grates on top of them! I've tried to pick up a quick sandwich and eat it outside but it's impossible! I've had to walk all the way over to Duboce Park -which isn't close - and try to find a bench! Worst thing was the very next day after the election to outlaw tents all over the place failed to pass! They were EVERYWHERE after that!
I filmed so much stuff that didn't make it in the video. Once you know to look for it, it's absolutely everywhere.
And unfortunate necessity.
Q DEUS perdoe estes seres por achar q e melhor do q os outros.
Instead of working so hard to come up with "Hostile design," why don't ya'll work to come up with solutions for the homeless? Like, provide rooms for community work? Have them work around the community like for example clean up the streets for room and board. Just be creative. It CAN be done.
You don't have to dislike what others are doing. Want you do it yourself instead of making useless comments period I think I'll take my own advice.
They don’t want to work, they are drug addicts.
@@guyarrol582 Honestly, that was very good advice. And I comment here because I don't live there (thank God), and perhaps we citizens can help each other solve these problems. Unless you are an egotistical idiotic WOKE that makes everyone shut up unless they agree with them.
There's a really interesting article about a guy called Ralph who cleans a street in the tenderloin but doesn't want housing. He's one of a kind, or course: sfstandard.com/2023/12/16/san-francisco-homeless-man-cleans-street-7-years/
Nope will never happen because they cannot take their drugs with them
To solve the homeless crisis, they should set aside land from those abandoned military bases and surplus federal properties, and as long as they are in that designated zone, they cannot be arrested for being homeless. Issue each homeless person a shipping container, provide porta toilets, running water, showers and garbage service, power and mass transit. Any belongings outside of the container is fair game to be disposed of. If the homeless person finds gainful employment and housing, then they could sell the shipping container back to the city gov't to be issued (free) to another homeless person.
That’s a really interesting idea
Open asylum and force them to get help
When a society gets too permissive, this is the inevitable result. People take things farther and farther until places become unlivable. Your permissiveness is not compassionate. It's not "live and let live". It's allowing decline until society collapses in a long slide into misery for all. Only children don't grasp that concept.
Well said!!
Exactly. None of this has solved the actual problem. It only makes it worse. Now tents are in the middle of the sidewalk, planters are on the side, and everyday citizens have to walk around them in the street.
Why not put spikes on all seats, benches, everywhere??? the homeless should go and sleep in the city hall
There's a brief shot in this video of someone sleeping on the lawn in front of City Hall. It's common!
Honestly, all I see here are a bunch of attempts at improving a very difficult situation. You're uncritically shooting down these measures without having any better alternative.
You may not care, but here we want SF to survive, which it won't if the sprawl of crime and homelessness are allowed to run their course totally unchecked.
I live in Oakland. So I share your frustration. Unfortunately none of these measures are actual solutions to the problem. They don't reduce crime or homelessness. They just make life worse for you and the homeless people that live in the city.
The solution is criminalizing the things that make your life worse; prosecuting those crimes when they occur; holding city leaders and service providers accountable for what your tax dollars pay them to do; and voting in the people that have proven they can do that.
The point of this video was to point out this design in SF. You could make a video about the solution. Sharing info like that really matters.
yes, it's the fault of people who literally have nothing, not even have a roof over their heads
@@davidvosspoor4694 You don't understand the bigger picture, do you? What happens when everyone who comes downtown to spend money is too afraid to visit? Sales tax stops being generated. Property taxes decrease because building values go down. The money used to run the current shelters and mental health programs goes away.
@@AdamDoesNotExist People who do not pay rent or own ,make life worse, put them in jail. Which is uncomfortable, people change their behavior to stay out of it.
You might like the book San Fransicko. He makes the same argument, that tough love is the best way to solve the problem, but he also points out that jails are more expensive than what's currently being done.
Good
Do you consider door locks to be hostile design, because they deter thieves?
So a war veteran who got screwed over by the government and ended up living on the streets is the same as a thief?
@@allergy5634 screwed over how?
@@robertsabharwal9787are you aware how the US treats veterans?
Being homeless isn't illegal, and everyone has a right to exist.
build 5 story houses, problem solved. but you know fascists will never agree to solve the problem they made.
So what.
if you make the city homeless friendly, you will see homeless people coming to SF all over the world. It's disaster. LOL
They already do. The city is extremely friendly to homeless people in some ways. But extremely unfriendly in others.
Hostile? Passive aggressive at best. Can you blame them though?
Thank you, Adam.
This is so, so sad.
Thanks for watching
Stop trying to make streets uncomfortable for the homeless and give them the Mental Help they need.
I’d love to see a better system for mental health care. I’d also love to see more enforcement of the laws that should best utilize that system.
@@AdamDoesNotExist A statistic I saw last year peg the number of mentally ill homeless at most 25%. The other 75% are people who work and can not afford the rents.
I believe the percentages of mentally ill, or using drugs are much higher in SF. There's a lot of overlap in those categories, and it often leads to not being able to afford rent.
Need more federal funding on mental institutions. Many can't live among society.
We have homeless family members and put them through rehab and provided housing spending over 100k of our savings. They relapsed and used apt to run drugs. Most recently I was downtown Nashville for an appt and a homeless man flashed my children and urinated on the sidewalk right in front of us. This architecture isn’t the answer, but at least it provides a way to access public areas when needed.
Controversial? Hostile? How about practical and necessary?
But unfortunately it hasn't helped
Hostile is a weaponized buzzword being implemented to get the bottom line net. Semantics.
@@watitduful You don't think these designs are hostile toward homeless people? I think they are denotatively so.
We need more prisons.
Aren't those a lot more expensive than shelters, drug programs, and mental health services?
Housing, even supportive housing, is much cheaper than prison.
Hose. Water. Cleaned her up a bit. Feel sorry the man.
If private businesses are incorporating defensive architecture then why not let them invest their money toward making their property used only for its intended purpose? Even when public transportation implements it, I’m a fan. If it stops them from hiring more private security and it helps in some way, it sounds good to me.
I’m guessing I didn’t see any homeless loitering in the video due to these implementations. Maybe also the videographer also didn’t want to tape them.
But regardless, if it helps cut down on loitering drug users, screaming naked maniacs, violent criminals, and all the variety of homeless people who would otherwise use the space for unintended purposes… then I’m all for it.
Is homelessness a problem? If so; how should it be solved? Tell us Adam.
I'm certainly not trying to solve homelessness in a 12 minute youtube video. Just trying to point out the ineffectiveness of what's been done in the city.
But if you're curious, Michael Shellenberger has proposed some interesting ideas.
I don't get up at 3am to goto work and have my money taxed so homeless people can camp outside my house/work. If you have such a bleeding heart why don't you offer up your home to these people and pay for their needs? There is a Homeless industrial Complex funding NGO's with your tax dollars that do nothing to help the homeless, infact they make more of them.
Yeah we agree. So much money is wasted through these NGOs. But unfortunately our tax dollars go to them no matter what state you live in.
Making it harder for homeless people to sleep and use the restroom does nothing to make them any less homeless, does it? Personally attacking @AdamDoesNotExist isn't addressing the issue he pointed out, nor is it doing anything about the underlying problem of homelessness.
using the word "hostile" to describe this trend that wisely discourages homeless people from monopolizing public spaces, is prejudiced. to most of the public, a homeless encampment what we'd call "hostile". it is unwise to design any public space without considering how to prevent it from being abused.
So you don't think these architectural elements are hostile? Compare these two statements: "I like to sit on this park bench" and "I have nowhere to live, so I need to sleep on this park bench."
The park bench is public infrastructure. Why is the first case privileged over the second? Why would my use of a park bench be dependent upon whether someone else approves of it?
Great idea, it should have been implented long ago
Better to spend the money giving even one person housing
Right? &%# those crazy property-owners, elderly or children attempting to use city facilities.
None of this is inhumane at all
Then make city look tacky corny ugly nasty cold weird unfriedly uncomfortable mean people are less likely go there. Duh.
You said it
Mighty Christian of them.
Someone else said the same thing.
The more "HOSTILE" the better! Kudos to San Francisco
Satan keeps bugging me about god neglecting his most vulnerable for the GOP, he is asking people to start Feeding the Hungry and House the Homeless, imagine that.
Your video is a bit biased against this architecture. Please be knowledgeable about why we have this architecture in the first place
Say more. What isn't covered in this video?
California cities are Given Billions , annually to combat Homelessness. Where is the money ? Show me how it’s helped. Good Luck. 👎🏿
lol you don’t need them. The city itself is hostile like all democratic runs
SHAME ON YOU SAN FRANCISCO
I think it's awesome.
It's not just SF, every city has this.
You homeless? And make a video on how things screw that lifestyle ?
I think you're a cry baby. But hopefully more cities will follow suit and do the same.
He's the baby, but you're calling names? Your logic escapes me.
@@ssbohio I suspect many things escape you.
@@h.e9536 Insults are not arguments in your favor.
@@ssbohio please tell me you have a life outside RUclips
It's about time ⏲️ they got smart keep the bumps moving.