Why Inoperative Plane Sensors Can Leave Pilots Helpless
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2015
- When frozen water causes XL Airways Germany Flight 888 sensors to malfunction, the investigators point to an unlikely source: the cleaning crew.
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When a plane is about to stall
Smithsonian: "Its Brighter Here"
MCAS’ older brother
Lol yea
:l
MCAS' is not a brother at all
Lol yea
If it's Boeing I'm not going
So pretty much because they were too lazy to clean it with a cloth, they all died
BuckyBoi second degree murder
@@flyinglukas673 lol no
No it got frozen in air while going up I watched full ep
No lol
Wow
Trial and error. 'Well, NOW we know we're not supposed to do it THAT WAY.'
The reason why planes are so safe is because every time a crash happens they make sure it cannot happen again in the same manner.
The pilots trusted the plane but"DID THE PLANE TRUST THEM"
Nah, the plane was chill and trust *NO ONE*
YES! the plane did trust them NOT to put it into a stall. last mistake it ever did. ;)
Lol no
It is a bewildering feeling that the people of Flight 888 have died so that this scenario never happens again and we get to live. Our lives are indirectly debted to those who died that day.
Ironically (on NZST) this happened the same day in history as the Erebus plane crash.
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Airbus*
Mordi Er Feit *Erebus. It is a mountain.
almost exactly 39 years later.
Giordan Diodato add 30 to that
I need to stop watching these videos.
Alden same
Same
Same here
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sameeeeee
You would think with all of the tech we have we would employ redundant sensor systems two being different tech all together
You would think with all the tech we have we wouldn't be still relying on a system whose components and operation have hardly changed since the days of the DC-3 in order to drive critical flight instruments.
They are not used to drive critical flight instruments.
There are redundant systems to show the aircraft attitude.
Airbus usually has a protection to prevent stalling since it restricts the pilots movement despite the pilots inputs if it determines that they are unsafe. Due to the sensor freeze it couldn't calculate whether the aircraft had a dangerouse attitude. It still gave the warning but there was no automation to save the plane. It was all left to the pilots.
These tests are usually done at 11000ft or something. Where the air is dense enough to quickly recover and where there is enough wiggle room because you will not hit the ground right away.
But they were not allowed to fly that high and decided to do the test at 4000ft. They also waited for the automation and expected it to kick in but it never did.
If they had expected less from the automation they could have easily saved the plane. If they had been at 11000ft they could have easily saved the plane. But not at 4000ft and not if you wait for something to save you that never comes.
Ultimately it was bad decision making to pilots that left themselves without any redundant system (stall warning was ignored because they wanted to stall, artifical horizon was ignored because they knew exactly where the plane was and wanted to stall, wiggle room was not there, they needed the stall protection to kick in). The only thing that could have saved them was the functionality of the stall protection.
Good airmanship is to never leave yourself dependant on a single system.
This is important information. Thank you.
What? How?
Plane sensors: dick, fuck, shit!
Pilots: well were doomed
No matter how nice of a day it is .. it's always freezing cold 30-40 thousand feet above us🤔
Yeah bc that is far away from the core of the earth
@@rayjiii4947 the surface... Thinner air won't hold heat as well.
Wow, what a great narrator voice!
that's air new Zealand my country
It even says new Zealand on the paint
Yes it was a air New Zealand plane crash
Sqq da dude no. It's air new Zealand. XL leased the plane from air new Zealand
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XL_Airways_Germany_Flight_888T
XL Airways Germany Flight 888T(GXL888T)[1] was an Airbus A320 which crashed into the Mediterranean Sea, 7 km off Canet-en-Roussillon on the French coast, close to the Spanish border, on 27 November 2008.[2] The aircraft was on a flight test (or "acceptance flight") for which it had taken off from Perpignan - Rivesaltes Airport, made an overflight of Gaillac and was flying back to Perpignan Airport, doing an approach over the sea. The flight took place immediately following light maintenance and repainting to Air New Zealand livery on the aircraft; done in preparation for its transfer from XL Airways Germany, which had been leasing it, to Air New Zealand, the owner.
Congrats
Would AOA heat not have kept it from freezing? Or even boiled off the water? Those guys get HOT with heat on.
How come those sensors aren't waterproof?
Does anyone tell me why heater of the AOA sensor was not working at that height altitude?
I watched these on a plane before taking off.
Well, how was the flight brooooo?
Oof
Fyi I’m dead now so yeah oof
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@@EllaGP22 How's that like?
Worker:yep that will do
They should have had plane intuitives instead of plane sensors.
Maintenance issue
I liked the old livery more than the new air nz livery
this is just like the problem with the 737 max but the 737 max 8 sensors would make the plane go down but this made the plane go up
Angle of attack sensors cause so many accidents
30 yrs ago with the first generation auto pilot, I expect that next generation auto pilot or its computers will be so advance, but it turns out its like a Terminator computers with only one clear purpose...to destroy humans. I think the manufacturers subcontractirs were infiltrated by extremist and sabotage any parts of the aircraft they're working, like these faulty clearly substandard sensors. Let me borrow a phrase from the movie "Armageddon" "We are sitting in a plane with 3000 moving parts, built by the lowest bidder, makes us feel good does'nt it ?"
" we need to take a look at these sensors " said inspector Clouseau...
The sensors should be heated 🤷♂️
Actually they need extra sensors which would reflect how well the actual sensors are functioning. That's sensors of plane's sensors.
@@ayoubmerzak1733 You mean like a redundant sensor so each sensor can check on the other?
VinceThe1 not exactly what I meant. What I meant by that is to have extra sensors whose job is to monitor the plane‘s sensors, since the pilots have a blind faith on the plane‘s sensors there should be some kind of mechanism that keeps checking on how the well being of those sensors is.
@@ayoubmerzak1733 The only way to know if the sensor is telling the truth is to have another sensor like it and see if the readings match up. Either way they should be heated because both could freeze and again give similarly wrong data. A good backup for altitude is always GPS, since it's accurate enough to know if the sensor(s) are too far from actual.
But they tried the test at 5000 feet???
Ay air new zealand shout out to new zealanders
Maybe but I’m getting completely confused
What is the plane called I’m trynna buy it
Planes cost more than 10 million you can't just buy them
Funny how there using Air new zealand instead of the actually livery
Uhh I have a big trip to Hawaii soon I really need to stop watching these
Air New Zealand to XL airways Germany flight 888
These sensors bullshit need to be revamped! This shit fails all the time.
3:09 invalid cockpit
who else watching all these videos before a flight lol
Hi
It pull up to much so it crashed
what?
hai ly the pilots were doing a stall test and were expecting the plane to pull itself out of the stall but it didn't so they crashed
A plane crashes because someone was too lazy to follow proper protocol?
if the plane stalled and they gave it max power. is it possible if you use reverse thrusters so you slow down a bit . would it reverse a bit? so that you can pitch the plane down wards would it help???
U can’t use reverse thrust while in the air but in ground u can
Kris Dacua
The A320 has relaxed stability, so it's pointless making a nosedive.
I am a a320 pilot
Do these videos really help you?
too much automation
What if instead of that expensive mechanical equipment for the sensors,why not use a circular cup of water filled half way,if they go to the left, the water slides to the left and same with right and any direction
What the fuck
That only works in a stationary plane. When the plane is moving, particularly when it is changing speed and direction, forces are introduced that distort the results. Simplest example: When a plane is accelerating, the water would rush to the edge of the cup closest to the back of the plane--the exact same thing it would do if the plane were pitched up. You couldn't tell the difference.
Embraer brasilia crash
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They gonna stop being lazy
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no no no
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This is Bullshit, there's no reason that there's Not a Backup System in case of a Sensor Malfunction. 😡
Are you an expert? No. So let the professionals do their jobs.
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Riot Master What’s no?!
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Lol dude you’re just as bad as him. You’re at the bottom of the hierarchy of the internet: the cringy freak-out child who tries to look savage but ends up replacing his words with emojis.
58th?
« Measure the position” come on Smithsonian you can do better...
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Fuck u
Fuck you
Bitch that's why you don't have one
Get roasted kid xD what a come back bro
Thx :D
All these new zealenders must be stupid they crash a lot!!!!
Remove that profile picture
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