When do lost Golf balls not become yours anymore?
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Once I abandon the search for my ball, it becomes free game.
Agreed.
You have stated the correct answer my friend! Spot on!
Completely agree. Especially if you move on to the next hole. You’ve moved past it mentally and it’s no longer yours.
This, when the owner gives up looking for it, it's no one's.
You know it's 15' away, you just can't find it, you gave up, it's no longer yours.
When some piece of 💩 picks up my ball while it’s still in play! Just off the fairway; a little offline! Lots of golfers out there with ZERO etiquette or respect for anyone else! Join a country club, play tournaments or men’s club! At least during this time you’ll be surrounded with like minded golfers that respect one another!
i worry about people stealing my golf balls so i hide mine in the woods when i play.
I know the feeling
i've found some of those.....looking for my ball
😂
Do you play TP5’s?
Best reply ever
As soon I lost it, it has now become a "finders keepers" ball
Last month I was playing and my ball missed the green by 15 yards right. I took my wedge and putter and finish the whole and left. 2 holes later I needed my wedge and remember I left it by the green 2 holes back. I had to go back and the wedge was gone. I asked the groups behind me and they didn’t have it. After my round I waited for a bit and ask the pro shop and no one turned my wedge in. I was frustrated and believe one of the groups behind me had it and didn’t want to return it.
I think if the ball is actually printed like custom ordered printed with their name/design on, and you end up running into the owner I think it should be returned to the owner. If its just a penmark, then its finders keepers outside the 3 minute search rule.
@@TheStaniG I probably wouldn't return it. You didn't care enough to find it or keep it, then you gave up the ownership to it. Even good players lose balls once and awhile, and they know they're at risk of never getting that ball back. It's a small price to pay.
@@HurtisCammett The amount of balls I lose because I crush a 300 yard drive and cant see where it landed and its too fast for me to follow off the strike is insane. I lose like 9 balls a round this way when I play by myself, more than me hitting out of bounds. Social playing I dont want to spend 10 mins searching a 30m² area because I never saw where it landed. Usually when I play with friends they find it on the fairway rough somewhere that I didnt expect it a little further up or down than my guestimate.
I had a guy in front of me hit a half dozen OB (that I saw) and just taking provisionals and I was suspicious finding the same ball every other hole so I asked him if they were his and handed all the balls I happened to notice back. It takes next to no effort to be considerate and nice to fellow golfers, this sport is expensive enough as is.
@@TheStaniG I get what you're saying. But to tell someone hey that's my ball I believe, can I have it back. Is a little ridiculous. And if you're crushing the ball 300 yards but don't know where it landed, you should either get better glasses or club down. Someone taking your ball because you lost it and gave up on it shouldn't be their problem. It should be their gain and your loss
Its never yours. You’re renting them from the store and returning them to the community at the course lol
I support this!
When you leave the hole you lost it on you have given up the rights to it
Came here to say the same thing
Losing balls is different than clubs, because I see losing a ball as the "Leave a Penny / Take a Penny" tray at a cash register. Sometimes you gain a ball, sometimes you donate a ball, and the world remains in equilibrium.
I’ve definitely donated far more than I’ve gained. I wouldn’t call that equilibrium 😂
@@lucascollier8728 Well maybe this is more of a macro equilibrium than I thought, because I usually gain more than I lose. lol. I have been gifted some balls also, but I don't think I have bought new golf balls in 10+ years!
Bond stole Goldfinger’s ball on the 17th. But he was kind and returned it after the 18th. Proper etiquette.
I just watched That..✌️
I feel like this is the kind of conversation you have late at night after a few too many pints
Using a UV flashlight, walking the local public course over four nights, I harvested 405 balls, none of them from water, virtually all from the brush and forest along the right side of the fairways.
Holy shit you're a genius. Im going to go buy one this second.
Nah, no genius. Saw it on another yt vid. It worked.
Good idea! Might have to do the same
Golf balls are the disposable currency of the course.
It ceases to be your ball the moment you play another, I’d say.
Thats actually probably the most correct answer
What about a provisional ball?
@@jessecollingwood1002 A provisional ball is only played when a golfer thinks they can still find the original. So, i’d think the rule would still apply, the lost ball isn’t owned anymore once the next stroke is played on the provisional.
@@wowsadowsa you and your facts and logic. Get out of here …. Haha
@@jessecollingwood1002 I’ll see my way out. 😂
As soon as you abandon the ball, its over. Only exception would be if someone found it while you were playing your provisional / re-teeing. As soon as you are on the next tee box, its 100% over.
A mate of mine who I play with regularly lost his pitching wedge on a green. When he realised and returned to find it, it was gone. We checked later and it wasn't handed in to the clubhouse. Later he found a similar wedge on Facebook marketplace which he purchased. This wedge ended up being the very same wedge he lost 😂😂😂
Declare a provisional sausage roll if your pie goes missing
Haha what? Is this a proper saying?
Found ball you may keep as long as it’s not currently being played. Clubs and club covers you return. The real grey area is towels, divot tools, and ball markers
especially if those divot tools and ball markers are from somewhere cool :p
Never pick a towel up in the bushes lol
i found a driver shaft.someone stole the head too i returned it and got blamed for takin the head so mever again.
Difference is between abandonment and lost property
Lost my ball one time. A uniquely marked srixon qst Divide. Found it in my bucket at the range. Daamn right that went back in my bag
correct!
any 'real balls' become mine from the range... probably wasn't bought by the course anyway haha
We don't purposely lose our club, but we give up looking for balls.
If you leave a wedge on a green its safe to assume that it was simply forgotten but if you leave a ball on the course its probably been abandoned. That ball stops being yours the moment you decided to abandon it.
The moment you tee off the next hole from where you lost it, it’s fair game.
When I was working as a greenskeeper on a golf course I found LOTS of great balls, since I was working early in the morning before the day’s tee times started they were all in gone forever status to the previous owner. I ended up finding out my favorite ball is the yellow soccer ball pattern Callaway Chrome Soft, followed by Taylor Made TP5 Pix.
Played a round with what used to be my typical 4-some years ago. Can’t remember the hole but push my tee shot right to the edge of the deep rough. All three guys were nice enough to help look. Of course, I reiterated what ball I was playing and how it was marked. After 5 minutes, I went back and re-teed. Three holes later I’m tending the flag since I had already holed out and low and behold, here comes my ball, my mark and all, rolling towards the hole. Yes, you guessed it. One of the other guys picked up my ball and pocketed it obliviously. He was always like that! In his own little world when we played!
Immediately after, "I'll just take a drop.", is said 😂
When the conversation switched to pies, I was on my ass laughing
As the ancient philosopher Skepta once said “ when you realise she was never your girl it was just your turn “ …. He was really talking about golf balls
Your ball is not yours anymore when you and your friend hit two prefect dives in the fairway and two kids run out of the woods and steal them. True story.
I live on a private course and have no fence. I’m fine with players coming into my yard to get their ball. What bothers me is, when people take a ball from my yard that is clearly not theirs because it’s been sitting there a few days. That ball is mine!
They walk through my yard 3/4 abreast like a search and rescue team looking for a child lost in the forest. Drive through in the cart. Hit out of my yard even though there they are out of bounds, marked by white stakes, sign on the tee and indicated on the score card.
At my course, they'll pick up your ball off the fairway 🤣
I've played rounds where I've found balls in plain view on fairways, when I could see no reasonable way a golfer ahead of me could have lost it. it's almost like someone had gone around the course, hitting tee shots and leaving them.
@@kenbrown2808 it's you stealing the golf bals 🤣🤣
@@briggs7777 no, I left those, because I couldn't figure out if there was some reason they were there. I only pick them up if I find them while I'm looking for my lost ball.
Once you give up looking for the ball, whoever finds it next gets to keep it. At the end of the day, it shouldn't be someone elses job to return your golf ball to you after you've given up looking for it.
I dont worry about balls i lost cause im coming out of the woods with pockets that look like chipmunk lips.
I work on a Par 3 course, not a pitch and put, all the balls we give to visitors without equipment are found on the course. Losing a golf ball is the price you pay for playing a bad shot, the more expensive the ball, the stronger the motivation to play better golf becomes.
Abandoned property vs mistakenly left behind? Ball vs Wedge.
As soon as you play another ball is the moment your lost ball becomes part of the treasure hunt for all golfers.
Unlike how we treat our clubs, players typically would not buy one ball and expect to play the whole year using that one ball. Balls are considered "consumable", i.e., they could be come damaged so that you would dispose of it and start playing with a new one. Once you stop looking for your "lost" ball it is considered "abandoned" and therefore anyone that finds it becomes the new owner.
Unlike with the wedge, there is a conscious point at which you 'give up' on a ball. You abandon the ball as lost. You never do that with a club. You never decide... welp, it's gone.
Never thought about it with golf balls. I suck so I'll loose a box a round lol. But I definitely have forgotten my wedge and had someone give it back. I've also once forgot my wedge and the group behind me took it. Didn't try to ask my group if it was ours and did not return it to the clubhouse.
I’ve had that happen with wedges too. When I find one I check with other groups or hand it in at the proshop . Some people have no morals.
A few years ago a couple guys were arrested for going onto a course and picking up balls from a pond. They could only be charged with trespassing because the golf course couldn't establish that the balls were their property because they were never in their physical possession nor were they purchased by the course.
when I find a ball, it has to go in the bag for a couple of weeks to tame it. Found balls are always looking to get back into the wild if you play with them in the same round.
You guys don't spend enough time looking for your ball in the trees. A couple of weeks back i hit an errant shot into the woods, walked back out with 7 balls and my original ball, no other players in the area so no need to leave them behind. Finished the hole and then played the rest of the round with found balls. In the end i lost non of my balls and gained a few extra from what was left of the found balls at the end. The best part is that the ball i was originally playing with i had found a few days earlier, so really i used none of my own balls in that round. Then of course there are days where i can play my own balls and lose several, they now belong to the next golfer.
It is the great circle of errant golf shots, you win some and you lose some.
Pro V1s are the ball most vulnerable to being “lost”. A ball driven onto a parallel fairway often vanishes by the time we get to the spot where it is likely to be. If it is some less desirable brand ball, we seldom lose those. Ask the golfers on the other hole and they haven’t seen it!
Golf balls are like a forward trade. You lose one, you find one.
Ive bought many of my marked golf balls back from local caddies. Even on the same hole where I gave up and the caddie finds it, I pay him for it. Once you give up searching, its not yours anymore.. it's then finders keepers.
I always look in the edges of woods and grab as many balls as I find. Saved so much money on balls just to hit.
Have been playing a pro v that I found with the name “Neil” stamped on the side. Ball has served me extremely well. If I were ever to stumble across Neil out there on the course, he’d 100% get that ball back with a thank you.
You never intentionally leave a wedge behind on the green. So the expectation for it to be returned is high. When you give up on the search for a lost ball you are effectively intentionally leaving it behind which in my opinion removes your ownership at that moment.
The ball leaves the course, the ball comes back to the course, and thus the cycle repeats
If you want a rule it should be that once a player has teed off on the next hole, any ball(s) they have lost at the previous hole is now free for anyone to pick up.
If you walk away from a ball and consider it lost….it’s lost to the course….no matter what is printed or written on it. If anyone wants to try and repatriate it with the owner….that’s up to them. Losing something by accident, leaving a club by a green, falls under normal rules of ownership and repatriation.
As soon as you stop looking for it, its anyone's ball. I've lost more than I've found - win some, lose some.
Just today, some walkers stole my matte yellow maxfli….IN MY OWN FAIRWAY!!! They hit their ball into my fairway, walked over to hit theirs and totally took mine
I love the question about if its actually labeled. I played in an outing, found a lost ball from the group in front of me that said something like "If found return to Blue Team," I finished my round with it, played pretty well, and then tossed it back to the group in front of me when I was done with it 😅
With disk golf it's common to put your name and number on the disk. I call the owners when I find them. Also the disc golf course near me has a drop box for found disks that the local shop takes to their lost and found. It would be interesting to have your name and number printed on balls and see how many come back to you, but I bet it would be low, or not worth meeting up for.
Once you give up the search, you give up the claim, in my opinion. If you find a proV1, you're not hunting down the guy who lost it, you're tossing it in your pocket for the next hole. And that's fine. We all hit bad shots and good shots. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. A couple bucks one way or another isn't gonna kill ya. If you end a round with +/- the same amount of balls you started with, that's a good round. Beats workin.
As soon as you lose sight of it 🤣 it's pretty much anyone's.
The hours in my head I've had this debate is worrying...
Played with a mate, 5-handicapper, (many decades ago). First hole was a blind drive over a crest. He smashed one down the middle of the fairway as usual. At the top of the crest, he saw his ball wasn't where he expected, but noticed a wee git sprinting to the woods at the side. Pulling out his driver and an old ball, he smashed it in the git's direction. Hit him on the back of the thigh. He chucked the stolen ball back over his head and scarpered (hirpled) into the undergrowth.
If you lose a golf ball in the water it is instantly not yours anymore. If somebody from your group finds your golf ball on the course than it is still yours. I think if you lose a golf ball and leave the golf course the ball is usually lost for ever.
I've looked for my pie for three minutes and its gone 😂😂
I’m so bad at golf I judge a round by golf balls lost vs golf balls found😂😂😂
This whole discussion is nuts!! Once a person loses a ball, or fails to locate a ball, it’s gone. Any expectation of a found ball being returned to the original owner is unrealistic!
Rick, a ball's a ball mate, lost or found..! My game is so random I'm over the moon when I find any type of ball because I've lost that many..🤣🤣
Its no longer your ball once it ends up in my bag 😂
In my opinion, once it’s “lost” and you move on and grab another ball, you’ve abandoned it. Fair game for anyone else. Now if you’re a nice lad, and choose to return it great! But you shouldn’t be expected to.
IMO a lost golf ball or abandoned golf ball on the golf course becomes another person's opportunity to find, use and or keep.
I think once it's gone it's gone. If a friend finds it and knows it's yours it would be nice to get back and you just gotta take the win lol.
There is uk case law that concluded that a lost ball is considered abandoned, but then become the property of the course owners, so technically keeping a found ball is theft.
I got gifted golf balls by my sister in law and she put a picture of my face on them. Multiple times in the season I would end up on the first teebox at my homeclub and I'd play with people I knew who found them later and gave them back right away. Somtimes with members I didn't know I'd see them double take at me closely then reach in their bag hold up a ball at which point I'd piece it together and ask if they happened to have found a a ball with my face on it. Led to lots of funny interactions.
I started buying Calloway Superhot Bold, after playing one I'd found. so lost and found golf ball conventions can benefit people.
and my record was a time a mate's vehicle quit running next to a golf course, and I agreed to mind it for him until the tow arrived. while I was waiting, I puttered around, and ended up finding a dozen balls people had hit off the course, and across the road.
Last month I was randomly paired on the first tee with three other golfers, whom I did not know. We got along very well. I play with a specific brand, marked in a specific way in red. On hole 14, one of the players called over to me that he thought he found one of my balls. My brand, my distinctive marking in red. I said that I had lost a ball in that area three days earlier and confirmed it was my ball. He nodded, stuck it in his pocket, and walked back to his cart! Left me with my mouth wide open. I now laugh about it and it make a great story.
Your home course has a bin in the clubhouse that has the lost balls that the grounds crew find during their work day, for sale for $1 each. You start looking through to see if there is anything worth buying, and see a ball or two with your distinct mark on them. Do you buy the same ball(s) again?
why would you? it obviously doesn't do what you want it to.
If you wouldn't buy them back, do you think you have a claim to the shop to return them for free?
Maybe you could ask to switch them to balls you did find but are not your balls. You could offer to give two (or maybe three) balls you found to one ball you lost. That's win win I guess
It's still mine. I write my social # on each ball so it can be identified and returned to me!
That'd be a way to accidentally spend a lot more money on golf
Consumable (balls, tees, etc): let it go.
Non-permanent (clubs, bags, etc): give it back
The reason I use 'second hand' balls 😂
If another player isn't anywhere around you can pick it up. If a group is coming up or down, don't pick it up.
if you play golf you know.. if you cant find it fast then its gone.and it doesnt really matter because you find some that arent yours also. so sometimes you lose em and sometimes you find em.
I have a funny story that can go along with this topic…
When I get to play nicer courses, or courses with history I ALWAYS buy a ball marker. Here in the US, in the state of Alabama, there is what’s called the “Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail”. I hope to play all of the courses on the trail and buy a ball marker from each one, but to date I have only played one of them.
I was using my ball marker from the Oxmoor Valley course during a round at one of my local courses (central FL). After finishing the round I was in the parking lot with my friends, packing my golf bag up when to my horror I couldn’t find my ball marker!
I’m not the most religious about using a ball marker, and so the last place I remembered using it was on the 16th green. I still don’t know how I lost it. I’m assuming it dropped out of my pocket. I looked and saw the group behind us was coming off the 18th green and I went to ask them if they had seen my “blue and white poker chip ball marker from the Oxmoore Valley course on the Robert Trent Jones golf trail”
I put it in quotes because I was specific and wanted to be sure they didn’t just brush me off and drive away. The guy I was speaking to immediately said “we haven’t seen a ball marker. Sorry”
I pressed them a bit, not necessarily believing them to be lying but just because I didn’t like how quickly he had answered.
So I asked “are you sure? It’s a big poker chip style ball marker”
The same guy then asked me “what’s one the sides of it?”
I immediately told him “a silhouette of the state of Alabama and the logo for the golf trail”
The same guy who told me they had not seen a ball marker then reached into his pocket and pulled out my ball marker to give it back!
This guy was going to not only take this ball marker in spite of the owner coming to search for it, but then tried to lie to me about it afterwards!
8:06 If you lose a pie on a golf course you're actually allowed a little bit longer than the standard 3 minutes to look for it, I think its about 3.1415 minutes..
I’ve just started playing golf about 2 years ago and only ever purchased balls 2 times. 😂
In disc golf we all write our phone numbers on discs. Its generally accepted that the disc still belongs to the person who lost it as long as their name and number are on it. That doesnt stop some people from stealing them though.
In disc golf that’s a little different. That’s more like losing a club than a ball.
@@jordanharrison8769 I definitely don't disagree. They're also worth more. A disc is usually somewhere between 18-25 dollars too.
Thus, there is more of an effort made to getting them back to their owners. Especially since discs are known to beat in which causes them to fly differently.
I think if the ball is actually printed like custom ordered printed with their name/design on, and you end up running into the owner I think it should be returned to the owner. If its just a penmark, then its finders keepers outside the 3 minute search rule.
I have a buddy and he and I both have our initials on our Titleist golf balls and we have returned them to each other when found. It has been humorous with the stories of where we found it.
Once you leave the course, they're no longer yours to claim.
As soon as you give up the search, it's not yours anymore.
I think once you give up on it, it becomes up for grabs.
I was practicing on my local P&P and saw someone else practicing. I found his TP5 and gave it back to him, he couldn't believe it. I realised from his reaction that he fully expected me to keep it.
It’s fair game as soon as I decide I’m not gonna play it anymore. If someone in my group finds it when we’re on the same hole, sure it would be nice to have it returned to me. But after I’ve abandoned it, whack away Jim.
When I lived in the midwest you'd find more Pro-V1's than any other ball. Probably as many of them than all other balls combined except for Callaway. Since I didn't use them I generally traded them to people that found Callaways. Win, win for both.
I live in the Midwest.... and prov1 are almost NEVER found. This year alone I've found roughly 500 balls so far... maybe 5 of them were prov1's....
Got paired up with a single this week, on a par 3, I could not find my ball, I see the guy pick up a ball and pocket it. It was my ball, I bet he was bummed he didn't get a free pro v. Kind of funny.
I hit a shot and watched an old lady walk over and pick it up, get in her cart, and haul ass. The next day a guy did the same thing. I was like, "WTF?" Then the next day a guy was walking to mine and I was like, "Oh no! Not again!" So, I start driving as fast as I can over to it and the guy picked up a different ball and walked off.
My wife says that I have Lost Ball PTSD now.
Once you walk away from a lost ball, it becomes whoever finds it keeps it :)
The 3 Min rule is the rule. The ball is lost. If after the round you want to go back and look for your ball it can become yours again but if someone else find a lost ball its finders keepers.
Legally, at least in australia, (according to the criminal law class i did) once you've stopped searching for the ball it becomes the property of the club. The relevant case i cant recall but was about people diving for golf balls in a course lake and being charged with theft, and the court determined the balls were the golf courses.
So if you declare your golfball lost it becomes property of the club. If a player in a group after you finds that ball that player has to give the ball to the club? And if that player plays with that ball that player is a thief?
As soon as you give up looking for it and take that drop you’ve lost all claim, you gave up on that ball you left that relationship and moved on can’t blame the next man for finding a gem in the rough and giving it a go
When you leave the hole you lost it on to move onto the next hole.. at that point its fair to say you abandoned any hope of retrieval and moved on with your life.
Had some pro v’s with a logo from a tournament. One day a friend of mine show me one of them. Asked him where did he get them , he bought them from a caddy. Tried to give them back to me (didn’t care actually, finders keeper)
The way i see it, it stops being your ball as soon as you stop looking for it.
Have the discussion from the "finders" perspective. We ALL love searching for our ball and stumbling across a worthy keeper for the bag.
As soon as you stop looking for it you are relinquishing ownership. A donation to the course.
Or if it goes in the pond it’s “water tax”
Once you give up looking for a ball, its no longer yours. A club is no longer yours only if it has sat in the lost and found for a month.
If you lose a ball in a bad shot and you move on to the next hole…it’s finders keepers.
We need serial numbers on golf balls 😂