What you need to know before you buy White’s Boots- 1.5 year review
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2023
- It’s taken me a year and a half instead of a year to do this review but I wanted to give these boots the review they needed and my personal opinions on the boot company. Thank you to all the new subscribers and returning subscribers. I hope everyone has a great day and we will see you on the next one.
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Pops told me that there were 3 things not to skimp on when buying - the boots you put on your feed, the food you put in your belly and the pistol you carry.
Your pops was a wise man.
you put boots on feed?
Don't forget about the bed you sleep on.
I always heard: never skimp on boot or a bed. If you not in one, you are in the other.
I like that. I've heard it as 'never skimp on the things that separate you from the ground: boots, bed, and tires'
Great review. I have had several pairs of Whites and all of them the original packer model with vibram heels and soles. The pair on my feet as I write this were last rebuilt in 1997. They sat years in my closet as I was a framer and needed flatter soles. Now I’m a Construction Superintendent, I have started wearing my old Whites again! I have another pair once owned by my elderly father. Same basic size. I’m going to have Nicks rebuild them and create a pair of Whicks! White uppers and Nicks lowers.
Hey that’s awesome man. I hope you get them done soon. I’d like to know how they turn out!
Wicks huh? Wicked!
@@kato2395I actually had JK do the rebuild. No Whicks….WhiJK doesn’t sound as cool! Haha. JK did a great job and I’ve been wearing them 6 months now!
Thank you, kind sir, for the honest review. Take care and God bless!!
Thanks, you too!
Good to hear! I bought a custom pair (feet measured in Spokane boot shop) of White’s Packers a couple years ago (custom-6E/Style 690-C). They were a BITCH to break in (60-80 hours), but are my favorite boots I’ve yet to own.
BTW-bought a pair of Frank’s custom made packers a year after my White’s & I STILL prefer the White’s Packers.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts & opinions of your White’s Packers.
Thanks for watching. Going on over 2 years now and enjoying them everyday
That same squeak developed in my White's semi-dress. I tried to work it out for over a month and the noise actually increased in frequency and volume even with continuous wear. I sent the boots back to the factory and whatever was squeaking seemed to have been repaired. What really vexed me was that was the second time I had to send that pair of boots in after having them under a year. I'd previously sent them in because a full-on crack opened up in the vamp of the left boot after only four months of daily wear. Again, the White's factory repaired them both times free of charge, but I was quite taken aback by such problems having developed after less a year and in boots I'd paid seven hundred simolinas for.
It can be a pain man. I'm sending mine in soon for its first resole and hoping the squeak gets taken care of.
I have a 7 month old pair of Whites Smokejumpers. I work general construction, demo, framing, finishing, you name it I pretty much do it. I wear my boots 24/6 and what he said is exactly correct. only problem is you give them a day break they squeak for a day...
Man it’s a pain to hear it but they sure are comfortable
You can try getting a strong hypodermic needle and stick it between the leather layers and inject a little oil to try and calm that squeak down. Glue would be too vicious for that. It does work.
Wonderful video, sir. God bless, about to pick up a pair of smokejumpers tomorrow on my first fire season.
That’s awesome! I hope they serve you well out on the fire line. Be safe out there and keep one foot in the black.
Good looking hat! Get you some Frank’s, they’re my favorite and they treat you like family. I’ve had issues with three pair of White’s and I’m not buying any more. Frank’s is currently rebuilding my Rambler’s because I couldn’t take the squeak anymore. They had about three months of wear before I had to pay Frank’s to fix them.
We’ll I here that more and more these days. I will have to break down and go buy me a pair one of these days
The squeak reminds me of that spongebob episode with the hash slinging slasher
If they squeak, they're just dry. A little oil inside the boot, and it'll go away. It will darken your socks, unfortunately. I had a pair of nicks, and although I know they use a little cloth liner between some of the layers. That boot also developed the squeak. With enough rubbing the leather will go through the cloth it might just take an extra half year or whatever. My Wesco's did something similar, and they have no cloth lining. And it took them about five years to start squeaking. Go figure. 🤷🏽
It would never affect my judgment on buying any of these brands.
I am new to your channel I had the same issue with my whites packers I sent mine back to get repaired they were rebuilt and I was not happy I have 2 pair of packers 1 for work 1 casual leather soles didn't have an issue with those I actually own 6 pair of whites 3 different styles but live them all plus 1 pair of Wesco they are very comfortable but ready for a rebuild also have 1 pair of drews they are also very good boots they should fix yours for free God bless keep the videos coming
hi D
man i haven’t seen you in a while. wow those packer boots
are really something, man the 16” boot is very interesting i guess they stop about 3-4 inches from ur knee. ya i like
the pic you chose for the soles.
thanks for sharing oh by the way thanks to you. i picked up a
couple Boker pocket knives.
your, Kevin
Hey thanks Kevin. They’re about 3 inches below the knee.
That’s awesome which knives did you get?
mine are the mp version by whites 11 months in the loud annoying squeaks sent them back they resoled them got em back 10 months later same thing they went got resoled again decided not to wear them everyday cuz i ain't sending them back a 3rd. time , had to pay duty both times my wesco's 8 years old now never a problem
How heavy are they? Would you be able to tell me the exact weight
Just pour some leather conditioner oil inside the boots and let it sit overnight. It will absorb down to the midsole and end the squeak pretty much for good.
Since I have another pair i'm breaking in I am going to try this out. thank you!
@@bustinout Did this help in the end? I would really like to know...
My Smokejumpers developed that squeak a few months in. I oiled the inside of the boots a few times. Kept wearing them and it eventually went away. Apparently this is a risk with full leather midsoles. Very annoying but still love the boots.
Yeah I can live with the squeak. The boots are great.
Not exactly. Most if not all of them put canvas in between the stacks to prevent this..
I had the same issue with some 350 cruisers. The squeak was extremely loud and obnoxious. Whites resoled them for free as they were under warranty.
I hope it fixed the problem
Like the boots, but how many head of cattle you got?
I remember your original video. I appreciate the update video. Ya one of my Whites squeak. I’ve heard it’s very common.
that still didn't stop me from getting another pair
@@bustinout ya man. With great boots it’s hard to stop at one pair.
I know man. I have a small collection of Rios. its an addiction.
I love my White’s! Be sure and show us your new pair when they come in.
They should be coming in Thursday. So if I’m on the ball we should be showing them to you on Friday morning or noon.
They’re in, if I get time I’ll try to shoot a video today and hopefully post it. I’ve made sure not to wear them to much so they’re still clean!
@@bustinout dude I know you are stoked!
@@toolsforthetask6553 man I can tell you I’m not into black boots but they’re pretty dang sweet
YOOO that vest is sick, I need the brand ASAP. Packers are super slick also. Good video. also quick question. Im a 10.5D on brannock scale same as you, did you go down half a size to a 10D for whites packer? Im looking at buying a whites packer myself.
Thanks Justin. That is a Filson surveyors vest, which is also similar to the canvas hunting vest. Unfortunately they discontinued them about 10 years ago. you can still find them on ebay every so often though. For the boots I ended up and had my foot measured and sent off to them and it still came out to be a 10.5 D which is my size. So I probably would just stay with your size.
I've noticed the squeak is from my foot twisting inside on that 11 iron insole. Only one foot does it and it's definitely from that twist in my gait on that one foot. Cotton socks seem to do better wool and it squeaks. Idc though. To comfortable.
Man that could possibly be the cause cause I natural walk a little off. that is the truth man they are comfortable, that's why I got another pair of whites.
My whites started squeaking several months ago at about a year in and haven’t stopped. It’s nigh unbearable. Nicks prevents this with a thin cloth between the insole and midsole leather, that’s where the squeak happens. I’ll be getting them resoled by Nicks probably this year some time. They’ve got a high arch wedge sole they’re testing atm, gonna go with that when it’s available.
Oh awesome. I’ll have to check that out.
@@bustinoutjust seeing this again reminded me. I poured some obenaufs oil into the boots, a decent bit, and let them soak in for a couple days. Squeak has been gone for months! Try it out
@@mr.v2828 oh man I’m trying this tomorrow for sure
@@bustinoutdid it work?
You can douse boot oil inside your boots and crevices of the midsoles. Let your boots be soaked for a day or two until the leather absorbs the oil. The squeak will go away.
How is it getting used to that really high arch last? Ive tried on some Smokejumpers, they have a different last than yours but its still really high and when I first tried them on it made me a little hesitant towards getting a pair of boots that put so much pressure on my foot arch. I have read that they break in after some time, but Im curious if its more that you just get used to it, or that it goes away once its broken in well.
It wasn't to bad getting use to them, but it was noticeable. After about a week they get to feeling better but it took almost a month to break mine in, wearing them everyday.
Not sure why but i found the boot squeak issue to be hilarious.
It’s hilarious, but also not lol
I might have missed it in the video but how long is that upper section, been thinking of ordering a custom one and that taller packer looks really nice
Those are 16 inch tops
Those boots are looking awesome after a year and a half. I have a pair of Wesco boots that squeak too. I wonder if there is a way to get rid of that. Also, I can't wait to see the new boots
Thanks Rob! They’re holding up. I’m not sure man but baby powder might work a little bit. I think the source is in the midsole and possibly to do with the leather shank. Or maybe the glue. I’m really just giving my best guess. I can’t wait for them to get here either. It’s going to be fun breaking them in.
you can rid of the squeak by buying another brand. the squeak is not acceptable
My guess would be the squeak is coming from the leather sole and mid sole rubbing together cause the glue has failed. Best way to get rid of that is to put a few nails in the sole in row in where the boots bend at your toes. That is where you get the most movement.
haha well I'm willing to try once these wait times go down.... I also got another pair of whites this weekend lol
yeah it sounds like they need to change the glue then. I've read that before but wasn't sure about nailing in the sole.
let us know with a video if the oil trick worked to get rid of the squeak!
How’s the sizing? Do they fit similarly to Doc Martens (could I be same size)? Is the recommended sizing feature on their website accurate?
the recommended sizing on the website I believe is accurate. i would go off off of that.
New sub here! Great channel and I look forward to seeing more of your videos. We have a lot of similar interests it seems. I need me a pair of them boots!
Yeah oakie! Thanks for joining! If you’re on your feet all day cutting wood like you do, you need it. Do your research and get the right boot for you, rather that’s whites, nicks, or similar boot. If you go into okc, Little Joes Boots is a Whites dealer and he will fit you.
@@bustinout right on! It would be worth the drive for an investment like that. Appreciated!
Even if you don’t get a pair of boots you can run across the street and get a good steak at Cattlemen’s
@@bustinout Nice. I used to come down there and work often. Haven't been in a while
I have had a pair of Whites packers for over 30 years old and they don't squeak at all. It might be very unfair to compare mine to yours as you have the 16" top and mine is the standard. I have no idea if that would contribute to the noise or not. I do agree that they are 16 hrs a day type of boots and mine have seen some pretty hard use. Please share your impressions of the new boots when they arrive.
Thanks JD. I don’t think the tops have anything to do with the squeak, I think it might be a quality control thing. That’s awesome that you are still wearing a 30 year old pair of boots and that just goes to show you how good they are. I will try to share my impressions as soon as I get the new boots.
@@bustinout Looking forwar to it. I was thinking that tall tops might leverage something and make it squeak but am unsure. I would hate the think that it was quality control as these are handmade USA boots.
We’ll I didn’t think about that. Makes you wonder now. Yeah it really does worry me, but in the same sense if I always wear them they don’t do it, but I also have other boots I want to wear lol
@@bustinout Your new boots might give you an opportunity to compare side by side boots.
Oh definitely. I’m hoping they don’t squeak to
I have the packers like that, 12 inches with no spur shelf. I wore out one heel pad in under 2 months in tokyo. I blame the cowboy heel shape
I think the design was more designed for people to be in a saddle, rather then to be on concrete, but they sure are comfortable on the ground everyday. I'm getting a new heal cap put on them soon at a local boot guy, just so I don't waste time sending them into whites.
@Bustin Out With D. I had steel heel strike plates added and they only lasted 2 months too. I like walking in a cowboy heel because it makes my stride like a centimeter farther each step l, but it's not worth the wear. My logger heels are thicker and lasted me the life of the boot
Yeah I got a pair of whites sawyers with the logging heel and sole on it. I'm curious to see how long they last.
So I have two ideas about the sqeak your having. 1 Moisture, one of my previous bosses only wore Smokejumpers, and I had a pair of Wesco Jobmasterss. One day they started to squeak, and he told me it was beacuse of moisture that had creeped in somewhere in the soles. At the time I was over conditioning the piss out the Jobmasters and looking back I can almost guarantee that the oils and fats of the conditioner was the culprit. That leads me to your previous video where you cleaned and conditioned your boots, I saw a similarity between how I used to do it and you in that video. I saw you put some LP on the sides of the midsole (that thick piece of veg tanned leather running form heel to toe, and visible form any angle on the x axis) and the spur shelf (also same piece of leather). The moisture, oils, and fats from the LP will creep inbetween the midsole and outsole: the midsole and the insole and could be causing the squeak. 2 Squeak pad, they might just not have a "squeak pad". All it is just really thin piece of leather or canvas tha goes inbetween insole and the midsole at the lower part of the arch twards the ball and toes. Over time these boots can develop the smallest amount of play, and two pieces of veg tanned leather rubbing against each other will squeak. Sense you are going to get them resoled soon, I would contact Whites and request a squeak pad. I had a third idea, but I lost it, it will come back to me. Anyway love your channel and hope you get that issue resovoled!
Man it’s super hard to pinpoint, I thought moisture , but it only squeaks after you don’t wear the boots for a day. I think you’re on to it with the squeak pad though. I really like that idea. If you remember that third idea I’d like to know, you seem to really know the anatomy of the boot and that helps all of us. Thanks for stopping by!
I love my Whites Cruisers I hate the squeak! I don't condition them, put on a boot dryer after every use...so I don't think it's moisture. Good luck with your new boots. Ordered a pair of bounty hunters hopefully squeak free! Thanks.
Thanks Chris. I hope your bounty hunters don't squeak either.
@@bustinout Thanks I'm currently breaking in a pair of Nick's Urban loggers natural veg double stuff. Well actually they're breaking me in very tough stout leather, It's the wax it's rock hard..
thats awesome man. I want to try me a pair of nicks packers out. These whites sawyers that I just got are surprisingly being real easy to break in.
I think it’s kinda funny because the the noise produced from the hard materials and shape of the soles/heels/arches probably produce more decibels in a hard floored enclosed space than the squeaks. You’re just broadcasting the sound of high quality leather w/ every step.
I wish that were the case. Its a squeak in the sole that is produced from friction I believe.
I have had several pairs of whites smoke jumpers working on mostly concrete and never had any of them squeak. But In the last diesel shop I worked there was younger kid that saved like 6 months to get a pare of whites smoke jumpers and his squeaked like no other almost all day every day. He actually takes to White’s a few times and sent them to them because he was so annoyed with them and we made a lot of fun of him. They said there is nothing wrong and to bad so sad.
Man that really does suck that his boot’s squeak that bad and Whites wouldn’t do anything about it. I’m glad my squeak works itself out in a work day but it sure is annoying. They really shouldn’t do that for how much we pay for them.
I took my smokejumpers to vietnam summer, oiled 'em up and they squeaked for a while.
Try to oil them I use Huberd's shoe oil works great
I’m going to get them resoled soon and I’ll have them put a squeak pad in it
I am sorry, but the squeaking footage made me laugh out loud. Thank you for your review!
Have you resoled these boots?
No, not yet. they still got some life in the soles.
Do you work in those? What kind of work if you don't mind me asking
Yes I work in these. Anything from ranch work to going out on the town. I’ve pretty much done it all in these boots from wrenching on trucks and digging holes.
Dang those look damn good for all that. Been thinking about this boot for quite a while. I've been wearing Jk's but I think I'll pull the trigger on these. Thanks
Your pringles style mustache stands out like a sore thumb.
I wore packers for years but because we ride exclusively in tough mountain country I switched to smoke jumpers.
Oh that’s pretty interesting. What stirrups are you riding with? I use oxbows, but I switched to a wide bell with the packers cause I’m not riding leather soles
@Bustin Out With D. Yup wide leather bottom stirrups here too.
I have a pair of whites roughnecks i love them
That's awesome. Any toe rub?
@@bustinout no i wear 13 ee
haha say no more
The reason they squeak is because they are all leather, like a good saddle. Cheap man made matériels don’t squeak, but they don’t last.
I know good leather boots when I wear them. The squeak is in between the leather midsole and in sole I believe and it’s causing a rather annoying squeak. It can be fixed.
Good opportunity to go to your local cobbler do a video with them.... ans put in a rubber or suede squeak stopper
haha there's only 2 places that I would even consider here and one guy is an hour away and the other is gone on his bike half the year. Probably just have to send them back to whites when I need them resoled.
Just seeing this. Yeah id be sending those to Whites to have them add some Canvas to it... Not sure why they didnt add it... @@bustinout
DOUG DIMMADOME!
Or Franks, Or JK's. Any PNW boot maker make a fine boot.
Yeah I haven’t tried any of those but I hear they make a fine boot.
My friend, you put so much effort into building a credible persona, you lost me. Because I don't believe it. You're well informed. Sell it as yourself. if that's yourself, be someone else. Love ya buddy.
...and dude, if you only have four tools to hang in the workshop pegboard, don't make it hoof knife, coping saw, double headed logging axe and a framing square. just sell it as a guy that did some research. Thank you, and I mostly enjoy your material.
That's the squeak of a man who means business at least
🤣🤣
Def take a look at Drews alot more affordable..
Yeah I considered a pair of Drews. They're a bit more affordable but I was not sure if you could get a 16 inch top with them.
Drews is incrdible and like Franks a family business. So its def worth talking to them... They have in house USA made and Mexican made boots.. @@bustinout
I notice with your walking clip... You don't pick your feet up when you walk... You slide on your feet and that's why the heal has worn down that fast.. just saying
And yes, I work 16+ a day, every day
Yeah idk why I do that. I just always clip the heals on everything I wear. I physically can’t walk flat with my toes straight lol. I’m built like a frog man 😂
@@bustinout I was in the army for a while and during BCT I had a Drill Sargeant that had one extreme pet peave... Not picking your feet up and then stepping "heel, toe"... It was insane how crazy it got...
Also, you mentioned you had a squeak problem?
Was that during the beginning or after a few months of working in them?
Because usually with any kind of boots (I've personally owned white's, jk, and nicks) after the soul starts breaking down any area that has empty space on the soul can squeak... If it's a "click" every time you step then it's usually a shank issue...
I'm a farmhand and a construction worker, if and when I have time off I'm usually in the mountains so needing boots that are going to keep up with me is extremely important, and finding what will fail on boots is something that I've accidentally have become a professional at
Dang that man would hate me. The squeak showed up about 4 months into wearing them. It’s right in the sole so I imagine when I get them resoled I’ll have them put a piece of cloth between the sole and midsole to keep it from doing it. It does however go away once you’ve worn them for a few hours, but you have to be actually working on your feet and not at a desk lol. What’s your opinion on the nicks. I’ve been thinking on getting a pair of packers from them.
@@bustinoutthe thing with nicks is that they are made well, however when it comes to nicks it's more like "those are my nice boots".. with white's I know I can beat the hell out of them and they continue to work as long as I do the normal maintenance, with nicks its almost like you have to baby them a little bit compared to the white's... For me, the last thing I want to think about is babying my equipment... If you have to baby a sledge hammer is it really even a hammer? If that makes sense... This is also coming from a guy that has owned one pair of boots from Walmart and after 2 weeks the boots fell apart
Alright that makes sense. I’m just asking all the questions before I pull the trigger on a pair
I hear all these youngsters talking about working a 16 hour day like there aren’t 8 more that could have been worked.
Calm down. I’m tired grandpa 😂.
awesome mustache sir
thank you sir.
It looks like you drag your heels, pick your heels up when you walk
Cant do that. I would look like a German WW2 officer if I walked like that.
You, sir, are no Buster Scruggs. Nice try though.
Okay… 🧐
going to church LOL