What James Sicily's comments expose about the reality of a Tassie team - Footy Classified
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Eddie McGuire tells Footy Classified the latest on the AFL's search for its next CEO, before the panel delves into Tasmania's bid for an AFL team, including Hawthorn captain James Sicily's recent comments he would find it 'difficult' to live there. Sicily has since apologised for the comments.
0:00 - Latest on AFL CEO search
2:35 - Tasmania's bid
8:05 - Sicily's comments & the development issue in Tassie
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Love how Eddie manages to drop a little Billy Shakespeare, somehow again managing to turn a stadium deal and expansion club into what seems like Night of the Long Knives. He knows how to whip it up 😂
Mate put more eloquently than Eddie
Night of the long knives 😂😂😂 amazing haha
Eddie should be CEO of the AFL
You nailed it 😂
😂😂😂
I watched this shitshow last night. I loved the stats on numbers of players from Tassie. Only 3% of AFL players are from Tasmania. Yeah well only 4.7% of AFL players are from Queensland. Yet Queensland have TWO teams. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
You've completely missed the point. It's far easier to sell Queensland as a destination to play/live for interstate players therefore the low participation rate of QLD born players in the AFL is irrelevant as there are other factors which make playing in QLD far more appealing (lifestyle, weather etc). The argument is that Tasmania however will rely heavily on a base of Tasmanian born players who in theory are more likely to want to stay as they will have a much harder time convincing players to move down there.
Queensland is a large state that doesnt have a fishbowl spotlight since League takes up so much attention from the media. You can convince guys to live in Brisbane but good luck getting them to Launceston.
@@AtariPCnet plus it took Brisbane decades to become a strong team.
Comparing the glorious state of QLD to the asshole of Australia 😂😂😂😂
@Donkey Kong Yep, which is why I don't hold much hope for Tassie. Yes they're a footy State but have a tiny population and will struggle to keep players there.
Well, it's always nice to watch a panel show where most of the panel don't get to talk.
Lol 😂
It's all about McGuire's comments
There is a reason kids can’t wait to leave Tassie for uni or work after high school! It’s a great place to live in once you are 35 years old plus
Get back to north clarko. Actually it's pop growth is the biggest now since after the 2nd WW and the forecast growth is huge as long as it remains "reginal" . Mona has had a big effect.
unfortunate then that afl players are all below 35
James is a flog
Sicily gets punished for telling the truth and he wasn't even harsh about it... strange world we live in.
What about the small major sponsor deal his club has with Tasmania. Be like Dangerfield saying Ford's are no good I'd never have one I'd only have my volkswagen.
Well he has to go to Launceston after all...Hobart is a different world.
Backwards AF if you ask me!
Good on him for being honest. He was made to backtrack though. One thing about the AFL, you can never dare be honest.
@@marklayton9805 I get that the timing isn't so good on Sicily's end so but the Ford comparison is a stretch. He didn't say Hobart is bad, he just said that it's a hard sell to expect young guys to want to move there which is 100% true. It's a lovely city albeit unexciting for young people compared to Melbourne.
Sicily speaks his mind, gets crucified. No wonder why players are revolting against certain media people.
That's why he's getting hung on this... because he's adversarial to them to begin with.
I can think of 27 million reasons why he got hung out
Do you understand how sponsorship works? Lets say nike signs you up and you say they are make crappy shoes. Cmon bruh think
Difference is you will keep more people in Tassie, because of two things, one it is only one hour to Melbourne, two tassie is just better than the Gold Coast.
Lived in Brisbane for a while and visited the Gold Coast frequently - but, would never wanna live there...agree that Tassie is better.
Your not thinking very clearly if you think any young male between the ages of 17 and 30 would want to live in tasmania
@luca830 Yeah. As you get older Tassie would be your choice but as a young cashed up footballer??
Never heard anyone ever say "I'm moving to Tasmania"
@Bobby Phatts My point exactly. If I was an older guy, say 30, towards the back end of my career I would consider it. But not if I was 20, cashed up and ready to party.
all we want is players to speak their mind and have an opinion... When a player speaks their mind 😱
All Damo there. He clearly has an agenda against Hawthorn.
@@absxx618 to be honest. We don't really want players to speak their minds.
@@leaderofnoone9087 That's rubbish mate. It's the players game after all. What do you wanna do listen to a bunch of journos who haven't touched a footy in their life?? I don't get it 😂
@@absxx618 My comment wasn't about journalist, but actually about the general public don't want players to speak their minds.
Eddie should be sedated before the show starts. Maybe that would let the other panellists get a word in edgewise.
Maybe let Damian Barrett close his mouth as well, thank goodness for Eddie because that man was trying his best to have a crack at Hawthorn.. ONCE AGAIN
The 3 Tassie fans who actually go to Hawks games might boo him next time they play there
Tasmanian's generally believe that the State should have its own team however, 2/3 of Tasmanians don't want this proposed stadium. There is also not the population to support the obscene cost. Perth has 4 times the population of the whole State of Tasmania.
2/3? HAHAHAHAHAHAH yeah ok
@@FranticMonster11yeah 2/3 rds, election proved that , jack jumpers will do fook the afl , who won the basket ball grandfinal ????? Wasn’t the fookin devils hey fook Eddie and Gillan
Probably the perfect place for a footy team, I'd say the drink, drugs and trashy girls are holding a fair few young blokes back at the clubs on the main land.
Spot on. It's really funny how almost nobody is mentioning this.
As a Pies supporter, I keep finding it harder and harder to think I ever liked Eddie McGuire.
I know right , he was never this annoying on who wants to be a looser sorry millionaire
Tasmania stadium doesn’t need a roof
Yep, it's a stupid theory. It's clearly a way of the AFL saying they don't want a Tassie club unless the state pays full price.
The only state or territory capital to recieve less rainfall than Hobart is Adelaide. And as breezy as it can get in Hobart during winter, there are far colder climates in Eurupe and North America, and some professional sports clubs over there get sellout crowds regardless of weather.
Yes it does as those games in Hobart are almost unwatchable with a bloody 5 goal wind 💨 blowing one way all day!!
This isn’t a Mickey Mouse competition and you need to get with the times and provide the best possible facilities for your players,staff and supporters both at the ground and on TV 📺!!!
It does if you want a high quality game and bums on seats.
I mean it did snow at a Blundstone game last year
Wrong. You watch games in Tassie where you kick the ball one way, and it flies 30+ metres the other way. The average weather conditions of Tasmania during a football season aren't typically conducive to AFL style football. We can talk for hours about what AFL looks like now, and sure when players salaries average $180k they should be able to deal with a bit of wind, but the other reality is selling tickets to a venue and attracting a crowd when it's an open air stadium. For AFL to grow in Tassie, Tassie needs a roofed stadium. I don't always like or agree with Eddie, but he's nailed this, because he knows football.
Taasies appeal will be lifestyle, like Geelong.
Geelong is still close to Melbourne, some players may want to move there but the majority of AFL players wont want to live in Tassie.
@@raphaelkoch1573 We will see. Great place to start a family.
@@john8443 Even Sicilly said they will struggle to get guys there, most AFL draftees are city guys who also study at UNI mostly in Melbourne. It will appeal to some but not the majority.
Geelong is literally less than a 1hour drive into the CBDof Melbourne. Comparing tassie too Geelong is silly.
@@dendraki i mean its a 45 minute flight to Melbourne but it is different
Tasmanians Love ❣their football. They will come. . .
I don't know. I don't think anyone can argue, that per capita, Tasmanian fans will be more passionate than any other club fan base in the country. Hobart is a really nice city and Tasmania is a beautiful place to travel. Launceston and Hobart get bigger crowds than GWS and the Suns get at their own home grounds for Hawthorn and North matches and I'm sure they will find creative ways to ensure they play some home games in Launceston and engage regional Tasmanians to get behind the team and make sure there isn't a Hobart-Launceston divide. Tasmania will be the only one-state team. Watch this space.
it isn't just the potential cost blowouts just to build the stadium, it would be better off just to play it safe and throw $1.5 billion at the development of the new stadium with a retractable roof, so that way it can also serve as a Cricket field, have at least 40,000 seats, as well as a venue for other events like concerts.
there are also a few other issues that will arise because of a 19th team, the talent pool, to either reduce the comp by a team, or add another team, and currently after Tassie is announced and I expect it to happen, there are still two other locations with official bids, Darwin for an NT team, and Auckland on the other side of the Tasman, another roofed stadium needs to be built in Darwin, but this time with airconditioning. and the AFL needs to figure out how they are going to keep developing players to ensure the talent pool isn't being stretched to capacity.
So the main question, who would make up the 20th team? because the AFL is going to have to announce the 20th team a year or two after the expected affirmative announcement this weekend, and to have that team fielded by the 2031 season at the latest.
Thats because teams dont look at Tassie enough for players. Sandringham players are already on their VFL lists. The talent is there, the support is there.
Changing the game i fell in love with when I was 10, I cant be the only one thats fed up
I would have a promotion/relegation system, with the top 12 in the AFL A League play each other twice then a top 5 finals series for the flag(bottom side goes down to the B league following season) & the bottom 7 in the AFL B league play each other 4 times with the top side going up the following season to AFL A..
They can’t put a roof on if they are gonna want to play Test Cricket due to the rules that Test Cricket can’t be played with a roofed stadium
Well that's 100% incorrect lol
12:00 I could hear James Sicily making noises when he backed up on that issue.
Most of tasmania doesn't want a new stadium and we don't need it
Its not financially viable
Grass roots football is dying all over the country
Regional & local metro clubs ,volunteers are folding & disappearing in droves
Many can't get people to umpire games or serve as match officals
I think the AFL said they want a new stadium.hoping it would kill the deal
Ooops ...it hasnt
Why they want a roof open space is good.
Eddie: "fait accompli". Also Eddie: "Grouse".
An intellectual yobbo 😂
Bloody hell, these Melbourne-centred drama loving dinosaurs... Tasmania is a beautiful place and a proper footy state - you don't need a big city to have a good life (in fact it might be detrimental) I bet you they build a way better club than Gold Coast and even GWS.
I'm not Victorian but they're correct, most young men arn't going to want to live in Tassie esepcially when most AFL players are also studying at Uni and are drafted from larger cities, beautiful place or not that's just reality.
Travelled and lived in every state from 18 - 28 and not once was Tassie ever on my radar. It's just not an appealing place for young men to go.
@@mytwosense9135 Good luck convincing an 18 year old bloke from Melbourne who has a couse lined up at Melbourne uni to stay in Tassie.
C’mon Ed - always been a fan but you give an added sentence or two with every comment and speak over others - other panelists always fighting to get their comments in, and cannot take a breath in fear of you going again.
the government wastes at least 50Billion a year, so why not get a massive stadium for 1.5?? at least there is something to show for it
You may be right, it's just my personal preference. I also have concerns about the dwindling pool of talent at AFL level to fill the Tasmanian team which will dwell on the bottom of the ladder for many years methinks.
Why the push for Tassie stadium to have roof???
All the best AFL stadiums don't have one.
I think it's because of some of the stuff they spoke about in the video. Cold weather, strong winds, and the effects they have on people's interest in going to a game. Tasmania already has less population and difficult conditions for spectators and players alike. If they put a roof on the stadium, it will make games less affected by weather, and the conditions more pleasant for fans. More high scoring, which the AFL are obsessed with, also apparently means more fans going to games.
Just my theory anyway
@Julia Chandler
Hobart's situation (population AND climate) is not too dissimilar to Geelong's. It can work. Plus, the weather conditions could make it a uniquely Tasmanian experience for visiting teams and Tasmania (both the team and marketers) could use that to their advantage.
@@eddielong8663 i agree with you there. I'm a big footy fan and love the natural parts of the game. I think the unique matches Tasmania could provide shouldn't be hindered by closed in stadium. I'm only theorising why there's this big to-do about having a roof on the stadium.
How tf am I about to say I agree with Eddie, but I do. Sic is just being honest .
The reason is because the actually absurd individual on that panel is Damo. What a rubbish point of view. Every time sookin on about Hawthorn.
Worst thing about this is Sis apologised. Cant even speak your mind nowadays what a joke
100%
Gold Coast is a great place to visit but a terrible place to live that’s why no one wants to stay up there!
Are you serious!?
Dafuq u on about? Don’t you know how many Mexicans have moved up there since the 80s, and more recently since Covid? Used to live there and being a Qlder playing cricket there in 90s with Ex Victorians couldn’t stand their VFL/ afl talk in a R League state, rather live there than cold 🥶 overrated Bleak city Melbin...🤦♂️😂👎🙄
The AFL will just give them 100 first round draft picks and they will get beaten by 20 goals for the first 60 games.
But what they should be doing is having an expansion draft. It's the fairest way to build a competitive team quickly, without ruining the draft for years.
you cant force players who are contracted to move there family to a new state
Essentially you do it over four years, allow Tassie to play VFL, they pick 6-7 players from each draft as normal, and in the 4th year they get to have 1-2 players from each existing club (who are in the 22 - 27 year old bracket) and don't participate in the draft for that year.
Ultimately that will be a very competitive team.
@@maxwatkins7032 Where did I say anything about forcing players to go?
@@tb7667 thats what an expansion draft is, u force players to leave there current club
@@chasindigo So what do those kids do, they want to AFL, you cant trap them in the VFL
Why do they need a brand new stadium? The crowd will look shocking with a big stadium and empty seats. The crowd numbers will slowly build over the years so take a leaf out of Geelong's books and how they built their stadium up over the years.
@Donkey Kong helped by Geelong being one of the most marginal seats at both state and federal level. Politicians falling over themselves to help build it. If you want something from the government, organise to make yourself a marginal seat.
The Victorian taxpayer rebuilt Handbag Park. $120m and counting. And no one but Geelong fans, or the opposing teams cheersquad, can watch a game there. I'm sure the capacity is less now too. And I bet the food costs 10x more.
Just going by the online petition numbers, 2/3 is understating it. 31,100 NO votes versus 8682 YES votes. The other issue for lack of support is the fact that all AFL fans in Tas already have a team that they support. They won't let go of them and will only be half interested at best in a Tas team, particularly when they languish at the bottom of the ladder for years. I believe that the AFL have a clause in the contract that states that if the team isn't performing to their desired standards at the end of 8 years, it can be removed from the comp.
build it and they will come, this investment will have a huge ROI as footy and cricket isnt a doormat sport in Tassie, unlike GC and West Sydney
Oh Eddie what a trustful opinion 😂😂😂😂 state police
Two many teams in Melbourne wake up folks
Why not ship boof head McGuire down there. He would be a genius in Tassie.
This is gonna be a disaster, 750 mil for a stadium like that there dreaming
What did Optus stadium cost? 1.8 billion? But that is to home 2 (future 3) clubs
take optus stadium as a base line for tassie, "it was first hoped to cost A$ 700 million, the project was contracted for over 900 million and eventually ended with a price tag over A$ 1.6 billion"
It's also 3 times bigger than the propsed stadium. Need to look at Duneeden. It can easily be done under budget.
Optus blew out because they essentially built on landfill so had to drill pylons almost 20-30m deep into the bottom of the Swan River to keep it all from collapsing
Sicily can say whatever he wants
Nothing wrong with Tassie, plenty to do. I think James Sicily is tad immature...A roof is a must for Hobart.
As a young person living down in tas (ex mainlander), I love it. But I don’t think footy player demographic will love it. You have to be a certain type of person to enjoy living down here, and you have to be ok without living with the glitz and glam and the flashy lights and nightclubs.
I think most young people (footy players especially) want to enjoy the high life with all the action etc. and tassie won’t provide that.
Personally I love footy, but I don’t think a tas team will work. All footy fans down here already have an allegiance, and I’m not sure these people will be won over and additionally, I don’t think there is a large enough pool of potential footy fans who the tas team will tap into. You’ll most likely end up with a bunch of people attending games who support tas as their 2nd team and they won’t be anywhere near as loyal to the tas team. Jack jumpers worked because no one down here really had a team they already followed in Aus. AFL would be stupid if they think the fan reception is going to be the same
yep spot on
Had Suns been up on Sunshine coast! Be working much better!
Southport Sharks should've gotten that licence deal. Already a great club. But, the AFL wanted to 'OWN THE NEW FRANCHISE'...ala NFL. They're idiots who want nothing more than control. Damn the fanbase of already powerful clubs.
I wish Eddie McGuire would let other people speak
Oh Eddie. AFL has changed significantly in the last 5 years. Also Eddie, uses a 2100 year phrase from Julius Caesar
Instead of a roofed stadium, why don't they build a big igloo down there? Get Penguin to feed them. Why do they even need a roof? Because they're afraid of copping a bad draught then getting blown off the park. Does this mean Hurricanes are blocked from taking the field?
Why does nobody mention the fact that if it has a roof they won’t play cricket there.. So it will have to be a retractable roof which is more $$$!!
I don’t understand this stance given that there have been international cricket matches played at Marvel with the roof closed.
@@shmick6079 when?
@@marklayton9805 The World XI vs Australia series in 2005 was given international status by the ICC.
"But they all live in Melbourne"... exactly! None of the guys from Tasmania are even based there anymore. There is emotional dreams - and then there's logic. And logic always shows that you should never follow something unless it is sustainable, and this just isn't. And that's not the fault of the rest of us, that's the fault of Tasmania and the fact that they've slacked in building up a population, slacked in the projected population due to not having bigger families or making the state lucrative enough to attract new people, and have slacked in infrastructure. The league doesn't exist to just give hand outs! You have to support your own boots, especially since other states are projected to boom in population, we need that money to support what we already have. There's too many struggling clubs as is.
Tasmania prides itself on remaining small and more chilled out, not everything is about growth growth growth all the time. The fact is most Tasmanians don't want a stadium and don't want an AFL team if its not going to benefit the state (which the current proposal wont) Tasmanians haven't had any say in the stadium, no chance to vote on it or anything, we didn't even elect the current premier
@@rag4877 💯 This bozo blaming tasmania for what? Majority of tasmanians either dont want or are indifferent to a crappy afl team.
Yeah, you act like a population boom is a good thing. I doubt you'll be thinking that when your waiting 48 hours for an ambulance 😂😂 or spending the best part of a day in traffic. Not to mention massive spikes in poverty and homelessness, but hey at least we have more people.🤤🤤
@@giggermont5413 You don't even have a 7 Eleven, sit down.
Does anyone get to speak proportionately on the panel apart from Eddie? If others have a different view to Eddie, are they allowed to express it? It appears other panelists refrain from expressing, for risk of losing their job? Maybe the program should be re-named EDDIE'S FOOTY CLASSIFIED!
Yep.. He's ruined the show.. Even though I stopped watching a long time ago.
If there is not enough seats some clubs will not go down to Tassie, thus is true because some Vic teams will not even go to Geelong, and one of these teams are Collingwood , and that stops the money coming in to the home ground. How much will it cost the Tassie team every time the play an away game it's not like jumping on a bus which is cheaper.
Then need to fastrack Western Springs Stadium in Auckland and get New Zealand the 20th licence they’re also crying out for a team population suits the next expansion 🇳🇿👍
since when? i dont know a single kiwi that doesnt openly deride afl
Eddie is visionary. You can love him or hate him, but he's important to football.
He’s irrelevant in the footy world nowadays. Just a flog with an opinion.
@@timhunter7441 sounds like you are talking about yourself.
He is a cancer to football
@@clarkclements7204 Unlike you champ. A flog with no opinion.
t. Pies fan
we should cut giving money to hawthorn and north melb and see how that hurts those team not having the money coming out of tassie it would hurt the budget for the season My question is iwhy would you have two teams in wa and qld and nsw sa when one out of the two team in each state fine it hard why not just have one team in those states
What did Damo mean by "Buddy's 13 for the wrong reasons" ?
I think because hawthorn won 22 odd goals.
Barrett absolutely hates the Hawks. Doesn't matter the story he will pile on Hawthorn at every chance. Hawthorn have won some amazing victories in Tassie and built a profile for Aussie Rules at the highest level down there. Barrett would argue against this at every chance because he sees nothing but a headline and the dollars of his employers and making their websites tick over with the clickbait stories he produces. He's not a journalist. He's a mistake which should've been aborted. Yeah, I don't regard him highly. Nor should anyone with any brain cells.
The Greens will do a study on a rare species of worm that lives under the grass. Cant have footy players stomping on those ! hahahaha
Love that comment
The Gold Coast Sun's franchise hasn't worked. Do they really want to risk throwing $1B at a Tasmanian " project" ?
I'd live in Hobart and look at the growth in pop percentage and forecasts. I used to live in Geelong and it's 100 times better. The weather is a few degrees cooler than melbourne, so what? The Duneeden NZ model is best, it can be achieved at that cost there are sponsers to be found there are local companies willing to back the team with a proper presinct. Playing bottom table teams hasnt done anything to help thegames growth there, the AFL should have been developing the u16 & TAC cup teams more.
Damo trying his best to dish it out to Hawthorn once again. Good on Eddie for speaking out and not letting that sook moan on. Sicily shouldn't have apologised really, he's entitled to his opinion. And he's 100% right. This is going to be Gold Coast all over again. It's not the right time to look for a 19th team. Maybe once they fix Gold Coast then they can start these discussions.
Tasmanians dont even want it... yes there is a strong footy culture but everyone supports a team already, and the stadium is going to be a huge waste of money for the state and an eyesore on hobart
Gill is not rated in the corporate world and there are no jobs for him..that is why he is backtracking on leaving
Agree
That how it comes across as well too me
I never hear about
The grassroots which is the future of Australian football
Regional clubs & local metro clubs are folding all over the nation
Its disturbing & a canary in the coal mine
Officals at grass roots football is a massive issue Nobody wants to be an umpire anymore
Volunteers ,no umpires are dying off
What happens now results appear 20 years later
Grass roots football kids mums & dads drive football
They are the life blood
They matter
The wealthy AFL today is the end result of what happens at grassroots
Grass roots
Its dying
What are they AFL doing about it ?
@@cweatherfella547 bang on the money champion
So smooth and sensible without Caros BS
Fremantle 30 years 1 Grand Final 1 loss
Port Adelaide 26 Years 2 Grand Finals 1 win 1 loss
GWS 11 Years. 1 Grand Final 1 loss.
Dozens of top 20 drafted players traded away for more draft picks for more top 20 drafted players
Gold Coast Suns 12 years. Zero finals.
Dozens of top 20 drafted players traded away for more top 20 draft picks.
Millions Of $$$ squandered by the AFL.
So the question is will the people of Tasmania support a team that after 10 years and Dozens of high end draft picks where 50% will leave because their home sick, who get belted for the first few years and after 10 years can't make a final??
Is this for real? The AFL is going to put $millions in annually for development. What are these clowns on about?
Eddie for CEO..lordy for the commision.... I'd take the job if money is right😊
Not a fan of 19 teams in the comp, wherever they are based. Byes take some of the wind out of the drive to the end flag in my opinion.
the 91,92,93 and 94 seasons where some of the best I've seen, and the league had an odd number of teams
How much does Damo hate Hawthorn! Every chance he gets he throws out his elbow.
I'm SO GLAD I'm not the only person that realises this. He's trying his hardest to pull the club down. I'm also glad Eddie kept interrupting him and actually agreed with Sicily.
should have another team in geelong
Population isn’t big enough and no one would support it over the cats. Maybe Ballarat or Bendigo or a combination of the two like how the bulldogs cover multiple suburbs, but there’s already too many teams in victoria.
When Freo rocked up the players had to go find lockers themselves, ended up with free ones from the local high school about to be thrown out. Must be nice for new clubs these days to get everything handed to them. We literally grew a club from grass seeds.
LITERALLY
Grew?
@@BigRigWA google it or something I couldn't care mate
@h.r.hufnstuf4171 😂😂😂😂 'Google it or something mate, I don't care'
Great call mate
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Too many teams. Talent is already diluted so many dead ass games
Let's be honest, we don't even have enough talent pool to facilitate another club into the AFL. Talent is already stretched as it is, look at the Gold Coast.
How long have they been playing footy, but you have to have a roof. Have they put Air Con in Qld Jeeezzzz better put one on the G.
A Tasmanian team will be full of Victorians not Tasmanians. It is not how the AFL draft works. Be another GWS in different location.
The AFL could've afforded to do this if they hadn't flushed all the money down the toilet on wastes of time like Greater Western Sydney and the Gold Coast. Make those two clubs merge and then the AFL might have enough money to close the gap for a Tasmanian team and do it right.
Just make sure there is a roof on the place and they will come
The game has gotten worse since Gill has been CEO, the money may have imporved but the game has suffered. Give us someone wil some balls not a masonic shill for the corporates.
Bingo, the Masons run everything.
The money is a mirage
It wont last nor will GWS or the Suns or a Tassie
Long term the AFL has problems
Grass roots the life blood of AFL is dying all over the country
Regional & local metro clubs are folding everywhere
Struggling for players ,volunteers ,umpires etc
Nobody wants to umpire or be a match official at a local club any more
This is the long term problem
The AFL long term is nothing without grass roots & massive participation
The other issue is "Who wants a permanent bye in the comp?"
Canberra team.
Ahhh...give me a Boags will ya!
Tassie population is 500k, Perth is 2m. To get 20k to a games will be an accomplishment. God I hope the government and the afl aren't thinking that Perth and tassie are the same markets. A new stadium would be an equalling the financial mistakes of Athens, south Africa world cup stadium and china's birds nest. I agree on the tassieteam but make it financially positive. Not a money pit
To prevent the disasters of GC17 and GWS, they need to get the initial list building rules that allow the team to be capable of winning7-12 games in their first season as occurred with Adelaide and Port Adelaide. The new team needs to be able to target and recruit about 8-10 , 23-28 year old premiership players willing to chase coin and set up thier retirement, and for the first 5 years 50% of thier salaries need to be excluded from the TPP. This will allow new draftees to blend in with seasoned players and not get smashed by 20 goals every week compromising the integrity of the comepetition.
Don't know why James Siciliy needs to apologize the fact very few mainland draftees would want to commit 10-15 years in Tasmania. There will be very few Players like Matthew pavlich and Travis Boak drafted out of their state who will stay the course.
That is by far the worst idea I have seen proposed around this whole Tassie debacle.
Care to elaborate why this is the worst idea ever for an initial seeding of a franchise, rather than just saying its "Sheeeite" . what you rather see the new franchise be belted by 20 goals every week for the first 2 years and give a leg up to anyone who plays them twice. ok sure...
@BGwControlStop They need to be competitive, but you can't expect the 18 other teams to let the newbie drain prime players out of the comp like that. Imagine if they won a flag with a team set up like that!? It would mean nothing and completely collapse the competition.
@@mytwosense9135 History shows the number of wins each expansion team had in its first Season in the AFL/VFL
Sydney* (relocation) (1983) - 7
West Coast - 11
Brisbane Bears - 6
Adelaide - 10
Fremantle - 8
Port Adelaide - 10.5
Gold Coast - 3
GWS - 2.
and GCS and GWS had the most generous of list build concessions of all the expansion teams and still havent delivered a flag in nearly 15 years, they also entered when the league was fully professional. See a trend here wth GCS and GWS. Expansion has the unfortunate collateral damage of diluting the talent pool and compromising many drafts. A graders are unlikely to move down to tassie (the don't need the money)but if you can convince about 8-10 B to B+ graders who have achieved thier flag may be willing to chase coin and tenure that would make them competitive from the get go. GAblett Jnr , who was a legitimate A grader, was happy to sacrifice the prime of his career for coin up at GCS but that was the exception (and he'd also had 2 flags by then) . The B and above graders that GWS "Poached" were Tom Scully , Callan Ward and Phil Davis none of them were top 50 players in the comp at the time, although Callan Ward and Phil Davis have been more than Serviceable and got them to a GF., Tom Scully was a Bust for all 3 clubs he played for. The point here is "the newbie" is unlikely is unlikely to be world beaters and "Collapse the competition". Seeding a team that can have a 40% chance of winning on any given weekend, is the best thing for all other 18 teams in the league.
Yeah great idea mate. Take 10 premiership players either hitting their prime or are in it and send em south. WTF are you smoking son? And there are only probs 3 teams that would fall into your category anyways Melbourne, Richmond and Geelong. Coz I know you won't consider West coast in your pool of "premiership" players. So in short you want 3 players from each of those teams to head to Tassie? Get farked
35c for a Golden Gaytime??? When do you reckon the last time Eddie rolled into the milk bar haha. Fraction out of touch Edward
Who wants to go watch the footy on an Island thats near Antarctica ????
I don’t wanna come to an island that only produces Apples , apple juice and frozen apple popsicles! Haha
I'm an American who would definitely come to Tassie in winter to watch footy. Winter in Tassie is a lot like our summer lol
@@milkwalkerjones633 whats that ? minus 20
@@thetwogardens6048 tassie is warmer in winter than places like rome, athens, paris, new york etc aussies are just ignorant
@@thetwogardens6048 -20 is a pretty normal temperature here. Summer we're usually around 30 during the day but it can go to 0 at night.
loving the comments on here ..
so many “GWS is a failure” - theyve already played in a GF .. it took ‘footy mad’ Freo 20yrs to do that.
the Suns dont win so kick them out .. the Hawks needed nearly 5 decades just to make finals when they started.
so lets add more rubbish teams -
Saints 1 comp in 125yrs = out.
Pies - 2 flags in last 65yrs = they can go.
Crows and Port - just 3 AFL cups between them is pathetic = start again.
Dogs - only 2 premierships in their history = finished.
Bombers - havent even won a final in 20yrs = done.
Blues - been almost 3 decades since that salary cap cheating victory = off with their heads.
North - making up the numbers for most of their tenure = merge with the Storm.
that leaves Cats, Tigers, Eagles, Swans, Lions, Dees.
suddenly there seems to be alot more quality players for Tassie to pick from .. and the remaining teams could play each other twice to make it a fair comp. 🎣
I hear ya
Viability is a huge factor
We also had a teams called fitzroy & south melbourne in Victoria
Fitzroy only needed a few hundred thousand $ to survive at the time & they folded
They had a great side, good players & made finals
I use to go to watch them play at their home ground
They don't exist in Victoria anymore
Richmond ,Hawthorn ,
Footscray also almost folded $
Dont be fooled by the big money now floating around
Grass roots football the life blood of the AFL it is dying nationwide
Small regional & metro clubs are dying everywhere
No money no players no volunteers no umpires
No fans
This will affect the AFL in the future in a major way
Nsw & Qld really dont need a 2nd club
Player retention is a huge issue & should be a major factor in wether or not they keep them in the league
I think TV rights fees may have had ainfluence on the GWS & gold coast teams introduction
Time will reveal all
I bet you in 10 /20 yrs time the AFL will be a 12 team comp
It won’t work….
AFL is barely watchable as it is, theres not enough talented players in the country. Another team in the comp is going to dilute the league even more. this is going to turn a-lot of people off from the game
Only Damo can segway from anew Tassie team to a PR disaster for Hawthorn…. what a peanut
It was a fairebough point to bring up, the captain of the team who is sponserd there is saying most young blokes wont want to play there. Sicilly is correct too.
@@raphaelkoch1573So people shouldn't speak truth now?
@@mytwosense9135 they should, re read what I wrote, I was agreeing with Sicilly.
100% right. He clearly has something against the club.
@@raphaelkoch1573 It wasn't fair, it was unnecessary.
Eddie just talks and talks and talks no on else can speak except a few words from Barrett
I can’t wait until Hawthorn can ditch the empty stadium in Tassie and come back to playing in front of crowds in Melbourne where they belong
They make more money per game in Tassie than they do in Melbourne.
You pelican haha. Tassie saved hawthorn lol
@@binks7988 Tassie didn't save anyone. They hardly have money for their own state.
@@absxx618 heaps of money they selling all the power to vic lol hahaha
LOL. This clip teminds me of why I lost interest watching footy classified. What a lot of waffle……you are supposed to be talkking about FOOTY, not playground politics of the top 1%. I’ll check back in a few years and see if the show gets back to talking about actual footy….
Anti Tasmanian team 100%
The show would be a lot better without this fool Eddie. Give me 100 Caroline Wilsons instead, I don't understand why people can handle Eddie shouting nonsense every week but can't handle Caro.
My gut reaction is it's sexism but I'm sure part of it is Eddie was kind of a big deal within footy for a long time. I mean he was really in it, not just a journo.
🤡
Eddie has been trying to kill this new team for three years. He’s about to lose and he’s getting angrier and angrier, resorting to one outlandish argument after the other.
You lost eddie, live with it,
So they have all worked out there's not enough money to start a tassie team there about 1 billion short.
Why is about the stadium?/ Who cares? This is the clubs forcing the AFL to justify a brand new stadium as a way to block it. Llyod's comment is terrible!!! How do we keep justifying Gold Coast? How many players come from Gold Coast?? wyf??
tassie hawks thats the jist
Nope. Especially after Sicily's comments. F#$k the Hawks. I've never identified them as part of the state I grew up in anyway. With that said, I appreciate the man's honesty and welcome his comments. It just gives Tasmanians even more reason to want their own club and give Hawthorn the big 🖕.
I would not travel to Tazmania to watch a game of football even if in Melbourne. It is a disaster in the making.
Tasmania*