I keeping think about how I want to start homeschooling my kids when they turn 13. They don’t need calculus or advanced chemistry. But they do need to learn about credit scores and taxes as well as properly investing their money
Marissa, thank you for mentioning E.D. Hirsch. This led down a great rabbit hole for our family. We started homeschooling this year. I had a small stack of books I’d checked out of the library, one of which was “what your ____ grader needs to know”. I hadn’t read it yet, but hearing you speak made me think of that book and turns out, it was by Hirsch! We’ve now been using it to ground us in our homeschool curriculum to make sure we’re teaching enough. Thank you so much!
I’m from Canada and public education in this country is a mess, I honestly believe it’s done on purpose. A people devoid of their history are easily persuaded, and we are being persuaded of very bad ideas. Many of my friends, some of them with university educations and advanced degrees don’t know basic: civics, religions, mythology, devoid of any knowledge concerning classic- liberal arts education and it’s even worse in rudimentary studies for those without post secondary. A dumb population is more easily controlled, they can’t advocate for themselves or their interests. This definitely is not a coincidence. Education and knowledge is not just for elite people, it’s the mark of a free people. God Save the King, God Save us all! Spem Reduxit!
I’m a foreign teacher, so it’s so sad to see all these comments about homeschooling. I hope this mess will end soon, teachers will do their job and teach subjects and critical thinking, not ideology
I wonder how much of the constantly shifting sands of "new way to learn" is about enormous publishing contracts for school books? If there is ultimately a very solid, reliable, repeatable way to earn Algebra, there is no need for a whole new batch of math books for this year or years to come. BUT, come up with some "new way" to teach Algebra and there are millions of dollars to be made replacing the "old way" books. And the "child centered" learning I'm gonna make a wild guess generated a whole bunch of new books that are incorporated into the curriculum?
I have been a teacher for 22 years. My first 8 were at a private, Christian school and the last 14 have been in the public sector. I was very excited to watch this episode and then planned on recommending it to my coworkers and friends. However, your “broad stroke” statement about schools having no ladder is a generalization. Statements made such as “prior public school” or “$20,000 - $30,000” make it feel like you are categorizing and dogging all public education. I am in no way saying Texas schools are anywhere near perfect, but our public education system has Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS). Every grade and every subject has these TEKS as its ladder laying out what to teach. The two districts I’ve worked for also take great care to write and layout the curriculum that is expected to be delivered through a variety of techniques. My comments here are not to disagree with what you are saying in this video. There is a ton of good stuff in here. I would just ask you to tap the brakes a bit when making such broad stroke generalizations about education (primarily public).
Pennsylvania also has state standards that are to be taught to that serve as a ladder. Some of the schools I've been in use them to write curriculum, but almost all expect teachers to document which standards are being taught in each lesson.
Regarding Home-schooling: Well, I went to public school, and I took the S.A.T. test without any knowledge of calculus, and saw several questions which I knew I couldn't answer because each would obviously take about 10 minutes, and each required keeping track of 'intermediate results' to work-out the answer. Those were the questions that only "the geniuses" could answer, or so I thought, prior to learning calculus in college. While learning calculus, I belatedly realized that those really hard, time-consuming, S.A.T. questions were actually the easiest questions on the test. In fact, with a little bit of calculus, I could do them in my head, no pencil or paper required, in about 10 seconds ... which is about how long it took to read the question. There are lots of *YubeTube videos* on calculus. I recommend Khan Academy, but there might be even better sources.
Honestly, I am a smart person. I have tested into multiple programs for advanced learners. I am learning trigonometry in 8th grade. We have learned about how America came to be and we also learned about how America as a country has almost never been able to work together. Abe Lincoln said it himself “a house divided cannot stand” we fell down a long time ago and we are working to rebuild our nation but hate pulls us down. We need to learn things like critical race theory to be more knowledgeable about topics so we may form our own world view. We do not lower standards we raise them to the point kids give up. I’ve experienced multiple friends who have cried over a B. My friends who are happiest do get regular C’s and B’s despite being smart people because they cannot meet the standard. Knowledge is selective, one might be very good at one subject but suck at another. In the end forcing a child to be good at everything leaves a child who exceeds in nothing. The teachers do not get paid enough to teach us everything. I personally have learned a lot from my parents but I appreciate the opinions and views of my teachers more. They are educated in topics my parents aren’t despite them trying to give me knowledge on the topic. I might be misinterpreting your words. Yes the system is messed up but some topics you’ve covered seem to be covered incorrectly or with bias
See how easily an 8th-grader can be indoctrinated: "Honestly, I am a smart person. I have tested into multiple programs for advanced learners. I am learning trigonometry in 8th grade. We have learned about how America came to be and *we also learned about how America as a country has almost never been able to work together.* Abe Lincoln said it himself “a house divided cannot stand” *we fell down a long time ago and we are working to rebuild our nation but hate pulls us down.* We need to learn things like *critical race theory to be more knowledgeable about topics so we may form our own world view. We do not lower standards we raise them* to the point kids give up. I’ve experienced multiple friends who have cried over a B. My friends who are happiest do get regular C’s and B’s despite being smart people *because they cannot meet the standard.* Knowledge is selective, *one might be very good at one subject but suck at another.* In the end forcing a child to be good at everything leaves a child who exceeds in nothing. *The teachers do not get paid enough to teach us everything.* I personally have learned a lot from my parents *but I appreciate the opinions and views of my teachers more.* They are educated in topics my parents aren’t despite them trying to give me knowledge on the topic. I might be misinterpreting your words. Yes the system is messed up but *some topics you’ve covered seem to be covered incorrectly or with bias.*" All I did was put some verbiage in *bold*
@@neilanderson891 your display of my indoctrination lacks reasoning. It’s true how a house divided cannot stand and it’s true how Americans have different views henceforth the nation in whole will not work together. That doesn’t mean it won’t have points in history where humanity agrees among itself. Your highlighting of my words appreciating the word of a teacher more is lacking as I never said I wouldn’t listen to those who are not a teacher, I’d just appreciate it more. Just like one might appreciate the word of someone who has more knowledge on a topic than someone who lacks knowledge on that same topic. Also what am I indoctrinated to think? Is me advocating this person shan’t speak bias as it it is fact prove that the school system indoctrinated me to believe it’s always right? What is your true opinion? For one I could argue that sometimes being raised in religion is indoctrination because you are purely being taught this religion is right follow this and not that one may have choice to follow religion. Of course not every religious household is like that but that was the most understandable example I could think of.
@@2of.heartz - U.S. education has been dumbed-down so much that qualifying for "advanced classes" doesn't prove much of anything. According to you, your conclusion is based on what your teachers have told you, and you've placed their opinions and/or point-of-view above your parents'? Good grief, teachers are not always smarter than your parents, and teachers can be worse than dumb ideologs. Take Howard Zinn for instance. Lincoln's quote came during the Civil War, when that sentiment was not only true, but literally obvious. Hello? Think about the context of your chosen quote, which for brevity's sake, should be paired with these words: *Four score and seven years ago ... upon this continent a new nation ... conceived and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a Great Civil War, testing whether this nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated can long endure .... We are met ... but we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecreate ... etc, etc" Think again about learning that the US nearly always fails at "working together". What did you expect? Families always have disagreements, why would a neighborhood be any different, or a township, or a state, or a nation? When would any group of people be free of dissent? How should any society chose between dissenting opinions? Answer: after discussion, debate, and a vote. But discussion requires an open mind, which is something you appear to lack when you throw a wet blanket over the prospect of debate with a blind statement, "I appreciate the opinions and views of my teachers more". Two more items: (1) Public school teachers don't always know their subject matter thoroughly. (They're just required to have a Teaching certificate, whether they have a PhD, or a Master's' Degree or nothing at all.) If they don't know the answer to a question voiced in the classroom, they're likely to 'wing' it, and move on to the next topic. You don't seem to respect your parents, or the fact that they probably gave you a better life and education than they were afforded at your age. When you hold your teachers above your parents, and opine that your teachers are underpaid, these opinions sound like indoctrination. When you opine that America fell down a long time ago, and suddenly conclude that "hate" is what holds us down, thus we almost always can't work together because "A House Divided Cannot Stand", that sounds like indoctrination, which took advantage of your ignorance of US history, at both the micro level and macro level. When you endorse *Critical Race Theory* without even acknowledging which flavor you've been taught, nor it's limitations and criticisms, that truly smacks of indoctrination. When you claim, "We do not lower standards we raise them ...", then my obvious counter-question is, "How would you know?" When you say, "I’ve experienced multiple friends who have cried over a B. My friends who are happiest do get regular C’s and B’s despite being smart people because they cannot meet the standard" --> How would you know who's happiest, versus who has put-up the most convincing display? And how can you miss the ending self-contradiction within your own words? May be you're not so smart, may be you've merely been indoctrinated to think yourself as an elite, far above your parents and peers. Good luck with that attitude.
Society was worse back when everyone were religious. Not to mention that non-religious people are less likely to commit crimes. So “putting God back as the head of our society” won’t change anything for the better.
The more I hear about the education system, the more I am convinced that homeschooling is the only viable option for the foreseeable future.
I went through the public education system, now I am diagnosed with PTSD.
@@animesavedmylife3648xact same experience, man. But I have complex ptsd instead of normal ptsd
@@Outlander69 What's the worst part for you? For me it's the lack of sleep.
Gonna homeschool them in Marxism
I keeping think about how I want to start homeschooling my kids when they turn 13. They don’t need calculus or advanced chemistry. But they do need to learn about credit scores and taxes as well as properly investing their money
Depending on the state, you may want to start with kindergarten.. Unless you're OK with them teaching about sex and giving hand jobs in 2nd grade
There are tons of people and organizations ready to support you in that decision! Good luck!
Restore home economics to the school curriculum
@@miriambertram2448 The early learning formative years are critically important. Don't outsource those to the sickos in the public school system!
@@miriambertram2448 Sad, but true. Unless you have an unwoke school available to you, future kids might have to be homeschooled.
Marissa, thank you for mentioning E.D. Hirsch. This led down a great rabbit hole for our family. We started homeschooling this year. I had a small stack of books I’d checked out of the library, one of which was “what your ____ grader needs to know”. I hadn’t read it yet, but hearing you speak made me think of that book and turns out, it was by Hirsch! We’ve now been using it to ground us in our homeschool curriculum to make sure we’re teaching enough. Thank you so much!
I’m from Canada and public education in this country is a mess, I honestly believe it’s done on purpose. A people devoid of their history are easily persuaded, and we are being persuaded of very bad ideas. Many of my friends, some of them with university educations and advanced degrees don’t know basic: civics, religions, mythology, devoid of any knowledge concerning classic- liberal arts education and it’s even worse in rudimentary studies for those without post secondary. A dumb population is more easily controlled, they can’t advocate for themselves or their interests. This definitely is not a coincidence. Education and knowledge is not just for elite people, it’s the mark of a free people. God Save the King, God Save us all! Spem Reduxit!
I’m a foreign teacher, so it’s so sad to see all these comments about homeschooling. I hope this mess will end soon, teachers will do their job and teach subjects and critical thinking, not ideology
Well said
Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) will get you started!
Thank you so much for this absolutely amazing video - I truly enjoyed it and agree with everything discussed!
I wonder how much of the constantly shifting sands of "new way to learn" is about enormous publishing contracts for school books? If there is ultimately a very solid, reliable, repeatable way to earn Algebra, there is no need for a whole new batch of math books for this year or years to come. BUT, come up with some "new way" to teach Algebra and there are millions of dollars to be made replacing the "old way" books. And the "child centered" learning I'm gonna make a wild guess generated a whole bunch of new books that are incorporated into the curriculum?
I went through public education, now I am diagnosed with PTSD.
Post Traumatic Schooling Disorder?
Funding should follow the child/student no matter where they learn, homeschooling, private or public schools.
Would be nice AZ had a bill in the works, but state-level corruption apparently shut it down.
They are right.
How does one go about finding a "knowledge based" school curriculum or school as discussed in the video?
Hey would you guys reach out to destiny debates and see if they want to hash it out with Dennis? I think everyone wants this in the realm of debate
has anyone fought back to regain the 9 billion taken from education revolving around the early betsy devos hearing?
Homeschooling is the only way out of this mess! It’s sad by true!
No it’s not true
I have been a teacher for 22 years. My first 8 were at a private, Christian school and the last 14 have been in the public sector. I was very excited to watch this episode and then planned on recommending it to my coworkers and friends. However, your “broad stroke” statement about schools having no ladder is a generalization. Statements made such as “prior public school” or “$20,000 - $30,000” make it feel like you are categorizing and dogging all public education. I am in no way saying Texas schools are anywhere near perfect, but our public education system has Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS). Every grade and every subject has these TEKS as its ladder laying out what to teach. The two districts I’ve worked for also take great care to write and layout the curriculum that is expected to be delivered through a variety of techniques. My comments here are not to disagree with what you are saying in this video. There is a ton of good stuff in here. I would just ask you to tap the brakes a bit when making such broad stroke generalizations about education (primarily public).
Pennsylvania also has state standards that are to be taught to that serve as a ladder. Some of the schools I've been in use them to write curriculum, but almost all expect teachers to document which standards are being taught in each lesson.
Hmmm. I can't tell them apart. Could we get permanent name keys?
😂
Marrisa has a smaller face (a shorter head, top to bottom).
Jill has a longer face (a taller head, top to bottom).
i tough it was a joke of her interviewing her self, they could at least put different clothes!!
Regarding Home-schooling: Well, I went to public school, and I took the S.A.T. test without any knowledge of calculus, and saw several questions which I knew I couldn't answer because each would obviously take about 10 minutes, and each required keeping track of 'intermediate results' to work-out the answer. Those were the questions that only "the geniuses" could answer, or so I thought, prior to learning calculus in college.
While learning calculus, I belatedly realized that those really hard, time-consuming, S.A.T. questions were actually the easiest questions on the test. In fact, with a little bit of calculus, I could do them in my head, no pencil or paper required, in about 10 seconds ... which is about how long it took to read the question.
There are lots of *YubeTube videos* on calculus. I recommend Khan Academy, but there might be even better sources.
The public school curriculum is switching to a form of knowledge based learning, but the problem is in the knowledge being learned.
Honestly, I am a smart person. I have tested into multiple programs for advanced learners. I am learning trigonometry in 8th grade. We have learned about how America came to be and we also learned about how America as a country has almost never been able to work together. Abe Lincoln said it himself “a house divided cannot stand” we fell down a long time ago and we are working to rebuild our nation but hate pulls us down. We need to learn things like critical race theory to be more knowledgeable about topics so we may form our own world view. We do not lower standards we raise them to the point kids give up. I’ve experienced multiple friends who have cried over a B. My friends who are happiest do get regular C’s and B’s despite being smart people because they cannot meet the standard. Knowledge is selective, one might be very good at one subject but suck at another. In the end forcing a child to be good at everything leaves a child who exceeds in nothing. The teachers do not get paid enough to teach us everything. I personally have learned a lot from my parents but I appreciate the opinions and views of my teachers more. They are educated in topics my parents aren’t despite them trying to give me knowledge on the topic. I might be misinterpreting your words. Yes the system is messed up but some topics you’ve covered seem to be covered incorrectly or with bias
See how easily an 8th-grader can be indoctrinated:
"Honestly, I am a smart person. I have tested into multiple programs for advanced learners. I am learning trigonometry in 8th grade. We have learned about how America came to be and *we also learned about how America as a country has almost never been able to work together.* Abe Lincoln said it himself “a house divided cannot stand” *we fell down a long time ago and we are working to rebuild our nation but hate pulls us down.* We need to learn things like *critical race theory to be more knowledgeable about topics so we may form our own world view. We do not lower standards we raise them* to the point kids give up. I’ve experienced multiple friends who have cried over a B. My friends who are happiest do get regular C’s and B’s despite being smart people *because they cannot meet the standard.* Knowledge is selective, *one might be very good at one subject but suck at another.* In the end forcing a child to be good at everything leaves a child who exceeds in nothing. *The teachers do not get paid enough to teach us everything.* I personally have learned a lot from my parents *but I appreciate the opinions and views of my teachers more.* They are educated in topics my parents aren’t despite them trying to give me knowledge on the topic. I might be misinterpreting your words. Yes the system is messed up but *some topics you’ve covered seem to be covered incorrectly or with bias.*"
All I did was put some verbiage in *bold*
@@neilanderson891 your display of my indoctrination lacks reasoning. It’s true how a house divided cannot stand and it’s true how Americans have different views henceforth the nation in whole will not work together. That doesn’t mean it won’t have points in history where humanity agrees among itself. Your highlighting of my words appreciating the word of a teacher more is lacking as I never said I wouldn’t listen to those who are not a teacher, I’d just appreciate it more. Just like one might appreciate the word of someone who has more knowledge on a topic than someone who lacks knowledge on that same topic. Also what am I indoctrinated to think? Is me advocating this person shan’t speak bias as it it is fact prove that the school system indoctrinated me to believe it’s always right? What is your true opinion? For one I could argue that sometimes being raised in religion is indoctrination because you are purely being taught this religion is right follow this and not that one may have choice to follow religion. Of course not every religious household is like that but that was the most understandable example I could think of.
@@2of.heartz - U.S. education has been dumbed-down so much that qualifying for "advanced classes" doesn't prove much of anything. According to you, your conclusion is based on what your teachers have told you, and you've placed their opinions and/or point-of-view above your parents'? Good grief, teachers are not always smarter than your parents, and teachers can be worse than dumb ideologs. Take Howard Zinn for instance.
Lincoln's quote came during the Civil War, when that sentiment was not only true, but literally obvious. Hello? Think about the context of your chosen quote, which for brevity's sake, should be paired with these words: *Four score and seven years ago ... upon this continent a new nation ... conceived and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a Great Civil War, testing whether this nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated can long endure .... We are met ... but we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecreate ... etc, etc"
Think again about learning that the US nearly always fails at "working together". What did you expect? Families always have disagreements, why would a neighborhood be any different, or a township, or a state, or a nation? When would any group of people be free of dissent?
How should any society chose between dissenting opinions? Answer: after discussion, debate, and a vote. But discussion requires an open mind, which is something you appear to lack when you throw a wet blanket over the prospect of debate with a blind statement, "I appreciate the opinions and views of my teachers more".
Two more items: (1) Public school teachers don't always know their subject matter thoroughly. (They're just required to have a Teaching certificate, whether they have a PhD, or a Master's' Degree or nothing at all.) If they don't know the answer to a question voiced in the classroom, they're likely to 'wing' it, and move on to the next topic. You don't seem to respect your parents, or the fact that they probably gave you a better life and education than they were afforded at your age.
When you hold your teachers above your parents, and opine that your teachers are underpaid, these opinions sound like indoctrination. When you opine that America fell down a long time ago, and suddenly conclude that "hate" is what holds us down, thus we almost always can't work together because "A House Divided Cannot Stand", that sounds like indoctrination, which took advantage of your ignorance of US history, at both the micro level and macro level.
When you endorse *Critical Race Theory* without even acknowledging which flavor you've been taught, nor it's limitations and criticisms, that truly smacks of indoctrination. When you claim, "We do not lower standards we raise them ...", then my obvious counter-question is, "How would you know?"
When you say, "I’ve experienced multiple friends who have cried over a B. My friends who are happiest do get regular C’s and B’s despite being smart people because they cannot meet the standard" --> How would you know who's happiest, versus who has put-up the most convincing display? And how can you miss the ending self-contradiction within your own words?
May be you're not so smart, may be you've merely been indoctrinated to think yourself as an elite, far above your parents and peers. Good luck with that attitude.
Kids aren't wrong when they complain they won't use the stuff they learn in K-12 in the real world.
They are partly correct but mostly they are wrong
we need school choice
Also put God back as the head of our society
Society was worse back when everyone were religious. Not to mention that non-religious people are less likely to commit crimes. So “putting God back as the head of our society” won’t change anything for the better.
4th, 5 April 2023
Homeschool. Period.
Go read Asian classics