Easy way to buff townie is to halve their task length and / or make their tasks 'simple' to complete. A way to buff traitor is to allow him to sabotage a task which works like the trapper but evil, completing that task kills the townie.
eh, i almost feel like that would just be a separate role. maybe make the regular traitor have a significantly shorter kill/spell cooldown? just generally make the normal traitors/townies really good at the things all traitors/townies can do?
I think they should buff Executioner either by having the player selected as his target be automatically framed,which causes them to appear evil to the sheriff and with blood on their hands to the investigator,or give the Executioner a second ability which allows him to frame people separately.
I've played LO a handful of times and the only way I see them being useful is if they can setup a camera that can only see a certain direction with a medium to small vector
Honestly, Prosecutor could be a role implemented in the original ToS. It would definitely help swing power towards townies when it's an evil heavy game.
I agree that it would be cool but prosecutor is like a different version of jailor and vigilante. The only difference is they can prosecute during the day where the town can't. That's not much of a deal though when og TOS daytime is solely meetings so prosecutor would have to immedietly select someone during nighttime and then itll kill them the next morning but that coupled with jailor (where they execute) and vigilante would definitely make an interesting game in a traitor heavy lobby 😂😂 I can't imagine all that with veteran as well
Neutral roles like survivor, amnesiac etc would make the game a lot more interesting. Tbh my favorite roles are the neutral ones cause I get to decide how I want the game to be played and which side I wanna be on rather than relying on the traitors or anyone else to do that for me. Amnesiac is a muuuust. While it's hard to find a dead body all it would need is an arrow (like in among us) that points to where a body drops and then you get to decide if you want to take the role and have a shot at whatever they couldve been. It wouldn't be overpowered because it wouldn't allow for 3 traitors at one time (one would have to die for you to become one). Another downside though is that traitors don't die enough through normal means (dies to the veteran) usually only through lynching so it would be 9/10 a crew role which would defeat the purpose. Still a cool idea they could work around tho!
Hey Pipe, I've been watching your TIS vods on twitch, I was watching the coroner games, and I thought that coroner would be more powerful if you could convince other players to bring you towards bodies (by announcing you're the coroner, and requesting this) you could then use your ability on the townie which will instantly confirm them (proving that it cannot be a self report), then report the body, giving the role more reach. The fact that this strategy is pretty useless against 2 traitors and still leaves you vulnerable as you can be baited still probably deserves an F tier though.
He was doing okay job of explaining what the roles did and why they were strong but then he gets to the Hexmaster and just says the Hexmaster hexes without explaining what hexing does and why that makes them S tier.
Day 150 of tracking D1 survivor claims. Yay five month anniversary Total Real D1 Surv count: 22 Total Fake D1 Surv count: 36 Total Unknown D1 Surv count: 4 Total Real Survivors who didn't claim Day 1: 24
Hmm I feel like veteran needs to be bumped down. Three alerts and it has to rely on that they attack you in that small window of time. The cooldown is quite long and the time for the alert isn't. While it is useful, that's a huge downside. A ton of ppl walk by that you think could want to attack you and when they don't you're out of an alert. It could just be you've had quicker games go by then I've experienced too. Besides that I agree!
Ngl if someone doesn’t wanna claim and you feel like it’s jester game innocent and tell people and if they just guilty then one of the revealed players will die to jester
I love prosecutor personally I was in this lobby that thought of me as a misfit until I got prosecutor role and prosecuted this person following me turns out he was hex master then everyone liked me now this isn’t the reason I like prosecutor it’s just a fun role for me
Hey pipe. Why not go through all the roles that you dislike or too op and maybe review them properly and maybe give ideas that can buff those roles to make them more useful making it more balanced in theory and practice. . Or maybe offer a few more role suggestions of your own for BMG to add. Like a Werewolf traitor. Can only attack at night and has an AoE attack.
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Traitors
0:29 Arsonist
1:27 Banshee
3:36 Cultist
4:44 Disguiser
5:36 Hex Master
6:32 Illusionist
7:23 Inquisitor
9:22 Jester
14:28 Necromancer
15:29 Poisoner
19:38 Serial Killer
20:12 Regular Traitor
20:22 Wildling
20:58 Wraith
21:39 Executioner
Townies
2:04 Coroner
8:33 Investigator
10:42 King
11:39 Lookout
12:17 Mayor
13:07 Medium
16:25 Prosecutor
17:12 Psychic
17:33 Saint
18:45 Seer
22:40 Sheriff
23:24 Regular Townie
23:33 Tracker
24:34 Transporter
25:10 Veteran
26:10 Vigilante
Thanks man
Easy way to buff townie is to halve their task length and / or make their tasks 'simple' to complete.
A way to buff traitor is to allow him to sabotage a task which works like the trapper but evil, completing that task kills the townie.
eh, i almost feel like that would just be a separate role. maybe make the regular traitor have a significantly shorter kill/spell cooldown? just generally make the normal traitors/townies really good at the things all traitors/townies can do?
Cultist in a nutshell:
Cultist: wololo
Former townie: narwini *becomes a traitor*
Wololo 🛐
@@dragonivy7597 wololo 🙏
No that's basically Cultist.
@@theCombine25343 that's what I said
Not sure when the full game will be out but you can sign up for an alpha key on their website
Hey Pipe!
Honestly this game until now is a bit disappointing.
The ability to check for someone's role is powerful especially when paired with a hm as your teammate
Psychic and coroner seem like they’re just the same role split in two.
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Don't mind me, just time stamping for the inevitable TiS death compilation :)
Idk what you're talking about townie is the best role, it's so good you have to ban it every game lol
I think they should buff Executioner either by having the player selected as his target be automatically framed,which causes them to appear evil to the sheriff and with blood on their hands to the investigator,or give the Executioner a second ability which allows him to frame people separately.
I've played LO a handful of times and the only way I see them being useful is if they can setup a camera that can only see a certain direction with a medium to small vector
They could buff coroner by having their effect automatically happen when anyone finds a dead body.
Or allow the ‘sample’ of the body to carry over. So u culd sample the body, report then next round try and target/find the killer
Mafia will be missed
Prosecuter is literally vigilante but cooler and only being weak to jesters
Prosecuters be like "updated autopsy report"
Honestly, Prosecutor could be a role implemented in the original ToS. It would definitely help swing power towards townies when it's an evil heavy game.
I agree that it would be cool but prosecutor is like a different version of jailor and vigilante. The only difference is they can prosecute during the day where the town can't. That's not much of a deal though when og TOS daytime is solely meetings so prosecutor would have to immedietly select someone during nighttime and then itll kill them the next morning but that coupled with jailor (where they execute) and vigilante would definitely make an interesting game in a traitor heavy lobby 😂😂 I can't imagine all that with veteran as well
Your wish became granted in ToS 2.
Are you softing psychic?
Hey Pipe! I was wondering if you knew when Traitors in Salem might get global launched? I love your videos and enjoy your content! Thanks! :)
Alt title: Townie is s TIER for sure!
8 comments this is the earliest I’ve been to a pipe video, but either way I’m excited to play traitors in Salem, and keep up the good work
Neutral roles like survivor, amnesiac etc would make the game a lot more interesting. Tbh my favorite roles are the neutral ones cause I get to decide how I want the game to be played and which side I wanna be on rather than relying on the traitors or anyone else to do that for me. Amnesiac is a muuuust. While it's hard to find a dead body all it would need is an arrow (like in among us) that points to where a body drops and then you get to decide if you want to take the role and have a shot at whatever they couldve been. It wouldn't be overpowered because it wouldn't allow for 3 traitors at one time (one would have to die for you to become one). Another downside though is that traitors don't die enough through normal means (dies to the veteran) usually only through lynching so it would be 9/10 a crew role which would defeat the purpose. Still a cool idea they could work around tho!
I'm feeling that Runescape music, Mr. Pipe :)
Hey Pipe, I've been watching your TIS vods on twitch, I was watching the coroner games, and I thought that coroner would be more powerful if you could convince other players to bring you towards bodies (by announcing you're the coroner, and requesting this) you could then use your ability on the townie which will instantly confirm them (proving that it cannot be a self report), then report the body, giving the role more reach.
The fact that this strategy is pretty useless against 2 traitors and still leaves you vulnerable as you can be baited still probably deserves an F tier though.
Coroner could be D tier if you use that strategy, but not everyone is so trusting.
Anyone else just watch just to learn what roles there even are instead of the ranking lol
Great video as always :) - Brim
Medium should see ghosts when alive.
Keep the good work up pipton
Can a King knight a Mayor?
Isn't regular traitor better than for example lookout? Since their ability to kill is far better than seeing twice as far
lol yeah but there being compared to the other traitor roles
Are neutral roles or competing evil factions planned?
No
Ngl I think this game is gonna be better then reg amogus
He was doing okay job of explaining what the roles did and why they were strong but then he gets to the Hexmaster and just says the Hexmaster hexes without explaining what hexing does and why that makes them S tier.
i think he is assuming people watching his vids already know the role from town of salem
S A L M U N G S U S
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Useless ability
Is this out in the USA yet?
Its still in alpha, wave 3. We have ppl from all over the world
Michael
Day 150 of tracking D1 survivor claims.
Yay five month anniversary
Total Real D1 Surv count: 22
Total Fake D1 Surv count: 36
Total Unknown D1 Surv count: 4
Total Real Survivors who didn't claim Day 1: 24
Hmm I feel like veteran needs to be bumped down. Three alerts and it has to rely on that they attack you in that small window of time. The cooldown is quite long and the time for the alert isn't. While it is useful, that's a huge downside. A ton of ppl walk by that you think could want to attack you and when they don't you're out of an alert. It could just be you've had quicker games go by then I've experienced too. Besides that I agree!
Ngl if someone doesn’t wanna claim and you feel like it’s jester game innocent and tell people and if they just guilty then one of the revealed players will die to jester
Prosecuter and Vigi are way too similar imo. Also why did they even change investigator from ToS?
Having no ability and having any ability... in the same tier...
This alone tells you how reliable the whole tier list is...
I love prosecutor personally I was in this lobby that thought of me as a misfit until I got prosecutor role and prosecuted this person following me turns out he was hex master then everyone liked me now this isn’t the reason I like prosecutor it’s just a fun role for me
Cant you just, reveal the role of the guy who killed you as medium?
I singed first day but still not in
Hey pipe.
Why not go through all the roles that you dislike or too op and maybe review them properly and maybe give ideas that can buff those roles to make them more useful making it more balanced in theory and practice. .
Or maybe offer a few more role suggestions of your own for BMG to add.
Like a Werewolf traitor.
Can only attack at night and has an AoE attack.
I'd argue vigilante is better then prosecutor because you can kill jesters and completely deny their haunt ability