This video made me sad, because the White Palace (and Path of Pain) is my favorite area in the game and I don't have any save files that I haven't done it on :')) A few extra tips: - For the platforms around 13:40, I always go under them, avoiding the retracting spears entirely up until the one that allows you to skip. - Deep Focus is a great charm, especially combined with Grubsong. - If you run out of Soul and a Wingmould is nearby, you can hit it over and over to get the Soul you need. You can also kill Royal Retainers for it, but it's much better to Dream Nail them instead. - With the spears at 14:10, you don't have to get on the wall. You can just double jump from the ground and pogo on them that way. - At 14:50, it's tight, but you can jump between two of the buzzsaws to get on one of the smaller platforms. - You can also pogo off of the spikes at 15:30 to skip a small portion of that part. - There's a breakable wall right below you at 15:50 that allows you to skip that part. - At 17:40, you can jump up and pogo through a narrow gap between the saws and the wall. - At 21:00 there's a breakable wall off to the right. It's just a bit of lore, but interesting to see. EDIT: And if anyone asks, no, I had not played Super Meat Boy when I did the White Palace for the first time. I have played it now, but I still like the platforming in Hollow Knight more :)
Everyone talks about how the pale king hasn’t been seen for a long time maybe that’s due to him being unable to leave his house with all these saw blades running around
Can you go in just once? I can't go left the gates are white shiny and they won't open again. How can I get the void heart then? I can only travel up where the pain of path is
@@cznnshr. I know you're probably past this by now. But just for anyone else in this situation, hiveblood AND deepfocus is overkill. You only need one or the other. That way, you can make room for Long Nail, or something, because that definitely makes nail jumping easier. I just cleared it too after having some trouble. Build was Hiveblood + Grubsong + Long Nail + Quick Slash
Tip: If you use the Deep Focus and Grubsong charms, you'll be able to get infinite health due to the fact that Grubsong gives you one focus worth of soul every 2 damage, and Deep Focus allows you to heal 2 damage with one focus. I know this is late, but I hope it helps someone.
Some parts of this area made me feel physically ill just thinking about what I needed to do to complete them. Thanks for helping, or I would have cried and given up much earlier than I did 👍
CORRUPTION 5 Make sure you have every possible health upgrade you can get before doing this.Also this may not help everyone,but when I redid path of pain,I muted the game,and put music over it, it helped me have complete focus.If you tried everything you could,get the hiveblood charm in the hive near kingdoms edge,it gives you pretty much infinite tries.
@@FlorianFlorian573 Some difficulty setting would have been nice. So the hardcore platformers could still get a good challenge, but for people with less laser sharp reflexes, make it possible to turn things down a notch.
Congrats! I just decided to give up. I know my limits. Enjoyed finishing the game 2x over the years. Doing the down pogo ist absolutely not what I am capable of doing. And i play video games for... +35 years. Yeah, I am that old. No, you'll always love a good game, THAT never gets old, ha ha.
@@shorerockswhite palace is doable without pogo, I haven't finished it yet (I'm at 18:13) but I haven't used down pogo at all bc I'm rubbish at it, I just dashed and double jumped my way to where I am now.
I’ve already done it but soon MegaChickenFish you will Wait why did auto translate have the word die when I put you will ... anyway soon you will complete it . Unless you have already than this comment is pointless
If you’re really struggling I recommend the hive blood charm as it allows you to heal your masks after you take damage. You can only heal the mask you just lost so wait if you take damage before moving on.
to be fair, i think im just not in my gaming prime anymore. but this was the realest comment ever. my coworker got me into hollow knight but told me “be warned, this is basically elden ring but 2d and with platforming that is harder than the enemies” i thought he was messing with me until i got to the white palace 🤦♂️
I believe the room was a nursery room that was never used. THK was never considered a child and Hornet stayed a good amount of time in Deepnest, most likely only raised in White Palace during her childhood, since the Midwife commented on her not coming back to Deepnest as a current situation implying she was raised there. The room has a sense of loneliness and sorrow to it, which makes me think Pale King remembers the room as the where White Lady sat alone without the child she wished to have
Me: Aw the bug girl gave me half a mask...I wonder where I can get the other half? [Fast forward to a castle made of nothing but buzz saws,knives and spears slicing shiving and murdering me, testing the limits of the hiveblood charm and increasing my reaction time in a knife hell heaven] thanks for the guide. Hiveblood saved my ass.
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Im just about done but I don't have a nearby bench so I can't stop playing.... Ah my fingers hurt... Edit: OMG i just passed such a difficult stage. Edit 2: just did it lol
Im fairly surprised i managed this entire section without a single down pogo. Whether thats the gigachad move or not i dont know but hey i thought it was cool 😄
Lol same I didn't even know I could down pogo on the blades and spears. But I don't think it's a gigachad move. A chad move would be to complete the section without dying and resting. A Gigachad move would be to complete it without taking a single damage
Me too. I hate the down pogo. I can only consistently do it using an anolog stick and I prefer using a dpad for everything else. Luckily the level is designed so you really don't need it.
@@Sorarosesmm? I'm halfway through and only by watching this video did I realize people actually pogo jump a lot in this game. Sure makes it easier, but it's 100% not necessary lol
This video was an absolute lifesaver, I was tearing my hair out in this area bc I am really bad at platforming but I'd already done everything else to get the Dream No More ending and didn't want all my hard work to go to waste, but with this walkthrough's help I've been able to conquer the Pale King's exorbitant million sawblades and questionable taste in interior decorating and collect the half of the Kingsoul I was missing......... thank you so much!!
19:50 For those wondering why it's believed to be Hornet's room, the reason why it's speculated to be Hornet's room is because that's a cradle not a chair and the light hanging over is a akin to the toys/lights that hang above a cradle in certain settings. As for the song, doesn't it sound like a soft lullaby played on a triangle for a baby? ;)
I always thought the hollow knight was raised there, but you do have a point. Unless the hollow knight slept in such a small cradle (which he shouldn't because he is the same age as our little playable knight at the time it left the abyss, and both of them can walk and understand well enough, so a cradle would be unnecessary) it really makes me wonder if hornet WAS actually raised in the white palace, and not in Deepnest like everyone else seems to think. However, I find it confusing that a music box version of the shade theme plays, as if implying a child of void was raised there, but maybe it was just a red hearing or composition choice. But also, Hornet didn't get to see her mom a lot as a kid, even though she doesn't regret Hera being her mother. Just food for thought.
I’m more inclined to think that the room was never used. Hornet was raised in Deepnest, it’s not specified how long but it was long enough that Midwife would comment on her not coming back to Deepnest as a current situation and wishing she would visit, so she’s probably raised in Deepnest past her infancy. The room as a reflection of grief and longing seems more fitting with the overall theme of the area and of the story
I agree with Iz, Hornet was not the White Lady daughter, she was raised in Deepnest (there's an npc at the bottom of the huge room in that place who states that).
I don't like this place. I spent a whole day going through this madness. If I wanted to play a crazy platform, I would've just played Super Meat Boy. My goodness, I didn't have fun in this area and was so relieved when it was over. Quite useful guide btw. A bit too late for me btw... I already suffered this hell. But I might keep this in mind when I decide to replay the game.
@@orbitkos4548 Good for you. It's almost like people have different experiences and skills in game, no? I did have trouble. I haven't played platforms with precision jumps in a long while and sudden shift from the game to that caught me by surprise.
@@RelyeaGaming I thought about doing it, but I think I need to be mentally prepared because there will be a lot of swearing when I decide to this lol. Right now I'm just trying to go through the Pantheons in godhome.
I’m currently doing the white palace, (anything for that second half-) and lemme tell you: Hiveblood absolutely saves your life, and pairs extremely well with Deep focus and Grubsong. Be patient, and let at least one heart heal before continuing, then only heal when *two* are gone. Saves soul, and multiple restarts!
@@georgerice6488 cool story bro. Don't use what's been made available to you by the game's creators to aid you in your attempts to complete it then. 🤷♂️
At 18:18 where you do the Crystal Heart Super Dash, I myself actually went up through that first visible upward gap. If I knew I was suppose to Crystal Heart Super Dash at that spot, I totally would've. The positioning of making that jump through that first visible upward gap was very tight. So much so, that it made me question whether the game developers actually intended the player to traverse through that first visible upward gap. That's what brought me to watch someone's walkthrough to see whether I had done a minor sequence break.
You my friend are a savior. My savior and the savior of many other people and controllers. You just prevented a mass-extinction of controllers and keyboards. Thank you.
I personally didn't find it difficult the 2nd time through. So my thought is you might find it easier if you take a step back, breath, drink some water, stretch, etc and then come back to it.
You missed a secret path. For the spikes at 15:56, there's a breakable wall underneath that is just a short cut. (You can see that the curve is cracked right under the spikes. All other corners in the palace are pristine. I found this shortcut myself a few days ago. It's just a hall)
whoo i was doing the white palace while watching this so everytime i got into a tricky part i will just minimize the window and watch the tutorial and thank u for doing tutorials like this :D
It’s so amazing that your tutorials still help new players like me even 3 years later! I love your channel. Not only are your tutorials great you‘re also a very cool person
At 18:10 I saw a video on Gamer Walkthroughs where he basically waits till the saw goes down, wall jumps above it, and mothwings to the far wall. Found this WAY easier than nail pogo. Also as someone below mentions, Grubsong and Deep focus are lifesavers, because you have infinite heals with those.
14:05 you dont need to pogo here you can crystal heart toward right and grab on a platform with spikes coming through it ,you need to have good timing to make the jump on the platform on top , its much easier if you struggle in poggoing . 15:47 this part is skip able if go all the way to the right and up of place where there buzzsaws (in this room right below the ledge his standing on) lower section is breakable and you can skip the part of moving between the spikes.
I know this is an old vid but I wanted to leave some small tips for people like me who can't down pogo to save their lives. - Platforms around 13:40 with the spears, you can jump slightly to the side, dash through when the spears are down and stick on to the other side. - Around 18:07, you can do a double jump towards the wall as the buzzsaw starts its descent to the bottom. As soon as you hit the wall, you can then do a double jump and dash to the other wall before continuing as shown Thanks for the guide. Helped me maintain my sanity through the white palace.
Thanks, I can't down pogo to save my life either. I think the part in Ancient Basin where you have to pogo off Garpedes to reach a vessel fragment took me well over 30 tries.
Honestly I'm terrible at platforming, and this guide saved me from spending days on this area. It still took me about 4 hours, but that's better than the alternative, so thanks so much for this.
Your calm explanations and reassurances helped in a way I can’t quite express. White Palace always really stresses me out, but I want to be good at it because it’s the only part of this wonderful game that I can’t do well. Your calm and soothing voice really helps me relax (and that helps me get it right!) so thank you for this.
I finally completed the white palace. Here are a few places you can cheese that were not mentioned in the video that I think would be helpful: At 12:51 you can down pogo of the lamp post and then double jump and dash. That way you’ll skip the whole spike path on the right At 14:09 instead of using mantis claw there’s a platform to the right. Double jump and dash that way you’ll end up above the spikes and you won’t get hit by them that way you can down pogo off them easily If you’re having a hard time hitting the spikes at 14:28 there’s a wall to the right. Jump there and Mantis claw to the top then double jump and dash you’ll end up above the spikes which makes it easier to down pogo off them At 17:23 hug the wall below you and go all the way down and Crystal dash. Stop right before the platform and then double jump
If you’re stuck around 18:20, there’s a very precise skip you can do. Instead of using Crystal heart on the wall, double jump up and dash left and, if timed right, you can get through the gap and skip all of the spikes. Make sure to do the first jump as close to the spikes above you as possible, and then quickly jump again. Don’t leave the second half of the double jump too late or you’ll go too low and not reach the height needed. Then it’s just a dash left, straight after the double jump, and you’re there.
Literally just finished white palace. I tried to do each section blind but this was immensely useful for those sections where I was unsure how to progress. Thanks!
This is horrific! I got so intimidated that I backed out quickly! I’m trying to finish getting my last mask and soul fragments so I can go in more prepared. Again, you made this look SOO easy! “Just like that!” 😅❤️
14:25 alternative method. Crystal heart to the right, when you stop on the wall, wing jump and mantis claw your way up. 17:35 That wingmould is useful for replenishing soul and focusing.
After tens of hours running around doing nothing in Hollow Knight, I finally gained the courage to finish the second half of White Palace and got through thanks to your help! I watched this video so many times to analyze the moves and the timing. Thank you for the guide!🙏 Can’t wait for Silksong to come out!
I'm still going through the White Palace but having Hiveblood and Grubsong are really helping me out. Edit: Thanks a ton for the guide. There are many times I thought of quitting and returning later, but this guide made this route bearable.
This is an amazing video, incredibly helpful! My only pet peeve is all the pogoing - I just finished this, took 2 hours (thanks hiveblood), but pogoed maybe twice (one of them on the flies close to the end). A lot of the places where you pogoed double jump or dash would do just as well and are much easier to do without pogoing. Especially 18:13 - just double jump when the blade starts going up, dash at it (it'll go down just before you hit it), jump right off the wall, double jump, dash - you're on the opposite wall. When I mastered the timing on that one it was just the spears to get through. And after that in the well with the flies you can hang on the left wall forever with hiveblood and have as many attempts as you like to jump over (or pogo on) the flies and land on the tiny platform. Still a wonderful guide, saved me a lot of frustration for sure! 10/10 (would be 11, but pogoing is the worst, LOL, I am not doing the path of pain, no, sir)
@@vvacancy959_ I also died on those spears countless times. You'll get through it, just keep on trying! Definitely one of the more frustrating areas. You have to get a feel for the timing, it will come to you eventually.
@@Zlukaka i just did it!!! I finished the white palace litr half an hour ago!!! Never have I thought that I could even succeed... ah this feels so good!!
Hiveblood + grubsong is one of the best charm combos for this area because when you inevitably get frustrated or have to time a movement, you can regenerate your health or get soul by getting hit and then waiting for the automatic heal (you can use lifeblood charms for extra health too)
Thank you so much for this guide - saved my bacon, and got me through a place I probably would’ve given up on otherwise. Something I noticed on my playthrough - if you Dream Nail the retainers (bowing guys), they fill your Soul. Seems like you can do it endlessly for a refill!
Five years later, I’m going to add to the list of thank you messages, your pleasant demeanor and well timed jumps saved the rest of my hair. I was just going to skip it all, but I wanted the full set of endings. Thank you.
I legit watched this as I played through. I can't tell you how helpful this video was, and I am literally shaking b/c I have finally finished this section! I have the Kingsoul complete now, and idk what to do with myself xD
15:43 If you go full right from that spot, you skip two parts. When you enter that part of the White Palace, go towards the spikes at the right of the wall. Go up a little bit when the shape of it starts changing. Hit that, boom you found the skip. Have a good day.
A small shortcut but at 12:55 you can pogo on the breakable street light behind you to double jump on the ledge above. Idk if it’s only viable if you have long nail equipped but I know I did when I used this shortcut
Thank you so much for this. Some parts I tried to weasel through my own way, but i'd have been so lost without this video. Great content as always, very helpful and easy to follow.
11:46 I'm still stuck on this part and it's genuinely making me cry, HOW. HOW DO YOU MAKE IT LOOK SO EASY Edit: I DID IT!!!! IM NEVER GOING BACK TO THE WHITE PALACE
Thanks man! You're a lifesaver. I don't have particularly good reflexes (it's actually a medical condition of mine), so having someone walk me through these buzzsaws and platforms (with the occasional reassurance that "it's easy, folks!") was a big help. Keep up the good work!
I played through HK 2x, but am stuck in the White Palace on the last bench before going all the way to the white king. After seeing all that is still to come I made my peace. Seriously, I have no idea how to finish this. It's that one tad too complicated for me. Thx for sharing, Relyea. It is always a pleasure to come back to your videos. Cannot wait until Hornet starts keeping us busy every waking moment. Cheers from Germany!
This video made me sad, because the White Palace (and Path of Pain) is my favorite area in the game and I don't have any save files that I haven't done it on :'))
A few extra tips:
- For the platforms around 13:40, I always go under them, avoiding the retracting spears entirely up until the one that allows you to skip.
- Deep Focus is a great charm, especially combined with Grubsong.
- If you run out of Soul and a Wingmould is nearby, you can hit it over and over to get the Soul you need. You can also kill Royal Retainers for it, but it's much better to Dream Nail them instead.
- With the spears at 14:10, you don't have to get on the wall. You can just double jump from the ground and pogo on them that way.
- At 14:50, it's tight, but you can jump between two of the buzzsaws to get on one of the smaller platforms.
- You can also pogo off of the spikes at 15:30 to skip a small portion of that part.
- There's a breakable wall right below you at 15:50 that allows you to skip that part.
- At 17:40, you can jump up and pogo through a narrow gap between the saws and the wall.
- At 21:00 there's a breakable wall off to the right. It's just a bit of lore, but interesting to see.
EDIT: And if anyone asks, no, I had not played Super Meat Boy when I did the White Palace for the first time. I have played it now, but I still like the platforming in Hollow Knight more :)
Great tips and super detailed. I pinned your helpful comment for others to see
Thank you! :D
@@RottenLegacy you're cool
Great advice here helped as much as the video ty.
Thank you Guys! You both helped me a LOT! I finally completed White Palace!
The Pale King's "No cost too great" quote is actually referring to the immense price of the thousands of saw blades.
could you image that home depot bill
@@RelyeaGaming it would probably cost a lot of geo, but these things must be miniature, not to mention the electric bill
@woah woah need to open two
I was thinking, when some randon insecte want to see the king they would see his colection of saw blades
Imagine what the insurance company has to say about this
Everyone talks about how the pale king hasn’t been seen for a long time maybe that’s due to him being unable to leave his house with all these saw blades running around
most likely
Though, I wonder what happened to him and why he didn't come back? :T
Or maybe the quarantine
@@MIssDreamyHead perhaps he was reincarnated into another form like he did from the wyrm to the pale king
The best introvert
Who ever designed this palace needs to take themselves off into a corner and have a word with themselves.
Can you go in just once? I can't go left the gates are white shiny and they won't open again. How can I get the void heart then? I can only travel up where the pain of path is
it's really bad , i never felt so enraged in a game , honestly this is the worst part of the game
@@hinatahyuga7685 lol true, but it's really fun....
May I ask again... 😅 Do I need this path for the 112 trophy?
Yes, I can feel my soul getting dirty playing this section
Edit: I beated the platforming section and my soul has been cleansed
I won’t lie, for sombody that sucks at platforming and keeps on dying, hiveblood is a MUST HAVE. This guide really helped out though
same, hiveblood paired with deepfocus and grubsong helps me alot here 😭 im still stuck at the last stikes part, im been here for 4 hours 🥴
Hiveblood must’ve been designed for the path of pain in mind
playing in mobile was a pain in the ass...but hey it wasn't impossible! totally worth the suffering
@@cznnshr. I know you're probably past this by now. But just for anyone else in this situation, hiveblood AND deepfocus is overkill. You only need one or the other.
That way, you can make room for Long Nail, or something, because that definitely makes nail jumping easier.
I just cleared it too after having some trouble. Build was Hiveblood + Grubsong + Long Nail + Quick Slash
@@KaozLota bro same build, I'm at the last part( kinda stuck ngl). I feel like even I can do it after all😅
This area should be renamed to: "Wait, there's MORE!?"
agree... and i dont even pass this place 😑
12:18 I thought it was over when I got to the bench. I felt a whole new world of pain today!
No it should be called Pain of Sadness and delete the game
Amen brother.
omg true lol
Tip: If you use the Deep Focus and Grubsong charms, you'll be able to get infinite health due to the fact that Grubsong gives you one focus worth of soul every 2 damage, and Deep Focus allows you to heal 2 damage with one focus. I know this is late, but I hope it helps someone.
It did help someone in fact! Thanks, was getting tedious with waiting for Hiveblood to heal.
Omg thank uuuu!!
thanks, helped me too :)
just started this weekend! thanks for the tip!
Ur a true hero thank you
I can just imagine the Pale King having a party and a guest looking for the bathroom accidentally taking the path of pain 😂
Just getting to the path of pain is a pain :(
Let’s just say he never came back from the bathroom
There should be a sign that guides you in the path of pain, but instead of an arrow or something, it's a bathroom sign.
forget accidentally taking the path of pain, it would still be difficult
Some parts of this area made me feel physically ill just thinking about what I needed to do to complete them. Thanks for helping, or I would have cried and given up much earlier than I did 👍
But you still cried and gave up?
I swear the white palace added an extra 5 hours to my first save file
I totally believe it. For me it was the path of pain that added a bunch of time
Skrill *only five ?*
I will never do it
Time for spoilers
CORRUPTION 5 Make sure you have every possible health upgrade you can get before doing this.Also this may not help everyone,but when I redid path of pain,I muted the game,and put music over it, it helped me have complete focus.If you tried everything you could,get the hiveblood charm in the hive near kingdoms edge,it gives you pretty much infinite tries.
I have all charms except kingsoul and now i play destiny 2 shadowkeep (its so freaking good) so yeah
Relyea: *travels through time and space chop of three tentacles from Cthulhu and gets all infinity stones*
Relyea: Just like that!
It’s easy!
Hahahaha it's true
Just use the wayward compass lmao
LMAOOOOOOO
No no that would be unfair, the compass being so totally op, wouldn’t it?
You hear that, Relyea? Go try to do it w/o compass now! 😉
Bro I thought that I was doing the path of pain BUT NOW IM LEARNING THAT IM NOT EVEN ON THE PATH OF PAIN
you'll know when you're on the path of pain...
I thought you had to do the path of pain as part of the king soul and I was stuck for hours trying to git gud
BRUH ITS EZ
@@happythedino9436 no one asked
mood
Thank you so much! I am 51 with slow reflexes and arthritic hands and thanks to your guide I finally finished an area I never thought I would!
Omfg i have such a love hate relationship with this game
I know what you mean
Same, so much that I gotta take breaks sometimes so i can come back to the game in a better more logical mood.
Truer words have never been spoken!
This thing drives you crazy. I said f*** you and I’ll probably do it some other day in the future. Unnecessary difficulty spike imho
Um, it's called abusive relationship, and you need to break up with it.
this game is a nightmare , i feel like i' ve been bullied by the devs for more than 60 hours.
Lol. It wasn’t that bad. At least you got good music. You will look back at this game fondly
If you didn’t like it, then why’d you play it for 60 hours?
Choleric Charmander he liked it . He just won’t admit it
Choleric Charmander he did like it. It was just hard
@@FlorianFlorian573 Some difficulty setting would have been nice. So the hardcore platformers could still get a good challenge, but for people with less laser sharp reflexes, make it possible to turn things down a notch.
Before path of pain
Me: Stay away from the saws.
After path of pain
Me: *HIT THE SAWS*
the saws become a tool for sure.
Relyea they are your friend but when the time comes they will also be your foe
True
I FINALLY BEAT THE WHITE PALACE. IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS OF STRUGGLE.
For real though, I couldn't have done this without your videos. Thank you so much.
Congrats! I just decided to give up. I know my limits. Enjoyed finishing the game 2x over the years. Doing the down pogo ist absolutely not what I am capable of doing. And i play video games for... +35 years. Yeah, I am that old. No, you'll always love a good game, THAT never gets old, ha ha.
@@shorerockswhite palace is doable without pogo, I haven't finished it yet (I'm at 18:13) but I haven't used down pogo at all bc I'm rubbish at it, I just dashed and double jumped my way to where I am now.
@@shorerocksyou don't need pogo. Done white palace yesterday and didn't even try to pogo spikes/chainsaws.
@@jihant3985same
"Ah, saw blades! This must be the Path of Pain people talked about! Not going that way!"
Lol. Not going that way yet
I’ve already done it but soon MegaChickenFish you will Wait why did auto translate have the word die when I put you will ... anyway soon you will complete it . Unless you have already than this comment is pointless
PoP has a sign saying "Path of Pain"
Have you watch CrankyTemplar deliver the flower detouring in PoP?
Dorry but you need yo do it for true ending
My blood boils everytime he says '*EASY*'
sorry about that
@@RelyeaGaming oh no! I meant it as a joke....
I feel you bro 💔
I just did it and it wasnt too bad..
@@MrThemelloman ...
m8 wut
This place unironically makes me want to cry
Literally just finished it yesterday. I was literally crying when I got to the throne room. This took me a good 4 hours to finish
Took me a long time my first time too
I knew it was my time to install cheat engine after the 3rd hour.
4:23 love how you just casually stroll through the part that made me red in the face mad.
It’s easy 😉
MEEEEEEEEE TOO omfg jumping off the roof of my house was sounding better and better
OMG sameeeee
Anything with pogo makes me want to sell my switch tbh i cant do it idk why 😂😭
When the buzzsaws go down into the ground you can jump up and the ceiling makes the knight fall down on the safe space
Relyea: * beats white palace in 20 minutes *
Me: Its been 4 hours, but I'm finally done with this really hard section!
Nice and easy 😜
*to get 3 tentacles of cthulu*
I’d assume that he edited thee video into all of the important bits and he actually took an hour or 2 to finish it
@@laundrybasketgamers Even spending 2 hours on this is impressive, but I get what you mean!
@@PRDGL_WindyBW I think I only spent an hour and a half on it
White Palace is just one big "you want me to do what?" moment after the next. Then you find Path of Pain.
If you’re really struggling I recommend the hive blood charm as it allows you to heal your masks after you take damage. You can only heal the mask you just lost so wait if you take damage before moving on.
This game has made me the maddest I have ever been in my entire life. Never did I think I would be physically shaking over a game but here I am.
Ikr it fr killed me. I hate it but imma just wait till a friend who's good at parkour comes to my house
I did everything in the game until that point last year , but when I made It at some point here I raged so much that I deleted the whole game
to be fair, i think im just not in my gaming prime anymore. but this was the realest comment ever. my coworker got me into hollow knight but told me “be warned, this is basically elden ring but 2d and with platforming that is harder than the enemies” i thought he was messing with me until i got to the white palace 🤦♂️
Just a note: you can hit wingsmoulds to get infinite SOUL.
I did this and it definitely saved me
Didn't work for me?
@@Unoriginal____Starwalker dream nail them
@@t9nine9t86 oh
@@Unoriginal____Starwalker you just need to keep hitting it, you’ll collect soul
I believe the room was a nursery room that was never used. THK was never considered a child and Hornet stayed a good amount of time in Deepnest, most likely only raised in White Palace during her childhood, since the Midwife commented on her not coming back to Deepnest as a current situation implying she was raised there. The room has a sense of loneliness and sorrow to it, which makes me think Pale King remembers the room as the where White Lady sat alone without the child she wished to have
Me: Aw the bug girl gave me half a mask...I wonder where I can get the other half?
[Fast forward to a castle made of nothing but buzz saws,knives and spears slicing shiving and murdering me, testing the limits of the hiveblood charm and increasing my reaction time in a knife hell heaven]
thanks for the guide. Hiveblood saved my ass.
This was the most challenging, toughest platforming i did ever in 25 years. Thanks for the guide, it helped a lot!
I know the feeling. Happy to help
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@@happythedino9436 ok troll
I can’t believe I just did all of that.
I wouldn’t have been able to do this without your guide, thanks a bunch!
Im on path of pain rn my soul hurts
Im just about done but I don't have a nearby bench so I can't stop playing.... Ah my fingers hurt... Edit: OMG i just passed such a difficult stage. Edit 2: just did it lol
Dang I can’t even get through it the urge to scream and throw things has never been greater than the white palace. path of pain is never gonna happen
Im fairly surprised i managed this entire section without a single down pogo. Whether thats the gigachad move or not i dont know but hey i thought it was cool 😄
Lol same I didn't even know I could down pogo on the blades and spears. But I don't think it's a gigachad move. A chad move would be to complete the section without dying and resting. A Gigachad move would be to complete it without taking a single damage
I hate pogoing and am halfway through. It’s comforting to know it’s been done before. That’s gonna keep me motivated
Im pretty sure thats impossible lol
Me too. I hate the down pogo. I can only consistently do it using an anolog stick and I prefer using a dpad for everything else. Luckily the level is designed so you really don't need it.
@@Sorarosesmm? I'm halfway through and only by watching this video did I realize people actually pogo jump a lot in this game. Sure makes it easier, but it's 100% not necessary lol
Me wanting the no more dreams ending: *this is fine*
Same 😔
That moment when I see the really hard part I just finished and realize I'm only 4 minutes into the video
You will be able to get it
then you realize this entire area is the easy part to warm up for the Path of Pain
Basically the path of pain in four words
"I was so close!"
I think *I* is a letter so it will be 3 words? or *I*= i am?
This video was an absolute lifesaver, I was tearing my hair out in this area bc I am really bad at platforming but I'd already done everything else to get the Dream No More ending and didn't want all my hard work to go to waste, but with this walkthrough's help I've been able to conquer the Pale King's exorbitant million sawblades and questionable taste in interior decorating and collect the half of the Kingsoul I was missing......... thank you so much!!
19:50 For those wondering why it's believed to be Hornet's room, the reason why it's speculated to be Hornet's room is because that's a cradle not a chair and the light hanging over is a akin to the toys/lights that hang above a cradle in certain settings. As for the song, doesn't it sound like a soft lullaby played on a triangle for a baby? ;)
I always thought the hollow knight was raised there, but you do have a point. Unless the hollow knight slept in such a small cradle (which he shouldn't because he is the same age as our little playable knight at the time it left the abyss, and both of them can walk and understand well enough, so a cradle would be unnecessary) it really makes me wonder if hornet WAS actually raised in the white palace, and not in Deepnest like everyone else seems to think. However, I find it confusing that a music box version of the shade theme plays, as if implying a child of void was raised there, but maybe it was just a red hearing or composition choice. But also, Hornet didn't get to see her mom a lot as a kid, even though she doesn't regret Hera being her mother. Just food for thought.
I’m more inclined to think that the room was never used. Hornet was raised in Deepnest, it’s not specified how long but it was long enough that Midwife would comment on her not coming back to Deepnest as a current situation and wishing she would visit, so she’s probably raised in Deepnest past her infancy. The room as a reflection of grief and longing seems more fitting with the overall theme of the area and of the story
I agree with Iz, Hornet was not the White Lady daughter, she was raised in Deepnest (there's an npc at the bottom of the huge room in that place who states that).
How do you get the map
18:28 these last spears right here... *THESE DAMMED SPEARS*
I know!
Dude same
That one last spear jump is evil
I feel you my brother. _I can feel you._
Im stuck on these. Ive never used cheat codes in a game before but im considering it now.
Him: your fine! Everything will be easy!
Me: I AM NOT FINE I AM NOT FINE I AM NOT FINE
MEEEE OMG! 🤣 I keep screaming “I HATE THIS PLACE BUT IM SO CLOSE!” It’s been 4 hours... 🤣🤣🤣
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I literally cried at some point because I got so frustrated 🥲
I know I'm 3 years too late but this was super helpful! Not only for the guide but because you going "See? Easy" was very encouraging 😭🥺💗
I'm four years late 😂
@@amosgodwin3921 we are two lol
That “see easy” gets me everytime knowing damn well he died 1000 times and just edited where he actually made it through each part lol hahaha!!!!
me too xDD@@amosgodwin3921
It just made me feel inept.
Me: * moves an inch at 4:30 *
Buzzsaws: *I'm about to end this man's whole coureer*
lol. Yes, that it how it works
I've been doing this bit for over ten mins :'( constantly pausing for hiveblood
Amber Hart same man
That part was the hardest for me
Coureer
I don't like this place. I spent a whole day going through this madness. If I wanted to play a crazy platform, I would've just played Super Meat Boy. My goodness, I didn't have fun in this area and was so relieved when it was over.
Quite useful guide btw. A bit too late for me btw... I already suffered this hell. But I might keep this in mind when I decide to replay the game.
Mate for me it wasn’t that hard I beat it in under an hour.
@@orbitkos4548 Good for you. It's almost like people have different experiences and skills in game, no?
I did have trouble. I haven't played platforms with precision jumps in a long while and sudden shift from the game to that caught me by surprise.
Have you done the path of pain? It sounds like you wouldn’t enjoy it much but maybe when you run out of things to do
I agree. Different people have trouble with different bosses and areas based on playstyle
@@RelyeaGaming I thought about doing it, but I think I need to be mentally prepared because there will be a lot of swearing when I decide to this lol. Right now I'm just trying to go through the Pantheons in godhome.
I’m currently doing the white palace, (anything for that second half-) and lemme tell you:
Hiveblood absolutely saves your life, and pairs extremely well with Deep focus and Grubsong. Be patient, and let at least one heart heal before continuing, then only heal when *two* are gone. Saves soul, and multiple restarts!
Thank you 👍
I feel like that's cheating and have opted to simply not do thay
@@georgerice6488how tf is using the mechanics of a game in such a strategic way to not die cheating?
@@QuickDraw-e7k you see if you make a parkour map the intention is to not fall, by equipping hiveblood all risk is removed
@@georgerice6488 cool story bro. Don't use what's been made available to you by the game's creators to aid you in your attempts to complete it then. 🤷♂️
At 18:18 where you do the Crystal Heart Super Dash, I myself actually went up through that first visible upward gap. If I knew I was suppose to Crystal Heart Super Dash at that spot, I totally would've. The positioning of making that jump through that first visible upward gap was very tight. So much so, that it made me question whether the game developers actually intended the player to traverse through that first visible upward gap. That's what brought me to watch someone's walkthrough to see whether I had done a minor sequence break.
You my friend are a savior. My savior and the savior of many other people and controllers. You just prevented a mass-extinction of controllers and keyboards. Thank you.
You are very much welcome.
It isn't even that bad 15:59 was the most nerve crushing part for me until I tried Relyea's tip to just press the dash button
Im struggling so hard with this, it makes me want to cry and I’m not joking
I been on this for the past 2 hours and i don't even think I'm halfway done
@@cherrybear3596 i think i’ve been here for about 4 and i just gave up for the knight. idk if i even want to continue
I got to the third bench in an hour and it took him 11 minutes 😭
I personally didn't find it difficult the 2nd time through. So my thought is you might find it easier if you take a step back, breath, drink some water, stretch, etc and then come back to it.
I am crying
Relyea:Says the soul stone gives you a lot of soul.
Hits it once and doesnt let him hit it anymore
Relyea:Never mind I made that up
I left that in there on purpose. Figured someone would get a kick out of it
@@RelyeaGaming why didnt it give you anymore?
I was full
I was full
@@RelyeaGaming but I thought you could still hit it
I spent 4 hours in the white palace last night, I almost cried when I got through and sat in the chair 😭 thanks a lot, this video helped so much!
This is like the best of all the levels created by psychopaths in Super Mario Maker rolled into one.
You missed a secret path. For the spikes at 15:56, there's a breakable wall underneath that is just a short cut. (You can see that the curve is cracked right under the spikes. All other corners in the palace are pristine. I found this shortcut myself a few days ago. It's just a hall)
Thanks bro I hated that part
I literally came to this video for how to pass the spikes, thanks sm
BLESS YOU!!! I could NOT for the life of me get past those spikes!!!
I LOVE YOU OH MY GOD
Where? I cannot see it... It doesn't work for me...
whoo i was doing the white palace while watching this so everytime i got into a tricky part i will just minimize the window and watch the tutorial and thank u for doing tutorials like this :D
Just happy to help!
I did not even know people did hollow knight white palace walk throughs until after completing it
It’s so amazing that your tutorials still help new players like me even 3 years later! I love your channel. Not only are your tutorials great you‘re also a very cool person
Thanks for this. I was about to throw my switch.
Don’t do that 😆
Same but I play on my tv so I am about to punch my tv because of this hell
Ya this did help but I suck at platforming so much I want to shoot my switch with a shotgun
The only thing I broke was the pale kings skull after waking him a bunch but honestly white palace is easy and path of pain is trash
YEET
14:27 NICE 'N EASY FOR WHO I just wanna cryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
You will get it in time
I just went up the right side instead of the left side so I could skip that part
You can also wall jump when the spikes aren't there, if that's easier for you.
At 18:10 I saw a video on Gamer Walkthroughs where he basically waits till the saw goes down, wall jumps above it, and mothwings to the far wall. Found this WAY easier than nail pogo.
Also as someone below mentions, Grubsong and Deep focus are lifesavers, because you have infinite heals with those.
I know this is a year after you posted, but I sincerely thank you for this tip
I can't pogo on an upward moving sawblade to save my life! It just doesn't seem to throw me upward, ever.
Thank you so much
Again, this is a bit late but thanks to your comment I did what you mentioned with first try, definitely easier, tysm!!
14:05 you dont need to pogo here you can crystal heart toward right and grab on a platform with spikes coming through it ,you need to have good timing to make the jump on the platform on top , its much easier if you struggle in poggoing .
15:47 this part is skip able if go all the way to the right and up of place where there buzzsaws (in this room right below the ledge his standing on) lower section is breakable and you can skip the part of moving between the spikes.
I know this is an old vid but I wanted to leave some small tips for people like me who can't down pogo to save their lives.
- Platforms around 13:40 with the spears, you can jump slightly to the side, dash through when the spears are down and stick on to the other side.
- Around 18:07, you can do a double jump towards the wall as the buzzsaw starts its descent to the bottom. As soon as you hit the wall, you can then do a double jump and dash to the other wall before continuing as shown
Thanks for the guide. Helped me maintain my sanity through the white palace.
Appreciate the tips
Thanks, I can't down pogo to save my life either. I think the part in Ancient Basin where you have to pogo off Garpedes to reach a vessel fragment took me well over 30 tries.
Honestly I'm terrible at platforming, and this guide saved me from spending days on this area. It still took me about 4 hours, but that's better than the alternative, so thanks so much for this.
Even a skilled person in platforming thinks that this is so hard to complete.
Your calm explanations and reassurances helped in a way I can’t quite express. White Palace always really stresses me out, but I want to be good at it because it’s the only part of this wonderful game that I can’t do well. Your calm and soothing voice really helps me relax (and that helps me get it right!) so thank you for this.
Glad I was able to help!
@@RelyeaGaming You were! I managed to finish the whole Palace no problem with your help! Thank you again!!
This is the only reason I was patient enough to get through this hellscape of a platforming challenge, thank you so much for making this video!
Please give me comfort that I’m not the only one struggling with this...
You are not the only one
@@RelyeaGaming Dang you check comments from videos from awhile ago. What a legend.
i'm halfway through and i'm already dead inside
This is my second attempt and I've already died way too many times, I want to give up honestly
@@HUYI1 real
I finally completed the white palace. Here are a few places you can cheese that were not mentioned in the video that I think would be helpful:
At 12:51 you can down pogo of the lamp post and then double jump and dash. That way you’ll skip the whole spike path on the right
At 14:09 instead of using mantis claw there’s a platform to the right. Double jump and dash that way you’ll end up above the spikes and you won’t get hit by them that way you can down pogo off them easily
If you’re having a hard time hitting the spikes at 14:28 there’s a wall to the right. Jump there and Mantis claw to the top then double jump and dash you’ll end up above the spikes which makes it easier to down pogo off them
At 17:23 hug the wall below you and go all the way down and Crystal dash. Stop right before the platform and then double jump
I love you so much thank you for saving my thumbs
Amazing tips thank you!
tip: dont kill the bowing bois, dream nail em for infinite soul to heal yourself
A good tip indeed
I kill them out of spite
But how do I satisfy my lust for murder ?
I killed them for the hunter’s journal but as soon as I got the number needed I just let them be, I also bow back since they’re so polite
@@LaLloronaVT how to bow?
If you’re stuck around 18:20, there’s a very precise skip you can do.
Instead of using Crystal heart on the wall, double jump up and dash left and, if timed right, you can get through the gap and skip all of the spikes. Make sure to do the first jump as close to the spikes above you as possible, and then quickly jump again. Don’t leave the second half of the double jump too late or you’ll go too low and not reach the height needed. Then it’s just a dash left, straight after the double jump, and you’re there.
did this work for you? I dont think its possible
NEVER MIND I DID IT
Literally just finished white palace. I tried to do each section blind but this was immensely useful for those sections where I was unsure how to progress. Thanks!
This is horrific! I got so intimidated that I backed out quickly! I’m trying to finish getting my last mask and soul fragments so I can go in more prepared. Again, you made this look SOO easy! “Just like that!” 😅❤️
I hate super long videos but this one had to be detailed so that anybody could follow along. I think that you will be able to get through it just fine
Relyea I actually don’t mind, especially for hollow knight since so many little things can be missed. It was a great video.
Fun fact this came up when i searched: “hollow knight how to not smash my head against the wall in the white palace”
18:21 - 18:43 alone, that one section, not even the saw wall before it, just that part, took me HOURS
I'd ALWAYS hit one of the bugs, not be able to pogo off one, and fall
Relyea : It took just 22 min to get through the White Palace
Me : It took just 3 hours and 34 min to get through the White Palace
ur a god man
it took me around 7h before i watched this vid xD
i use spacebar to jump and my kb is very bulky it sucks
@@dinisgoncalves7425 omfg XDD
@@pascanalina7348 imagine i didnt knew i could pogo on those sawblades
IMAGINE
I just rage quit from playing 10 hours straight of this godforsaken place. I envy you.
Me: still has not finished it yet after my playtime went up from 26hrs to 39hrs.
I am having trouble trying to not hate my life while doing the white palace
14:25 alternative method. Crystal heart to the right, when you stop on the wall, wing jump and mantis claw your way up.
17:35 That wingmould is useful for replenishing soul and focusing.
Good tips!
That’s actually what I did 😂
those who look down on hiveblood have clearly never completed path of pain.
At this point the charm has healed me more than all the benches combined
After tens of hours running around doing nothing in Hollow Knight, I finally gained the courage to finish the second half of White Palace and got through thanks to your help! I watched this video so many times to analyze the moves and the timing. Thank you for the guide!🙏 Can’t wait for Silksong to come out!
You are very my welcome my friend
I'm still going through the White Palace but having Hiveblood and Grubsong are really helping me out.
Edit: Thanks a ton for the guide. There are many times I thought of quitting and returning later, but this guide made this route bearable.
I want to thank you so much for this walkthrough! The hallway of spears was what was giving me the worst time and this really helped.
white palace was driving me nuts, i couldn't have finished it if it weren't for this. thank you so much man
This is an amazing video, incredibly helpful! My only pet peeve is all the pogoing - I just finished this, took 2 hours (thanks hiveblood), but pogoed maybe twice (one of them on the flies close to the end). A lot of the places where you pogoed double jump or dash would do just as well and are much easier to do without pogoing. Especially 18:13 - just double jump when the blade starts going up, dash at it (it'll go down just before you hit it), jump right off the wall, double jump, dash - you're on the opposite wall. When I mastered the timing on that one it was just the spears to get through. And after that in the well with the flies you can hang on the left wall forever with hiveblood and have as many attempts as you like to jump over (or pogo on) the flies and land on the tiny platform.
Still a wonderful guide, saved me a lot of frustration for sure! 10/10 (would be 11, but pogoing is the worst, LOL, I am not doing the path of pain, no, sir)
the spears omg i can easily jump through the saw part there but the timing of those spears gets me EVERY SINGLE TIME
@@vvacancy959_ I also died on those spears countless times. You'll get through it, just keep on trying! Definitely one of the more frustrating areas. You have to get a feel for the timing, it will come to you eventually.
@@Zlukaka i just did it!!! I finished the white palace litr half an hour ago!!! Never have I thought that I could even succeed... ah this feels so good!!
@@vvacancy959_ Awesome! Congrats! *high-five* Waiting for SilkSong now, eh? :D
@@Zlukaka 🙌🙌😆 yes silksong pls team cherry can u give us some news abt it in this year’s game award😢
Hiveblood + grubsong is one of the best charm combos for this area because when you inevitably get frustrated or have to time a movement, you can regenerate your health or get soul by getting hit and then waiting for the automatic heal (you can use lifeblood charms for extra health too)
Tip: you can dream nail the white bugs for soul
-you could also use grub song charm to get soul when you get hit
Saving lives years later. Thank you so much!!!
Never would've figured out some of those sequences without your help!
16:00 This is the most sadistic jump and run parcour ever
Agreed
totally agree. I hate it :C
seriously this part was the reason i actually searched for this cuz i didnt know you could just dash these.
@@sophisticatedfrog5737 грустно узнать только после прохождения, что в итоге, под этим участком есть гребанный шорткат)))
Whoa that looks brutal. I’m so lucky I found the skip for that part by accident
Thank you so much for this guide - saved my bacon, and got me through a place I probably would’ve given up on otherwise. Something I noticed on my playthrough - if you Dream Nail the retainers (bowing guys), they fill your Soul. Seems like you can do it endlessly for a refill!
I think they end up exploding if you do it too much, but yeah they were definitely a lifesaver for me!
Here's a tip on how to beat the White Palace:
You don't
why not?
@@RelyeaGaming i get frustrated quite easily and the white palace can literaly make me snap
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💔💔💔💔
I did
@@dinodude6992 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Five years later, I’m going to add to the list of thank you messages, your pleasant demeanor and well timed jumps saved the rest of my hair. I was just going to skip it all, but I wanted the full set of endings. Thank you.
Happy to help, you are welcome
I legit watched this as I played through. I can't tell you how helpful this video was, and I am literally shaking b/c I have finally finished this section! I have the Kingsoul complete now, and idk what to do with myself xD
The fact he did the left saw part in one try is astonishing ive been doing it for 10 hours and still cant get past the times part
Wtf
@@happythedino9436 to this day i still have not beat that level
Hey, dude, may I use some clips from your videos for my amino posts (in spanish) for some tutorials? Obviously, I'll give you credit
You are more than welcome. I appreciate you asking.
I would not have been able to do this without your guide. Thank you so much for making this.
It sounds like our shade soul, except a baby's shade soul.
Okaaaaaaay. Ima just... yeahhh....
Yeah
Bro this guide is the only reason I was able to make it through white palace thank you so much for making it
15:43 If you go full right from that spot, you skip two parts.
When you enter that part of the White Palace, go towards the spikes at the right of the wall. Go up a little bit when the shape of it starts changing. Hit that, boom you found the skip. Have a good day.
Thx
Thanks
A small shortcut but at 12:55 you can pogo on the breakable street light behind you to double jump on the ledge above. Idk if it’s only viable if you have long nail equipped but I know I did when I used this shortcut
Thank you so much for this. Some parts I tried to weasel through my own way, but i'd have been so lost without this video. Great content as always, very helpful and easy to follow.
11:46 I'm still stuck on this part and it's genuinely making me cry, HOW. HOW DO YOU MAKE IT LOOK SO EASY
Edit: I DID IT!!!! IM NEVER GOING BACK TO THE WHITE PALACE
I have beat it several times as this point. Once you do it once, it’s not so hard
@@RelyeaGaming I did it :D
Same that section was the hardest for me
i’m stuck on this thing rn
I know what you mean it took me forever but once I really figured it out i did it easily
This area literally made me rage quit and and have a panic attack back to back and I'm still stuck on it
Just know that you have unlimited time and health and you can get it with practice.
@@RelyeaGaming Yeah. Thanks, that actually made me feel a lot better 😊
Technically you don't have unlimited time...your days are limited mortal.
@@OddxIkabod hi did you ever beat it?
@@idonotconsent1020 reality is often disappointing....
THANK YOU RELYEA THIS THING MADE ME CRY
Thanks man! You're a lifesaver. I don't have particularly good reflexes (it's actually a medical condition of mine), so having someone walk me through these buzzsaws and platforms (with the occasional reassurance that "it's easy, folks!") was a big help. Keep up the good work!
Other people: OMG WHY IS THIS FRICKING PARKOUR SO HARD (rage quit)
Relyea: Hey this is easy:D
That’s the power of editing magic 🤫
😂
I hate the pale king for constructing this ridicolous palace.
I think he just thought it up. He didn’t even build it
@@RelyeaGaming He is still responsible for this hellhole
That was brutal! Especially 18:12-18:43. I couldn't have completed this without Hiveblood and Grubsong.
I'm finally through. Thankful never to have to do that part of the map again. OMG.
I played through HK 2x, but am stuck in the White Palace on the last bench before going all the way to the white king. After seeing all that is still to come I made my peace. Seriously, I have no idea how to finish this. It's that one tad too complicated for me. Thx for sharing, Relyea. It is always a pleasure to come back to your videos. Cannot wait until Hornet starts keeping us busy every waking moment. Cheers from Germany!