Tories Losing Their Tempers In first Week of Opposition
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- There were some incredible scenes in parliament yesterday, as Kemi Badenoch and Victoria Atkins tried to tag team in disrupting a speech by Labour minister, Steve Reed. The Deputy Speaker seemed to be asleep and took some time to restore order, but the behaviour of the Tory MPs in interrupting was incredible. If this is what they think their members want to see, then the Tories are in trouble.
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The irrelevance of being in opposition is making Tories tetchy. It will get worse as the length of their irrelevant era sinks in.
Or it’s an attempt to stay relevant by being more psychotic that Reform….
The nasty party will never change
That's why we vote for them save a few abberations countable on one hand since Atlee
I think what it exemplifies is just how much the likes of Bojo and Farage have destroyed the soul of UK politics; their disdain for the system and inability to respect it has been seized upon because it worked !!
Now the tories know why they are the opposition
Looks like Badenock is the one that cannot handle her new job not Rayner. As for Atkins this is straight out of the MAGA hand book. She needs to be suspended from Parliament for a month minimum.
11 days will do!
Enough to trigger a bye election!!😅😅😅
Von Shitzenpants and his Magats could show the tories a thing or two in chaos...etc etc...
To stand up in opposition at the dispatch box was rude, beyond rude and shows exactly why they were booted out.
They have started to behave like a British version of American MAGA.
The British people should outright reject the Tories for wanting to turn the British parliament into the same type insane mental asylum as is the American Congress.
She wasn't.
@donaldboyer8182 the Tories (booted out of power, keep up)
@@donaldboyer8182 was that for me?
The former health minister was standing leaning on the opposition dispatch box wagging her finger at the minister.
Atkins is bang out of order.
agree in every car crash interview she has been the demented mouse but now all of a sudden she is beating her chest obviously trying to impress her forlorn party...god help us this is similar to a truculent teenage rant, so still in loss denial mode
I’m 24, I want my rights back, my EU passport back and had I been able to vote I would have voted remain, same goes for a lot of people my age I would say the majority in fact ( who was too young to vote in the brexshit referendum)
As a 20 year old I agree. fuck brexit
why? what are you not able to do because of your passport?
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@@lordstov8592 Dumb question. As an EU member, we would have rights of freedom to travel and work anywhere in the EU. Now as a third country, we have to apply to get those rights, separately, according to different rules for every EU country if you wanted to go live or work there.
@@paulhammond6978 so? If i wanted to migrate to australia usa or canada, I'd need to provide value through needed skills. Its the same with europe. Be of value.
This childish behaviour from the tories just means tories will be in opposition for longer than10 years. Give the tories a dummy, for they are all just big babies. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
I take offence at her shouting over the mental health stuff, I wanted to hear that. Petulant, spoilt, brats.
This lot are all Thatchers children. Sadly more Mark than Carole.
Because he was a young adult when Thatcher was in her peak.
@@evonne_oHer Peak of Utter AWFULNESS......it LASTED her WHOLE tenure.......
So there's a chance they might get lost in the desert while out for a drive?
@@dxrobinsOn a coach-trip? They could fit on a double decker.....😊😊
If only there was an Olympic event for self-entitlement, there are Conservative MPs who would win gold every time.
The Tory leadership race is an Olympic level event in self entitlement, rage and anger. 😂😂
It is the total responsibility of the speaker to control the debates. The speaker was asleep and should be removed from the role of deputy speaker.
Agree totally
My bet is the usual Tory rabble will shout, bawl, and behave like hooligans over Kier Starmer at the next PMQ's. This is so unprofessional and needs to stop.
Well said, Sirrah.
@@norawright807 You're a sirrah yourself bot.
@@norawright807 asse ole
Don't need to bother. Labour will demolish themselves like they have done so many times before. Three weeks on and it's happening.
Oh Phil.....both Atkins and Bedknob need to be banned from the H of Cs for their behaviour. Mr Speaker please sort them out once and for all. Dreadful and rude individuals......
The speaker can’t ban MPs, he can ask them to leave for the day and if they refuse it goes to a vote.
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I'm sure there's more... but have only seen Ian Blackford and Dawn Butler being given the red card for the day....both for the same thing... calling out Bojo for the liar that he is...
@@WilliamMacKenzie-dq6bf yes. The speak can name them and tell them to leave. If they refuse though he has to go to a division and get the approval of the majority of MPs to eject them.
There were a few of them discussing beforehand about who was going to barrack. Premeditated behaviour and should be a punishment for it. Labour should use it to introduce a code of conduct
What about Badinock's catty remarks about Angela Rayner which I think was even worse.
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Spot on......Bedknob should withdraw her remarks or get thrown out
He, Chope WAS one of 2 Tories who voted against the upskirting law being brought in, that person was correct ! It shows the poor quality in choice that party has, not least seeing the poor (quailty MP) Barclay, attempting to interupt & worse, Badenough & worse again Atkins . These 3 and Chope need to be removed to the back benches, with the 2 females being given a suspension of a week/fortnight beforehand!
So perhaps... just perhaps... he was hoping for an upskirt view of either of the two wayward MPs, when they stood up and bent over the dispatch box, and got distracted that way? 😁
@@finneogan ugh 😑 More likely interested in the likes of Angela Rayner, god help her !
She should have been named and removed from the house. All the speakers give the tories too much leeway.
My friend was 16 when the referendum took place, angered she wasn't allowed to have her say on her own future. Now a fully qualified NHS nurse with a few years in-post, she is attracted by the potential paypacket being offered in Australia.
Good, tell her to leave we don't want her
For the record, it's bots like 5915 that aren't wanted nor needed.
On the other hand the UK is rather short on medical personnel.
As a previous NHS nurse now in Australia, I can empathise. The NHS pay is poor yet the work is relentless, often working additional hours to meet the needs of patients… and completely undervalued (as perfectly demonstrated by this other commenter)
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I spoke to one who has interviewed Badenoch- she's a nightmare because she won't be contradicted or undermined by truth.
No, she will be way easier to wind up than Johnson or Sunak.
@@ADifferentBias that might be fun, I could with a laugh, distracts me from not getting medical treatment! A few giggles at their expense is a helpful pain killer. Btw, hope you're doing okay after your hospital procedure Phil, all the best of that✌️
I'm sorry, Phil, both houses are long overdue for reform (not the Nigel Farage type).
What counts as “bringing the house into disrepute” that the speaker has the power to address?
No such things under BERCOW ....... call him back !!!!
Victoria Atkins is the daughter of Robert Atkins a compatriot of Christopher Chope in the Conservative party.
Christopher Chope, the Private Members Bill guru.
I was a Young Conservative back in Ted Heath and early Thatcher's time. No longer.
Well yes. You would be an extremely old young Conservative were you following the same path.
@@norawright807 true, but my politics have perhaps have bucked the trend insofar as I am now joining the most liberal and progressive party in Latvia where I now reside. I mourn the lack of constructive dialogue in the country of my birth.
@@aijaheloisepince5306there is no excuse for supporting The Witch
She wasn’t even there for the debate. She came in late and then attempted to intervene
Only the shadow defra minister has the right to use the opposition despatch box during a debate raised by the defra minister..
That was Stephen Barclay.
@@johnrussell3961 didn’t know that. Makes it even worse!
Hoyle isn't a good Speaker. The Bercow "bullying" allegation was ridiculous.
It was deputy speaker Christopher Chope in charge . He only reacted when MPs glared at him demanding he take action
Oh, to have Bercow back. It was a damned shame that he was ever replaced as speaker.
hoyle still got the after taste of borris in his mouth still.and misses it .
@@irishvicar1963 Chris Chope? How did he get that job?
@@paulhammond6978 Tory MPs would have proposed and voted for him ….., just as bad is Edward Leigh is another deputy …… never heard of the Labour deputy speaker
Chope should be sacked as a Deputy Speaker for failing to act in reasonable time to such outrageous behaviour by Atkins .
Great video and analysis so delightful to see the infighting
Victoria 'Alina Habba' Atkins......popcorn time!
Ah! Ali HA BA and the forty liars.
What I think is making the Tories so upset is that Labour genuinely seem to be trying to fix the disaster they've inherited.
Perhaps there's a realisation that had they not taken the people for granted, and not feathered their own nests so much, they might still be in power.
Just leadership games, they ran into the chamber specifically to harass the minister and yes the deputy speaker was having a snooze.
Can we please stop calling it sleeze, corruption is the word we should be using.
In the Australian parliament, the standing orders allow the Speaker to direct the answering minister to be relevant to the question...
But it depends on the speaker - the position of Speaker in the Australia is not as independent as it is at Westminster
Until the minister is finished, all MP’s can do is shout point of order at the speaker.
Disliking what the minister is saying…is not a point of order.
Just imagine if, as many in the “kick the tories out” did, if the Lib Dems had become the official opposition to labour!
Shocking behaviour, but not unsurprising given who it was. BadEnoch is contemptible anyway, and Atkins is an idiot.
Maybe a 'teach in' about how opposition members are to proceed!!!!! Talk to them as naughty, ignorant, children!!!!
What i would love to see is a mostly silent house.
So Keir Starmer has addressed his own party before PMQs to remain silent & not be baited. Given a heads-up to Ed Davey & then return to his seat anytime the house gets rowdy. Lets see how fast the braying mob understands the message & if Hoyle knows he has the power to send loudmouths away.
This happened in 1997. The Tories can’t believe they’re still not in charge.
Did they throw their toys out of the pram after losing in 1997 as well?
Won’t take long for the speaker to kick these two women out.
As for the IT disaster the Airports in Holland were shut down, Was the due to the Labour Government.
Aged 15 I stowed away on a Coach filled with YCND types headed for the Broadcasting house in London.
A live radio debate on Defence and Nuclear weapons was held.
Anti Nuclear was represented by the sixth form students and Paul Weller as guest speaker.
Pro was Michael Heseltine as the sitting Secretary for Defence.
The debate was measured and polite and afterwards there was the chance to meet the Guests speakers.
Paul Weller was mobbed and did well, I was the only one to approach Heseltine and shook his hand, thanked him for his attendance, he was happy to talk about the issue again for a minute. He has since seemed more sensible than most Tories, but that is a low bar. Cheers
Funny isn’t it, the self importance of these people is incredible
I think Badenoch & Atkins were inebriated.
I disagree. There are no honourable Tories that we disagree with.
Their policies make people die. If they know that it's murder. If they don't know then it's lethal negligence.
The only reason I heard Rory give for being a Tory was liking the monarchy (fair enough) and liking tradition. Which is pretty meaningless. I love Christmas too. I also love my people, unlike Rory.
Unfortunately I agree with you. I don't do people who commit harm when there are other options ✌️
Love seeing these Tory ex ministers well what’s left struggle with the reality that they are no longer in control. Love seeing it
Poor little Tories! Ah diddums!
Atkins and Badenoch were out of order, but to be fair to Chope, he told Atkins thst she had behaved abominably.
Not Quickly enough though....And She should have been ejected from the house....bringing it into disrepute.......Again!
MPs literally were demanding he do something
Oh dear,just what we had to do 14 years ago.Tories have no right to rule
As Corporal Jones (Clive Dunn) used to say in Dad's army: "They don't like it up 'em"
😂😂
Quite concerned to see how few MPs are present this early in the Parliament.
Summer hols time
Elsewhere BadEnoch & Atkins have been compared to republican airheads Taylor-Greene & Boebert.
May just be a case that being placed on the left of the room throws Tories off their game
they think they are entitled to power
Victoria Atkins should be referred to the Committee on Parliamentary Standards. Her Constituents would be well advised to mount a recall partition.
Oh, for the return of John Bercow.
There is one benefit to having Christopher Chope as Speaker, it'll drastically reduce the number of Private Member's Bills.
There's no conviction behind this unparliamentary behaviour. There's no genuine point they want to make. Their intention is simply to be as disruptive as possible. Like children who can't stand any other kid in the group but them being 'leader', they wilfully try to spoil proceedings, presumably imagining that ruining the game will be blamed on their rival and the focus of their malign discontent
The anagram today is, Atkins- Astink 🎉😊
The Tories are not fit even for opposition.
Congrats on your engagement. You're not looking the healthiest. I hope you're taking care of yourself
This is what a 'Strong and stable' party looks like.
In the US House we frequently hear, “Reclaiming my time.”
All news reports on that stupid woman, today say speaker says she acted abysmally EXCEPT the daily mail which says there was a shouting match! Ffs, those liars, makes my blood boil 😠
Do the Tories realise that they are now out of power. They are throwing their toys out of a pram that is no longer theirs. They themselves were thrown out. Do they not realise that they hit the floor on the 4th of July? The behaviour of two of their potential leaders was childish, laughable and delusional and does not auger well for the party's future.
The thick of it writers must be kicking themselves with what's happened tha last years.
Had they thought up these as stories we'd have 10 series of the thick of it or more
I thought you said “old liars”not “old lions”, still think without any doubt “just liars”.
Hard to change roles from being Preda-Tory to being Nuga-Tory
Tories still think they are above everyone else and can behave like spoilt brats
Entitlement is addictive. At least she's not saying voter fraud is why she's in opposition.
For a moment I thought that the banner said 'losing their tampons'.
I was rather hoping for a greater picture of the run-up to the Victoria Atkins incident here. The rest was suitably informative and entertaining though, Phil, so I'm glad I came here. It was very relatable when you looked into her political background and said something like, "Oh! She's about the same age as me!". It very often happens like that when I look some personality or another up and it's a case of a birth date being either close to my own or to that of some other personality in the public eye of some significance to me.
Surprised they are not fined for acting like that
He doesn't have the power to compel MPs to tell the truth but he probably does have the power to eject members for acting in such a way as to bring parliament into disrepute.
Misconduct of Members or Officers is officially contempt of parliament which certainly should include lying.
Have a grog Phil.
There is no bunce in it for the tory party any more
Kemni went to parliamrnt 2017. So she has sat on front bench for yrs and not noticed procedures.
Tory won Gordon and Buchan cos labour and libs didn’t tactically vote for SNP
They don't feel entitled then?
God I hope Liz Truss still has the clout to demand candidacy at a by election. Be an absolute hoot to watch her lose again
Thought aunak would be gone by first pmq. Couldn’t see him standing up in opposition. Beneath him. But still time I guess
Hoyle is useless. Chope would be lousy, he seems half asleep and he's a nasty piece of work anyway, but that doesn't make Hoyle any good.
I suppose that it is a bit frustrating when you can't lie your mistakes away while they are pointed out to you ?????
Atkins has caught the MTG and Bobert disease..
😂😂😂😂 Love it. Angry sad Tory losers 🤣❤
Christopher Chope was the one who objected to upskirting being made a criminal offence. He also objected to an FGM protection law. Proper effing dinosaur.
That's bad! Especially fgm!
Really looking forward to the Government’s response to the ICJ ruling.
According to Save the Children there are: 4.3 million children in relative poverty after housing costs (30% of all children in the UK), 100,000 more than last year
One must feel for their long-held frustration.
I'm not surprised. What the hell is Labour doing to this Country.? You're not helping either.
The Speakers are so weak
Seems like the Home Secretary lost her temper. Unseemly behaviour at the despatch box when confronted by Mr Cleverly. Works both ways. None of it bad enough for Mr. Speaker or his deputy.
Hansard should be allowed to use Emojis. 🤪
Heat pumps on individual properties isn't the most cost effective or greenest option. It would be much better to go for community heat and power as a requirement for new build estates (I've seen it on a few large estates recently). This can be air-source, but vertical ground-source heat pumps provide a higher temperature for energy input ratio and can supply multiple properties very reliably, but are expensive to install, so only work at a community or larger scale. The Munich model is great, but I doubt Labour will be as brave.
The worrying thing is the speaker allowed it to happen, both should have been dismissed from the house immediately, thishas set a dangerous precedent.
So you suggest caging in the opposition and only let them sit near the opposition dispatch box when they are the shadow minister?
Also Labour at dispatch box should call to the Deputy or Speaker to do his job. But Chope as Speaker - the person who stopped upskirting become a legal offense, the one who wanted workers to be able to opt out of the minimum wage, climate change sceptic and Brexiteer -which mps would vote for that now?
Just with reference with young people in their early 20s I would say that they also know what we have lost, based on my own experience and also the opinions of other students at my university that I have spoken to. Particularly on freedom of movement.
Victoria Atkins auditioning for the role of Marjorie Taylor Greene?
Sometimes an umpire will wait while something develops to "Give them enough Rope" they took more than enough.
They thought they knew how to act when in Power and assume they can act the same in Opposition. wrong both times.
It was a hot week so drink enough and get your feet in a bucket of cool water.
Scottish new builds have heat pumps. At least where i stay. Heat pumps especially air to water r g8.
Its asif the ticket inspector just got onto the gravy train....lets hope he asks for Tory's tickets, they know a reconings coming !!!! ; 0)
Good Tories... Baroness Warsi I guess.
Phil,
I think that ground to air heat pumps ought to be encouraged on new build sites. So much more efficient once installed, but difficult to retro fot.
Solar panels are only affective if the house is pointing in the right direction, heat pumps are ok in some places but they aren’t the great power panacea, I’ve had them I had the solar panels removed, they need maintenance and some parts replacing, I’m disabled so doing this stuff is beyond my abilities. Sorry, I still hate and loath Thatcher, she sold our industries, tortured the poor bloody miners and on and on and on.