YOW vs Smoothstar: Which One To Choose?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- YOW vs Smoothstar, what’s the difference between their build, riding feel, and who do I think they’re best for - here's a comparison to help you make a better decision.
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This video was originally 12 minutes long but I cut out a bunch so it was more concise and didn’t waste your time. Here are some points I left out.
1. My background I think is important so you know the angle this information is coming from. I started traditional skateboarding when I was five years old and I would mainly shred bowls and miniramps. Then I picked up surfing around 10, which I would do inconsistently. Im currently 25 and I’d describe myself as a surf heavy skater. I prefer to surf but I still surfskate and cruise a bunch. Basically if it’s a board, I’ll shred it. My surfing expertise is intermediate… I can’t do airs, but I can get barreled here/there and can do some cutsbacks/snaps somewhat regularly.
Surfskates are so appealing to me is because I live half the year in a land-locked state about an hour and a half from the ocean. Then spend the other half on the New Jersey coast surfing as much as I can.
2. I didn’t get to cover how these ride in bowls/skateparks because I have no local parks and have yet to try them out. I’m dying to shred a bowl, but I think you can still make a decision based off the riding feel and translate it into if you’d like to ride it in a bowl/skatepark. If anyone has experience, please share!
3. YOW S4 & S5 comparison. The S4 is basically more springy and snappier, which they say is not meant for anyone under 110lbs. I’m 160lbs and have been using it - no breakage yet haha. I actually prefer the S4 since it has a more energetic feel.
4. I adjusted the wheelbases to make them as close as possible for testing.
5. Drop a comment with any questions - I’ll do my best to help you out.
Just to think you had 1k subs last month
the imposter ص
@@deathcrab2901 lol really???
Hey you should keep this format, and add on the new format as something else. Like you have the review series and then an outdoor series. This format is what is working for you, don't abandon it or change completely! Add onto this and get even more eyes
@@rickeykoga2312 Appreciate the insight - you're right
Been here since the beginning, one of the best channels
Stoked, thanks so much for supporting since the beginning. Means a lot!!
Still kinda the beginning, this channel is definitely going to grow much more!
Also been here since 500 sub
Been here since 2k, its crazy to see how far hes came!
I own a smoothstar and my mate recently bought a YOW board and personally I prefer my smoothstar because i skate bowl alot and also cruising around with my mates is alot better because it doesn’t take out as much energy as the yow does as it is more rigid to pump and less smooth but it’s all a personal preference
Nice dude, thanks for sharing. I agree and I meant to put this in - the Smoothstar you don't need to exert as much energy as you do on the YOW. Exactly - all personal preference
Hi Mad, I love the smoothstar for bowls as well. I was wondering which wheels you use? The stock ones or different ones?
@@SunriseSessions i just run the stock ones currently but i do have a spare set which i like that are a bit bigger and have a softer compound. Once i have worn out the stock ones i will move onto those
My experience with these two is the same as you describe. I find Smoothstar better suited for sharp maneuvers in tight spaces, and YOW better suited for cruising. However,, unlike you said, I can cruise for literally hours on my YOW Malibu with S5 trucks. Although it’s 36” long with a 22.5” wheelbase, much better for long distance cruising than your shorter one.
Hey man, you deserve all the attention. There isn't enough quality skate content on RUclips, so thank you for meeting the demand for it.
I personally own a Yow Mandura 32" and im in love with it . I'm new in surf and surf skating
man i was just refreshing ur page excited for the vid😂👍
What?! Stoked to hear that. Thanks for watching!
@@concrete-waves next the Curfboard-Comparison please🙏 I'm about to buy one but nobody compares it to all those others. Would be so great to do that, bro
Hi! I miss a couple of things: 1) yow has two wheelbase options, by choosing the adaptor placing in position A or B. (the surfing feelings changes quite a lot). And 2) Yow has also two strength/resistance options (different spring sizes) when buying it.
I misread the subcount on the first vid I wateched from you, as 1.5 mil. I wasnt surprised. The quality of this content is at that level. So good. Thanks
congrats on hitting 50k! your channel inspired me to buy a waterborne adapter for my tugboat and I love it! can't wait to buy a proper surfskate complete!
finding a shred shack upload in my sub box is always a pleasant surprise
I think this is the only channel I subscribe to wherein I’ve never let a video slip by. They’re all awesome and informative. Great job! You definitely deserve to be featured.
I‘m personaly not into surfskating...more into downhill but I still enjoy watching your reviews. Very high quality straight from the beginning of your channel 🤙🏼keep it up bro!!!!
Thanks man, really appreciate you watching and for sticking around
bro I love your reviews and all your videos help me make decisions about what I am going to buy
Ayy my favorite skatetuber back with another banger!
I’m so excited for you! I can’t wait until your channel grows even more! :)
Thanks so much!
Well, I’d be lying if I said I was here for long, but you really helping me learn how to skate. I just wanna be cool. I appreciate you dude.
You guys are on top, waiting all week for your videos
Finally the time has come! Thanks
Love the videos, appreciate the fact that quality comes first, regardless of sub count. Looks like it's beginning to pay off. One question: what's your view/experience on Arbor Longboards? I'm thinking of getting one as my first longboard. Are there any better options? Future review?
I have been pumping my Yow for 20 - 30 km with no problem. I ride 34', but for longer rides it is of course better to have more length.
Nice! 34” is a really solid length. What’s the wheelbase ?
@@concrete-waves Don't know. It is Yow Padang Padang model.
@@ThinLineMedia must be 18.5" WB.
Awesome! Congrats on being featured, you deserve it mate 🤙
Thanks Shane, appreciate that bro!
Ayy
Digging the different intros in each video! :)
Gotta comment before your channel really blows up and it gets too crowded for a response! 😅
Waiting for someone to compare these 2 and you did it. Thank you! Congratulations on your channel!
Fair play👍🏻
I like your spartan way of describing things. It’s clean and precise.
What can I say mate, awesome job as usual, but that would be an understatement. Always doing amazing content mate, Keep it up!!!
Really appreciate you always showing up and showing support! Means a lot man
Been here since your first video. Knew this quality channel would get the recognition it deserves
Really appreciate you sticking around since the beginning!
just got a Yow 'rapa nui' for my first surfskate and so happy with it ! thanks for the review your content is top notch!
Stoked to hear that man! Shred on
Hey you probably won’t see this, but I was thinking that maybe it would be cool to do a cruising longboard wheel comparison. Just a couple of the major brands. They are all so competitive with each other that it can be hard to find a good wheel that doesn’t prioritize sliding and “thane”. Loving the videos, and your RUclips journey
Yo! Congrats on up and coming! Much deserved! Hopefully the surf skate is more than just a trend right now and maybe even thanks to you more shops will start looking at carrying them and giving people a chance to try them out!
that's the smoothstar I was thinking about upgrading to eventually, glad I caught this video
Been watching all your vids and Im so proud of this channel keep up the quality content bro
You deserve more subs man!
Really appreciate that bro! Thanks for showing up and supporting
Ye I saw your shark wheel vid, and I went straight for the other vids because this channel is rad!
I’ve rode both and I think your descriptions are spot on. The Yow is so smooth and cruises beautifully but a little divey compared with Smoothstar. The bigger softer wheels on Yow are nice too. I have the Smoothstar but I reckon I’d like both.
Stoked to hear that Craig, thanks for sharing your input. Both are really fun to ride
Now it might be time to bring the Curfboard into the discussion, I'm too excited what you will think...
Congrats on making it on creator on the rise keep up the great vids
You deserve each sub and view, your content is really high quality and very professional!
Your content is awesome and everything looks super professional. I was really surprised to see you didn't have more subs...but don't worry you keep it they will come.
Hey thanks I really appreciate that! More vids coming for sure
dang, congrats on 20k. you deserve it all the way!!
Thanks! Really appreciate that - thanks for the support
Good points that were useful. The S4 is meant for under 110lb and the S5 is for those above, though.
So that YOW was from their power series. I'm wondering if a YOW from their performance series would have made for a better comparison, like the YOW Snappers, which you have in the background, ironically enough. :)
im riding yow and swelltech, they are both good but for different things
- yow is more springy and have tightest turning radius and is great for carving and pumping, but still you turn by pressure to the edge of the board (if thats make sense), like on any other skate or snowboard
- and swell tech surfskate is the most twitchy, and it barely reacts to the edging - more like actual surfboard, so you have to always initiate a turn with your upper body, otherwise you will eat hard stuff
Got my Smooth Star #77. It's epic but for a guy in my 40's it's been brutal on my lower back. It would be interesting to drill down on that a bit. I've noticed there seems to be a bit of a common theme for peeps my age.
What's your take on their customer support? Shipment tracking was not up to date (online) & did they EVER release the updates to that training app? I gave up looking & apparently they couldn't be bothered alerting us already paying clients with an email alerting us if it ever DID update. I finally gave up. Their product is great, their surf rep is a hoot, but logistically they're in bad need of adult supervision. I should've been sent an app LAUNCH email. Wth.
I do love my Smoothstar Toledo 77 for performance though. It was a bday present to myself last year!
So cool seeing how fast you’re growing definitely earned it 👏👏
Really appreciate it, thanks!
I'm here for your journey bro. Keep making reviews, you'll get the subs
Thanks man and sorry for the delayed response !
I'm definitely going to get a smooth star now, thanks for the dope review!
Yup, no worries! It's a solid quality board, just the communication with the company can be a little confusing at times
Communication & customer support is KEY. I waited from the pre-order most for months last fall to get mine in January. The tracking service they use is not well updated throughout shipment, and usually well out of date. Whichever delivery service they used in the states sent partially crushed box (thankfully 🛹 intact) & tbh, Smoothstar didn't sent an actual adjustment info brochure, instead sent a card with info how to link to their training website which was being updated, and that process seems to have taken months. For the price & delay, they really need to proactively send out an EMAIL updating their paid clientele status reports on just WHEN those updates to the training app access, but they didn't. Not cool.
I barely ride cruiser boards and long boards but damn I love this videos
great video as always!!! thanks for all the effort you put into your videos, i hope you make it big one day! 💙💙
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that
I own a Carver with CX trucks and what I love with it is that you can actually push it like a normal skateboard on long distances. I would like to try the smoothstar but if you have to surfskate it all the time it really bugs me...
Yup, this is spot on. I love my Carver with CX trucks too. I'll only really use my Smoothstar for flat parking lots/short distances
Your work is crazy good! You deserve it!
Awesome content! I don't even skate (or however this is called) and I find your videos very interesting. I'm one of the new subscribers, keep up the good work!
Stoked to hear that, thanks Charlie! Appreciate the support a lot!
Can’t wait for that curfboard review. A truck that doesn’t need bushings or springs? I just need to know how it feels and is it legit or just another gimmick
woah I just check your sub count, over 21K! That's insane how fast you grew, good work
again another in-depth amazing video i hope your come up happens soon you derserve the best man good luck and have a beautifule day/night
Love your videos man, this is the skate content youtube was missing!
Appreciate that bro! Stoked to hear that
Has a long time skateboard and longboard fan i now just discovered the surfskate. Can't wait to try one but I still have to wait the end of cold season here in Canada. Thinking about hamboard fish surfskate for surfskate pumping session across de neighbourhood. Did you ever try this one ? I have watched the pescadito video and consider it as an option too. Thanks for your works ! Good quality content video !
I had a fish and now a pescadito. Great boards but not really pump boards like carver or yow. They carve beautifully and I usually ride it with a push paddle/stick. They don’t pump from standstill so I use the stick to push up a hill or develop momentum. Then you can start some deep and powerful carves and cutbacks. And I do mean powerful. Cause when you switch to a lighter smaller yow after a 20 minute session on the Hamboard you feel like you can pump the yow up a wall. It’s like lifting light dumbells after pushing heavy barbells. In airplane terminology yow turns on the yaw axis with the nose pointing left or ride while it simultaneously dives down and rolls on the long axis like a traditional truck. The Hamboard has an extreme tilt on the roll axis - allowing 30 degrees. So it makes fantastic carves in small spaces compared to a regular truck but not a tight cutback.
If you mainly want a surfskate then yow or smoothstar.
Brennan thank you for that wonderful compliment. I do take my hobbies seriously but always having fun. Most people work out while I’m just “playing”. Perspective is everything 😂👍
Nice! 👍🏼
When you upload it makes my Friday better thanks!
So stoked to hear that! Have a good Friday man!
Thanks you too!
I love the YOW but I'm adding the Smoothstar in my collection too. Thanks for the reviews bro
Both are solid! Smoothstar is usually more backordered and takes longer to get unless you have a nearby distributor. Thanks for watching!
I want a board that’s not giant, I can fit it in my car or even on a bus here and there. I want it to be versatile, user friendly, and just something I can vibe with. Mostly just something I can use for the most situations. Something that can take a hill without getting speed wobbles, something that can pop a trick or two here and there, and something that can take rougher roads and terrain. Suggestions? I was thinking about the landyachtz 33 drop cat or maybe the turbo dinghy. But I feel like I might get tired pushing on the dinghy after a while and I feel like it might get speed wobbles easily.
100% this guys gonna have 100k subs by the end of the year
Great comparison vid!
I use my Yow most too. After seeing your up close of the SmoothStar truck, I’m disappointed. Why? Because that spring mechanism looks like the C7. Problem with my C7 is when you let front-heavy-footed riders use it, who over pump the spring to generate speed, mostly because they don’t surf or know that ALLLLLLLLL SPEED generation should come from pushing through your back wheels and truck, and that the front foot is a LOOOOOOSE GUIDE, ONLY!!, they stretch the spring out unevenly and leave the mechanism bent to the direction of their front foot, imbalance, preference. I basically abandoned my C7’s because the springs are all stretched now from letting others ride my board. I just purchased a SmoothStar, but after seeing the truck up close, I’m wondering if the design, because of its similarity to a Carver C7, will have the same problems… I may buy another YOW. But great point about sizing! I have a 19”WB on my Ghost, and it’s magical. I have never been certain if it’s the WB or the truck, or combination, that makes it so much better than Carver. I was gonna put together a custom with a Meraki system, but I’m scared that WB might play a larger role than I suspect, despite my belief that the Meraki spring design is far superior to all others I’ve ridden.
Love my Smoothstar and don't forget with all SmoothStar boards you can adjust the tension!
me patiently waiting for his two week break to be up even tho it's onlu been 5 days cuz i miss his content already 👁👄👁
love your channel man.keep up the awesome work 👍🏼
Thanks man, more vids coming. Appreciate it!
congrats on your videos showing up on the trending page!
Thanks dude! Really appreciate all the support you've shown the past few months. Means a lot
Shred Shack is one of those channels where you just press like before you even watch the video.
@Shred Shack can i say i am an OG ive been here since 4k subs.
wow 21k
Happy for u bro 🤙🏼🔥
My setup is Yow S5, Smoothstar #77, Carver C7, Sixty-Six.
Sixty-Six is currently my do-it all if I’m heading out and no idea what I’ll find
Yow for more technical surf
SS for easy surf
Carver, just swapped from CX (last choice) to C7 (much better) - need more time
Suggestions
Get a Sixty-Six and review against C7
Outside footages demoing each board against same course to show case your riding and the boards
Thanks for the suggestions. What would you say the major difference is in the CX vs C7 you noticed? I have both and have yet to get a good grasp on the differences
@@concrete-waves thx, it would interesting to get a second opinion. C7 much looser imho, closer to other surf skates. Cx a combo truck for cruising and surf. I prefer to pump than use my foot. With CX is found I wanted them to be looser. Kept playing with the pin to make them work but never loose enough.
Love ur stuff man keep it up. I bet you have a lot of content coming up but i would love if you could review the magneto bamboo longboard
Can’t wait to see more keep up the good work 🙂🙂
Commenting to help the youtube algorithm recommend you to people who haven't seen your channel yet
Dang no dislikes? ur doing great dude
damn your videos are so helpful and youre growing so fast! amazing channel!
Man all this surf skate content makes me just wana go out and get an adapter
Waterborne is really solid!
Your videos are amazing and so helpful. Keep it up please
Thanks so much, appreciate that! More vids coming
Great analysis, I concur with the verdict.
Thanks for watching! You've tried them both?
can you make a video on how to properly care for and maintain a longboard? I'd really appreciate it
Thats a solid idea, thanks for the suggestion. Not sure when I'll get to it but I'll put it on the list
u already at 21k? last time i checked u were at 900. congrats bruh
Haha thanks bro. Yeah the growth has been crazy
Best review channel ever
love your vid! will you try SLIDE surfskates later on?
friendly constructive criticism. i think you should have MORE footage.. u explain everything great, but it seems like u mentioned thats what your doing towards the end of the video. goods stuff man..
Appreciate the constructive criticism and I'll take this into consideration. Thanks man!
Congratulations for the feature man! I’m happy to see the channel grow!
I love your video production man. Love your vids and i don't even skate i BMX. Keep it up man
Thanks dude, I really appreciate that!
Surfskate by swell tech so far offers the most radical turns due to supper narrow front trucks and ability to rotate 360 and surf like feeling comparing to Carver and mentioned above boards (have personally tried them all and own 2 Carvers)
1 thing about the yow adaptor:
Buy an Abec 9 barring if you use your surfskate to much. The ones they give you may broke
So proud of you!!!
Thanks for all the support - appreciate you!
been waiting since 5k for this vid!
Haha thanks for sticking around for it! Sorry there was a delay
If it’s a toss up to personal preference well then, Euskadi is a very cool place. Donostia, Mundaka, etc. Incredible people, amazing food. Personally I’d rather support people that congenitally cherish their freedom and independence than a place where people are arrested for drinking a 1/2 cup of coffee.
SNOWSKATE review for this winter please!
just want you to know im a sub since 11k :)
I'm considering picking up a surf skate and would like your opinion on what to consider when gravel-covered roads seem to be a common problem in my area. A particular truck or wheel hardness perhaps?
Cheers
I think that video about surf skate and commuting around city would be interesting topic...or would you recommend just sticking to cruiser for that?...I'm a beginner, so going around feels bit inpractical, and a slight uphill takes too much effort, but I was curious if it changes once one sharpen the skills?...
When I saw the title I thought it said YOOOOO
Where did you get your smoothstar? I've been looking in the US and can't find anything!
WOOO love these vids🔥
Stoked! Thanks for always showing up Ray! Appreciate you
I love the content you make keep it up
Really appreciate it! Thanks - more vids coming
I can't get a smoothstar in the UK. What would you recommend for me to get? I'm looking more for a surfskate trainer...
Great vid, I’m sold but how did you get your hands on these boards? There are no US distributors for either and the best option I’ve found is to potentially buy from Europe where these run about $400 plus shipping. The only option I have locally is a carver which is more of a cruiser than a surf skate trainer. Any tips to getting an overseas board? Thanks in advance for the help!! 🙌🏼🙏🏼🛹