i remember being scared shitless going through this dlc so i mean i love ya, you crazy old coot but you’re stuck and i stole a bar or two on my way out 😂
For a base (no modded FNV), placing him in the vault. He gets his Eternal Reward. I would say I like Fallout Dust’s ending for him as well. He in the end, even after being trapped in the vault, gets the last laugh over the NCR.
@@NickyTheCat the trash cans at the El Dorado Gas station are considered safe storage. That means you can transport gold bars 3-5 at a time depending on your strength to your player home.
Imagine treking hundreds of miles across the wasteland, being stalked by a bounty hunter, surviving big MT and spending years enslaving a crew to break into a casino to get revenge on a faction that mimics the old world. Only to get locked in a deep dark vault by a mailman.
Christine Royce wasn't a bounty hunter, rather, she was an elite assassin sent by the Circle of Steel to assassinate Father Elijah. (The CoS an elite inner sect within the Brotherhood of Steel that essentially acts as internal affairs.) Guess it makes it all the more humiliating that a brain-damaged mailman is the one that does you in and not some elite assassin that's tracked your for hundreds of miles.
You know, this actually got me thinking how close Elijah was to activating ARCHIMEDES. It only took repairing a broken cable to start it up by the time the courier gets there.
It's interesting to think about how much he must've done. It's only thanks to him that we can repair Helios so easily, hell he probably made that Mr Handy named PYTHON. Imagine what you'd have to do to repair the place if Elijah hadn't been working on it.
@@XArctracerXactually that's nesary canon. The NCR troops occupying HELIOS tell you that the Brotherhood destroyed as much as possible on their way out
I think Elijah tells you he put the collars to ensure obedience and survival. He said the previous teams got greedy and were willing to kill each other once they thought they could get the riches and get away. Of course, this is coming from a man filled with greedy and the inability to let go, so its up to interpretation
yup, that he could've, but in the end all people were to him, were tools to use to his end. which is why i sneak away and leave him to rot in that empty vault, left with nothing, because that is all he deserved, especiallly for separating Veronica from her love.
@@UltimateGamerCC Absolutely. Him taking a bullet during his ultimate encounter with the Courier, allowing Elijah an instant death without a moment ever spent self-reflecting, *is not justice,* and is the worst outcome short of achieving the ending where the Courier teams up with Father Elijah, the player's game ends, and the two use the Madre's toxic cloud to eventually "wipe the slate clean". Nobody deserves to get to live a life of seeing and using people exclusively as simple tools, resulting in the deaths of countless people, many for no good reason like the Brotherhood members at Helios One, many more cruelly and violently at Elijah's own hands, and then to just die on the spot while still manipulating people in pursuit of their greedy, and psychopathic ends. No, he needs to die in exactly the way you described. Total failure, with absolutely no chance of escaping, or interacting with any living creature ever again. Whether he would ever come to any actual sense of remorse would be his decision to use his time to arrive to, and more likely a person like that would only ever regret not manipulating people even better to achieve his desired ends, but that scenario is what justice would look like.
People lock Elijah in the vault and really expect him not to escape. give him 4 minutes and a fission battery and he'll bust out of there in liberty prime II
He might be able to escape from the vault but the trap that he sets off within it also disables the elevator to get out, top it off with how the place starts to explode and likely left the entire area buried in a ton of rubble and his odds of escaping death are basically close to, if not, 0%. Working through technology he can do but working through all that rubble with what little he has to work with, nuh uh that vault is his tomb, pretty ironic considering every horrible thing he has done to get to that point only for him to meet his end.
umm... that vault got collapsed during the explosion right? if he somehow survive that he would have to dig his way out, and we don't know how deep this vault is? and if liberty prime can be controlled from underground why would he want sierra madre's tech, i mean just let liberty prime conquer all while the brotherhood is sipping tea in the bunker and IF elijah still had a liberty prime why the brotherhood lost the helios one?
@@fietehermans9903 if you really think about we go all through life and wonder why some random bad stuff happens, sometimes it's nature, sometimes random luck, sometimes it's just other people's problems and intersecting or combining results from people's actions and influences.
On the surface, Elijah is a tragedy, a man who got so tied into the idea of the Brotherhood's lost glory, and eventually, his inability to lose sight of that led to madness, destruction of his Chapter, and eventually, his inability to Let Go leads him to his death, directly at our hands or with the karmic justice of the events of Dead Money. In the flesh however, with the context that Veronica tends to be my main follower, Elijah is a monster. It is *very* hard to not finish the job personally for me when it comes time to set up the vault trap.
Yep Elijah is one with the only antagonists in fallout series who is truly pure evil, with the others being Frank Horrigan and Stanislaus Brown. And in my opinion it is better option to trap him inside valut and then be able to hear him going through 5 stages of grief(what is ridiculous).
Elijah parallels many of the followers in Dead Money, like God, his desire for control leads to him developing and using the bomb collars, for Dean Domino, he desires the Seierra Madre for the technological riches inside and will kill and betray to get it, for Christine, it’s revenge, revenge against those who “wronged him” and finally Dog, not letting go of his hunger for power and knowledge. Elijah truly could’ve been a good thing for the Brotherhood had he not become a hate filled person, he knew the problems that the Brotherhood would eventually have but he just couldn’t, as the game says, let go.
What context? Veronica loved the guy, he was a genuinely good father figure to her, and she’s sad when she hears about his fate. The dude was a visionary and a genius, i sincerely doubt that he couldn’t convince anyone from the brotherhood to go with him and start a new rogue chapter or whatever. He’s just jaded as fuck from the treatment he got from both the brotherhood and ncr, who put a fucking fantastic to operate the most advanced weapon in a Mojave.
Elijah is how Obsidian wanted to portray the player who couldn't let go of all the gold bars found in the vault. Well of course who wouldn't. After suffering through that hellhole that was Dead Money I deserve EVERY GOLD BAR in the vault.
I tried playing Dead Money one time when I was super stoned at night in the dark, I got turned around like so many times in the three or so hours I was playing that I only got maybe like 20% of it completed when I should've been at least halfway through it. Talk about a hellhole 🤣
I think in that situation i would just take enough to be it a reward for my trouble but not enough to risk me being trapped there - There is no point in getting stuck there especially once you know that trap was set so long ago anyway. So probably it would mean grabbing a bar or two and then high tailing it out of there.
Personally those codes were the best, Stimpacks, Ammo, Repair kits and Drugs all for "free" but Obsidian really should of thought harder cuz... we are gamers, we see caeser and somehow bare knuckle box his head off
@@Garry503 all you need is 100 sneak and you walk into the force field as he walks in. You fall through. And the elevator is 15 feet away. All the gold bars are mine. This is why I do Old World Blues first. Transportalponder. As soon as you're back. Teleport to the SINK.
Elijah is my favourite character of the Brotherhood. He's so unique and well written...I always trap him inside the bunker and deliver his final message to Veronica. It's pretty sad that i hadn't the option to reunite her with Christine.
I use a mod that alows me to have more than 2 companions. My third is Veronica. Since the game doesn't recognize the third companion, she ended up in the Sierra with me. If I knew about their story beforehand, I would've lefted her in the Mojave. It was weird seeing her in front of Elijah and Christine and just no reaction between them.
If you trap Elijah in the vault his final message on the radio after you escape is eerie and sad Honestly gave me anxiety Couldn’t imagine being stuck deep underground the sierra madre casino inside a solid metal locked vault in the pitch black darkness Left to starve and go insane He lowkey deserved it for all the suffering he caused, but I still can’t help but feel empathy
He didn't last trapped in the vault. I think it is an ending that is haunting and amazing. This is some of the dialog he delivers after you get back to the base game with his final message out. Elijah: Eh? Getting dark in here. Machine... machine's losing power, no. I still have Pip-Boy light... maybe... maybe... no, no, that doesn't work. Elijah: No way out. {Beat, frustration}Can't... can't end like this. Elijah: {Rasping breath, to himself}Calm, been in worse situations... find a way out... {vicious, last part is threat}somehow, then find that Courier... Elijah: {Cold, firm, addressed to the player as his final words}You. I know you can hear me. When you die, Courier... I'll be waiting. Your grave's going look just like this vault. Elijah: {Cold, quiet, hissing whisper}When you die... I'll be waiting here... at the Sierra Madre. {Faint, quiet, as if dying}Waiting.
Elijah is one of Fallout's greatest and most dangerous villains. His intellect rivals that of the Master's, but personally, I believe Elijah's unyielding greed and obsession is what makes him even more dangerous than the Master, Ulysses, the Mad Scientist from the Big MT, or any of the factions in the Fallout universe ever were. But every villain has a weakness, and Elijah's greatest power was ultimately his down fall. I mean, homie literally lost to a cybernetic mailman.
One thing I like about Elijah is the fact that he absolutely embarrassed the Think Tank. Some of the greatest minds on the planet and he was like a slasher villain to them. Easily breaks free, plays with their toys, then when he wants to escape he does, damages one of them and uses another to get free. I can just imagine the sheer shock they had when a 'lobotomite' out smarted them at every turn.
@@WaldpfanneDoubt it, MS may have bought Bethesda, but they've given them carte blanche with their projects. Can't seem them remastering a game where another team showed them up with 18 months of work.
Ah yes, I remember robbing the treasure vault... glorious... emptying my inventory and equipment prior, looting the place of all non-gold bars, coralling all the gold bars into a single item... The standing in front of the now singular gold bar, lifting it up, turning around, placing it down, running ahead of it, repeating until I reached the door before shoving it all of it into my inventory and becoming incredibly burdened but still able to go through the door to safety... good times.
Great video! Love that Elijah's story is tied into the other DLCs. It was a great decision by the writing team to make everything in the Mojave feel intertwined.
Didn't know you could either, but yea in the short term it would be a very bad ending, but in the long term it could be a path to Humanity finally thriving again once all the squabbling factions have been subdued. Once Elijah kicks the bucket of age, what's to stop the Courier from taking what he started and building a new world that is better than the old? Sorta like how siding with Mr. House is also one of the best long term endings cause it was calculated that as long as humans kept squabbling for every remaining piece of the pie, they were doomed to extinction within a few generations. Game really tests your morality and ability to think long term, cause a lot of the 'good endings' are really only a short term gain, long term loss, and some of the bad endings mean you have to become a monster, but save the world in the long term.
@@ThunderbolttheFox Not really. House doesn't care about the mojave, he only cares about his own ego. He is too blissful and doesn't understand how to run new Vegas nevertheless the entire desert
@@ThunderbolttheFoxbecause everyone's dead. He genocides the Mojave. Unless he starts kidnapping NCR and Legion kids then he's just alone in a desert covered with corpses, cloud and holograms
I have been curious about the Followers of the Apocalypse background and also how the children of Atom spread throughout the world. Perhaps a topic for a new video?
Elijah's Character Arc: _The hubris of man can be their own downfall if left unchecked_ Edgelords on the internet interpreting it: *Haha, funny robo lover wants to gas the wasteland, what a legend*
Do people actually unironically defend Elijah? He’s one of my favourite characters in the series but it pretty obvious that his ‘solution’ to fighting the NCR is evil.
@@KD--sj8eo Let's just say there's some people praising Elijah's character out there who conflate Real World politics and Mojave Fallout politics _waaaay_ too much
@@DoctorProph3t "There is no your half of the Mojave. There is only my all of it!" "I watched Christine be lobotomized. I was there. I watched her be captured by the medical robots and Dean Domino. I could have saved her. But I didn't."
I remember the first time my friend told me about Fallout New Vegas. He said: Play it. But, before you finish it, play all the DLC's in this precise order. Once I did, I never expect that the whole story, was connected for a single man: Elijah. This three dlc's was for me, the best DLC's in fallout franchise.
I love the video. It makes so much stuff I've seen around the game etc make sense and link up, and it just makes me appreciate this game even more. Great stuff
Kinda random but I can't wait for your video on Mr. House, he's my default for who I side with in New Vegas and he's who I hope is the canon ending (probably not, probably the NCR but a man can dream)
I don't think they will make canon ending, but if they did it wouldn't be the NCR. That is part of the reason they let you nuke them in Lonesome Road, they thought the NCR was getting too big and civilized.
I'm almost sure canon is House or independent. The whole game starts with the platinum chip so it would make sense that the upgraded securitrons decide the battle of hoover dam. The game is also literally called new Vegas
@@harrisonhurst6480 potential New Vegas 2 would be a full Bethesda title (or obsidian but the modern obsidian has like 1 developer left that worked on NV). The NCR is by far the most popular faction only second to the Brotherhood in the minds of fallout fans and alot of those fans just worship the faction without criticism. I think house is the logical choice but If they ever touch the west coast again I don't think they'll go for it since besides Caesar (which would be a dope ending) it's the second most morally questionable and 'unpopular' (as is in less played) ending.
I brought Veronica with me to the Sierra and didn't even know about their past. It kinda spoiled the experience for me since, of course, she didn't react to Christine and vice versa.
Can you do a story about the Sierra Madre, Dean domino, Frederick Sinclair, and Vera Keyes?? I love the story of it and I would love to hear it through you
Thank you for this great lore ride. I just started another playthrough of FNV last night. It's like 'coming home', and I live in Wisconsin where it's like a nuclear winter right now LoL! I can't wait to get to the Sierra Madre :D
I feel like your voice could make anything interesting it’s very soothing, also Elijah is probably the most interesting character from new vegas, good to have a Full story so to speak
I love these lore videos. I love video games with overarching lore so you can smile when you know you figured it out while playing or learn about the little details you missed the first time
Elijah is one of my favorite fallout villan in the series how he kidnapped so many people and used them. I would choose to trap him in the vault and leave him behind and once all the gold has been looted it won't attract treasure hunters so that Elijah wouldn't use it as an opportunity to enslave more people.
Man if I had my own way I'd turn the sierra madre or dead money into a movie it's such a great story line I'm close to remembering every word that's said in the store ah man if I could just turn it into a movie
I locked him in the vault with all the gold, minus 4 bars. I took some, didn't feel right leaving empty handed. Elijah wanted the vault, now he's got it and he can never escape. what greed dose to people huh.
Ive always been fascinated with the various tribes of the series and the cyphers remind me of another tribe called the Luddites. Idk perhaps you could do an in depth video on the various tribes throughout the wasteland. Of course some are less talked about than some of the ones you interact with but theres still plenty more that are described more in depth. Not to mention you have the more primitive variants that youd expect like the white legs but then you have your more raider oriented tribes like the great khans and even the legion.
Dead Money is elite. In a very free-roam, play-as-you-choose game, they decided to make a linear gauntlet while also staying true to roleplaying by making you reliant on the character you've made instead of the Stuff you've found.
I like to think Elijah got trapped in the vault by the courier. But, by the time the courier is out of the sierra madre Elijah would be out of the vault and have open access to the main databanks down in the basement. There Elijah would spend the rest of his days doing what he loved, playing with all the tech in the sierra madre.
The game says he dies by the end if he gets locked in the vault so no chance of that happening. Besides Elijah wouldn't stay in the Sierra madre forever, he'd wage war on the mojave which was his goal to begin with
Yea, if you lock him in the vault, there is no ought besides his pipboy, and he even says as he is down there that there isn't much air, and he is struggling to breathe. The vault is Air tight so there is a very limited supply.
Been a fan of fallout since 3 when it came to Xbox. Super enjoying this channel. Binging everything here now. I know the older fans dislike what Bethesda did to the game from 3 onwards but I’m happy it happened, otherwise I may never have found the franchise. Even so, we don’t have to talk about the newer games lol
I took all the gold and left tons of food and supplies, not even intentionally I was dumping for space and only realized after and now I do it every playthrough
You should do a video going into the Fallout 4 concept art book where the start of the game would have been much more depth. You would have stayed longer in the pre-war timeline and see the US militia arrive and witness some residents protesting where water guns and tear gas is used. The elevator entrance was suppose to be a giant square door looking over the city of Boston and watch the bomb blow the buildings up as you and everyone else was lowered into Vault 111. During Shaun's kidnapping there would have been 3 Institute scientists involved 1 of which would have threaten your spouse to let go of Shaun and likely injured instead of being killed. This would allow both survivors to fight and find Shaun together as there is also cut dialogue in which Nora mentions that she took some stimpaks to recover her injury. This start of the game would have more sense instead of the final version, where it feels rather rushed and you never get to really know your spouse, build a connection or even bury them when they are in the cryopod. Also mostly coming from a lore perspective, it would have more sense if the institute kept both parents alive as their DNA are both untouched by radiation so that if the Institute need more untouched DNA they can get a sample from both parents to better help the gen 3 synth study and production and give Shaun back when they no longer need him 👍 P.S - If some can made a mod to pull this off, that will be fantastic!
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If one of the endings had to be canon, which one would you choose and why?
Elijah and The courier ruling the mojave seemes like a fun ending to be cannon and it will be interesting
Elijah being trapped in the vault of the Sierra Madre. There's a fitting irony to it
i remember being scared shitless going through this dlc so i mean i love ya, you crazy old coot but you’re stuck and i stole a bar or two on my way out 😂
Deffo him getting locked in the vault.
For a base (no modded FNV), placing him in the vault. He gets his Eternal Reward. I would say I like Fallout Dust’s ending for him as well. He in the end, even after being trapped in the vault, gets the last laugh over the NCR.
It's rumoured that even to this day a courier is still lugging his gold bars thru the Mojave getting ever closer to the gun runners
It took me about 3-4 in game days to get them to Novac so I can vouch for the accuracy of this.
@@NickyTheCat the trash cans at the El Dorado Gas station are considered safe storage. That means you can transport gold bars 3-5 at a time depending on your strength to your player home.
People forgetting about sink Central intelligence
I luckily had that one perk that lets me fast travel while over encumbered so I got there straight away
Bro, you just drop all your gold bars on the floor, and then carry them outside of your inventory. That way, they are weightless.
Imagine treking hundreds of miles across the wasteland, being stalked by a bounty hunter, surviving big MT and spending years enslaving a crew to break into a casino to get revenge on a faction that mimics the old world.
Only to get locked in a deep dark vault by a mailman.
Fact's 😂
A mail man that also stole the treasure without getting caught himself.
A mailman who delivers a full course meal of just desserts.
Christine Royce wasn't a bounty hunter, rather, she was an elite assassin sent by the Circle of Steel to assassinate Father Elijah. (The CoS an elite inner sect within the Brotherhood of Steel that essentially acts as internal affairs.)
Guess it makes it all the more humiliating that a brain-damaged mailman is the one that does you in and not some elite assassin that's tracked your for hundreds of miles.
@@bee2bee880 It was a figure of speech.
You know, this actually got me thinking how close Elijah was to activating ARCHIMEDES. It only took repairing a broken cable to start it up by the time the courier gets there.
I like to imagine he got the site working but couldn’t get the finder so they broke the cable so the ncr couldn’t use Helios
It's interesting to think about how much he must've done. It's only thanks to him that we can repair Helios so easily, hell he probably made that Mr Handy named PYTHON. Imagine what you'd have to do to repair the place if Elijah hadn't been working on it.
@@XArctracerXactually that's nesary canon. The NCR troops occupying HELIOS tell you that the Brotherhood destroyed as much as possible on their way out
It was actually Fantastic
Tech wizard can't work a Poseidon energy ID card.
I think Elijah’s biggest mistake were the collars, if he had just gained allies instead of slaves he may have actually been able to achieve his goals.
That was always his problem, people as tools
I think Elijah tells you he put the collars to ensure obedience and survival.
He said the previous teams got greedy and were willing to kill each other once they thought they could get the riches and get away.
Of course, this is coming from a man filled with greedy and the inability to let go, so its up to interpretation
yup, that he could've, but in the end all people were to him, were tools to use to his end. which is why i sneak away and leave him to rot in that empty vault, left with nothing, because that is all he deserved, especiallly for separating Veronica from her love.
@@UltimateGamerCC Absolutely. Him taking a bullet during his ultimate encounter with the Courier, allowing Elijah an instant death without a moment ever spent self-reflecting, *is not justice,* and is the worst outcome short of achieving the ending where the Courier teams up with Father Elijah, the player's game ends, and the two use the Madre's toxic cloud to eventually "wipe the slate clean". Nobody deserves to get to live a life of seeing and using people exclusively as simple tools, resulting in the deaths of countless people, many for no good reason like the Brotherhood members at Helios One, many more cruelly and violently at Elijah's own hands, and then to just die on the spot while still manipulating people in pursuit of their greedy, and psychopathic ends.
No, he needs to die in exactly the way you described. Total failure, with absolutely no chance of escaping, or interacting with any living creature ever again. Whether he would ever come to any actual sense of remorse would be his decision to use his time to arrive to, and more likely a person like that would only ever regret not manipulating people even better to achieve his desired ends, but that scenario is what justice would look like.
But its so much easier to double cross your allies when they are wearing bombs
People lock Elijah in the vault and really expect him not to escape. give him 4 minutes and a fission battery and he'll bust out of there in liberty prime II
Liberty Prime II, I imagine with Helios Two sticking out his butt
He might be able to escape from the vault but the trap that he sets off within it also disables the elevator to get out, top it off with how the place starts to explode and likely left the entire area buried in a ton of rubble and his odds of escaping death are basically close to, if not, 0%. Working through technology he can do but working through all that rubble with what little he has to work with, nuh uh that vault is his tomb, pretty ironic considering every horrible thing he has done to get to that point only for him to meet his end.
“Elijah built Liberty Prime MkII in a VAULT, from a pile of SCRAPS!” - Obadiah Stane, probably
@@Tim7318-3 sure he might be able to get the door open but yeah he's gonna be digging for centuries
umm... that vault got collapsed during the explosion right? if he somehow survive that he would have to dig his way out, and we don't know how deep this vault is? and if liberty prime can be controlled from underground why would he want sierra madre's tech, i mean just let liberty prime conquer all while the brotherhood is sipping tea in the bunker and IF elijah still had a liberty prime why the brotherhood lost the helios one?
I'm actually glad for this video. I've personally always found the whole Father Elijah/Ulysses/Big Mt overarching story very confusing
In life many overreaching stories occur and confuse us all just as much as it confuses you.
@@drinnoshika4233 bro what
@@drinnoshika4233 Is that a deep existential question, or an insult to my inteligence? Not sure I can tell...
@@fietehermans9903 if you really think about we go all through life and wonder why some random bad stuff happens, sometimes it's nature, sometimes random luck, sometimes it's just other people's problems and intersecting or combining results from people's actions and influences.
@@drinnoshika4233 Obviously! I'm just wondering why you had to be so blunt and rude about it...
Only in Fallout where you can have extremely depressing, down to Earth stories and absolutely batshit over the top stories with robots and casinos.
Play more games...
@@dxcSOUL no
On the surface, Elijah is a tragedy, a man who got so tied into the idea of the Brotherhood's lost glory, and eventually, his inability to lose sight of that led to madness, destruction of his Chapter, and eventually, his inability to Let Go leads him to his death, directly at our hands or with the karmic justice of the events of Dead Money.
In the flesh however, with the context that Veronica tends to be my main follower, Elijah is a monster. It is *very* hard to not finish the job personally for me when it comes time to set up the vault trap.
Yep Elijah is one with the only antagonists in fallout series who is truly pure evil, with the others being Frank Horrigan and Stanislaus Brown.
And in my opinion it is better option to trap him inside valut and then be able to hear him going through 5 stages of grief(what is ridiculous).
I always kill him. Everytime. If there is one thing that Benny taught me, its you finish the job and make sure it's done.
Elijah parallels many of the followers in Dead Money, like God, his desire for control leads to him developing and using the bomb collars, for Dean Domino, he desires the Seierra Madre for the technological riches inside and will kill and betray to get it, for Christine, it’s revenge, revenge against those who “wronged him” and finally Dog, not letting go of his hunger for power and knowledge. Elijah truly could’ve been a good thing for the Brotherhood had he not become a hate filled person, he knew the problems that the Brotherhood would eventually have but he just couldn’t, as the game says, let go.
What context? Veronica loved the guy, he was a genuinely good father figure to her, and she’s sad when she hears about his fate. The dude was a visionary and a genius, i sincerely doubt that he couldn’t convince anyone from the brotherhood to go with him and start a new rogue chapter or whatever. He’s just jaded as fuck from the treatment he got from both the brotherhood and ncr, who put a fucking fantastic to operate the most advanced weapon in a Mojave.
@@max7971 People really hate him because he split up a veronica and her girlfriend.
Elijah is how Obsidian wanted to portray the player who couldn't let go of all the gold bars found in the vault.
Well of course who wouldn't. After suffering through that hellhole that was Dead Money I deserve EVERY GOLD BAR in the vault.
I don't need the gold. I'm already loaded.
I tried playing Dead Money one time when I was super stoned at night in the dark, I got turned around like so many times in the three or so hours I was playing that I only got maybe like 20% of it completed when I should've been at least halfway through it. Talk about a hellhole 🤣
I think in that situation i would just take enough to be it a reward for my trouble but not enough to risk me being trapped there - There is no point in getting stuck there especially once you know that trap was set so long ago anyway. So probably it would mean grabbing a bar or two and then high tailing it out of there.
Do you not understand the message of the DLC? you have to learn to let things go.
Personally those codes were the best, Stimpacks, Ammo, Repair kits and Drugs all for "free" but Obsidian really should of thought harder cuz... we are gamers, we see caeser and somehow bare knuckle box his head off
I love Elijah and Ulysses, it's like NPCs playing through 2 completely different games that your character wanders through
Congrats, you made a videogame concept. Now you can wait till some crazy dude with knowledge and determination do it
Tbf all of us are NPCs to the rest of the people, so the courier is a NPC to them as well
This is the best description I have ever received for both these characters
He's still crying locked in the Madre vault with all the gold gone
I just grab the C-4 in the Sierra Madre, leave it under the vault terminal, and use it to blow up Elijah after I get past the force field.
@@Garry503 there are one? I need to use that lmao
@@imnotaracistokay If you have 50 lockpick skill, one of the gun cabinets in the villa has 3 C-4 and a detonator.
@@Garry503 all you need is 100 sneak and you walk into the force field as he walks in. You fall through. And the elevator is 15 feet away. All the gold bars are mine. This is why I do Old World Blues first. Transportalponder. As soon as you're back. Teleport to the SINK.
@@isorokudono I see your point but it’s hard to pass up 500 more xp and the chance to troll Father Elijah one last time.
Elijah is my favourite character of the Brotherhood. He's so unique and well written...I always trap him inside the bunker and deliver his final message to Veronica. It's pretty sad that i hadn't the option to reunite her with Christine.
Never forget what Bethesda took from you.
@@josephsuarez9183 We should of been able to get the girl back together, they still loved eachother and pulled apart bc of Elijah
I use a mod that alows me to have more than 2 companions. My third is Veronica. Since the game doesn't recognize the third companion, she ended up in the Sierra with me. If I knew about their story beforehand, I would've lefted her in the Mojave. It was weird seeing her in front of Elijah and Christine and just no reaction between them.
The cut content might have something to do with it
Hmmm...
If you trap Elijah in the vault his final message on the radio after you escape is eerie and sad
Honestly gave me anxiety
Couldn’t imagine being stuck deep underground the sierra madre casino inside a solid metal locked vault in the pitch black darkness
Left to starve and go insane
He lowkey deserved it for all the suffering he caused, but I still can’t help but feel empathy
He had a Replicator in the room, his only problem would be figuring out what to do with the literal mountain of shit he’s gonna deal with.
It's not completely dark. There is a single terminal screen that would remain powered no matter what, so long as it survived.
He didn't last trapped in the vault. I think it is an ending that is haunting and amazing. This is some of the dialog he delivers after you get back to the base game with his final message out.
Elijah: Eh? Getting dark in here. Machine... machine's losing power, no. I still have Pip-Boy light... maybe... maybe... no, no, that doesn't work.
Elijah: No way out. {Beat, frustration}Can't... can't end like this.
Elijah: {Rasping breath, to himself}Calm, been in worse situations... find a way out... {vicious, last part is threat}somehow, then find that Courier...
Elijah: {Cold, firm, addressed to the player as his final words}You. I know you can hear me. When you die, Courier... I'll be waiting. Your grave's going look just like this vault.
Elijah: {Cold, quiet, hissing whisper}When you die... I'll be waiting here... at the Sierra Madre. {Faint, quiet, as if dying}Waiting.
@@DoctorProph3tyeah I'm sure he thought to bring a bajillion casino chips to make use of it...
Elijah is one of Fallout's greatest and most dangerous villains. His intellect rivals that of the Master's, but personally, I believe Elijah's unyielding greed and obsession is what makes him even more dangerous than the Master, Ulysses, the Mad Scientist from the Big MT, or any of the factions in the Fallout universe ever were. But every villain has a weakness, and Elijah's greatest power was ultimately his down fall.
I mean, homie literally lost to a cybernetic mailman.
vault tec did nothing wrong apparently
Dr. Mobius is actually the chillest dude, he just bullies his ex-coworkers with roboscorpions like any of us would like to do.
Mobius is a good man actually. Kinda
This is by far one of the highest quality Fallout lore channels I've ever come across.
You've earned another sub my dude.
@Sakata Gintoki I'm curious, what did Oxhorn do?
@Sakata Gintoki I wouldn't know lol. Do yk what he did?
@Sakata Gintoki jeez that's something else. I appreciate you telling me this. Thanks brotha
@@HearteaterFR is it _really_ something else? The way people harp on about oxhorn is as if he raped someone. The list provided is so inane
@@diogeneslantern18 frrr SAME
Dom told me "family is important", so I did the companions glitch, and gave Lily, Boone, Cassidy, Eddie, and Gannon their share of gold bars.
This comment is like "this kid was crying because he lost 500 dollars so I gave him 100 of the 500 dollars I found"
Raul didn't get anything
@@jacket5191 well let's be fair, gold is heavy and Raul has bad knees already. It's for his own good.
@@MediumRareOpinions *grabs fat man and mini nuke*
@@MediumRareOpinions THAT’S…. a really good point actually
One thing I like about Elijah is the fact that he absolutely embarrassed the Think Tank. Some of the greatest minds on the planet and he was like a slasher villain to them. Easily breaks free, plays with their toys, then when he wants to escape he does, damages one of them and uses another to get free. I can just imagine the sheer shock they had when a 'lobotomite' out smarted them at every turn.
I don’t know if the morons at Big MT deserve to be seen as among the greatest minds. They seemed to be quite dim witted.
Except those ghose great minds are being looped by recursive programming, which greatly hampers their intelligence and thinking abilities
I swear if there’s ever a fallout new Vegas remaster I’ll buy it in a heartbeat
Project Mojave
@@Waldpfanne point but what I mean is a official remake that’s available to console players too sorry for any confusion
@@mertyuip06
It was a try.
A Real remaster will be coming Son..
Sometimes :/
@@WaldpfanneDoubt it, MS may have bought Bethesda, but they've given them carte blanche with their projects. Can't seem them remastering a game where another team showed them up with 18 months of work.
It’s always bugged me that the model for Elijah in game doesn’t use the hairstyle that the hologram drawing was clearly designed to use
Ah yes, I remember robbing the treasure vault... glorious... emptying my inventory and equipment prior, looting the place of all non-gold bars, coralling all the gold bars into a single item...
The standing in front of the now singular gold bar, lifting it up, turning around, placing it down, running ahead of it, repeating until I reached the door before shoving it all of it into my inventory and becoming incredibly burdened but still able to go through the door to safety... good times.
Great video! Love that Elijah's story is tied into the other DLCs. It was a great decision by the writing team to make everything in the Mojave feel intertwined.
It's the fallout short man himself
Other factions: nooooo i have morals and political views and you dont share then waaaaaaaa
Elijah: im fucking insane lol
Elijah:I fucking love technology
I Genuinely didn't know you could side with Elijah, I can't imagine it would be the best ending though.
And amazing video as always.
Didn't know you could either, but yea in the short term it would be a very bad ending, but in the long term it could be a path to Humanity finally thriving again once all the squabbling factions have been subdued. Once Elijah kicks the bucket of age, what's to stop the Courier from taking what he started and building a new world that is better than the old?
Sorta like how siding with Mr. House is also one of the best long term endings cause it was calculated that as long as humans kept squabbling for every remaining piece of the pie, they were doomed to extinction within a few generations. Game really tests your morality and ability to think long term, cause a lot of the 'good endings' are really only a short term gain, long term loss, and some of the bad endings mean you have to become a monster, but save the world in the long term.
@@ThunderbolttheFox Not really. House doesn't care about the mojave, he only cares about his own ego. He is too blissful and doesn't understand how to run new Vegas nevertheless the entire desert
@@ThunderbolttheFoxbecause everyone's dead. He genocides the Mojave. Unless he starts kidnapping NCR and Legion kids then he's just alone in a desert covered with corpses, cloud and holograms
Elijah is 1 of my favorite fallout persons. This video is a godsend, thanks Syn
I have been curious about the Followers of the Apocalypse background and also how the children of Atom spread throughout the world. Perhaps a topic for a new video?
Elijah's Character Arc: _The hubris of man can be their own downfall if left unchecked_
Edgelords on the internet interpreting it: *Haha, funny robo lover wants to gas the wasteland, what a legend*
Literal definition of irony? Idk I was bad in English class
@@sgtstr3am785 yeah it's irony at it's best
Elijah mutants: hyugh Elijah good becuase slate or something
Do people actually unironically defend Elijah? He’s one of my favourite characters in the series but it pretty obvious that his ‘solution’ to fighting the NCR is evil.
@@KD--sj8eo Let's just say there's some people praising Elijah's character out there who conflate Real World politics and Mojave Fallout politics _waaaay_ too much
I've always liked the phrase "what a menace!" and I think Elijah fits it perfectly.
He's like the Walter White of the Fallout universe, and Veronica is his Jesse.
“Veronica, we need to research.”
@@DoctorProph3t
"There is no your half of the Mojave. There is only my all of it!"
"I watched Christine be lobotomized. I was there. I watched her be captured by the medical robots and Dean Domino. I could have saved her. But I didn't."
Wonder if he's run out of fancy lads snack in that vault yet
Thanks for waking me up with such good content
I remember the first time my friend told me about Fallout New Vegas. He said: Play it. But, before you finish it, play all the DLC's in this precise order. Once I did, I never expect that the whole story, was connected for a single man: Elijah. This three dlc's was for me, the best DLC's in fallout franchise.
Because of that reason I think Elijah is one of the most interesting characters in the fallout universe
@@wartoendwars987 And I have not doubts for it.
what order r u meant to play them in?
@@DickFaggotson333 Honesto hearts, Old world blues, dead money and lone some road. With that order, I can track all the way Elijah did.
Amazing video man! I loved the cinematic aspects and truly following his story as if I was next to him! Great job!!!!!!
I love the video. It makes so much stuff I've seen around the game etc make sense and link up, and it just makes me appreciate this game even more. Great stuff
Elijah is a character filled with so much lore. I didn’t even know the half of what you went over! I enjoyed the vid :)
Kinda random but I can't wait for your video on Mr. House, he's my default for who I side with in New Vegas and he's who I hope is the canon ending (probably not, probably the NCR but a man can dream)
The house *always* wins after all.
I don't think they will make canon ending, but if they did it wouldn't be the NCR. That is part of the reason they let you nuke them in Lonesome Road, they thought the NCR was getting too big and civilized.
I'm almost sure canon is House or independent. The whole game starts with the platinum chip so it would make sense that the upgraded securitrons decide the battle of hoover dam. The game is also literally called new Vegas
@@harrisonhurst6480 potential New Vegas 2 would be a full Bethesda title (or obsidian but the modern obsidian has like 1 developer left that worked on NV). The NCR is by far the most popular faction only second to the Brotherhood in the minds of fallout fans and alot of those fans just worship the faction without criticism.
I think house is the logical choice but If they ever touch the west coast again I don't think they'll go for it since besides Caesar (which would be a dope ending) it's the second most morally questionable and 'unpopular' (as is in less played) ending.
The fact that he broke veronica and Cristina up is sad. I really wish we could tell her that Cristina is alive.
@@smeggiamagarwine chad
That’s a good name
I approve
I brought Veronica with me to the Sierra and didn't even know about their past. It kinda spoiled the experience for me since, of course, she didn't react to Christine and vice versa.
@@hotlinesanzensekai7084 in the vanilla game you can't bring any companions in the DLCs so that's why
i burned both of them alive with an incinerator. 10/10 game
man i love this lores,they are so good and relaxing to listen while working or just watching,i love your content.
You know man, it’s been a long ride, glad to have been with your on your journey from 400 subs to 100k
Elijah is really the main antagonist of fallout new vegas if you could ever say there was one
LETS GO! Been waiting on some more Synonymous content, great vid!!
Thank you so much for creating such in depth content, it reminds me of the Nth Apple whom also used to make such content. Keep doing what you do man
this is so intensely well made I'm afraid of finishing it
Just when I think I’m done with New Vegas - I watch one of your videos and I’m playing it again. Love the in-depth work!
Can you do a story about the Sierra Madre, Dean domino, Frederick Sinclair, and Vera Keyes?? I love the story of it and I would love to hear it through you
Ditto! This is what I came to synonymouss channel looking for today XD
Thank you for this great lore ride. I just started another playthrough of FNV last night. It's like 'coming home', and I live in Wisconsin where it's like a nuclear winter right now LoL! I can't wait to get to the Sierra Madre :D
Patrolling the Wisconsin almost makes you wish for a nuclear summer
@@thedoggo5334 LoL! That it does. It's a whole 7 degrees without wind chill atm. Joyeee.
Thanks for this. I never realized there was a whole back story to this dude.
Elijah would love zetan technology.
Gotta say Syn, your videos are the main reason why I want to replay New Vegas
I feel like your voice could make anything interesting it’s very soothing, also Elijah is probably the most interesting character from new vegas, good to have a Full story so to speak
I love these lore videos. I love video games with overarching lore so you can smile when you know you figured it out while playing or learn about the little details you missed the first time
"Your collars wont explode anymore when you leave this place :)"
Oh, thats nice!
"yeah, i can explode them remotely now"
:I
That early morning upload, always wondered about this old guy.
“But getting in, that isn’t the hard part… it’s doing the glitch.”
Elijah is one of my favorite fallout villan in the series how he kidnapped so many people and used them. I would choose to trap him in the vault and leave him behind and once all the gold has been looted it won't attract treasure hunters so that Elijah wouldn't use it as an opportunity to enslave more people.
I mean, how would future treasure hunters know it empty.
@Billy Bob Barnabus that a fair point.
Answers so many questions I had for what i saw and acquired in the old world blues dlc like always thank you!
You know I really enjoy your channel you have that perfect RUclipsr voice
Thanks!
Dead Money: is about and teaches you how to let go-- hey wait what are you doing Courier you can't just take all the gold and sell it at Gun runners
Never knew how much of a badass Elijah was
Man if I had my own way I'd turn the sierra madre or dead money into a movie it's such a great story line I'm close to remembering every word that's said in the store ah man if I could just turn it into a movie
the last 7 minutes could be a stand-alone horror game. Him gassing you putting a collar on and you having to escape.
I was struggling and thinking , 'who would know a pun for this video?'. Then I realised, Elijah Wood! Another great vid, keep 'em coming!
I locked him in the vault with all the gold, minus 4 bars. I took some, didn't feel right leaving empty handed. Elijah wanted the vault, now he's got it and he can never escape. what greed dose to people huh.
very good episode sir, extremely proud of where your going and how far youve come
Ive always been fascinated with the various tribes of the series and the cyphers remind me of another tribe called the Luddites. Idk perhaps you could do an in depth video on the various tribes throughout the wasteland. Of course some are less talked about than some of the ones you interact with but theres still plenty more that are described more in depth. Not to mention you have the more primitive variants that youd expect like the white legs but then you have your more raider oriented tribes like the great khans and even the legion.
Dead Money is elite. In a very free-roam, play-as-you-choose game, they decided to make a linear gauntlet while also staying true to roleplaying by making you reliant on the character you've made instead of the Stuff you've found.
I like to think Elijah got trapped in the vault by the courier. But, by the time the courier is out of the sierra madre Elijah would be out of the vault and have open access to the main databanks down in the basement. There Elijah would spend the rest of his days doing what he loved, playing with all the tech in the sierra madre.
Not in my play through.I cut off his head to carry out all those gold bars
The game says he dies by the end if he gets locked in the vault so no chance of that happening. Besides Elijah wouldn't stay in the Sierra madre forever, he'd wage war on the mojave which was his goal to begin with
Yea, if you lock him in the vault, there is no ought besides his pipboy, and he even says as he is down there that there isn't much air, and he is struggling to breathe. The vault is Air tight so there is a very limited supply.
the notification came up but then the wifi was off! nightmarish!
awesome video, as usual.
cheers!
Love the video please make a video explaining Ulysses this well
Found your channel from the upload of the last video. I'm already done going through all your other videos so I'm excited for another entry.
you should do one on Christine, she has a interesting story
Been a fan of fallout since 3 when it came to Xbox. Super enjoying this channel. Binging everything here now. I know the older fans dislike what Bethesda did to the game from 3 onwards but I’m happy it happened, otherwise I may never have found the franchise. Even so, we don’t have to talk about the newer games lol
Schizo Elijah rn: 😅
Tks mantis.
Oxhorn
mikeburnfire
Radking
What?
Bravo! Nicely done. As is all of your videos I've seen.
Really enjoyed the video! Thank you for your effort n time ⏲️🙏
If Elijah didn't want to be locked in the vault, he should've let me walk out with 1000lbs of gold
Amazing video as always!! 💙
Underrated fallout lore channel right here. Much better than oxhorn and the like
I wish there was a better ending to such a memorable character
So glad to see youve got so many more subs well deserved
When the Ulysses vid comes out I will literally shit my pants, the hype is real
One of my favorite Fallout characters, not only is he a great villain with a good story but he also has the same name as me.
I took all the gold and left tons of food and supplies, not even intentionally I was dumping for space and only realized after and now I do it every playthrough
Awesome to see you back for the new year
Imagine a wasteland where the the NCR and the Brotherhood of Steel united.
You can convince the BoS to side with NCR for the Battle of Hoover Dam. It's pretty epic, with BoS Vertibirds fkn Legion shit up
I myself managed to trap elija in the vault and steal the gold, enabling the slowest walk ever
Imagine this is the cannon ending of new Vegas. Would explain how it looks at the end of Season 1 fallout show
This might be factual holy crap. Project Dust real?
My man put the whole script in the description. I love a good read along ❤!
You deserve 1 million subscribers, greatly well made content!
F in the chat for Dr. Klein's trains.
Unfortunate victims of Elijah's rampage. Very sad.
It is nice to see you back! Great video as always!
After locking Elija in the Vault, you can listen to him freaking out about his predicament and it's kinda messed up. Still he deserves it.
Elijah has enough lore to make a game for him, fascinating
This and the survivalist video are top
5 for Me
Elijah you should reinstall if you’re having that much trouble picking up the Sierra Madre station it just pops right up
This is Elijah's Mojave, we're just living in it, for now
Just started/finished this today! I didn’t expect the story to be so riveting lol
You should do a video going into the Fallout 4 concept art book where the start of the game would have been much more depth. You would have stayed longer in the pre-war timeline and see the US militia arrive and witness some residents protesting where water guns and tear gas is used. The elevator entrance was suppose to be a giant square door looking over the city of Boston and watch the bomb blow the buildings up as you and everyone else was lowered into Vault 111. During Shaun's kidnapping there would have been 3 Institute scientists involved 1 of which would have threaten your spouse to let go of Shaun and likely injured instead of being killed. This would allow both survivors to fight and find Shaun together as there is also cut dialogue in which Nora mentions that she took some stimpaks to recover her injury.
This start of the game would have more sense instead of the final version, where it feels rather rushed and you never get to really know your spouse, build a connection or even bury them when they are in the cryopod. Also mostly coming from a lore perspective, it would have more sense if the institute kept both parents alive as their DNA are both untouched by radiation so that if the Institute need more untouched DNA they can get a sample from both parents to better help the gen 3 synth study and production and give Shaun back when they no longer need him 👍
P.S - If some can made a mod to pull this off, that will be fantastic!
Thanks for the video and hard work Syn :)
"Sup brah, me and my holo-homies finna wipe this mf'ing slate clean. You in?"
"[NCR] Shit dude, where do I sign?"