IMPORTANT UPDATE So Al'ar was actually changed on the PTR right after uploading this. There are 6 platforms she can land on in phase 1 and it's random which ones she goes to. Also in phase 2 you need to STACK for divebomb and then the whole raid quickly moves out of the way to avoid the aoe. Sorry for the confusion!!!!
Don't kill the adds, it's a massive bait they have too much health and the explosion does 8k damage, will likely kill your tank. A paladin can easily tank all of them for the whole fight.
was about ot mention ^^ id also say the double tank in full arcane res strat on the...third boss (not syaign the name) is the more common and 'cleaner' strat used on ptr andddd also the full stack on reaver with only 2 - 3 ranged dps to take care of the spark things. Typically hunters but in reality any ranged can sit at ranged and move when they need too
As much as I appreciate the accelerated pace in order to make them viable guides, I kind of miss the memes that went into AQ40 and Naxx's Dungeon dive video. Still a fantastic video though.
I mean, he should only quit if he doesn't have fun. People still use and defend stuff like IPhones even though it's made with literal slave labor (yes, not low paid, actual slaves forced to do it against their will). I'm with Asmon on this one, if the next WoW expac looks fire, people will forget everything. Gamer boycotts never work. This is coming from a guy who does not even play the game.
Such fun guides i hope you do them for all the raids and dungeon.. i love hearing the mechanics you never got experienced with a modern high lvl toon in wow.. plus good if your playing classic
@@NostraDavid2 The original voice actor for Kael'thas, Quinton Flynn, has some grooming/general sexual assault allegations going on currently so they stripped his voice lines from the game and replaced them with new ones. It's ironic considering the current Acti-blizz dilemma but that's the way it is lol
If you weren’t aware, alar was post nerf when guzu first cleared TK, if you do Al’ar right now she is not scripted anymore, they changed her without telling anyone, I can show you footage and logs that prove she has 6 platforms and meteor does 150k damage if not soaked between players, she can go from the platform she lands to different platforms if she chooses to do so. just wanted to let you know.
The fight of Al'ar in PTR is not quite like this. The adds may not spawn in phase 1, the boss switches between 6 platforms instead of 4 and not in particular order, the dive bomb instant kills one player and therefore requires stack up and splitting the damage etc.
Well, the meteor doesn’t technically require stacking up, you can just sacrifice the couple unlucky ppl like Nihilum did back in 2007 on their world first :D
@@arrowettewang8449 It's a lottery in the end, it can murder all your most important people without your raid having enough soulstones / combat resses. I would say that was the reason why most guilds chose to stack and just eat the aoe dmg and bandage it afterwards. Especially back in the days when the avg guild's raid dps wasn't that high to sufficiently reduce the number of meteors per encounter. Nowadays ofc the bar for avg guilds is way way higher, so ending up sacrificing like 3 or 4 ppl at most doesn't sound so bad.
hey platinum wow, there is one more thing on kael'thas in phase 3 and 4 that is not working as intended on ptr. when adds spawn in phase 3, they have a threat whipe that is supposed to take all threat away, but it is now limited to 30-40 or so yards. that means anyone outside of that range will have their threat from phase 1 still on the table and will get instant aggro, making the adds run across the room and destroy them before any tank can build up enough threat. usually, we see warlocks outside of this range with 50k threat on the table at spawn, not particularly ideal. everyone needs to be within 30 yards of all the adds when phase 3 starts. ofc, this does not apply to thaladrad the darkener, as his threat table is not used at all - he just gazes random targets so killing him in the back of the room is perfectly fine. this also happens for phase 4 when kael'thas spawns. anyone outside of range will have a bunch of threat when he spawns. if you look at TSW stream, when they hit phase 4, a random druid on the other end of the room had 18k threat on kael'thas because he was outside of the threat reset range. also, in phase 4, kael'thas randomly drops threat on main tank when mind control goes out. it doesn't happen every time, but when it does it reduces tanks threat to 0, and ppl must let the other tanks be 2nd or 3d. you can see that in guzu kill where main tank is not MC'ed but still disappears from threat table and kael'thas goes off and kills a shadow priest and a warlock before going on next tank. shadow priests and warlocks can switch to phoenix targets when their threat goes too high to let it fall back a bit.
Would be nice to call out that alar is immune to fire and reaver immune to arcane for your mage/weird warlock fans out there. Other than that great vid, big fan.
Solarians "Wrath of the Astromancer" shouldn't be able to spread to multiple people, only the closest target. From all my private server experience it has only ever a single-target thing, even on PTR as well. I'd suggest just making 2 camps, one of them being the "safe" group you'd go to after Wrath has bounced and you've got the +dmg debuff
I just wanted to point out in a lot of your videos you use "Casted" - "Casted" is not a word. The correct usage is "Cast" regardless if it is being used once or multiple times.
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12:45 "after those 30 seconds are up, make sure you're not too high up in the air because you might fall to your death and break your legs." I wouldnt care about my legs once i am dead, would i?
Very strange KT positions. Can be super hectic doing it that way and not a lot of room for error. Having capernian at the back of the room is ideal so no one can even think about messing up and getting too close from a conflag. This also allows Sanguinar to be tanked at the door where the tank can always los the fear (melee can too). If you keep the bosses clumped like this there's a lot of room for error. Also kiting Thaladred is very clanky and you lose DPS this way.
Oh man I miss these days. Our guild had macros set up for when one of got mind-controlled during the trash where we would NUKE them! We had so many laughs when one time we killed one of our team members and got an honorable kill for it. 🤣
or abuse hunter pets and shadowfiends when landing (that they attack the boss and prevent the cast of flame buffet for a few seconds while the tank is running) -then you need 2 tanks - or maybe 3 with 2 platforms each
sooo... i find this weird.... i checked other guides aswell, and some guides say you should spread out on the meteor, and other say you need the whole raid to stack up on meteor to split the damage caused by it....any intell on that ?
didnt mention the Sentinel charges after overcharge aoe damage so a big double hit for melee, been dead every week to it if i dont run out for arcane aoe :/
@@brandoncastellano1858 right? They won't though. They jumped the gun because "virtue signaling" even though a bunch of them there were guilty of being creeps themselves
@@brandoncastellano1858 no it was just blizzard trying to disassociate with someone who came under fire for accusations that turned out to be false. The whole thing just seemed unnecessary. Kael'thas is my favorite character in WoW and I cringe whenever I hear his new VA
Is Platinum WoW kind done with TBC? Like you sound litterly like I feel when playing TBC, unmotivated and soulless. Nothing against you man, I still think the video is well done and love your content in general, just feels like the TBC Dungeon Dives are forced Guide videos, while the classic guides feeled like fun and cool guides you would watch not for the informations but the entertainment.
good job on boss skills onece more BUT on Kael Thas i highly disagree killing Astromancer there? just md it to the back of the room to the warlock and no one can even get close bad tanking spot and not needed at all u can decide if u kill her last on p3 or if u kill her 2nd but that is like whatever since the warlock is in fire res gear anyway with assigned healer...
IMPORTANT UPDATE
So Al'ar was actually changed on the PTR right after uploading this. There are 6 platforms she can land on in phase 1 and it's random which ones she goes to. Also in phase 2 you need to STACK for divebomb and then the whole raid quickly moves out of the way to avoid the aoe.
Sorry for the confusion!!!!
Flame quill also does damage to the whole of the outer ring not just the upper platforms :)
buffet is not pronounced buffit, its pronounced buffay
Don't kill the adds, it's a massive bait they have too much health and the explosion does 8k damage, will likely kill your tank. A paladin can easily tank all of them for the whole fight.
@Gregory Koven whoosh
was about ot mention ^^
id also say the double tank in full arcane res strat on the...third boss (not syaign the name) is the more common and 'cleaner' strat used on ptr
andddd also the full stack on reaver with only 2 - 3 ranged dps to take care of the spark things. Typically hunters but in reality any ranged can sit at ranged and move when they need too
I'm pretty sure no dungeon dives' video will surpass the epicness, fun and quality of AQ40 and Naxxramas' videos.
Still this is a good one.
As much as I appreciate the accelerated pace in order to make them viable guides, I kind of miss the memes that went into AQ40 and Naxx's Dungeon dive video. Still a fantastic video though.
I kinda sounds like work and not like having fun with the content :/
Yeah, as somebody who quit wow ages ago I only watched the guides for the memes/prod value.
Now they're literally just guides with good prod value.
RIP
@@pinoarias8601 sorry that you are not enjoying the guide video being a guide video and not a meme comp.
@@LongPape Do you think the guides are better without the extra bit of humor? I don't. But i see your point.
Your videos are still enjoyable whether I play the game or not
Oh I don't even want to play the game and I'll watch these.
@@Skonkgasm same tbh, I quit wow after 9.1 released but Platinum WoW's vids are always enjoyable
@@Skonkgasm agreed; it me rn
@@illidan2425 hes explaining a classic raid not retail one
Hey Platinum. Thank you so much for all of your hard work for making amazing content these past years. Keep it up man!
Magheridon: "Take my *bleep* and choke on it!"
I lost it 😂
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Kael'thas: "Tempest Keep was merely a setback nothing more..."
The Accuser: "Sure little blood elf.... sure..."
I'm so happy they made him say "as you can see, Magister's Terrace was merely a setback" in Shadowlands. =')
Other RUclipsrs: "I'm quitting wow"
Platinum: "There is no war in Ba Sing Se"
What?
@@Jive33 while everyone else is putting out "wow is ded" vids, Platinum is the only one i've seen just making their normal content
I mean, he should only quit if he doesn't have fun. People still use and defend stuff like IPhones even though it's made with literal slave labor (yes, not low paid, actual slaves forced to do it against their will). I'm with Asmon on this one, if the next WoW expac looks fire, people will forget everything. Gamer boycotts never work. This is coming from a guy who does not even play the game.
@@davemustang8173 but what does “Ba Sing Se” mean?
@@Jive33 if you don't already know then it's too late for you
Such fun guides i hope you do them for all the raids and dungeon.. i love hearing the mechanics you never got experienced with a modern high lvl toon in wow.. plus good if your playing classic
That changed Kael'thas voice just feels wrong.
So it wasn't my imagination. Why did they do that? His voice was fine no?
@@NostraDavid2 The original voice actor for Kael'thas, Quinton Flynn, has some grooming/general sexual assault allegations going on currently so they stripped his voice lines from the game and replaced them with new ones. It's ironic considering the current Acti-blizz dilemma but that's the way it is lol
@@SquatchViking I think hes been cleared of all that so kinda sucks but its what blizzard does.
Blizzard being hypocrites. What else is new.
@@llgxz its not hypocrites they just are scared about this ...
Flame quill is NOT the upper platforms its the WHOLE outer circle. This will cause some deaths if people think all they have to do is jump down: )
If you weren’t aware, alar was post nerf when guzu first cleared TK, if you do Al’ar right now she is not scripted anymore, they changed her without telling anyone, I can show you footage and logs that prove she has 6 platforms and meteor does 150k damage if not soaked between players, she can go from the platform she lands to different platforms if she chooses to do so. just wanted to let you know.
In a better timeline, the Power Rangers theme is used as the opening.
I really miss the intros
Incredible, informative and well paced content. You da man.
@:34 Take My "Whaaa?" and Choke On It!? Like how you bleeped that part out lol.
hahaha i can't stop laughing at that Bleep of magtheridon, Jesus!!!
Guildie: *shares this video with me*
Me: "Hey thanks dude"
also me when I see the end: "...hey wait wtf"
Excellent video but i miss those epic intros you did for the raids
He said that it was to troublesome to make them, with copyright and all.
Aah i see yeah music copyright can be a hussle to deal with
Maybe make a separate video? Kinda like a prequel.
The fight of Al'ar in PTR is not quite like this. The adds may not spawn in phase 1, the boss switches between 6 platforms instead of 4 and not in particular order, the dive bomb instant kills one player and therefore requires stack up and splitting the damage etc.
Well, the meteor doesn’t technically require stacking up, you can just sacrifice the couple unlucky ppl like Nihilum did back in 2007 on their world first :D
@@Jefffrrry was thinking if that would be better, because even after splitting the damage it is still great pressure on heals.
@@arrowettewang8449 It's a lottery in the end, it can murder all your most important people without your raid having enough soulstones / combat resses. I would say that was the reason why most guilds chose to stack and just eat the aoe dmg and bandage it afterwards. Especially back in the days when the avg guild's raid dps wasn't that high to sufficiently reduce the number of meteors per encounter. Nowadays ofc the bar for avg guilds is way way higher, so ending up sacrificing like 3 or 4 ppl at most doesn't sound so bad.
I heard that Al’ar is immune to fire, is that true?
@@Buggaroll that is true, so dont be a fire mage or fire warlock
You forgot to tell players to hope that Kael isn't bugged to hell. I still have flashbacks to BC.
I was fucking ecstatic for a week back when I got Peep the Phoenix. God damn 2007-08 was my favorite time in WoW
>tfw the original Kael VA is replaced with the new one
the old one has an sexual assault allegation ... so now u know why theyre do this .
@@OmarxitoEveryWhere Which was proven false.
@@frostyprobe yeah i know , but at this moment ppl is burning everything .
@@frostyprobe Only the recent one that caught wind...
Quinton Flynn is a massive creep, he should have been fired sooner.
I had "Systems Shutting Down" as my computers shutdown sound back in those days.
yaaaaaay platinum is back, thanks for the content fam, love it a lot
hey platinum wow, there is one more thing on kael'thas in phase 3 and 4 that is not working as intended on ptr.
when adds spawn in phase 3, they have a threat whipe that is supposed to take all threat away, but it is now limited to 30-40 or so yards. that means anyone outside of that range will have their threat from phase 1 still on the table and will get instant aggro, making the adds run across the room and destroy them before any tank can build up enough threat.
usually, we see warlocks outside of this range with 50k threat on the table at spawn, not particularly ideal.
everyone needs to be within 30 yards of all the adds when phase 3 starts.
ofc, this does not apply to thaladrad the darkener, as his threat table is not used at all - he just gazes random targets so killing him in the back of the room is perfectly fine.
this also happens for phase 4 when kael'thas spawns.
anyone outside of range will have a bunch of threat when he spawns.
if you look at TSW stream, when they hit phase 4, a random druid on the other end of the room had 18k threat on kael'thas because he was outside of the threat reset range.
also, in phase 4, kael'thas randomly drops threat on main tank when mind control goes out. it doesn't happen every time, but when it does it reduces tanks threat to 0, and ppl must let the other tanks be 2nd or 3d.
you can see that in guzu kill where main tank is not MC'ed but still disappears from threat table and kael'thas goes off and kills a shadow priest and a warlock before going on next tank.
shadow priests and warlocks can switch to phoenix targets when their threat goes too high to let it fall back a bit.
I remember when platinum had no subs. My baby boy. All growed up.
Black Temple and Hyjal guide when?
love guzu
I love the intentionally misspelled words, the phoneix got me…
Would be nice to call out that alar is immune to fire and reaver immune to arcane for your mage/weird warlock fans out there. Other than that great vid, big fan.
Thanks for that, as a mage that’s hella nice to know
Void Reaver is not immune to arcane, Al'ar is immune to fire though.
Im so nervous for the new guides ^^ especially the intros o.0
Nice of you to make this handy-dandy guide for the 20 people still left playing.
Solarians "Wrath of the Astromancer" shouldn't be able to spread to multiple people, only the closest target. From all my private server experience it has only ever a single-target thing, even on PTR as well. I'd suggest just making 2 camps, one of them being the "safe" group you'd go to after Wrath has bounced and you've got the +dmg debuff
I just wanted to point out in a lot of your videos you use "Casted" - "Casted" is not a word. The correct usage is "Cast" regardless if it is being used once or multiple times.
Props for using the original KaelThas Voicelines
Video was solid thank you. Could have gone and got the correct stat images for the legendary items though :P
a guide for the pre quest and the whole raid including trash and bosses that was still shorter then the Sylvanas raid guides=P
0:33 lmao
Solarian debuff is best mitigated by ferrying them to 2 isolating Arcane Res Tanks that sit there and eat the debuff.
Guzu !!!
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Really glad you're pushing forward, bud. Ignore the haters.
by haters do you mean people playing better games?
@@basketyboolbboolin4792 More like losers still obsessed with WoW even though they supposedly don't like the game anymore kek
@@basketyboolbboolin4792 Why don't you spend your time playing said games instead of whining in RUclips coment sections then?
Great Video!
tempest smiths can be MC'd too, do pretty gud damage
Why was he in a such of hurry when he made this video?
I haven’t done TK in years but… that’s not Kael’s VA is it? Or has it really been that long?
Changed because Blizz an ass.
12:45 "after those 30 seconds are up, make sure you're not too high up in the air because you might fall to your death and break your legs."
I wouldnt care about my legs once i am dead, would i?
Helping the RUclips algorithm
The very first pack of trash in this instance is some of the hardest fucking trash in the history of the game
Wiping on the first pack is not encouraging 😆
You are born in the wrong time, if this was made during TBC time, you gonna get millions of views.
Nice guide ty
The trash has typically been fairly challenging on private servers, etc. But that shit is stacked and blown down on PTR. No big deal.
one thing you forgot to mention , i think , was the orbs on loot reaver , silence for 6 seconds i believe
0:34
Am dying
I quit classic but I still enjoy these vids
Very strange KT positions. Can be super hectic doing it that way and not a lot of room for error. Having capernian at the back of the room is ideal so no one can even think about messing up and getting too close from a conflag. This also allows Sanguinar to be tanked at the door where the tank can always los the fear (melee can too). If you keep the bosses clumped like this there's a lot of room for error. Also kiting Thaladred is very clanky and you lose DPS this way.
Oh man I miss these days. Our guild had macros set up for when one of got mind-controlled during the trash where we would NUKE them! We had so many laughs when one time we killed one of our team members and got an honorable kill for it. 🤣
Imagine all this info , and my guild just stack up and train the bosses with hero and food comsumables
First trash group more difficult than past 2 WoW Retail expansions
Also forgot to mention that al’ar’s rebirth will knock you to the farthest ends of the room.
On the PTR she would always land at that first spot, then move to the next spot but COUNTERCLOCK wise. Not sure if it was a bug.
New raids out today but no guide videos. I won't know what to do!
"I can't say these elf names" ..Kael'thas literally says them in an intro before you fight each one
looks like A'lar is the pre-nerfed version where theres 6 platforms instead of 4 means youll need 6 tanks i thiink
or abuse hunter pets and shadowfiends when landing (that they attack the boss and prevent the cast of flame buffet for a few seconds while the tank is running)
-then you need 2 tanks - or maybe 3 with 2 platforms each
go fury warriors, pump here
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Chadgar: "yeEEee"
The legendary weapon details you threw up for the Kael'thas fight are the retail ones, they're useless for classic.
Stats are different, effects are the same. The effects are what you need to plan for in the raid
"Don't be too high up cus you will fall to your death and break your legs"...really? the legs? had me spit out my coffe..
sooo... i find this weird.... i checked other guides aswell, and some guides say you should spread out on the meteor, and other say you need the whole raid to stack up on meteor to split the damage caused by it....any intell on that ?
You should have used real stats for the legendary weapons
Is Alar always done in clockwise? I've seen it counterclockwise my friend on PTR.
didnt mention the Sentinel charges after overcharge aoe damage so a big double hit for melee, been dead every week to it if i dont run out for arcane aoe :/
Do you still need to do attunement for this?
God I am not a fan of the new Kael Voice lines
They are terrible. What a disgrace to Quinton Flynn and to the character of Kael'thas. Especially in light of recent shitstorm at blizzard
@@sacrosby heard he was cleared of it. Couldn’t they add his lines back in? It feel weird.
@@brandoncastellano1858 right? They won't though. They jumped the gun because "virtue signaling" even though a bunch of them there were guilty of being creeps themselves
@@sacrosby was anyone even asking for a change of VA? If not then I feel like people don’t actually are.
@@brandoncastellano1858 no it was just blizzard trying to disassociate with someone who came under fire for accusations that turned out to be false. The whole thing just seemed unnecessary. Kael'thas is my favorite character in WoW and I cringe whenever I hear his new VA
Do you still need to be attuned on phase 5?
tk trash: -"wellcome to hell"
Pls tell me astromancer is the prenerf version. That shit was brutal and too rng based...
Can a prot warrior tanking Kael'thas use Spell Deflection on Pyroblast? Would be funny.
Kinda doubt it. Can't even reflect Shade of Aran's spells.
Where is the black temple one of this :(
Wheres the rest of these? especially the WotlK ones?
Some fire res gear for tankin the ads on Al'ar, yah or nah?
No
Is Platinum WoW kind done with TBC? Like you sound litterly like I feel when playing TBC, unmotivated and soulless. Nothing against you man, I still think the video is well done and love your content in general, just feels like the TBC Dungeon Dives are forced Guide videos, while the classic guides feeled like fun and cool guides you would watch not for the informations but the entertainment.
So-lare-ee-an
Did they actually replace Kael's voice in the PTR? Would be yet another change that ruins the Classic experience..
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He quit wow along with most people has blizzard is such a shit company with shit products.
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good job on boss skills onece more BUT on Kael Thas i highly disagree
killing Astromancer there? just md it to the back of the room to the warlock and no one can even get close bad tanking spot and not needed at all u can decide if u kill her last on p3 or if u kill her 2nd but that is like whatever since the warlock is in fire res gear anyway with assigned healer...
see my previous comment and kindly revert why u choose to do it this way still THUMB UP for ur video afterall
On private servers Astromancer used bomb spell, not some arcane damage increase
Official servers are Private servers.
retail legendary tooltips yeesh
PhoneIX new phone xD
You should really take this down and reupload it if your Alar strategy has so many errors
It's 'Cast' not 'Casted'.
flame buffet