I agree, the pillars should be integrated in every wall. Altough, the shortcut is there... It's mainly done to speed up the building process. Building without pillars take less time once you get the hang of it.
i also don't get why the devs retain all this pile thing instead just make the walls pileless by defeault... even if the pile cost get set to 0 wood still would be better delete them for save building time -.-!
the amount of food he has is the amount your grandmother would donate to your colony you in the game if you said you needed food for ur next batch of hussars
I like to make artillery positions from the "too stretched walls" with passable holes in them. Just a couple pikemen will turn the holes into killzones and cavalry paths right through them.
the pillarless walls main objective is to save wood early game which I understand is good. But I think there's no need in the later stages of the game where building walls fast is more important than to be concerned about pillars, thats just messes up your apm(actions per minute). Also, pillarless walls can have gaps so keep that in mind
Samurai could you please record some multiplayer gameplay (like 2v2 and 3v3) with treaties with new civs? I searches through and didn’t really find any good videos. Some of them are just bad and some without commentary, which is just boring. Your videos, on the other hand, are really entertaining and much more fun)
Why isn't this exploited in AoE2? I think that pillars should only cost 1 wood. I mean it makes sense since they're around 1/5 the size compared to the normal wall segment.
Because walls in AoE2 work completely differently. There, every piece of wall is a tower section placed directly against another tower section. When three or more units of wall are built in a line, the units not on the ends look like wall segments instead of towers. This is 100% aesthetic and does not affect gameplay. If you tried to delete the towers in AoE2 you wouldn't get a cheaper wall that was just as effective, you'd get a cheaper wall with holes in it that the enemy could walk straight through. For AoE2, the resource and build time savings come from tricks to put down gates without having to build a wall to place the gate in first.
Sorry but I didnt understand how to delete only pillars... I have to select every pillar and then press delet, exist another way? I try making double click on pillars but all the wall is selected. I take too much time selecting only pillars one by one...
@@mehmetilbasan4383 Having pillars have more hp would not be such a bad idea in balancing them so people keep them around. Though the risk is that someone try to develop a pillar only strategy. But I guess the amount of time you would have to spend to optimize that eats up any gains you would have. Either way I want pillars to be viable since the walls looks better that way. Of course, they could simply make better looking pillarless walls but that would likely take a lot of effort. But some splines wall building algorithm could solve that in theory. But again. It is a bit hard core to do so since is not the easiest thing to actually program in (Modders show me that I am wrong! 😃 ). Would be pretty cool however if you just could paint curvy walls.
@@ShemTMOfficial Hmm... true. One could reduce the cost to. But one still need to balance it with the HP. I am sure it can be figured out what is the best media solution. 😉
the pillar is 5 wood. the wall is also 5. to make ONE wall, it costs you 15 wood, to make two walls, it costs 25, to make 3 walls, it costs 35. Or wall*2 + 5. Deleting the pillars gives you the wood back (when you delete it before building it). Pillars double the necessary cost and build time. If you don't mind the cost or time then no need to worry about practicing this skill ;).
Haven’t had a single game crash yet running DE on max graphics. The 2070 super is killing it. Cyber power is selling a really nice build for ~$1400. Got it for myself for my bday and everything is flawless. Next purchase: 4K TV!
Dive into Reddit. I spent a total of $1315 for shipping and all. At that price, it’s actually cheaper than building it yourself. Only thing I’d like to change is the liquid cooling system but that’s just cause I don’t like the idea of water inside my cpu! And an upgrade in RAM at some point.
@@Flowey-the-Flower Do some research. With everything you get in this build including keyboard and mouse and shipping from either the parts website or Best Buy, you’re spending the same or more building it yourself.
Were you using cheats lol? I recognize the build speed and resource collection speed because I used to always use cheats in the Asian Dynasties in single player against the AI to make the game a bit more fun XD
The Pillars should cost about 1 to 2 wood, then nobody would have this issue and the walls could just look the way they are: beautiful !
I agree, the pillars should be integrated in every wall. Altough, the shortcut is there... It's mainly done to speed up the building process. Building without pillars take less time once you get the hang of it.
i also don't get why the devs retain all this pile thing instead just make the walls pileless by defeault... even if the pile cost get set to 0 wood still would be better delete them for save building time -.-!
I think it looks more beautiful this way.
Thats not possible because its the same building. It would need a seperate button to use for the pillars.
the amount of food he has is the amount your grandmother would donate to your colony you in the game if you said you needed food for ur next batch of hussars
Kind of sad the team didnt fix this issue. You shouldnt have to play a mini game based around walls.
walls are thought to work like this, players shouldnt take down pillars, in my opinion they shold remove that option
@@erikvidal9732 exactly, removing the pillars removes the segment of walls, so it makes sense when they are destroyed it falls
@@spencerbevan9621 i mean, builder shouldn do pilarless
Make a video about most important hot keys pls.
Yes please
unless you're doing classic most hotkeys are mapped to a grid. the other hotkeys are a little awkward, but fairly straightforward.
Please do this
Check @Aussie_Drongo channel, he has this video
Go legacy, i like it better
I like to make artillery positions from the "too stretched walls" with passable holes in them. Just a couple pikemen will turn the holes into killzones and cavalry paths right through them.
the pillarless walls main objective is to save wood early game which I understand is good. But I think there's no need in the later stages of the game where building walls fast is more important than to be concerned about pillars, thats just messes up your apm(actions per minute). Also, pillarless walls can have gaps so keep that in mind
Super cool. I've seen some videos of players doing this, but I never understood why. Very interesting.
I have been trying to learn how to do this since 2010, I am not joking, thank you so much xD
Been getting back into AO3 after DE release, love your channel!
Samurai could you please record some multiplayer gameplay (like 2v2 and 3v3) with treaties with new civs? I searches through and didn’t really find any good videos. Some of them are just bad and some without commentary, which is just boring. Your videos, on the other hand, are really entertaining and much more fun)
@@Nameless-hb6jt ohh ok
nice tutorial bro! Keep it up!
Just tell me one thing, one IMPORTANT THING... Will we be able to build gates on trade routes? XC
No
Haha been waiting 15 years for gates on trade routes. Would make bases so much prettier
Literally me since 2005 and seeing the devs put that shit into the story but not in PVP
Back in the day, in Age of Empires 2 when 2 walls were built together adjacent and close it be a double wall.
Thank you for this
Why isn't this exploited in AoE2? I think that pillars should only cost 1 wood. I mean it makes sense since they're around 1/5 the size compared to the normal wall segment.
Because walls in AoE2 work completely differently. There, every piece of wall is a tower section placed directly against another tower section. When three or more units of wall are built in a line, the units not on the ends look like wall segments instead of towers. This is 100% aesthetic and does not affect gameplay. If you tried to delete the towers in AoE2 you wouldn't get a cheaper wall that was just as effective, you'd get a cheaper wall with holes in it that the enemy could walk straight through. For AoE2, the resource and build time savings come from tricks to put down gates without having to build a wall to place the gate in first.
I just don't understand why pillarless wall was not officially set as default
when do u think they will fix the bugs??
The more pillars the more hitpoints your wall Will have over the same length
Was waiting for this video for the whole year.
Thanks for the tips, i was wondering if i could do this in the definitive edition 🙂
Sorry but I didnt understand how to delete only pillars... I have to select every pillar and then press delet, exist another way? I try making double click on pillars but all the wall is selected. I take too much time selecting only pillars one by one...
There is a hot key that selects "all units" you press that hotkey after selecting a pillar then delete them.
You know what would've been nice to know? WHY pilarless walls are imortant.
According to them, woodcost. So u save some worthless change
And the settler work time saved
Rod limitless on twitch the "rank 1 waller" literally just went over that in this last stream
This is very useful information thank you for posting this.
they really should remove this from the game..
yeup
Or make them have more hp.
@@mehmetilbasan4383 Having pillars have more hp would not be such a bad idea in balancing them so people keep them around. Though the risk is that someone try to develop a pillar only strategy. But I guess the amount of time you would have to spend to optimize that eats up any gains you would have.
Either way I want pillars to be viable since the walls looks better that way. Of course, they could simply make better looking pillarless walls but that would likely take a lot of effort. But some splines wall building algorithm could solve that in theory. But again. It is a bit hard core to do so since is not the easiest thing to actually program in (Modders show me that I am wrong! 😃 ). Would be pretty cool however if you just could paint curvy walls.
@@Cythil I think it's best if the cost of pillars simply get reduced down to cost 1 wood.
@@ShemTMOfficial Hmm... true. One could reduce the cost to. But one still need to balance it with the HP. I am sure it can be figured out what is the best media solution. 😉
Maybe noob question but how do you stop the villager from starting to build the wall while you are laying the pre fabs
can you please make a video on how to build fixed guns?
i saw a video here on yt and when i tried, it didn't work
Once you go pireless you never come back.
Been doing this since the original.
I still can’t get through a game without it crashing
Hi, my hotkey menu look diferent, why?
Anybody have a grid hotkey profile for wars of liberty?
I don't get this I'm trying on Asian dynasties and it's not working
Whats the problem on having pillars?...
the pillar is 5 wood. the wall is also 5. to make ONE wall, it costs you 15 wood, to make two walls, it costs 25, to make 3 walls, it costs 35. Or wall*2 + 5. Deleting the pillars gives you the wood back (when you delete it before building it).
Pillars double the necessary cost and build time. If you don't mind the cost or time then no need to worry about practicing this skill ;).
Ofc they need move away of the Middle wall. Omg
tnx
i like this always hated players who walled up their bases.
* laughs in Portuguese *
Well thats part of the game
I want to build fortress walls
Real warriors never build walls.
Haven’t had a single game crash yet running DE on max graphics. The 2070 super is killing it.
Cyber power is selling a really nice build for ~$1400. Got it for myself for my bday and everything is flawless. Next purchase: 4K TV!
Dive into Reddit. I spent a total of $1315 for shipping and all. At that price, it’s actually cheaper than building it yourself. Only thing I’d like to change is the liquid cooling system but that’s just cause I don’t like the idea of water inside my cpu! And an upgrade in RAM at some point.
"cheaper than building yourself" lmao
@@Flowey-the-Flower press x to doubt
@@Flowey-the-Flower
Do some research. With everything you get in this build including keyboard and mouse and shipping from either the parts website or Best Buy, you’re spending the same or more building it yourself.
@@Flowey-the-Flower $1215 pretax and including shipping.
Were you using cheats lol? I recognize the build speed and resource collection speed because I used to always use cheats in the Asian Dynasties in single player against the AI to make the game a bit more fun XD
That's basically noobish cause in a real game you need your APM early game. It's very unlikely to be worth it.
watch any pro game and this is what they are doing.
@@HamburgerHat1 I haven't said that. Just that for me I lose APM for some low wood. Not worth it.
OMG this is what i look for, thks sam.. still love this game bcause of u 🤎
Thanks a lot!