Maxxarcade Ok, yesterday i got one for free with the original heatsink and i/o shield, but i don't have one of those power supply adapters :( Great video as always :)
+the mre nerd Can you send me a pic of the board? I'm curious what the heatsink looks like. I actually have two of these boards with CPU's, RAM and power adapters, but only one homemade heatsink.
There is a program called slim drivers free that updates and installs drivers without having to pay just be careful during the installer for no crapware
You can get a 3rd party cpu cooler for pretty cheap that has the spring screws and larger plate... New boards dont support 1394 anymore because no one uses it anymore for practical applications, It's all USB 2.0 and soon to be 3.0/3.1 Windows 10 is full of spyware and forced bloatware.
Not much bloat as far as I can see. Windows 7 is going down hill since the release of 10, some weird patches which apparently include telemetry. Unsure how accurate that is, but worth researching if you're still using 7.
Craig McLellan Well Microsoft is being too skeezy with windows 10 for me to be comfortable with it anywhere close to my network. Forced updates, offloading data to a cloud server for god knows who to look at, nag ware..
*Danger!* Falling book of incoming commentary! That case sure has been around the block a few times! Considering the twin fans in the front, would it really need a rear fan? 40% tougher likely does refer to a cheap and junky case that would fold flat upon being used as a chair. As for "quad cord"...well, I've never seen a single unit quad-redundant power supply, though perhaps they exist. That'd have to be the most cramped power supply casing ever! I'd have probably gone for a Core i3 or lower end i5 rather than the Pentium G3258. The G3258 does seem to get some very good reviews, and all of the contemporary Pentium branded CPUs do seem to be pretty good stuff. I certainly wasn't unhappy with a Pentium G2020 CPU, although I did trade it in about a year later for a Core i5 3330 just to get better playability in Rigs of Rods. I absolutely *despise* those plastic pushpin cooler mounts. I'm not sure why they are even still around. I think there are still a few x-plates and similar around, but they're hard to find and surprisingly expensive. And as for metal I/O shield fingers obstructing ports, I wouldn't know anything about that. It was always the Ethernet port getting blocked for me. Around the S478 era, Dell used a metal mesh in some of their I/O shields that wasn't too unlike what Asus included with that board. It was nice of Asus to include PS/2 ports and headers for serial and parallel. Now all you need are a set of port breakouts from an old ISA multi-I/O card! Those Nuvoton LPCIO chips have floppy disk controller logic, and while I suppose almost nobody would ever use it in this day and age, it would have been nice to see Asus bring that out on the board as well. It wouldn't have cost them anything meaningful. I know the agony of having to wait before a new and exciting system can be powered up, tested out and put into service. There definitely has been a degradation in the performance of Windows Update on Windows 7 (and sometimes even Windows 8/8.1 as well) when it first goes out to find updates on a clean installation. I think the cause is twofold: the memory leak bug in TrustedInstaller and the ever increasing number of updates that are landing in the catalog. I've seen a few fresh Windows XP installations skip over their 30 day activation grace period. Later versions of the .NET Framework installer check with Microsoft for the latest updates. If Windows Update hasn't finished downloading and processing its catalog, this will take forever. A system I upgraded to Windows 7 a few months ago spent the better part of an afternoon doing this. By comparison, a Pentium III (450 MHz) system I was diddling around recently was pulling around 35 watts from the power outlet. :-P We live in such amazing times when a modern system can get so much more use out of the energy consumed and idle itself down to such an extent. What was the system's energy use when you had that 4K video playing? I don't have a display that can resolve 4K, and at my connection speed the point of doing so would be completely moot. And while I'm sure it's very old fashioned at this point, I still don't watch anything on RUclips in HD (even though 720p is very attainable). Whew! I think that about covers everything. Now if only RUclips hadn't put a block on copying and pasting everything I'd written. Even as fast as I type...what a pain! (I suppose that's a hint to shorten my commentary significantly.)
I know this comment is a year old and you've probably figured this out already, but for those who are reading and don't know Microsoft has patched the issue with the Windows Update taking ages on Windows 7, however you do need to manually install KB3020369 and KB3172605. And also, Asrock has used a similar Nuvoton chip on their Z77 Extreme6 board and actually used the floppy header, pretty surprising being a fairly high end board. I have one myself with an i7-3770, and I must say while the feature set and aesthetic of the board is excellent it's certainly not very reliable.
Windows 10 updater is based after Synaptic Package manager just wonder if apt-get update will work under windows, there is an update for Windows 10 that actually installs UBUNTU Linux into Windows 10 and means that you can use UBUNTU directly from Windows 10 and you don't need a virtual box program any more.
That computer is almost too fast for Windows 7 anyway (it couldn't even finish the boot animation). Being a chubbier system, Windows 10 is probably the better choice, even if its stock theme is mind-numbingly ugly.
***** I don't know for sure, but it might be a little bit slimmer than Windows 10 and still almost as ugly. Best bet is to give the computer a bloated system so that it has a good idle load and something to chew on while booting up, and 10 does just that.
LOL "This paper may contain bullshi..." *Edits it out* Right about 20:00, I would expect the DVD Drive to be jet-like. I tried watching one of your vids in 4k, it stuttered on mine, too! I still think 4k is just a little overkill, though I might invest in a 4k camera down the road.
+Maxxarcade My computer has no problems playing back 4k (Although I don't have a 4K monitor) But my internet is waaayyy too slow to stream 4k efficiently.
The thing with the fast activation period was expired so quickly because the mainboard was on some old date from the factory. So after the install you probably corrected the date or it did it on itself someway :)
I think Windows 8.1 automatically installs drivers too if it's connected to the internet. The Windows Vista and 7 "search automatically for updated driver software" has always been broken and never worked, at least in my experience. When i install Windows 7, i get isos from this Gen2 guy or getintopc, they have all the latest updates already installed, and i just use my key to activate it automatically.
i love you seeing building computers.. Its taking so long to see a new Video from you. Thats the only "bad" part of Maxxarcade. And ye, i know every computer comes from your own money.
Make sure win 10 runs properly my upgrade stuffed everything up could not print,update or even run games!! Clean install has fixed the issue now! 1 thing i hate is Windows 10s big brother tracking
Have Microsoft really "broken" Windows Update on 7 as well? :-/ I thought it was bad enough that they did it on Vista, guess they're REALLY pushing Windows 10. I thought support for 7 and even Vista hasn't ended yet?
+RWL2012 I had the most problems with Windows Update on 7 corrupting itself and no matter what I would do it would never be fixed. That issue forced me to upgrade to Windows 8 Pro in November 2012, since I didn't have any 7 install media lol
Jordan Woolery - 8 is eww haha WIN2K3R2 - you'd be surprised... my (non-techy) best friend on his old laptop which he still uses for certain things because the technician he knows personally merely cleaned up the existing installation, and everyone in my mum's (poor compared to the rest of the university) department except her because they didn't complain about it (and their computer) for 3 years!
You wouldn't have had those problems with Windows 7 if: - Microsoft released another Service Pack for it. (To prevent installing billions of updates) - Microsoft finally fixed the Windows Update issues relating to svchost.exe (I mean, really. C'mon) - Asus used simple driver installers, like in times past. (There was really nothing wrong with that)
That unknow driver is most likely intel management engine go to intels site and get the newest version for your os that's normally the cause if windows wont download it or dont recognize it
the last few times I've installed Windows 7 I've run into similar problems with Windows Update. somehow I feel like it has something to do with Windows Update trying to download Windows 10 in the background, as if Microsoft gave that update priority over all the others. It's super frustrating because Windows 7 is still preferred for some uses.
Hi Max! Had a little question for you, if you don't mind. My build is composed of an AMD A10-7700K 3.4ghz quad core processor, 16gb of DDR3 ram, a standard gigabyte ATX board. So I recently upgraded from onboard graphics to a Radeon R9 380 card, 2gb. My question is, is my 500 watt power supply sufficient for this build? According to website calculators, I'm barely above the recommended wattage. Thanks for your time!
You probably want to enable XMP memory support to get the correct trimmings and memory speed out of the box. As far as I know there are no drawbacks since the readings come from the memory modules themselves.
My moms hp desktop she had for 7 years has prolbem with one Windows 7 update Windows does not update that hp has problem installing it says one update failed . Microsoft says Windows 7 support ends in 2020
has anybody noticed that all the earlier versions of windows now have issues with windows update? for vista it breaks after sp2 is installed and for 7, about the same after sp1. i think they broke it when they altered the way windows update ran when 10 came out.
there is a method I found that actually fixed the issue somewhat. it's found on this page. wu.krelay.de/en/ it did the trick for me at least. I hope it helps
I noticed you plugged your dvd drive into your 6.0 sata port and your hd and ssd into your 3.0 sata port did you catch that after the video or did you?
Future ref: For the dot net 4.0 install, download the offline install package from Microsoft, disconnect from Internet, install. For some reason it hangs right there in most cases if it's online. Part of the issue with Windows 7 update is the catalog is massive, especially on a new install. The old update system is kinda klunky. Works fine when there are 20-30 even 50 updates, but over 100, you're talking hours. 200 on even a fast box, overnight. I hate it but it's a necessary evil when getting some "older" boxes up and running. (3-5 year old Optiplex machines that I often get)
It's a bad ideea to install windows 7 and after to upgrate to 10... worst ideea . Better is to go on microsoft and download media creation tool for inwdows 10 and done .. a clean wind 10pro x64 verry good :D
IF YOU NEVER FOUND OUT HOW MADE THE PSU IT WAS SEASONIC MADE THEM FOR EVGA and micorsoft is making it harder to install win 7-8 so you move on to win 10
OEM of the eVGA is Super Flower. One of the best on the market. The platform is Leadex. At least I see progress in your selection of parts... specially for motherboards. ASUS are the best on the market, not the shitty Gigabytes you used before. ;) Vietnam have one of the biggest Intel facilities at the moment (opened in late 2014). Statistically Vietnam chips (batch starting with X) clock worse and are hotter than other made in Malaysia or Costa Rica. p.p. Put the ram into yellow slots (which are far from the cooler). They should be main.
I tell ya the worst thing about installing Windows 7 unless you make a prebuilt usb stick with all the updates it takes forever to get all the way up to date with in a day. I think the biggest flaw is just getting windows updates to find all the updates get started and then after they are ready to install it takes forever no matter how fast of computer you have. Nothing like a fun surprise that after all the work getting windows 7 ready he wants windows 10 lol
The stuttering while watching 4K was because of the Chrome Browser not the system. Although I prefer Chrome, the HTML 5 rendering of 4K videos stutters even with hardware acceleration enabled. Try Firefox.
Maxxarcade I would have to assume that it would be caused by a motherboard inconsistency, maybe related to b-clock? not to sure here, below was copied from Intel ARK informational website. Memory Types DDR3-1333, DDR3L-1333 @ 1.5V
Oh and another thing because i cannot reply to my previous comment on this stupid phone. Why did you not set the memory to something good, like the rated speed of the ram. Or maybe 1333 if you think xmp might be an issue for stability. Altho i am almost 100% sure that it is not the case, running xmp only auto sets what the memory says its capable without you having to do it yourself because people dont care about things like 9 9 24 or whatever was it. I think that leaving the ram at the goofy 1400 or 1862 or wth was it actually running at was worse for stability than running the ram's settings even if it perfectly passes every test.
I see that you chose regular mbr mode when you booted from the usb. Now thats not really a big deal but whatever. windows 7 was better before, but microsoft is trying really hard to push windows 10 on everyone. I dont know if they do it for spying on the people that don't care or that think cortana is awesome(which btw is pretty deeply integrated into the os with the windows search engine which results in cortana still running even if you disable her). I think this may be their intention but im not sure of their reasons. They deliberatedly "crippled" their services relating everything else than windows 10. it begun in win 8 times when i got an asus laptop with an intel baytrail soc (full size laptop with a 4 watt cpu) that while intel maintained chipset and graphics drivers for even win xp, asus decided to use wireless network devices with no freaking drivers for windows 7. It refused to work if i tried to manually use the driver files from win 8. So after i was almost done configuring the laptop as the owner wanted because they did not care about win 8 and wanted 7 i had to tell them that there was no way to use the included wireless on their brand new sistem. I ended up installing win 8.1 and everything worked. Back to what i was saying about microsoft pushing win 10 even to people that are not interested. They only have directx 12 on win 10 (not 100% sure on that). And they announced that processors newer than skylake and i assume amd zen will only have patches for windows 10. I didn't word that properly but they said that they wont make cpu related updates to older os's only to windows 10. They are reffering to things like hyperthreading support back in the p4 days or when they released a patch that allowed windows to better utilize the cores/modules in amd fx chips. That wont be that big unless some new cpu technology arises but still. Microsoft is really pushing win 10 and flushing everything else faster than before. Maybe because win 7 is a good xp candidate and they dont want to have it live this long because they want to make windows be a service you pay for every year or idk. They certainly pushed alot of people with directx and the free upgrade and crap. On a sidenote im not too fond of the white looking status bar on programs. I made it transparent and have the color of the taskbar that is being taken from the wallpaper. I am not sure why microsoft is pushing win 10 so hard but i am not feeling good about it. I am running 10 too but i have an older pc and when 10 launched i had that itch to be on the bleeding edge and it worked pretty good considering i upgraded from a used install of win 7. It felt a bit slower on my ssd than win 7 and idk what's up with that. But comparing it to win 8 launch which was a total shitstorm, it worked for 3 days before almost turning unusable all of a sudden and being buggy and crap and needing a reinstall. All on a fresh install of 8, not even talking about upgrading which resulted in an unstable mess. So yea, win 10 is a decent os after you work on the appearance and turn off the spyware crap. But its a teeny tiny bit slower than win 7 on my sistem, ill blame that on not the best optimization on a sistem like mine. Still i'm not sure why microsoft promotes it so hard. Ok, its 2:10 in the middle of the night, almost morning and i've been writing on this comment for 30 minutes atleast on the crappy touch keyboard of my phone, i really should stop rambling and go to sleep, im still only 17 without a month and a few days. Nice build video as always maxarcade. Always nice seeing you in my youtube feed, especially with a computer related video. I have been following your videos for around 2 years or more. Hope you will give me a reply if you know what are microsoft's intentions with win 10.
I have had nothing but trouble with windows 10, my network printer does not work and I have no desire to buy another colour laser printer when it works just fine under windows 7 and all my linux based computers I have here. If MS forces me to use windows 10 by sneeky windows 7 updates I will migrate all my windows computers to linux and not bother with windows, I have just one device I will need to test first and that is my scanner, VNC works well under linux as does all my other programs.. some very old legacy stuff works just fine under wine so the move will not hurt too much. My housemate has a laser printer connected to his computer so I need to test how that will work under linux (will test that later today using the laptop)
The Asus AI Suit 3 is not compatible with windows 10 so probably why you had problems on the first windows 10 upgrade, Clean install every time with windows 10 its so much easier now and the windows 7 latest update manager is totaly screwed .
The one thing that I truly love Linux for, apt-get -- when doing updates. It's such a hands on approach when getting updates or fixing corrupt installs. That blind unknown period when Windows updates and the stupid cylon indicator animation drives me up the wall. You honestly never know how long it's going to take, if it's going to succeed, etc. If anything, Windows should do a command line update option like apt-get. hell, I wouldn't mind one bit if they cloned apt-get for command prompt, PowerShell, blind luck, what ever it's called.
It seems to me your having a memory latch error. I had this similar issue with some Mushkin I got a while ago. You might try trading slots on your RAM sticks or simply buying some more reliable memory. Crucial used to be damn decent. G-skill has become my mainstay.
I haven't seen a Vietnam G3258 before, had a few Costa Ricas but you are right the lettering looks huge and goofy on the Vietnam one, kinda cool in a geeky way.
so when you did the upgrade from 7 to 10, did that link the 7 license to a 10 license? I thought that the same 7 key wouldn't work for activating 10. Did you use the same one, or a different key to activate the clean install of 10?
+PoLoMoTo2534 That's 100% true. OS upgrades tend to break things you aren't aware of and you'll find out in the near future. If you can, always do a clean install.
Hello maxxarcade how are you doing I hope you are feeling much better now I have an operating system question can you tell me what the closest alternate operating system to windows 10 is linux or another thank you all the best now and for the future take care and be well
I am wondering would 2 gigs of memory be enough to run windows 10 . I am in the process of building a desktop and wondering when I get the free download from the internet icon. great job as always
Hah, whenever I have a tab get stuck inside a port like that I just break it off... There are so many of them I don't think it really matters that much to lose one.
.NET framework not installing is also caused by the Windows Update services being busy. Those svchost processes are indeed related. It's been like that on fresh installs for Windows Vista for quite some time now and it seems that the issue is now present in Windows 7 as well.
+Ricardo Windows Installers often extract their temp files to random hard disks. I think they use disks with the most free space available. They usually get deleted when an update is installed though. Idk why it didn't for you, but those folders usually stay there when a PC gets turned off during installation or a disk unplugged
Well I know why you were originaly getting problems with Windows 7 might be because I heard recently by some person can't remember his channel name but he had a video from two weeks ago that he heard that Intel have put a code on the chip so it could only be compatible with Windows 10 on Intel Skylake and Sandybridge versions of there CPU's.
+Maxxarcade Well mostly if that motherboard was released in the last two, three weeks and the prosesser it is a clear sign that the prosesser was designed for Windows 10 in mind.
*Warning*: Wall-o-Text Below. Usually when I do fresh installs it's with a copy of Win7 that has all the most recent updates give or take a few months, already slipstreamed in. Most people have a problem with using slipstreamed copies because of the trustability of the person or group supplying it, but generally if you use common sense you'll find one that you like, and that fixes the issue of having to do so many updates. I'm fairly certain there's also a tutorial for doing this yourself with a clean ISO as well, I've just never gone and looked up any, since there are ready-made slipstreamed ISOs available with and without a loader for a, cough-cough easy activation of windows every time, cough-cough. On an unrelated-drawing-into-related note, 2016 is certainly turning out to be the year everyone repurposes old cases for use with newer systems, as I've said before in a comment on an older video earlier this month. I completed that HP NetServer box that I turned into a sleeper system, finally, a couple days ago-- different board, i5-2500k and 16GB of RAM. (Picture here of the finished build, complete with annie-mays and an iPod Mini for excrement-posting on a certain technology imageboard we do not speak the name of: a.pomf.cat/zxhzww.jpg ) it was your last workshop PC build that gave me the idea to look for a different heatsink than what I was planning on using, and after finding the TX3 to not be in my budget range, settled on an eBay special slightly-used CNPS5X for $20 like I've already been using elsewhere. Breaking back from that, EVGA is a great company, just be sure to register that PSU on their website so you get the warranty in the proper manner. I just had to register the P67-SLI from said box with them, as it had had a few months left of warranty, so I could get an I/O Shield that was missing. (They made my day and sent it to me for free!) I can confirm that EVGA also uses the foam-backed foil on their I/O Shield as well for that board, and it's reeeeeeeally nice if done right. The only issue I forsee is what happens to that foam over time, looking at its density; it's going to possibly become flaky and/or goopy within 10 years. it reminds me of the foam-backed foil used in earlier Compaq Portable keyboards as well as other keyboards in the 80s and early 90s (rare) that were cheaply made. on the subject of the CPU, the G3258 is an excellent overclocker I'm told, and that alone makes it prime meat for a high-reliability application such as this. it's also the entire reason it has an unlocked multiplier. If you're not overclocking (and I know it will never be in this box ever!) it WILL last a long, long time. Apparently the norm with this CPU is to overclock it to 4.3GHz on the stock heatsink without breaking a sweat, the only downside overall at any speed, even just stock, being poor multicore performance compared to a normal i5 or i7, which is to be expected. I wish that box a long life, and the case an even longer one for years to come. I just hope full-size ATX boards continue to be a thing for at least another decade.
That behavior you'd seen where Windows Update just dumps files on a seemingly unrelated drive has been happening for a while. If you look around it seems like the updates will just arbitrarily pick a drive with a lot of free space available, regardless of its being your system drive or not. Was driving me crazy for a while, since I have my NAS mapped in such a way that it looks like a fixed disk. Also, I've always felt that applying updates to Windows led to it becoming worse over time. I used to be overjoyed when I could slipstream a brand new Service Pack, since I could reformat and reinstall without the need to layer patch-upon-patch. Great to see a new video from you, as always.
+LegionsOfAnon Oh yeah, it's funny to me to watch you try and play back 4k keeping your earlier videos in mind. We're a long ways away from trying to get Mint to play back 'high res' RUclips videos on like a GeForce 4 or whatever.
+LegionsOfAnon I'd be somewhat surprised if a GeForce 4 could actually pump the pixels fast enough for 4K video, assuming there is an AGP platform anywhere that could host a CPU fast enough to decode 4K video completely in software. (I'm thinking it'd have to be LGA 775 at the earliest, and there probably aren't a whole lot of those paired with an AGP slot.) Even if it could be done, I suspect the Nouveau driver will promptly halt and catch fire as that is its normal operating state.
Fan Fact: The same computer being built in this video was also used to upload it to RUclips. Made a nice overnight stability test.
+Maxxarcade This maybe is offtopic, but what happened to that moca-ar motherboard that you used in a htpc video
+the mre nerd Still have it, possible future project.
Maxxarcade Ok, yesterday i got one for free with the original heatsink and i/o shield, but i don't have one of those power supply adapters :(
Great video as always :)
+the mre nerd Can you send me a pic of the board? I'm curious what the heatsink looks like. I actually have two of these boards with CPU's, RAM and power adapters, but only one homemade heatsink.
Maxxarcade Sure, whats your email
Gosh, that Cinebench score flat out beats my Quad Core AMD A8-5557 APU.
There is a program called slim drivers free that updates and installs drivers without having to pay just be careful during the installer for no crapware
You can get a 3rd party cpu cooler for pretty cheap that has the spring screws and larger plate...
New boards dont support 1394 anymore because no one uses it anymore for practical applications, It's all USB 2.0 and soon to be 3.0/3.1
Windows 10 is full of spyware and forced bloatware.
Not much bloat as far as I can see.
Windows 7 is going down hill since the release of 10, some weird patches which apparently include telemetry. Unsure how accurate that is, but worth researching if you're still using 7.
Craig McLellan Well Microsoft is being too skeezy with windows 10 for me to be comfortable with it anywhere close to my network. Forced updates, offloading data to a cloud server for god knows who to look at, nag ware..
I still use FireWire...
Do you have an active directory domain at your work, if not have you considered one?
Do you know that you can overclock that Pentium ?
why not a i3 processor?!?!
asus motherboard? gasp!
10:36 LOL!
*Danger!* Falling book of incoming commentary!
That case sure has been around the block a few times! Considering the twin fans in the front, would it really need a rear fan?
40% tougher likely does refer to a cheap and junky case that would fold flat upon being used as a chair. As for "quad cord"...well, I've never seen a single unit quad-redundant power supply, though perhaps they exist. That'd have to be the most cramped power supply casing ever!
I'd have probably gone for a Core i3 or lower end i5 rather than the Pentium G3258. The G3258 does seem to get some very good reviews, and all of the contemporary Pentium branded CPUs do seem to be pretty good stuff. I certainly wasn't unhappy with a Pentium G2020 CPU, although I did trade it in about a year later for a Core i5 3330 just to get better playability in Rigs of Rods.
I absolutely *despise* those plastic pushpin cooler mounts. I'm not sure why they are even still around. I think there are still a few x-plates and similar around, but they're hard to find and surprisingly expensive. And as for metal I/O shield fingers obstructing ports, I wouldn't know anything about that. It was always the Ethernet port getting blocked for me. Around the S478 era, Dell used a metal mesh in some of their I/O shields that wasn't too unlike what Asus included with that board.
It was nice of Asus to include PS/2 ports and headers for serial and parallel. Now all you need are a set of port breakouts from an old ISA multi-I/O card! Those Nuvoton LPCIO chips have floppy disk controller logic, and while I suppose almost nobody would ever use it in this day and age, it would have been nice to see Asus bring that out on the board as well. It wouldn't have cost them anything meaningful.
I know the agony of having to wait before a new and exciting system can be powered up, tested out and put into service.
There definitely has been a degradation in the performance of Windows Update on Windows 7 (and sometimes even Windows 8/8.1 as well) when it first goes out to find updates on a clean installation. I think the cause is twofold: the memory leak bug in TrustedInstaller and the ever increasing number of updates that are landing in the catalog.
I've seen a few fresh Windows XP installations skip over their 30 day activation grace period.
Later versions of the .NET Framework installer check with Microsoft for the latest updates. If Windows Update hasn't finished downloading and processing its catalog, this will take forever. A system I upgraded to Windows 7 a few months ago spent the better part of an afternoon doing this.
By comparison, a Pentium III (450 MHz) system I was diddling around recently was pulling around 35 watts from the power outlet. :-P We live in such amazing times when a modern system can get so much more use out of the energy consumed and idle itself down to such an extent. What was the system's energy use when you had that 4K video playing?
I don't have a display that can resolve 4K, and at my connection speed the point of doing so would be completely moot. And while I'm sure it's very old fashioned at this point, I still don't watch anything on RUclips in HD (even though 720p is very attainable).
Whew! I think that about covers everything. Now if only RUclips hadn't put a block on copying and pasting everything I'd written. Even as fast as I type...what a pain! (I suppose that's a hint to shorten my commentary significantly.)
I know this comment is a year old and you've probably figured this out already, but for those who are reading and don't know Microsoft has patched the issue with the Windows Update taking ages on Windows 7, however you do need to manually install KB3020369 and KB3172605.
And also, Asrock has used a similar Nuvoton chip on their Z77 Extreme6 board and actually used the floppy header, pretty surprising being a fairly high end board. I have one myself with an i7-3770, and I must say while the feature set and aesthetic of the board is excellent it's certainly not very reliable.
Windows 10 updater is based after Synaptic Package manager just wonder if apt-get update will work under windows, there is an update for Windows 10 that actually installs UBUNTU Linux into Windows 10 and means that you can use UBUNTU directly from Windows 10 and you don't need a virtual box program any more.
That computer is almost too fast for Windows 7 anyway (it couldn't even finish the boot animation). Being a chubbier system, Windows 10 is probably the better choice, even if its stock theme is mind-numbingly ugly.
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I don't know for sure, but it might be a little bit slimmer than Windows 10 and still almost as ugly. Best bet is to give the computer a bloated system so that it has a good idle load and something to chew on while booting up, and 10 does just that.
LOL "This paper may contain bullshi..." *Edits it out*
Right about 20:00, I would expect the DVD Drive to be jet-like.
I tried watching one of your vids in 4k, it stuttered on mine, too!
I still think 4k is just a little overkill, though I might invest in a 4k camera down the road.
+MilenniumEdition 56 The resolution may be overkill for many right now, but the higher bitrate is an advantage when downscaled to 1080p as well.
+Maxxarcade My computer has no problems playing back 4k (Although I don't have a 4K monitor) But my internet is waaayyy too slow to stream 4k efficiently.
+Maxxarcade True! 4k looks really good, even on a 1080p monitor!
+Cap10323 Same! :)
I love how you cut off the audio after 10:41, definitely made me laugh
Windows 10!? WHY? windows 7 is the only version worth having.
+Andrew Bryant pianotunerbristol I love Windows 7, but it's not going to last forever.
The thing with the fast activation period was expired so quickly because the mainboard was on some old date from the factory. So after the install you probably corrected the date or it did it on itself someway :)
Proposition 907:
I'm convinced there are severe problems in the state of California...
I think Windows 8.1 automatically installs drivers too if it's connected to the internet. The Windows Vista and 7 "search automatically for updated driver software" has always been broken and never worked, at least in my experience.
When i install Windows 7, i get isos from this Gen2 guy or getintopc, they have all the latest updates already installed, and i just use my key to activate it automatically.
That Pentium G3258 is deceptively cheap. Like, it's cheap, but it also packs in quite a bit for what you pay for. Unlocked multipliers, too.
i love you seeing building computers.. Its taking so long to see a new Video from you. Thats the only "bad" part of Maxxarcade. And ye, i know every computer comes from your own money.
Make sure win 10 runs properly my upgrade stuffed everything up could not print,update or even run games!! Clean install has fixed the issue now! 1 thing i hate is Windows 10s big brother tracking
That 500gb WD Hard Drives. Are they only used for Buisness purposes or cna they be used for External backups i e music
I don't care about 4K yet. I actually want to do 1440p at 60 fps.
Still, I actually might want to get a better computer for that.
Have Microsoft really "broken" Windows Update on 7 as well? :-/ I thought it was bad enough that they did it on Vista, guess they're REALLY pushing Windows 10. I thought support for 7 and even Vista hasn't ended yet?
+RWL2012 I had the most problems with Windows Update on 7 corrupting itself and no matter what I would do it would never be fixed. That issue forced me to upgrade to Windows 8 Pro in November 2012, since I didn't have any 7 install media lol
+RWL2012 theres a kb update that fixes updates in 7. im sure they didnt bother with vista because who the fuck still uses vista
Jordan Woolery - 8 is eww haha WIN2K3R2 - you'd be surprised... my (non-techy) best friend on his old laptop which he still uses for certain things because the technician he knows personally merely cleaned up the existing installation, and everyone in my mum's (poor compared to the rest of the university) department except her because they didn't complain about it (and their computer) for 3 years!
You wouldn't have had those problems with Windows 7 if:
- Microsoft released another Service Pack for it. (To prevent installing billions of updates)
- Microsoft finally fixed the Windows Update issues relating to svchost.exe (I mean, really. C'mon)
- Asus used simple driver installers, like in times past. (There was really nothing wrong with that)
That unknow driver is most likely intel management engine go to intels site and get the newest version for your os that's normally the cause if windows wont download it or dont recognize it
the last few times I've installed Windows 7 I've run into similar problems with Windows Update. somehow I feel like it has something to do with Windows Update trying to download Windows 10 in the background, as if Microsoft gave that update priority over all the others. It's super frustrating because Windows 7 is still preferred for some uses.
you sound like stone cold Steve Austin lol
EVGA 550 G2 is built by Superflower who are now a recognized 'frontline' brand. Should have no problems there.
>tfw fuck Windows 7 :D
Hi Max! Had a little question for you, if you don't mind. My build is composed of an AMD A10-7700K 3.4ghz quad core processor, 16gb of DDR3 ram, a standard gigabyte ATX board. So I recently upgraded from onboard graphics to a Radeon R9 380 card, 2gb. My question is, is my 500 watt power supply sufficient for this build? According to website calculators, I'm barely above the recommended wattage. Thanks for your time!
You probably want to enable XMP memory support to get the correct trimmings and memory speed out of the box. As far as I know there are no drawbacks since the readings come from the memory modules themselves.
My moms hp desktop she had for 7 years has prolbem with one Windows 7 update Windows does not update that hp has problem installing it says one update failed . Microsoft says Windows 7 support ends in 2020
With the latest ISO of Windows 10, you can activate it out of the box with a Windows 7 key (as long as they match up such as Pro to Pro)
has anybody noticed that all the earlier versions of windows now have issues with windows update? for vista it breaks after sp2 is installed and for 7, about the same after sp1. i think they broke it when they altered the way windows update ran when 10 came out.
Robert Frederick (I'm very late, I know) but I noticed Windows update broke on my vista sp2 machine, I didn't know it was a known issue
there is a method I found that actually fixed the issue somewhat. it's found on this page.
wu.krelay.de/en/
it did the trick for me at least. I hope it helps
I noticed you plugged your dvd drive into your 6.0 sata port and your hd and ssd into your 3.0 sata port did you catch that after the video or did you?
Future ref: For the dot net 4.0 install, download the offline install package from Microsoft, disconnect from Internet, install. For some reason it hangs right there in most cases if it's online.
Part of the issue with Windows 7 update is the catalog is massive, especially on a new install. The old update system is kinda klunky. Works fine when there are 20-30 even 50 updates, but over 100, you're talking hours. 200 on even a fast box, overnight. I hate it but it's a necessary evil when getting some "older" boxes up and running. (3-5 year old Optiplex machines that I often get)
It's a bad ideea to install windows 7 and after to upgrate to 10... worst ideea . Better is to go on microsoft and download media creation tool for inwdows 10 and done .. a clean wind 10pro x64 verry good :D
IF YOU NEVER FOUND OUT HOW MADE THE PSU IT WAS SEASONIC MADE THEM FOR EVGA and micorsoft is making it harder to install win 7-8 so you move on to win 10
OEM of the eVGA is Super Flower. One of the best on the market. The platform is Leadex.
At least I see progress in your selection of parts... specially for motherboards. ASUS are the best on the market, not the shitty Gigabytes you used before. ;)
Vietnam have one of the biggest Intel facilities at the moment (opened in late 2014). Statistically Vietnam chips (batch starting with X) clock worse and are hotter than other made in Malaysia or Costa Rica.
p.p. Put the ram into yellow slots (which are far from the cooler). They should be main.
I tell ya the worst thing about installing Windows 7 unless you make a prebuilt usb stick with all the updates it takes forever to get all the way up to date with in a day. I think the biggest flaw is just getting windows updates to find all the updates get started and then after they are ready to install it takes forever no matter how fast of computer you have. Nothing like a fun surprise that after all the work getting windows 7 ready he wants windows 10 lol
"warning, this piece of paper may contain bullshhhi.." lol
The stuttering while watching 4K was because of the Chrome Browser not the system. Although I prefer Chrome, the HTML 5 rendering of 4K videos stutters even with hardware acceleration enabled. Try Firefox.
The pentium g3258 can only support up to 1333Mhz so it changed it for you
+newrhea13 Sure, but why would it change from 1333 to 1400? Seemed odd to me.
Maxxarcade I would have to assume that it would be caused by a motherboard inconsistency, maybe related to b-clock? not to sure here, below was copied from Intel ARK informational website.
Memory Types DDR3-1333, DDR3L-1333 @ 1.5V
***** 1333Mhz is not such an odd speed haha, and it runs at 1333Mhz, but your mobo probably just shows it differently.
+Milan Jovanovic Some games run bettrer because "PENTIUM POWER" or something maybe it's just so slow that it's fast again:)
David's Music the pentium g3258 is an lga 1150 cpu
Oh and another thing because i cannot reply to my previous comment on this stupid phone. Why did you not set the memory to something good, like the rated speed of the ram. Or maybe 1333 if you think xmp might be an issue for stability. Altho i am almost 100% sure that it is not the case, running xmp only auto sets what the memory says its capable without you having to do it yourself because people dont care about things like 9 9 24 or whatever was it. I think that leaving the ram at the goofy 1400 or 1862 or wth was it actually running at was worse for stability than running the ram's settings even if it perfectly passes every test.
I see that you chose regular mbr mode when you booted from the usb. Now thats not really a big deal but whatever. windows 7 was better before, but microsoft is trying really hard to push windows 10 on everyone. I dont know if they do it for spying on the people that don't care or that think cortana is awesome(which btw is pretty deeply integrated into the os with the windows search engine which results in cortana still running even if you disable her). I think this may be their intention but im not sure of their reasons. They deliberatedly "crippled" their services relating everything else than windows 10. it begun in win 8 times when i got an asus laptop with an intel baytrail soc (full size laptop with a 4 watt cpu) that while intel maintained chipset and graphics drivers for even win xp, asus decided to use wireless network devices with no freaking drivers for windows 7. It refused to work if i tried to manually use the driver files from win 8. So after i was almost done configuring the laptop as the owner wanted because they did not care about win 8 and wanted 7 i had to tell them that there was no way to use the included wireless on their brand new sistem. I ended up installing win 8.1 and everything worked. Back to what i was saying about microsoft pushing win 10 even to people that are not interested. They only have directx 12 on win 10 (not 100% sure on that). And they announced that processors newer than skylake and i assume amd zen will only have patches for windows 10. I didn't word that properly but they said that they wont make cpu related updates to older os's only to windows 10. They are reffering to things like hyperthreading support back in the p4 days or when they released a patch that allowed windows to better utilize the cores/modules in amd fx chips. That wont be that big unless some new cpu technology arises but still. Microsoft is really pushing win 10 and flushing everything else faster than before. Maybe because win 7 is a good xp candidate and they dont want to have it live this long because they want to make windows be a service you pay for every year or idk. They certainly pushed alot of people with directx and the free upgrade and crap. On a sidenote im not too fond of the white looking status bar on programs. I made it transparent and have the color of the taskbar that is being taken from the wallpaper. I am not sure why microsoft is pushing win 10 so hard but i am not feeling good about it. I am running 10 too but i have an older pc and when 10 launched i had that itch to be on the bleeding edge and it worked pretty good considering i upgraded from a used install of win 7. It felt a bit slower on my ssd than win 7 and idk what's up with that. But comparing it to win 8 launch which was a total shitstorm, it worked for 3 days before almost turning unusable all of a sudden and being buggy and crap and needing a reinstall. All on a fresh install of 8, not even talking about upgrading which resulted in an unstable mess. So yea, win 10 is a decent os after you work on the appearance and turn off the spyware crap. But its a teeny tiny bit slower than win 7 on my sistem, ill blame that on not the best optimization on a sistem like mine. Still i'm not sure why microsoft promotes it so hard. Ok, its 2:10 in the middle of the night, almost morning and i've been writing on this comment for 30 minutes atleast on the crappy touch keyboard of my phone, i really should stop rambling and go to sleep, im still only 17 without a month and a few days. Nice build video as always maxarcade. Always nice seeing you in my youtube feed, especially with a computer related video. I have been following your videos for around 2 years or more. Hope you will give me a reply if you know what are microsoft's intentions with win 10.
I have had nothing but trouble with windows 10, my network printer does not work and I have no desire to buy another colour laser printer when it works just fine under windows 7 and all my linux based computers I have here.
If MS forces me to use windows 10 by sneeky windows 7 updates I will migrate all my windows computers to linux and not bother with windows, I have just one device I will need to test first and that is my scanner, VNC works well under linux as does all my other programs.. some very old legacy stuff works just fine under wine so the move will not hurt too much.
My housemate has a laser printer connected to his computer so I need to test how that will work under linux (will test that later today using the laptop)
The Asus AI Suit 3 is not compatible with windows 10 so probably why you had problems on the first windows 10 upgrade, Clean install every time with windows 10 its so much easier now and the windows 7 latest update manager is totaly screwed .
The one thing that I truly love Linux for, apt-get -- when doing updates. It's such a hands on approach when getting updates or fixing corrupt installs. That blind unknown period when Windows updates and the stupid cylon indicator animation drives me up the wall. You honestly never know how long it's going to take, if it's going to succeed, etc.
If anything, Windows should do a command line update option like apt-get.
hell, I wouldn't mind one bit if they cloned apt-get for command prompt, PowerShell, blind luck, what ever it's called.
It seems to me your having a memory latch error. I had this similar issue with some Mushkin I got a while ago. You might try trading slots on your RAM sticks or simply buying some more reliable memory. Crucial used to be damn decent. G-skill has become my mainstay.
I haven't seen a Vietnam G3258 before, had a few Costa Ricas but you are right the lettering looks huge and goofy on the Vietnam one, kinda cool in a geeky way.
so when you did the upgrade from 7 to 10, did that link the 7 license to a 10 license? I thought that the same 7 key wouldn't work for activating 10. Did you use the same one, or a different key to activate the clean install of 10?
Update your BIOS, OC your G3258 and Add a GTX 750 Ti / GTX 950 and you'll get a nice entry level gaming rig / HTPC.
+MusicHaven2012 Intended as an Office computer....
I still don't have 4K or even 1080p i don't have then money for it i'm just lucky to have a computer that is under 10 years old and works.
lol you did a windows upgrade att a new computer thats sucks ALWAYS reinstall windows if you make it from start !!!
Proposition 69: this proposition paper may contain bullshit, I'm dying rn
Proposition 69: this proposition paper may contain bullsh- HAHAHA nice one
I would always reinstall windows 10 after upgrading from a previous OS, upgrades are always a bit glitchy.
+PoLoMoTo2534 Yep!
+PoLoMoTo2534 That's 100% true. OS upgrades tend to break things you aren't aware of and you'll find out in the near future. If you can, always do a clean install.
good to see another video Maxxarcade - i cannot fathom as to why you only have 18k subscribers, great channel.
Hello maxxarcade how are you doing I hope you are feeling much better now I have an operating system question can you tell me what the closest alternate operating system to windows 10 is linux or another thank you all the best now and for the future take care and be well
I am wondering would 2 gigs of memory be enough to run windows 10 . I am in the process of building a desktop and wondering when I get the free download from the internet icon. great job as always
Your 'Proposition 69' comment was genuinely very witty. Made me laugh.
I like your piezo squeaker can speaker addition to the motherboard. nice touch.
The back plate on the 2011-3 socket does go all the way to the mounting holes, its so nice not having to worry about a back plate.
Hah, whenever I have a tab get stuck inside a port like that I just break it off... There are so many of them I don't think it really matters that much to lose one.
File copying crashes alot too with win 7 bloody annoying
i had no problems installing 10 they sent me the update from 7 and well done nice build
The jumper is for use as a 2nd PSU, or for loop filing in water cooled systems :)
I have a Hex Cord computer! They didn't predict that, did they?
They are arthur head screws!! Ok too much king of queens here sorry.
The progress bar on youtube stays up as long as you keep the pointer on the red line or even the grey part of it.
*I don't wanna get crazy with the parts. After all, it's just an office computer used for basic stuff*
*Proceeds to buy 8gb of RAM and an SSD*
Foreigner037 an ssd I can understand (fast booting and loading) but 4gb would've been enough
Sep
Well yeah, but when you have office and browser open all the time anyway loading times start not to matter.
10:35 was my favorite
the video has really improved on your camera here.
First time I've ever heard him cuss on this channel. LOL.
.NET framework not installing is also caused by the Windows Update services being busy. Those svchost processes are indeed related. It's been like that on fresh installs for Windows Vista for quite some time now and it seems that the issue is now present in Windows 7 as well.
+Ricardo Windows Installers often extract their temp files to random hard disks. I think they use disks with the most free space available. They usually get deleted when an update is installed though. Idk why it didn't for you, but those folders usually stay there when a PC gets turned off during installation or a disk unplugged
i get the same thing with my laptop getting stuck on checking for updates does anyone know how to fix it
What would you recommend for a good but not too pricy sound card?
could you do an updated computer vid where you show all of y the pcs you currently have?
10:36 lol :D
Also I still have those arcade boards if you're interested.
10:17 But there’s NO solder at all. So yes, I agree.
That LG optical drive has M disc capability, must be pretty recent and decent quality..
+JonnyInfinite Ya, I think it was December 2013 build date. Can't remember for sure.
Memtest 86 detects my system as a core i7 system where as it is a xeon! Ha Ha!
Well I know why you were originaly getting problems with Windows 7 might be because I heard recently by some person can't remember his channel name but he had a video from two weeks ago that he heard that Intel have put a code on the chip so it could only be compatible with Windows 10 on Intel Skylake and Sandybridge versions of there CPU's.
+Hannah Flynn I've heard about that too. Really unfortunate!
+Maxxarcade Well mostly if that motherboard was released in the last two, three weeks and the prosesser it is a clear sign that the prosesser was designed for Windows 10 in mind.
+Maxxarcade Now I remember the channel. It was Computing Forever was the channel which I heard the news from.
Still waiting for another build video >.> Maybe even another capacitor or bestech power supply rant.
same here, I'm worried that he isn't going to upload again. ;(
That unkown Driver is the Intel Smart Connect thing.
Just search for it on the ASUS support.
+Dominik Fakler I figured it was either that, or the TPM.
hey max is there the prospect of another video in the future
when can will post more computer repair vlogs
Still waiting on some more videos maxx :3
Another great video from Maxxarcade!
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Usually when I do fresh installs it's with a copy of Win7 that has all the most recent updates give or take a few months, already slipstreamed in. Most people have a problem with using slipstreamed copies because of the trustability of the person or group supplying it, but generally if you use common sense you'll find one that you like, and that fixes the issue of having to do so many updates. I'm fairly certain there's also a tutorial for doing this yourself with a clean ISO as well, I've just never gone and looked up any, since there are ready-made slipstreamed ISOs available with and without a loader for a, cough-cough easy activation of windows every time, cough-cough.
On an unrelated-drawing-into-related note, 2016 is certainly turning out to be the year everyone repurposes old cases for use with newer systems, as I've said before in a comment on an older video earlier this month. I completed that HP NetServer box that I turned into a sleeper system, finally, a couple days ago-- different board, i5-2500k and 16GB of RAM. (Picture here of the finished build, complete with annie-mays and an iPod Mini for excrement-posting on a certain technology imageboard we do not speak the name of: a.pomf.cat/zxhzww.jpg ) it was your last workshop PC build that gave me the idea to look for a different heatsink than what I was planning on using, and after finding the TX3 to not be in my budget range, settled on an eBay special slightly-used CNPS5X for $20 like I've already been using elsewhere.
Breaking back from that, EVGA is a great company, just be sure to register that PSU on their website so you get the warranty in the proper manner. I just had to register the P67-SLI from said box with them, as it had had a few months left of warranty, so I could get an I/O Shield that was missing. (They made my day and sent it to me for free!) I can confirm that EVGA also uses the foam-backed foil on their I/O Shield as well for that board, and it's reeeeeeeally nice if done right. The only issue I forsee is what happens to that foam over time, looking at its density; it's going to possibly become flaky and/or goopy within 10 years. it reminds me of the foam-backed foil used in earlier Compaq Portable keyboards as well as other keyboards in the 80s and early 90s (rare) that were cheaply made.
on the subject of the CPU, the G3258 is an excellent overclocker I'm told, and that alone makes it prime meat for a high-reliability application such as this. it's also the entire reason it has an unlocked multiplier. If you're not overclocking (and I know it will never be in this box ever!) it WILL last a long, long time. Apparently the norm with this CPU is to overclock it to 4.3GHz on the stock heatsink without breaking a sweat, the only downside overall at any speed, even just stock, being poor multicore performance compared to a normal i5 or i7, which is to be expected.
I wish that box a long life, and the case an even longer one for years to come. I just hope full-size ATX boards continue to be a thing for at least another decade.
i wish my bios had the cool screen like that.
Maxx you seem to disappear alot on youtube
Good to have you back making videos
Why does your boss not switch to Linux.
Love a good PC Build
hello I have a
marantz 4240 no output
That behavior you'd seen where Windows Update just dumps files on a seemingly unrelated drive has been happening for a while. If you look around it seems like the updates will just arbitrarily pick a drive with a lot of free space available, regardless of its being your system drive or not. Was driving me crazy for a while, since I have my NAS mapped in such a way that it looks like a fixed disk.
Also, I've always felt that applying updates to Windows led to it becoming worse over time. I used to be overjoyed when I could slipstream a brand new Service Pack, since I could reformat and reinstall without the need to layer patch-upon-patch.
Great to see a new video from you, as always.
+LegionsOfAnon Oh yeah, it's funny to me to watch you try and play back 4k keeping your earlier videos in mind. We're a long ways away from trying to get Mint to play back 'high res' RUclips videos on like a GeForce 4 or whatever.
+LegionsOfAnon I'd be somewhat surprised if a GeForce 4 could actually pump the pixels fast enough for 4K video, assuming there is an AGP platform anywhere that could host a CPU fast enough to decode 4K video completely in software. (I'm thinking it'd have to be LGA 775 at the earliest, and there probably aren't a whole lot of those paired with an AGP slot.)
Even if it could be done, I suspect the Nouveau driver will promptly halt and catch fire as that is its normal operating state.
Hey Max, have you ever heard of SDI or Snappy Driver Installer?
+Lawrence Louie Nope, I mostly avoid 3rd party stuff like that. I guess I prefer to do stuff the old fashioned (and often difficult) way LOL.
+Maxxarcade Working for something just makes you appreciate the finished result that much more. :-P