X-Mark 7615 Rotary Leg Ext/Curl Review: Better Than Titan’s???
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Today I discuss the X-Mark 7615 Rotary Leg Ext/Curl. This piece has quickly become a favorite in my home gym due to its quality and stability. If you have any questions, leave me a comment below or find me on IG at phillip_babygiantbarbell
I appreciate reviews like this. You're not collecting random pieces to review them for the sake of reviews. You are just reviewing the equipment that you actually use in your own training.
I have paid for every piece in my space so far. I put my gym together with purpose, and I like to show my experiences with the pieces. I am not saying I will not review pieces sent to me, but I will make sure I have used them enough to give an authentic take. Thanks for checking in with me man!
Almost pulled the trigger on the titan . Im glad i stumbled upon this video. Very good explanation and information on the product. You also have a very relaxing voice to listen to. Thank you.
You are very welcome, Greg. Thanks for watching
Great review! I am super impressed on how little it swings when you have it fully loaded. Looking forward for when mine is delivered.
Thanks for watching, man! Yea it is overall pretty stable. I would recommend atleast a plate on the counterweight horn for 4+ plates loaded, but I routinely use it with 4 plates without any counterweight on it. I have been very impressed with this piece for both leg extensions and hamstring curls. It is not perfect, but I really feel like it punches above its weight as a residential grade piece. Let me know what you think once you get it if you remember!
You can place a weight plate on the weight stopper so the weight arm starts a bit more up. This will give more resistance at the beginning. I saw that in another video.
Yes I have been doing that lately! Thanks for pointing that out.
I was leaning towards the Titan v2, but this review made me think twice. Seriously considering giving this one a shot. My quads arent huge, but that removable thigh pad might seal the deal for me. Thanks for the input.
Of course, man. I have really enjoyed my use of this machine. Let me know if you have any questions.
Just bought a clone of this Xmark machine - and it's AMAZING !! I can get all the ROM once you've dialled in where to set the pin, for both the leg extension and leg curl. Also i like to do the standing leg curl - played with it all day and then BAM !! My hamstrings cramped !!!! I agree with you that it's not necessary to have the stack design...i don't know why some people go to the extent of hooking it to a stack cable machine. As you said it's a ROM with a correct and nice strength to it. Hooking it up to a cable machine might make the action kinda sticky, as now it's silky smooth.
This particular design is very well made - the shin pad revolves and automatically adjusts to your leg - The rod holding the shin pad is also a very large metal tube so it shouldn't bend. I prefer to use it single legged - one leg at a time. The chair also sits quite high up - it's adjustable so you won't be kicking the front horizontal base.
One thing to watch out for is that red knob that locks into the pin wheel - it can knock into the frame if your ROM is overly extended....like if you do a standing leg curl - again just adjust accordingly and it'l lbe all right - that's the only downside to this particular machine - others have the adjustable knob designed not to get in the way. But you might not get the quality build of this machine - it's at least 12 or 11 gauge. Genuinely well built with thicker tubing.
I am super glad to hear that you have had a great experience with it as well! I was also very pleasantly surprised at how sturdy and smooth it felt when I used it for the first time. It also accommodates my larger frame well. This machine has surpassed my expectations.
@@babygiantbarbell1014 And once i've used it i agree again that it's much better to just pull the pin and remove the leg holders so you can get into the chair - i'll hate to have to slide across the entire chair just to get in all the time - especially if you're as big as u are - i think the vinyl would be worn down form all the sliding !!
@@eddielimmy4150 agreed!
And that's why I love my home gym!!!
Me too man. The freedom to do what you want is awesome
I liked how you maxed out the leg extensions and make it look like a warm up for you.Great review buddy
Thanks Kevin! I assure you it did not feel like a warmup.
The fact that it is plate loaded and not a cable weight stack for constant tension, do you find the resistance curve very easy at the bottom up to about 30 degrees and then it gets hard?
EDIT: Sorry, just realized you did address this near the end of the video haha
Lol no worries. It does not go right from easy to hard and vice versa. There is a curve there. It actually feels very natural.
Exactly, I don’t think you’d be able to get your legs into the Titan unless you modified it. There are definitely some features I like better with that model over the Titan.
Yea somebody actually commented that they felt like they had to squeeze into the Titan one at 5’8 185lb. I would’ve been in big trouble😂 this is a great machine. I will say I would prefer Titan’s upholstery. As far as function though, this piece works very well.
Great review!! Almost bought this leg extension/ leg curl machine instead of my commercial one but wanted a stack instead of plate loaded.
Thanks bro! I actually prefer the feel of this one. I feel less strain on my knees but still feel the work on my muscles. The convenience of that stack is great though.
18 min?! Big boy review!
Lol I’ve never been accused of being concise.
Great video! What are your thoughts now…still the same? Have a chance to get a used one in excellent condition for $350
Thanks for watching! I would STRONGLY recommend it at that price if it is in great condition! It has been a great machine for me. Is it a commercial grade machine? No, but it feels surprisingly substantial when using it, and it is a smooth and effective machine. I will tell you this- I got mine secondhand in good condition for $600, and I would do it again with my experience with it taken into account. I hope this helps!
@@babygiantbarbell1014 well…I picked it up today for $350 and this thing looks brand new. Even playing around with it and so far absolutely love it.
@@simmo1567 super happy to hear that you were able to pick it up. You got a steal, my friend. It is a smooth, well built machine, and I have loved mine. Glad to hear you feel the same way!
@@babygiantbarbell1014thanks again! Watched your review several times and convinced me. Take care and keep up the great content!
Absolutely stellar review. Thanks.
Thank you. Glad you liked it!
Great review! Do you still use and love machine? I'm curious what you squat in order to be able to throw around 270lbs on here? Does it just require a ton of weight to get any kind of workout or are you ridiculously strong and squat over 500lbs? I squat about 300lbs for 5-7 reps have Bells of Steel rack mounted but it gets in way of cable on Rep rack so take it down after and thus only use it on leg day and want to do more hamstring curls so considering getting this model. Always concerned about resistance curve on these type of devices.
Glad you enjoyed it! I would have demonstrated this machine differently in hindsight. I use 3-4 plates most of the time, emphasize the eccentric and use the plate on weight stopper hack that HGHR highlighted. That makes it a more even resistance curve. I routinely squat 500lb and recently did 500x4 a few weeks back (uploaded on my channel as a short for reference: ruclips.net/user/shortsR69IHchrrvw?feature=shared). You would be fine with the resistance. I really do like this machine a lot and still use it. It is not commercial grade, but it has handled my capabilities very well!
Trying to decide between this and Bulletproof isolator and building out rack to house it.@@babygiantbarbell1014
Keep coming back to this machine was between this and Bulletproof isolator but that requires me to add onto rack, buy new rack or its storage rack either way $400+ more and more of a pain. I saw one guy put a pulley on the bottom which I'm considering to add weight from my cable stack. Thanks for mentioning the 35lb hack works!@@babygiantbarbell1014
Great Review! Was planning on getting this over the Titan due to my height. I'm 6'10" and it's difficult finding equipment that works for me.
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it! Yes being that tall would definitely present its challenges. I really like that this machine has the detachable thigh rollers for hamstring curls. It feels less claustrophobic than I would imagine that floating roller on the Titan version would.
Thanks BGB. Appreciate the info man
You are very welcome man.
Very thorough review, man! Looks like a great option. Xmark is a little bit of a slept on brand in my opinion. You might have to get some calibrated plates to keep adding weight lol. Those deep dishes take up a lot of real estate!
Agree. YT reviews are stuck in the world of Titan/Rep/Rouge, which I don't find too interesting b/c much is just dictated by budget. Not sure if it is related to affiliate links or what. Coop will sometimes say nobody is making whatever, and a quick internet search or visit to a good local home gym store shows it aint true. For stuff @ a home gym store, YT reviews also don't matter so much b/c can just go try it. And aren't risking shipping damage.
Thanks bro! Yea I might need to throw my beater 45’s on it if I want to keep going up 😅. I was skeptical of this piece before I got it, but I believe in it 100% now. I also have a bit of annoyance at Titan for jacking up their prices and then running “deals”. I hate that practice.
@@briand5047 very true, Brian.
@@briand5047 Yeah, I think you're right. GGR doesn't seem to review the type of equipment you'd find in a local fitness store, especially machines.
@@babygiantbarbell1014 Titan got rid of their rewards points too. That was a big perk.
Never heard a leg extension called a quad curl in my 40 years of lifting
Guess you are not me then. Not explaining this to another person. You see my responses to this in the comment section.
@tetriseffect711 really? You think so?
Honestly I think this beats the Titan one hands down, especially with the 15OFF code. It makes the machine $696.15 which includes shipping and there is no tax. Titan has “free” shipping as well but adds tax so you’re then looking at another $50 or so. They really are neck and neck price wise so it becomes which is a better value and I think Xmark wins.
I would agree. This one also accommodates larger individuals much better from what I have seen. The removable thigh pad is great, and Titan’s is known to be pretty snug for even average sized people. Neither is perfect, but I would pick this one over Titan’s if buying one new.
what's the 15 off code?
@@GoodByeSkyHarborLive It was a special they were running at the time. Usually around Black Friday they will offer 15% off on some items and 20% off on others
Thanks for the video. It's 15% off today for President's Day sale for $612.
You are very welcome. I have used it a ton since I made this video, and I still really like it. That is not too bad of a price. I want to say I got mine used for around $600.
Does this have a stopper pin like on the Titan Fitness? I'd like to apply the same "hack" that HGHR did to his Titan machine to move the weight arm up a bit using a smaller plate on the stopper pin and increase the load and the more flexed position for quads. Thanks for the review, I was considering the Titan and this is an interesting option as well...
Thanks for watching! Yes it does have a stopper pin that is removed and installed simply by pulling it out or pushing it into the designated spot in the frame. I have personally done on this machine the weight plate hack that HGHR showcased.
@@babygiantbarbell1014 Great! Thank you for confirming, and I appreciate the quick response.
@@dysh17 you are very welcome.
Nive video. Thanks for sharing with everyone
Of course. It has been a great machine. Thanks for checking out the video.
Would u get this over bullet proof isolator? My main purpose for getting isolator is for leg work too and all the extras are good i guess
I would get this or another dedicated machine personally. The isolator seems like it works well, but it being rack mounted is a dealbreaker for me.
@@babygiantbarbell1014 yea that's what is holding me back.
12:15 how do we mitigate it a little during hamstring curls? Can you do one leg a time with the plate loaded weights being on one sided?
Others have shared hacks like putting a 25lb plate on the weight stopper and resting the plate loaded arm on the 25lb plate to start that arm resting at more of an angle. If that does not make sense, just look up home gym hacks and reviews plate loaded leg curl/ext hack. As far as using one leg at a time, yes I have done that several times with no problems. Hope that helps!
@@babygiantbarbell1014 okay I just watched that video. It was on the titan fitness version.
So for this machine it looks like for leg extensions we don't need to to do the stopper hack and can get good resistance from the start. Are we able to do that stopper hack on this machine though with just the plate hack or it requires more modifications?
@@GoodByeSkyHarborLive stopper hack works on this one the same way it does on that one. The machines have a similar mechanism.
Im going to have to save up for this or the titan alternative. I dont have anything to workout my legs except for my barbell
It is pretty nice to have!
Quad curl, what is that?
Great question! It is what I call what is more popularly known as a leg extension.
Correct
@@fernandocanto8906 Thank God my quads do not know I call them that while I do them. They might refuse to grow huh?
I think the Titan and the XMARK are essentially the same, I have equipment from both companies and in my opinion XMARK is a better company, but in this case, I went with a different company and purchased a selectorized extension / curl over plate loaded.
I completely understand that decision. IMO, selectorized is always the path if you have the space/money.
At 12:50 what you say about having resistance at the beginning portion of the exercise is the opposite of what the scientific literature says about stretch-mediated hypertrophy & lengthened partials. Also, I cringe every single time you say quad curl 😂 but other than that, great video! Keep it up!
Thanks David! Did you notice the comments discussing the plate hack to get the tension in the stretched position? That addresses the issue. You have been watching your Mike Israetel I see. Great stuff. Also, have already addressed the quad curl statement multiple times, but you addressed me respectfully so I will bite. I have over a 500lb squat and a 680lb deadlift with video proof on my channel. I lift. Others can argue and poke over nomenclature, but let me see their squats and deadlifts🤷
Thank-you for your info and comparison, I just purchased this machine based on your recommendation... (3/21/23) $653.65 total price @ check-out...
You are very welcome, Edward. I have really enjoyed mine, and I hope you enjoy yours too. That is a great price!
nice watch !!
Thanks man!
Do u guys prefer this one over the titan v2 and why?
Yes because I am 6’3 260 and have it on good authority that I would likely not even fit in the Titan version. This one has a removable thigh pad which I prefer as it feels less claustrophobic. That is just my opinion though.
I bought a used valor fitness leg curl extenstion for $160, msrp new $425. The valor looks almost identical to the xmark minus the lower leg adjustable pad. I haven't had the problems of no resistance at start of motion like others said with the Titan fitness version.
The valor fitness is cheaper even new, and better tension of movement than the Titan fitness.
That’s a great find. I have not tried the valor fitness version. Glad to hear you like it!
@@babygiantbarbell1014 I think valor fitness is just a cheaper version of the xmark just without out the chrome and lower leg adjustable pad. Everything nowdays is just made in same plants and different manufacturers stickers slapped on
How is the movement better in the Valor ?? Both the Valor and the Titan have the same basic design - using the wheel to pivot....the only thing is the valor's leg pad is fixed.
LOL gosh dang I can’t stand those ppl 😂😂 also man, this thing is a beast! So much usage out of it!!
They really grind my gears! Yes bro this piece has been simply awesome. I love it to death.
Quad curls😂
Happy Father’s Day Steve!
@@babygiantbarbell1014 I enjoyed your video. Thanks for sharing
Quad Curls 😂😂😂.
In what world do quads ever do anything other than EXTEND.
@@zachanderson9600 I live this stuff Zach😂😂😂😂 keep nitpicking terms little homie😂😂😂😂 also nice profile pic. Which one of them are you?😂😂😂😂
Your quads DO NOT curl!!!!
Ahhh….exercises have many different names. You call it what you want to though, buddy.
@@babygiantbarbell1014 Quads EXTEND your legs, like your triceps EXTEND your arms. Biceps CURL your arm like the biceps femora’s, the semitendinosus curl your leg. That’s why its called a leg EXTENSION/leg curl machine. Just thought I’d help.
@@charlescardenas5432 I appreciate the clarification for others. I said it not really thinking, and that is coming from somebody who has taken upper level anatomy classes lol. Oops. Thanks for the reminder 😁
Edit: also sorry for the late reply I just realized you replied
@@babygiantbarbell1014 Yes, anatomy classes tell you what the muscle attachments and insertions are, what nerves affect what muscles and what part of the spine the nerves are attached to. Knowing what muscles are used for what exercises usually comes from experience in training and lifting. As an old man who has studied both PT, kinesiology, am a certified personal trainer, and as an old man running my own personal training studio, I just wanted to help you out. 😁💪
While technically not correct, I absolutely love the term “quad curls.” 😁
Very unique, all around. 😎
17 min for this? You must love hearing yourself talk. Won’t help your channel none.
Thanks for watching