I saw this video and the first thing that came into my head was a load of Scotland fans at the Euros singing "Are you Scotrail in disguise" when their train was delayed.
As someone from New Zealand and have just visited Germany earlier this year, Germain rail is AMAZING! I was able to get around the entire country to even tiny villages by taking rail, and they have multiple trains per day! Here, unless you're in the biggest city or the capital city, there is basically no rail, except for the odd tourist train that passes through every other day.
@izil1fe the German railways are incredible, they're simply not well maintained and ran. But the network itself is so much better than most in the world
I question that DB AG has had a rise since it was founded 1993. The rise was already done by its predecessor Deutsche Bundesbahn, DB AG just had to roll out technological progress made before and do a bit further development. But the Bundesbahn developed all major advances then important for large railroad operators all over the world despite it was underfunded all the time since its foundation after the second world war.
9:00 To be fair that "one in every 3" only accounts for long distance trains. Regional trains are more punctual. Since long distance trains run over longer distances (who would have thought) and often troughout the whole country, problems because of the network really start showing on those services
Absolutely. The cascade effect there is a big point. However, regional trains are not without their issues either, and many of my points absolutely apply
Even if you don't see regional trains "officially announced" with a delay of an hour (or even more) very often, you still have trains being cancelled altogether because of "a delay from a previous journey" … or the train doesn't go all the way to its (scheduled) terminus but starts the return journey early to catch up the delay. If your stop is cancelled then you're still running late (and the next train may be too crowded to get on because now those who planned taking that train and those who actually wanted to take the previous train that was cancelled are squeezing in… probably on a train with "some cars missing").
At this point I don't even know if the "1000 minutes Verspätung" is real or not A colleague took a photo of the screens in U-Bahn giving the next train in 376 minutes
7:10 Greatest butcher in railway history, he simply scrapped over 10.000 any of rolling stock, even younger ones such on age 7. He had resprayed white Z on wagons which stands for Zerlengung which stands for scrapping, it was saw on all type of DB wagons such as steel coil wagons, hopper, grain wagons. He was rensposible for all of confusion and delay with his controversial MORA C (Cargo) and P (passenger) program. He ruined private wagon leasors such as GE Rail Services, VTG, Railship, stoling their wagons, hiding and scrapping them without company knowing it. He also demolishes freight wagon transportation by ferry in Baltic sea. Many customers who used freight trains got their switch points taken away or even worse sidings, sold lands. Besides his destructipn on DB, he destroyed DSB, NS and British EWL railway by boughting them, DSB has got no anymore their freight wagons thanks tl him. All gone and scrapped. From all DSB wagons probarčy 60 survived them.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Yep, my friend who was supposed a train driver told me everything about him. I first throught all boxcars are in service (hbillns) but 70 percent are cut. Shame how one of greatest railways in the world like DB have to be 'ruined'. Literally on google earth you can find all switch points taken away from the companies who used trains, basically in every corner. Munchen for example i count over 80 companies who are affected by Mehdorn's MORA C, such as TV Kohlensaure, Poco, MediaMarkt, BMW, Bentley, Volkswagen OTLG warehouses, Mercedes Benz Trucks, Linde Gas, Air Liquide, even fruit warehouses, paulaner beer and heating plant. Hamburg is also affected really badly.
For a future video topic, I'd suggest doing a video on Germany's various attempts at maglevs, how successful they are, and what the future for them might be.
two train trips from Fankfürt to Düsseldorf last summer. Both delayed 1 hour, staff was completely clueless and i missed my return flight (i napped until next plane), don't recommend.
Funny thing here in Hannover.. When the S-Bahn was still operated by DB, it was quite Ok.. now its operated by a private company (Transdev Hannover GmbH) and NOTHING works.. They dont have enough drivers,trains or maintenance facilities... Pretty much ZERO trains run on time.. Theyve already been fined for their terrible performance and breaking their contractual obligations..
so in the rhein ruhr region they said that the S-68 will be running again. every f*cking morning I wait for my train to school and I hear "S-68 nach Wuppertal Hbf fällt heute aus, Grund dafür ist ein kurzfristiger personalausfall" nice
Truer words haven't been spoken! You deserve a lot more views and subscribers! I think that it will get better after 2030 or so. They just let the rail network too much fall apart to restore it any time sooner. Also, the high speed link Hamburg-Hannover needs to come as soon as possible. It's depressing that it hasn't been build yet. Maybe you could make a Video on that topic. Thanks for reading
Great and very insightful video! While I don't live in Germany, I work for a German company and have many German friends. If the privatization continues, I'm expecting something similar that happened to us after (mainly German companies) forced our government to fully privatize our previously state-owned railways - an increase in ticket prices (which went up almost 100% in the last few years), and a VERY STEEP decrease in punctuality. A lot of my friends from all across Germany also gave me some interesting insight into the whole reunification thing (which I didn't get before, because our education system is almost on the same level as the USA's). The reunification wasn't really unification, where they'd merge parts of both systems (unsurprisingly). It was a complete annexation of the DDR, and destruction of everything in the east that could pose a threat. All DDR institutions were liquidated, bought by western companies, and most of them completely dissolved so they wouldn't pose a threat to the new government. The western part also used the opportunity presented by the elimination of eastern institutions to abuse the easteners as much as possible, and extract as much profit from the as possible. And since the western part no longer had to institutionally compete with the east, they could afford to start these enshittification measures; because who would stop them? The DDR was no longer around, so they could do practically whatever they wanted. This botched annexation now results in a ton of problems all across Germany. But this is not a political channel, so I wouldn't want to go into too much irrelevant detail :P Like I said at the beginning, great video, and I'm glad the algorithm worked for once.
Actually, feel free to get into the political nitty-gritty! These are important things worth discussing. After all, I'd argue everything in the DB story is politics
@@TFTSB If the other Warsaw Pact states are any examples to go off, the state railway companies were powerful and influential entities. PKP for example was called "the state within a state" by the Poles. I'd say it definitely falls under the category of political critique, especially with how one government after another has treated them after the fall of the USSR.
If it were up to the people actually running Deutsche Bahn, the operation would work like a Swiss watch. Politics decided to go other ways by inflating the number of nincompoops playing managers, allowing to deprive the operation from necessary funds by investing into just about everything else but the own railway.
One German told me he thought the state owned 10% of DB, and another 40% - so clearly they don't know their own system so well. As the video says DB AG is 100% owned by the government and so was never privatised, which doesn't stop some people insisting that privatisation was a mistake and shouting about renationalisation. It suits politicians that DB is quasi-independent : they can distance themselves from any responsibility. But that's changing now - at least until 2025 when Germany's new CDU-AfD coalition will reverse it all. The thing that's always missed is the role of regional trains, and they make up something like 93% of journeys (but probably 0.1% of RUclips videos). DB is responsible for almost all of the infrastructure and almost all of intercity trains, but regional trains are run by private operators who bid for franchises in a way that's not too dissimilar to what happens (or happened) in the UK. The biggest of these is DB itself with DB-Regio, but they certainly don't have a monopoly and others have familiar names (to Brits) like National Express and GoAhead. If your regional train is cancelled due to a driver shortage you can bet that DB gets the blame even though it may be nothing to do with them. The 16 German states award these contracts so it's the politicians that are really to blame if they give it to the lowest bidder and the service turns out to be crap. Go Ahead Deutschland was actually recently sold to the ÖBB - that is the Austrian state railway, that I believe is also an AG. So this thing about acting like a business and trying to make money by operating abroad is certainly not just DB.
@@Canleaf08 Re: Schenker. Schenker was very profitable, so DB must have been doing something right. Those Canadians sending stuff were uninentionially funding the German railways and saving the German taxpayer (like me) money- which was nice of them. DB has now sold Schenker and as a result has €14bn to spend. So overall you'd have to say it was a good thing.
Sad to see it, but it’s not that much different in The Netherlands as well. I wish NS (Dutch Railways) a much better future, without all this privatization nonsense. Public transport should never be for-profit. The benefits of a properly functioning public transportation system for a country and its citizens, greatly outweighs any financial losses in my opinion.
Should also be pointed out that during the Soviet Occupation the Red Army gutted the East German railways after the Second World War, including taking away electrification and downgrading most routes to single track, with the materials sent back to the Soviet Union as 'war reparations' - a lot of that still hasn't been rebuilt 35 years on from the Fall of the Berlin Wall.
Germans probably ripped out more railway then the soviets did. Since 1990 they probably have deactivated ~5000km of railway. The situation in DB has absolutly nothing to do with the soviets…
@@Slithermotion It has a lot to do with the soviets, with a lot of budgets being diverted to the east to get a very mistreated east-german network back to a semi reasonable state. Note the route the Eurocities from Berlin to Prague take as they leave Berlin, it's utterly insane. This routing is caused by the soviets just stupidly removing track on the correct route, and now it's a double zig zag.
@@nanderv And in all those 30 years the DB had the possibilty to build it new… but didn‘t. In the same timeframe china built it‘s entire network. Sure the soviets took railway… but that was decades ago even the creating of the DB is ~30 years ago. And in those 30 years DB itself deactivated thousands of Railway and even removed them. Again nobody can tell me that the problems of the german railway is caused by the soviets. At this point it‘s just a lack of competence on DB side and political decisions in the german goverment.
DB. It's bad now. Not as bad as trains in North-America, but still really bad. But relative to Northern European standards... and nowadays to many southern-European standards as well. Let's talk again in 15 years, it might be better than.
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Get it ???
Ofcourse you wont
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I saw this video and the first thing that came into my head was a load of Scotland fans at the Euros singing "Are you Scotrail in disguise" when their train was delayed.
STILL BETTER THAN AMTRAK💩🕳
As someone from New Zealand and have just visited Germany earlier this year, Germain rail is AMAZING!
I was able to get around the entire country to even tiny villages by taking rail, and they have multiple trains per day!
Here, unless you're in the biggest city or the capital city, there is basically no rail, except for the odd tourist train that passes through every other day.
Same here in Canada.
no its not rofl.
@izil1fe the German railways are incredible, they're simply not well maintained and ran. But the network itself is so much better than most in the world
I question that DB AG has had a rise since it was founded 1993. The rise was already done by its predecessor Deutsche Bundesbahn, DB AG just had to roll out technological progress made before and do a bit further development. But the Bundesbahn developed all major advances then important for large railroad operators all over the world despite it was underfunded all the time since its foundation after the second world war.
As a DB worker.
There is no rise in sight. just stagnation after a long fall a very long fall
9:00 To be fair that "one in every 3" only accounts for long distance trains. Regional trains are more punctual. Since long distance trains run over longer distances (who would have thought) and often troughout the whole country, problems because of the network really start showing on those services
Absolutely. The cascade effect there is a big point. However, regional trains are not without their issues either, and many of my points absolutely apply
Long distance trains that aren’t high speed are unreliable globally some are worse than others they are all 💩 tho
Even if you don't see regional trains "officially announced" with a delay of an hour (or even more) very often, you still have trains being cancelled altogether because of "a delay from a previous journey" … or the train doesn't go all the way to its (scheduled) terminus but starts the return journey early to catch up the delay. If your stop is cancelled then you're still running late (and the next train may be too crowded to get on because now those who planned taking that train and those who actually wanted to take the previous train that was cancelled are squeezing in… probably on a train with "some cars missing").
At this point I don't even know if the "1000 minutes Verspätung" is real or not
A colleague took a photo of the screens in U-Bahn giving the next train in 376 minutes
I saw a train at Harburg marked 600 minutes late yesterday lol
7:10 Greatest butcher in railway history, he simply scrapped over 10.000 any of rolling stock, even younger ones such on age 7. He had resprayed white Z on wagons which stands for Zerlengung which stands for scrapping, it was saw on all type of DB wagons such as steel coil wagons, hopper, grain wagons. He was rensposible for all of confusion and delay with his controversial MORA C (Cargo) and P (passenger) program. He ruined private wagon leasors such as GE Rail Services, VTG, Railship, stoling their wagons, hiding and scrapping them without company knowing it. He also demolishes freight wagon transportation by ferry in Baltic sea. Many customers who used freight trains got their switch points taken away or even worse sidings, sold lands. Besides his destructipn on DB, he destroyed DSB, NS and British EWL railway by boughting them, DSB has got no anymore their freight wagons thanks tl him. All gone and scrapped. From all DSB wagons probarčy 60 survived them.
Wow, that is wrecking on a massive scale!
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Yep, my friend who was supposed a train driver told me everything about him.
I first throught all boxcars are in service (hbillns) but 70 percent are cut.
Shame how one of greatest railways in the world like DB have to be 'ruined'.
Literally on google earth you can find all switch points taken away from the companies who used trains, basically in every corner. Munchen for example i count over 80 companies who are affected by Mehdorn's MORA C, such as TV Kohlensaure, Poco, MediaMarkt, BMW, Bentley, Volkswagen OTLG warehouses, Mercedes Benz Trucks, Linde Gas, Air Liquide, even fruit warehouses, paulaner beer and heating plant.
Hamburg is also affected really badly.
0:21 when you realise the train will be arriving at 05:44 in the morning.
16 hours late lmao
For a future video topic, I'd suggest doing a video on Germany's various attempts at maglevs, how successful they are, and what the future for them might be.
two train trips from Fankfürt to Düsseldorf last summer. Both delayed 1 hour, staff was completely clueless and i missed my return flight (i napped until next plane), don't recommend.
0:58 it must be really bad if people shot the departure display.
Funny thing here in Hannover..
When the S-Bahn was still operated by DB, it was quite Ok..
now its operated by a private company (Transdev Hannover GmbH) and NOTHING works..
They dont have enough drivers,trains or maintenance facilities...
Pretty much ZERO trains run on time..
Theyve already been fined for their terrible performance and breaking their contractual obligations..
I had no idea! Perhaps I will need to cover this sometime
@@TFTSB Its a mess...
Could make an interesting video
Love your presenting style - you've got a new fan! Thanks RUclips algorithm!
so in the rhein ruhr region they said that the S-68 will be running again.
every f*cking morning I wait for my train to school and I hear "S-68 nach Wuppertal Hbf fällt heute aus, Grund dafür ist ein kurzfristiger personalausfall"
nice
never play jet lag in Germany...
that's why their latest season moves to Italy lol
That kinda makes it better lol
Oh, I just saw this video only has 3k views. I just saw it in my recommended. Very professional feel. I liked it!
Thank you so much!
Truer words haven't been spoken! You deserve a lot more views and subscribers! I think that it will get better after 2030 or so. They just let the rail network too much fall apart to restore it any time sooner. Also, the high speed link Hamburg-Hannover needs to come as soon as possible. It's depressing that it hasn't been build yet. Maybe you could make a Video on that topic. Thanks for reading
Thank you so much!
DB and PKP competing for who can be the biggest meme among railway companies without even knowing it.
something you here on almost every German train.
"Wir entschuldigen uns für die Verspätung"
Idk. I always heard "Wir bitten um Entschuldigung"
Great video
first time i travelled on DB i apologised for being 15 minutes late. the person i was meeting told me, in germany, 15 minutes was early.
Great and very insightful video! While I don't live in Germany, I work for a German company and have many German friends.
If the privatization continues, I'm expecting something similar that happened to us after (mainly German companies) forced our government to fully privatize our previously state-owned railways - an increase in ticket prices (which went up almost 100% in the last few years), and a VERY STEEP decrease in punctuality.
A lot of my friends from all across Germany also gave me some interesting insight into the whole reunification thing (which I didn't get before, because our education system is almost on the same level as the USA's). The reunification wasn't really unification, where they'd merge parts of both systems (unsurprisingly). It was a complete annexation of the DDR, and destruction of everything in the east that could pose a threat. All DDR institutions were liquidated, bought by western companies, and most of them completely dissolved so they wouldn't pose a threat to the new government. The western part also used the opportunity presented by the elimination of eastern institutions to abuse the easteners as much as possible, and extract as much profit from the as possible. And since the western part no longer had to institutionally compete with the east, they could afford to start these enshittification measures; because who would stop them? The DDR was no longer around, so they could do practically whatever they wanted.
This botched annexation now results in a ton of problems all across Germany.
But this is not a political channel, so I wouldn't want to go into too much irrelevant detail :P
Like I said at the beginning, great video, and I'm glad the algorithm worked for once.
Actually, feel free to get into the political nitty-gritty! These are important things worth discussing. After all, I'd argue everything in the DB story is politics
@@TFTSB If the other Warsaw Pact states are any examples to go off, the state railway companies were powerful and influential entities. PKP for example was called "the state within a state" by the Poles. I'd say it definitely falls under the category of political critique, especially with how one government after another has treated them after the fall of the USSR.
If it were up to the people actually running Deutsche Bahn, the operation would work like a Swiss watch. Politics decided to go other ways by inflating the number of nincompoops playing managers, allowing to deprive the operation from necessary funds by investing into just about everything else but the own railway.
The German politicians need to realize that foamers would do literally a better job than the schmucks running DB.
With all the jokes about Deutsche Bahn at least the Germans have a sense of humor after all
One German told me he thought the state owned 10% of DB, and another 40% - so clearly they don't know their own system so well. As the video says DB AG is 100% owned by the government and so was never privatised, which doesn't stop some people insisting that privatisation was a mistake and shouting about renationalisation. It suits politicians that DB is quasi-independent : they can distance themselves from any responsibility. But that's changing now - at least until 2025 when Germany's new CDU-AfD coalition will reverse it all.
The thing that's always missed is the role of regional trains, and they make up something like 93% of journeys (but probably 0.1% of RUclips videos). DB is responsible for almost all of the infrastructure and almost all of intercity trains, but regional trains are run by private operators who bid for franchises in a way that's not too dissimilar to what happens (or happened) in the UK. The biggest of these is DB itself with DB-Regio, but they certainly don't have a monopoly and others have familiar names (to Brits) like National Express and GoAhead. If your regional train is cancelled due to a driver shortage you can bet that DB gets the blame even though it may be nothing to do with them. The 16 German states award these contracts so it's the politicians that are really to blame if they give it to the lowest bidder and the service turns out to be crap.
Go Ahead Deutschland was actually recently sold to the ÖBB - that is the Austrian state railway, that I believe is also an AG. So this thing about acting like a business and trying to make money by operating abroad is certainly not just DB.
@@Canleaf08 Re: Schenker. Schenker was very profitable, so DB must have been doing something right. Those Canadians sending stuff were uninentionially funding the German railways and saving the German taxpayer (like me) money- which was nice of them. DB has now sold Schenker and as a result has €14bn to spend. So overall you'd have to say it was a good thing.
3:24 The funny streamliner.
The Deutsche Bahn was "Kaputtgespart." Now things will get way worse while it spawns a couple dozen construction zones.
Sad to see it, but it’s not that much different in The Netherlands as well. I wish NS (Dutch Railways) a much better future, without all this privatization nonsense. Public transport should never be for-profit. The benefits of a properly functioning public transportation system for a country and its citizens, greatly outweighs any financial losses in my opinion.
Germans: "Trains suck here!"
Americans: "hold my beer."
Should also be pointed out that during the Soviet Occupation the Red Army gutted the East German railways after the Second World War, including taking away electrification and downgrading most routes to single track, with the materials sent back to the Soviet Union as 'war reparations' - a lot of that still hasn't been rebuilt 35 years on from the Fall of the Berlin Wall.
Germans probably ripped out more railway then the soviets did.
Since 1990 they probably have deactivated ~5000km of railway.
The situation in DB has absolutly nothing to do with the soviets…
@@Slithermotion It has a lot to do with the soviets, with a lot of budgets being diverted to the east to get a very mistreated east-german network back to a semi reasonable state.
Note the route the Eurocities from Berlin to Prague take as they leave Berlin, it's utterly insane. This routing is caused by the soviets just stupidly removing track on the correct route, and now it's a double zig zag.
@@nanderv And in all those 30 years the DB had the possibilty to build it new… but didn‘t.
In the same timeframe china built it‘s entire network.
Sure the soviets took railway… but that was decades ago even the creating of the DB is ~30 years ago.
And in those 30 years DB itself deactivated thousands of Railway and even removed them.
Again nobody can tell me that the problems of the german railway is caused by the soviets.
At this point it‘s just a lack of competence on DB side and political decisions in the german goverment.
40 years ago Germany didnt have a word for "train delay".
I usually say let’s just go back to the Behördenbahn (So reverse the privatization). Will it be better, maybe. But it can’t get much worse.
DB is NOT a "private company". The German Government are the biggest stakeholder and rules the roost if you will.
I believe Flixtrains run in Sweden and probably other countries too.
Flixtrain actually recently announced their operations in Sweden were ceasing
amazing video! ❤
Thank you tons!
Flixtrian is definitely a good alternative option!
It just got hit by the privatisation idea. And also because people think less money could go to rail. Its being holled out.
do you like the Deutschlandticket?
Hell yeah I do!
As bad as Germany's trains are, they are still more reliable than Amtrak.
One of these days, I'll tell the story about the one time I nearly got flooded out on an Amtrak train
Amtrak is straight up unusable
if the deutcland ticket is going to be cancelled i would vote for any party that would reinstate it ANY!
they run better then Train sim world know lol
DB. It's bad now. Not as bad as trains in North-America, but still really bad. But relative to Northern European standards... and nowadays to many southern-European standards as well. Let's talk again in 15 years, it might be better than.
You mean the fall and further fall of DB
jet-lag season 7: