SPEED UTV 264 MILE REAL REVIEW! NEW GEN 2 TRANS & 35" TIRES | CHUPACABRA OFFROAD
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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The first real review of the SPEED UTV In my opinion. Our first video was more of a "first impression" (because I had issues with my #,6 El Jefe at only 20 miles) but I after spending over 18 hours in the Speed last weekend, I think this qualifies as an official review.
Also, #18 is one of the production vehicles, and it has the most up to date transmission, steering components, and accessories.
There were no Speed employees with me, Robby Gordon basically gave me the keys and told me to go have fun, and create a video.
The brass tax: this is a very good machine, and will be competing with a Pro R for the top spot. I think the early buyers of Speed are getting a ton of performance for the price. yes, there are still a few teething issues, which is to be expected, but the car is very good. The low CG, handling and suspension performance are very good.
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Mr Speed built an amazing sxs 🤘🏽
Love the intro. Sounds like it handles amazing and is probably pretty quick with the speed key. I can't wait to feel how the entire chasis and geometry and shocks all come together for a car that handles better stock than most race cars. The hype is real,nobody can deny that. Great video. I am not liking all the small issues this close to production,but Robby being a perfectionists will get it right...
Nick: as always, you do a great job with your reviews. Rhon Utvrider here. We've met (at the Havasu Speed store). Thank you for putting this review together and posting it for all of us to enjoy. My El Jefe LE master number is in the mid 2500's, so I'm expecting to receive my car sometime this fall, which I'm totally fine with. I like those 35" Speed tires! And I agree that the Wilwood brake package is a good choice as well as the Eibach spring kit.
Keeping it real Nick! That's why your channel and your products have so much credibility.
Me personally think this car will be a hit when all said and done. Rob knows how to make a car handle properly.
I agree
Another awesome honest video. There's always room for improvement in everything. Just gets better with more seat time, in my opinion.
It’s a great treat to get home from having my shocks revalved and rebuilt in Vegas today and watch your really well done video. Now I really can’t wait to get out and ride some. Thanks for putting all the time and energy into producing your videos!
It sounds like running the stock 32” Speed tires or maybe a Tensor 33” DS would solve a couple of issues: how hard the power hits, the brakes being strong enough and belt life? 👍👍😎
Great review Nick. Without a doubt this is the best stock riding UTV as far as suspension goes! The Speed tires have great performance but you did not mention durability. I am at 750 miles on my Speed and these tires are very soft compound and I will be lucky if I make it to 1000 miles on them!
Thanks Randy, yes the stock tires wear super fast. But a buddy of mine helped Speed pit at Norra and said many of their tires looked great after 1,100 miles, maybe they mad ea running change on them? Hopefully so. Also, I blew out a rear tire at 18 psi. I hit a rock hard, but was a little surprised, I haven't done that in a while, with any tire brand. I think yoiu need to run higher psi in the Speed, it's so heavy, and deceivingly fast in the rough like you mentioned with the suspension.
Great video, thank you for sharing your adventure. I appreciate your honesty and integrity, I feel like your our only true link to a Speed review. Keep up the good work!
Those trails look so fun. What a great ride. Desert, mountains, snow and wildflowers. Awesome conditions. Look forward to getting my speed when they finally get delivered.
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What I really appreciate with Robby is how fast he improves parts wether from testing or racing. Even customers' imput are taken seriously. An example is Nick's #6 utv and the wiring harness issue he had getting caught in the drive train. Robby has already created a shield to protect the wire harness in that area. Other examples...oil tank was redesigned to lower the oil foaming and now holds an additional 2 quarts of oil. Tourqe axles were all redone. Gen 3 transmission in all SpeedUTV's. There's no doubt in my mind that Robby recognizes issues and at warp speed makes improvements.
I know I've made the correct decision by waiting on my SpeedUTV #710 RG El hefe. Robby is definitely an expert off-road and other disciplinary race car driver and has built a bad ass, safe, and reliable mini trophy truck. And out of the box!
By the way him and his engineers...are currently at the different factories, making sure his expectations in manufacturing excellence are being met.
Exactly, he called me both days from Vietnam to ask how the ride was going as well, the guy never sleeps and is obsessed with living up to his bold claims.
@@ChupacabraOffroad He is relentless...
@@dougpyne5191 Robby is like an unstoppable freight train! (Btw Doug, this is Rhon Utvrider!) 🙂
@@pecanpie100 HI 👋 Rhon! It's getting better every day.
@@dougpyne5191 It sure is!
Cool video, best of luck to Robby/SpeedUTV. I winter and ride in the Bullhead area and the trails are awesome. Went to Havasu couple weeks ago and checked out the store and saw the Speed UTV’s in person for the first time. They are great looking machines. Thanks for the update, keep the videos coming. Good luck with your machine hope it all works out, I’d like to own one in the future.
Ok. So to roll up some of the last few videos ( and I’m not slamming speed)
1) wiring is in place for all of the lighting. Cancel production lighting and go with Baja designs ( or what ever the owners favorite is like rigid or Sd lighting )
-2) cancel mirrors with lighting/ wait for convex mirrors and Baja squad pros.
3) aftermarket spring kit or upgrade springs from speed
4) big brake kit to support 35
5) speed or tensor DSR 35 inch tires.
6) mild turn to make it wake up in the low end or run the speed jet w E85
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You think about Robby's racing back ground and experience. With that zaid. You know all his knowledge went into this rig. That alone is worth its weight in gold. And for the price, compared to others. Its a no brainer.
Thanks for the great vid. I cant wait to get my diablo!! Great feedback on the car itself as well some of the parts and accessories.
Did you get to use the speed key on your ride?? Wonder how much that will help give it the extra bark it needs on 35s to make the car more pointy.
Look forward to some of your accessories for the speed car as well.
Didn’t get to use the speed key just yet… will be killer in the dunes but for rides like this E85 isn’t an option. It had plenty for the ride I’m just being picky and honest
Legit Footage Nick🤙🇺🇸 The SPEED Truck looks just like the real Trophies. I liked the parts over the dash & the cam pointed at yourself, you looked pretty comfortable. Thing floats over those G-outs Looks like a blast. Awesome feedback..
Handled G outs very well IMO
Great review. I’ve gotta say you AZ boys have some incredible riding down there wish I had that type of terrain where I live.
We are spoiled for sure, thank you
Awesome review Nick!
Thanks for the info!
Great review of the car, I think a little refinement, and it will be the best a utv can be.
How was the Halipi mts. ? We are headed out to do the AZPT for the 2nd time on April 7th, going clockwise starting in Yuma. We should end up at about 850 miles.
Thanks Nick. Good, honest info.
Adjusting the preload does not compress the spring unless your shock is completely extended. Any change to ride is due to the change in angles of the suspension and tire scrub.
Cool review, thanks! You mention a few times you thought the car was low, what was the ground clearance you rode it at?
Good review Nick 👏
Bulit aBaja bug in1973. MyFriend took 1st in class 5 at MickeyThompson Off Road stadium first one!
Great review man!
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My take of the review is that overall the car is pretty amazing in stock form and that with a few minor tweaks (and all SxS models people tweak) it will be one hell of a set up. Is that your take Nick? I'm #2052 rocking a Bandit LE
Basically, amazing platform to work off of and I also want a bandit. Going to be super beefy for a 2 seater
Oh nice #2053 el Jefe here
Well since you brought it up I have never met a utuber that has never received any product or discounts or benefits from suppliers. Let's face the fact that the more subscribers the more the temptation. Please just be honest it's OK. I don't own a sxs but enjoy the videos and have seen you eat a free meal or two wear t-shirts etc etc. sorry your right is also OK
Hands down the best looking car of the bunch.
Can’t wait to see some new content with that awesome speed utv
People who haven’t driven a trailing arm car like the XX or Speed really don’t know what they’re missing in the handling department.
The funny thing about that is it's not actually a big improvement, performs better in very loose material, performs worse on hard pack. It's biggest benefit is pretty much just that it has less moving parts. Radius arm pushes track width out on compression, and can be designed to gain camber angle under compression... trailing arm does not.
@@droolguy the problem with the radius rod cars is stability. You don’t want to lose width while gaining height, especially in corners. Watch a a radius rod car through a corner, the rear lifts up and gets skinnier. Higher CG and narrower width is not what you want when cornering
Liked your comments on the big brake kit. I invested in that kit having similar thoughts. Also What are your comments on the eibach spring package?
I need to try it, will either do it or have a tuner work their magic on it… will follow up once I have my car and go that route. Want to put a few hundred miles on the stock setup first
The beginning made me spit out my drink
Making the haters search for new complaints.... 😁
Great video...good info. I saw that pro r over at ninestar last week...sucks to tip it over on a fresh build.
This will be my first side-by-side. I’m curious as to how loud you think it is compared to some of the other ones especially if you’re not wearing a helmet.
It's more quiet than a Pro R and X3 (two loudest IMO). It's a little quieter than a RZR Turbo/ Turbo S. I love that part too, don't like too much noise.
I have noticed from videos I’ve seen that the car seems fairly quiet and I really like that.
I’m going to say something that I think Robby would tell you also. ALWAYS wear a helmet in your Speed car. ESPECIALLY since this is your first SxS. It’s such a high performance car that you can get into trouble so quickly. Congratulations on having one on the way! 😎
Great review!!
How are the compression and rebound adjustments? Are they easy to use?
very easy, break a lock nut loose and use an allen key to adjust Compression and Rebound
Killer intro :)
Hahaha I had to
Nick what do you think would give it some more pep down low? E85 tune gonna be good enough or is there anything your going to do to get a bit more engine performance?
Clutching, simple ECU tune. Being that it’s a turbo you have easy fixes, not to mention the speed key. Keep in mind this is for 35’s on terrain like this, at a higher speed it isn’t that big of a deal as it’s in motion and pulls hard up top
Were you running E85 with the Speed key? Looking forward to buying some of your SpeedUTV accessories?
Watch the video he answers that
Would love to know what trails you were on. Im always in havasu with my sxs and never know where to ride.
Check the AZ Peace Trail website, there are many variations, you can head to Bullhead City, Oatman, down to Wikieup, and more.
Nick did you happen to notice how easily or difficult window net removal might be?
I live in WY, so I'd like to pull the nets and add some vinyl windows for winter riding around here.
Thanks for handing out the first post release Speed info man! For us guys farther back in the master number pool this is HUGE!!
Very easy, should take no more than 15 minutes to remove all 4, if that.
@@ChupacabraOffroad Thanks Nick
Why didn't you drive your own Speed car.? I apologize if I missed ut, but why didnt you drive that beautiful gorgeous blue car?
freakin aweome video thanks for all the info
I gotta laugh......the Speed car blows a belt on a trip predominantly attended by RZRs and I literally can't find one comment on that happening. Why is that?? If one of the RZRs blew a belt, it would have made the morning news!
Just wait until the end user loads the car with people and gear......The reality is, once these are released, the public will find the weak links and the "glitches".
Thanks for the vid and that looked like my kinda ride!
Love to see drags in smooth sand and deep ruts against can am and pro r
No doubt I can’t wait to take it to Glamis
Did I hear correctly that there is better set of springs for the Speed car?
RG mentioned he carries Eibach
Good stuff Nick
thank you
sooo, whats next step to be up front again...lsk-x-travel suspension, hybrid charging batterydrive--direcht-E-drive and no belts anymore---honda next level up front turbo 230hb doubleclutch....and now, new x3 ...hope you think once about these thoughts
I live near kingman, whats the name of that trail or how do i find the route ??
Checkout the AZ Peace Trail website, lots of good info to help plan a ride from Kingman.
Damn what’s the hold up , it’s been 3-4 weeks like 3 months ago??
Looks like nice machine , I do lot Rock crawling in Havasu , love see take out 3 Amigos,sidewinder , blueberry, Candy ass trails see how performs on granite and waterfalls. Thx
Mark why are you not driving your UTV I must have missed it but it sounds like you’re happy with it
Does the car have a belt temp sensor and if so, what was the temp when the belt let go?
I know you like and respect Robbie but some of your comments and possible needs don't seem "out of the box" better like we were all hoping. Possibly needing upgraded springs is a biggie - just like my Can Am but this car is now quite a bit pricier than it was before and a Can Am plus more money to make it better or right. Again thank you, not try to bash Robbie as I want him to push them all to be better but did the car meet expectations you had for it and/or is it justified at the new price (not what you got in at)?
Thanks. Again, with all respect to your experience and no dis to Robbie
Does this trail system you drove have a name? Trail numbers? I'd like to drive there sometime.
It's a connection of many, the AZ Peace Trail website has some solid info to get you started.
Your x3 vs speed on that ride ? What would be more fun.
How many miles were on this car when you got it?
I saw when Nick stopped 75 miles into the ride that the odometer on the car was at 725 miles so by the end I guess the car had about 915 miles on it
@@michaelfilan3379 and that was just on the new trans
What do you think the mirror situation would be if you didn’t have the Nets and you can choose either the A or the B pillar
I'd for sure do the A= or B pillar, with our Cuero race mirrors up high, with LP4 lights (new mounts coming soon for those lights)
Sounds good I bought a set of your mirrors last year. They’re currently on my manx. I might have to buy a new mount since it might be a different tubesize
Realy the Suspension is better than rzr dynamix wow Bold statement
Better stock for sure, small bump compliance in the RZR's aren't that great, until you respring/ revalve. I think the RZR Dynamix is very good system and I like being able to switch, but it def lacked gooey plushness of my stock & tuned Can Am, and Speed.
How were the squeaks and rattles compared to other utv’s you’ve owned? Just watching many of the videos, they sound like they have a ton of squeaks. Also how’s that exhaust note? On video they sound like a chainsaw in the distance. Thanks
Minimal, I'll report back more once I get some miles on my car. I wear a helmet, honestly I need to cruise slow without it to really hear that sort of thing. The good news is that I've now spent time in 4 different Speed's so I have a much better idea of what it should sound like.
That things just so wide. I know a lot of trails I ride would be a pain in the ass having something that wide, but it looks like it’s gonna be sweet, hopefully they get all their bugs worked out.
Not really, compared to most of the other SxS's, unless you live somewhere with tight trails.
Any difficulties shifting the fly, did the trans growl, whine or make a constant noise?
No not really
Does the vented roof keep the dust from swirling inside the cab? My Rzr was terrible with the dust in the cab.
Hard to answer, I did get dusty, considering the conditions, people talk about this in relation to windshields etc but it's very hard to answer. Didn't seem dustier than any other UTV I've ever been in.
It almost sounds like a two stroke motor kinda like a jet ski wave runner type to me in my opinion. What kind of motor does it have? I am curious because of the sound it doesn’t sound like the others.
It's his own design from scratch. Four stroke 999cc motor. Two cylinders and the pistons both fire on the same stroke. It has dual injectors and an Emtron Ignition. 225 hp with pump gas and 300hp with e85 race fuel.
You mentioned a couple of times that this car was not at the ride height you would want your car to be riding at. What was this car's ride height , and what height were looking for it to be/would you have yours set up to be at?
I think the front around 18" is what was mentioned, I will do a video testing 3 different settings once I take delivery of #6. I'm thinking 18" F 17.5" rear to start and see how it goes, very close to my X3.
The axle boots looked weird during the belt change. Any issues with them?
I noticed that but no issues.
Rugby court talked about putting a V8 in in and his side-by-side what about a GTR Skyline turbo motor with a force pistons and all the good stuff to make it 8:00 car instead of having a V8 with only 750 horsepower a problem having both and the and the side by sides
Nice review of the Speed. It should be the car that sets the "new" pace for S X S's...if you can afford one!
I know it is a small thing in the big piture but what did you think about the speed tires?
Best stock tire of any UTV, I think most customers should use them until they wear out.
Badass!
who is the builder of the suspension?
Are the shocks truly valved stock or is it revalved to Robby’s liking since it’s his car?
Stock
super like allways......
Thank you
amazing
do you know if the sway bar was in stock setting or stiffer setting?
Stock
Great info. What was the preload front and rear? What was the high/low and rebound setting for the stock settings? Full soft... how many clicks in? Just wandering how much adjustment I will have for dune trips. I had Ned really set up my X3 at full soft for trails and nailed it for dune trips. Great range of settings.
I'll do some videos on this once I have my car, trust me. I didn't measure all this given that it wasn't mine and a lack of time.
All cars have problems. Just have fun and be safe out there….
Did you use the speed key at all?
No, not yet. I will when I get my #6 car
Great review btw, just wondering if you got a chance to run the 300 h.p. speed key option. I am #3337 El Jefe LE and getting very excited but definitely not in a hurry as these small things need time...
great video were you running on e85
No, just 91
@@ChupacabraOffroad ty
So do you know when he’s going to start putting out more cars
Hard to wait for years
They should have 500+ to customers by end of Summer, maybe sooner.
Nick, nice video: Yet some points: 1) this is not a production customer car, so we still don't know what real world production Speed UTV will be like, its hard to measure on a UTV that could be re-worked ??...2) Speed still has yet to deliver any production cars that I'm aware of to actual customers. I have a Pro R since May of 22, with over 1500 miles on it already! if you order a speed UTV today you will be lucky to get your car by May 24! by then my Pro R will have 3000 miles and be over two years old! Glad I did not wait! Lastly will be interesting to see spare parts availability issues, ect once real cars get delivered! yet who knows when that will be. for today and tomorrow I will keep driving my Pro R. PS Pro R are gas hogs that's for sure, i already had to add a 6-gall aux fuel tank to mine! one of the few things i don't like about my Pro R!.
It's a sweet vehicle but it's crazy that you guys are just beta testers and don't actually have possession of these cars.
What’s crazy about it? They’re making sure everything is good to go before they release 20000 cars and have a stop ride order
@@Blazin2133 If you don't like the word crazy then let's use unusual. Its pretty unusual for a manufacturer to announce production vehicles are ready for customers when they actually aren't. You're allowed to 'visit' your car but not take it home. These aren't production vehicles yet and it really just seems like RG was up against the wall from purchasers to 'release' the cars. These first 20 or so 'production' cars should have had the shit driven out of them for hundreds to thousands of miles before offering them to customers. By the time this 'new' vehicle get's home it will have several hundred miles on it and an assortment of repairs and fixes applied to it. I'm guessing the car currently has 300 miles on it and it looks (and sounds like from this review) like it's been through triple that with belts replaced, wiring harness replaced, transmission replaced. Speed should turn around and sell these units as used/PRE-production and Nick should get a new vehicle, just like he paid for.
@@JeremyLynnes It’s also standard practice for other brands to release vehicles knowing that their vehicles aren’t ready. Think “Stop Ride.” But that’s ok huh because customers have them in person, they just can’t drive them. Robby isn’t releasing anything until it’s right, hence why they are still testing and fixing things before they mass produce a whole bunch of vehicles. They can’t afford a Stop ride. Have you not been watching over the last 3 years? They have been driving them 1000’s of miles and more than just a few cars. You do realize that the car being driven here isn’t Chupacabra’s car? It’s a speed car.
@@Blazin2133 The 'stop ride' counterpoint is so tired. Of course things are going to go wrong with every vehicles. Yes, I have been keeping up with all this because I want one of these, but god knows I don't want a first year model after seeing all this. Those vehicles that they've been testing the past year or so were not production vehicles. Engine issues? Belt issues? Wiring harness issues? Transmission issues? I don't understand why people get so defensive when these points are made, what do you have to gain? You're right on Nick driving a speed car and not his own car but that almost makes it worse - now you're just borrowing someone else's because yours is non functional. I want to see RG and Speed succeed because when I buy one I want to be able to get service/parts after the fact but how they've handled this leaves a lot to be desired. There is no need to be a SpeedUTV apologist.
@@JeremyLynnes it’s not his car he’s running it’s one of speeds test post production cars
hahahloved the initial joke
No matter what I say people will say it’s bias… 🤷🏻♂️
I want to meet a group to go on rides like this.
8 months 37K. It's all good.
How many of the other cars blew a belt?
none
Was the pro r s on 35 s also
Yes
Very good and honest report I think sounds like it’s a good platform for sure
Great Video. You keep this up I just might sell my Girlfriend and 2 X wifes to buy one. LOL
its hard to heare from others there impressions of theres speed....its very quiet....
Hard to do a review when you're already a big fan of a car. I thought you did a good job though 👏
Thing sounds like a vacuum cleaner lol
Why is it so heavy. 600 lbs more than most.
Speed should have done more with the brakes, not happy a guy has to invest more money to run a 35
I Still have a giant question no one is talking about and that's why is Nick's car and all the other cars not released yet????? Does speed UTV have the federal ROPs certification on those cars?? I was in Havasu 2 weeks ago at the showroom and not a single person tried to ask if I was interested or wanted to buy one of their cars.
Speed is updating the transmissions in them, they are sold out of pre orders so bo point in asking you if you want one.
How will you ever make any money off of accessories for a Speed UTV? Speed doesn't allow that.
Honda no belt.
Lots of gear noise it seems
Not really
Someone ran out of skill @46:00
Way to early to break a belt
can i barrow $50 bucks lol
Ha once I get paid for this bias review I'll hook you up....
@@ChupacabraOffroad thats whats up! but for real awesome video and i cant wait for more content on it that your planning to bring out! break downs( not often) changing parts, upgrades, tuning, most of all new accessories
Seriously can sell your car @ 100k by may
Haha I would never! But don't tempt me....
Might as well! Then get another one in a year or two when all the kinks are worked out
@@ChupacabraOffroad sell it for 100k
Re Buy speed utv and pro R win win 🏆
@@allmotorhash I want to sell my X3 and get a Bandit now... 🤔
@@ChupacabraOffroad PRO R is nothing like the old Turbo S
They rushed this thing to market and it’s obviously not ready. And when i say rush i know that sounds funny considering how late the car is but man you can’t be at production phase and have all these issues.
Rushed? You mean the same way Polaris uses their customers as beta testers? 😂
What are you talking about lol? Have you seen the Polaris stop rides haha
@@mattobrien2511 Polaris has plenty of their own issues fanboi. Getting crushed by the weak roll cage or catching on fire are some of the most well known Polaris problems that have resulted in class- action lawsuits.