@@miniweeddeerz1820 For 1000$ less than the w3175x, you can get the 3970X, and you will get the same performance, making the w3175x a waste of money too.
@@DistractedFace that highly depends on the workload and how much money you are willing to spend. the w3175x can definitely beat the 3970x in blender if you are willing to make it.
The audio is always so even-leveled from episode to episode. A lot of my favorite guitar channels could learn a thing or two from these Harvard on Vox fellas.
I have this running at 3.8GHz (~1,33V through offset and LLC adjustments). I agree it's not the best gaming CPU, but I think it's a good overall performer, and it shreds when you need to get work done (I host servers and use Handbrake on my machine). I am happy with the purchase, and while I could've gotten a 7700K and OC it to the moon, I think my 1700 will last me a few more years considering the recent trend of software that takes advantage of high core count processors.
Ryzen 1700 still amazing in performance, you can still extraxt more performance by overclocking the flare x ram to 3466mhz cl14 timings or 3333mhz cl14
@@warcrabcyber9908 My opinion is that it delivers acceptable gaming performance right now (and probably really good performance when 8 cores become the norm) and stellar performance for rendering, compute, and other work.
The 1700 will age better than the 7700k. Ironically enough the 1700 will only get better with time as more and more games are starting to prioritise cores and threads over pure clockspeed, so the 1700's pretty mediocre clockspeed will matter less and less.
@@Joker-no1fz not everyone uses their PC entirely for gaming... This is something I've noticed for a while now, that PC gamers have this belief that the only thing a PC is used for is gaming, that everyone else, like them, only uses a PC for gaming, and that the only criterion by which to judge the merit of a CPU is FPS, and that, in spite of the fact that gaming is nowhere close to having the largest T.A.M. in the x86 space, AMD (and to a lesser extent Intel) should make FPS their sole priority concerning CPU performance and development
@@post-leftluddite true lol I bought 3700X mainly for work, and I cannot complain when it's slower than intel 9700k by 7 to 10%, my games played great on 144fps, while it beat the hell out of that 9700k in everything else lol
Great Channel, my favourite by far. I am keen to see you guys retest the Zen 2 threadrippers. You guys never elaborated on the fact that in your graphs, they took the lead in gaming with some games. You were the only reviewers that found that.
Thank for the revisit ! I've seen in the old data you show that you have some for the 5960x, would it be possible to do a revisit of this part, since it was the first i7 with 8core16threads, metric that was way overkill back then, but has became mainstream today. I'd be really interested to see how it compare to the modern 8core part !
I second that request, I would be very interested in seeing how the 5960x fairs today, stock and overclocked if possible. And I would even be interested in seeing how its six core brethren the 5930k fairs as well. So yes, absolutely, I would love to see the 5960x CPU revisited, and the 5930k if possible.
@@RinoAP Thay could revisit it in two years as well, but I am interested in seeing how they stack up now. Steve last did a follow up on them quite a few years ago (before even spectre/meltdown). So I would like to see how they are doing now in todays games and apps, not games and apps from two years from now only. I don't mind another check up in 2 years though, but I am still interested in seeing how they stack up with todays software.
@@EYESCREAM0 I upgraded from one to an 3700x, and I still have it now. It is okay-ish, really inconsistent when not overclocked to the max. And once overclocked it is very inconsistent with frame times, it is not a great experience in newer demanding games anymore. It will get you by if you own one, but it is not a purchase that anyone should consider now. But I don't mind Steve doing a revisit of it either, he last did one 2 years ago with an 1080ti when the 8700k launched. Just don't expect miracles. But here is Gamers Nexus "10 gens of Intel CPUs Compared Benchmarks" video, you will find an 2600k (stock and overclocked) in it. ruclips.net/video/KPWEdbfJ0oE/видео.html Those results are pretty much the best you can get out of it, and it is a major bottleneck nowadays, I am glad I upgraded. But if you pair a lower end GPU such as the 1060 (maybe 1070?) with it you should be fine, as long as you overclock the snot out of it. But more powerful GPUs will quickly find its limitations. But it is almost 10 years old now, so that is to be expected. And you absolutely must disable spectre/meltdown patches on it as well, to get back as much performance as you can. Go into your C:\Windows\System32 folder and find a file called "mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll", then take ownership of the file and rename it to something else (add a 1 to the name). Reboot your PC afterwards and download an app called "inspectre", use it to disable meltdown and double check that the spectre button is disabled (that means renaming the .dll worked). Reboot again and go online to find all the commands on Microsofts websites to disable all the other mitigations such as mds/zombieload and whatever else is applicable now. You will gain a lot more performance when done. Or go to Tech Yes City channel and you will find info on how to do a lot of what I just told you, but not for all of it. But an upgrade is in order if want to stay above 60 FPS at all times in the most demanding games nowadays, to avoid all stutters or FPS drops in every game and circumstance (at least most of the time). For all the stick that Intel gets for lack of new IPC gains, the IPC increase from 2nd/3rd gen Core to skylake/kabylake is actually quite decent. And the faster RAM speeds on the newer platforms also helps a ton, not to mention they also lose less performance with spectre/meltdown mitigations compared to the old parts. And I am interested in the 5960x/5960k BMs to see how they do after spectre/meltdown and how well they compare in todays software and games vs other CPUs nowadays.
I will never forget upgrading from i5 3570K to R7 1700 after being told by Intel fanboys that the FPS would suck and it would terrible at gaming, and being blown away by having more than twice the FPS in BF1 and zero stuttering ever, super smooth consistent experience. Still using the same motherboard on a 3700X today, going strong.
It wasn't wrong advice, you can clearly see the 7700K performing better in almost all games. If you had the 7700k, you probably wouldn't need to upgrade to a 3700X for gaming.
@@aaymanbd It was absolutely wrong because the narrative was that the 1700 sucked for games, which it clearly didn't, and besides the 1% lows are better on the 1700. And I use my computer for more than just gaming, the 1700 was a great choice and I'd buy it again over the 7700K any day of the week.
@@TheSilviu8x The 7700k is better in games, but worse in almost everything else. Give me a 8 core/16 thread good general purpose cpu over a "1 trick gaming pony" cpu any day!
I'm still running my 1700x@3.9 and a GTX1080Ti. I'm happy enough for now. I've wasted thousands chasing small percentage gain's for 20 year's. I'll wait for Ryzen 4th generation and see how good it is.
Buying used i7 7700k wasnt so bad idea, i sold it with motherboard after 7 months and buy complitly new B450 motherboard and new r7 2700x for that money, and i was ewen left with 25$ to celebrate!
buying a used 5775c was the best thing i ever did. 100 bucks and it outperforms many cpus much newer because of its lightning fast L4 cache. I still say that dropping that feature on skylake is why karma bit intel in the ass.
Over this past weekend I went from a 6600k to a 6700k and between what I payed for the i7 and what I sold my i5 for I was out of pocket just under $50. I think that paired with my 2060 should hold me over for a little while longer.
My Ryzen 7 1700 is still doing great. I got quite lucky with the silicon lottery (4.0ghz at 1.287v), It's really giving me great results with a Vega 56 and some 1080p 144Hz Freesync monitor.
I have an 1600 and gtx 1080 ti and I have to say, while theres probably a bottleneck in most games, I still have consistent 100 fps in 1440p on almost everything. Well, obviously higher resolution is more GPU heavy, but this just shows how a cpu like 1600 can be very good for gaming even today. I am going to upgrade to a Ryzen 7 4700 though, but Its really not necessary. My 1600 is still kicking and Its only just a 6 core.
@@MMOplayeerr Same here. My 1600 keeps up with my gtx 1070 rather nicely. Planning on upgrading to a R9 3900x in a few years (same Mobo) and a newer GPU but right now? No need really.
Do you guys have 300 series motherboards? If thats the case then you cant upgrade to Ryzen 4000. 3000 is the end of the line for B350/X370. You should absolutely upgrade to 3000 though, will give you a very very nice fps bump, especially upping the lows
Your channel was the reason i upgraded! Went from a 3570K/GTX680 to a 1700/GTX1070 and could not be happier! Thank you for uploading content updates, I knew already but it's great to have the peace of mind knowing I am very well off in 2020 and won't be needing an upgrade for the foreseeable future. I have a moderate overclock of 3.6GHz on a Wraith Prism (temps between 35c idle - 55c load)and it works a charm - a budget stream machine for minimal cost. Keep it up Steve + Tim!
the ryzen 7 1700 is great. got it with a 1060 6gb back when it came out. recently upgraded to a 1080 ti and over clocked my ryzen 7 1700 3.8ghz and its running great. no bottleneck or anything. I think im good and dont need to upgrade for at least another 4 years or so.
Brought R7 1700 at launch and a B350 MOBO. been running it @3.79GHz @1.245V all this time. I can even have 2 games running at the same time with over 10 tabs of RUclips in a browser, and various monitoring software and other applications running all at same time.....never misses a beat. No stutters no obvious lag. When I open a new link to a you tube it opens virtually instanteaniously . I do not care if I may not get that extra 20FPS becuase the FPS I do get is for me enough. Waiting for the Zen2 CPU's on the seconhand market for an upgrade. Seeing how things have panned out these last 3 1/2 years I now know i made the wisest choice i could at that time. ( FYI 2 games i was running at same time was City skylines and either WOT or Mass effect series). Simply Amazing would like to see I7700K do same and see how that works out for that CPU............. :-D
Very happy owner of a Ryzen 7 1700 here - I opted to purchase one over the i7-7700K based on your review over three years ago (late March '17) and I have to say I'm very happy with your recommendation! I've typically had it mildly overclocked to 3.8 GHz for most of that time. Paired with a Radeon R9 290X and playing games on a 1080p/75Hz monitor, it's been an excellent combination. I'm very pleased with how the platform has evolved over the last three years, and it still does plenty enough for my needs. I must say, I was very happy getting damn close to Broadwell-E HEDT performance for much, much less. I game on this system, I occasionally live stream my gameplay, I also perform some video editing on clips and recordings. I'm also a programmer, so there's often some VMs, code compiling, and some game development going on. It's really a jack of all trades system. The two major issues I've had with the platform (being an early adopter): - RAM support; my chip has an awful IMC and it hates my Hynix AFR RAM kit (Corsair Vengeance CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) so I'm stuck running it at 2666 MT/s CL16. Anything higher causes crashes and blue screens. - My chip suffers from the segfault bug due to being an early production run model. I could potentially still get this replaced under Australian consumer law as it's a major manufacturing fault, and I am starting to dip my toes further into Linux development... The prospect of a potential Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 9 3900X upgrade sometime in the future is a tantalising one. While most users won't be in a position to have the desire to upgrade their CPU within the same platform, AM4 has somewhat outdone my expectations in the sense that I can upgrade to a much faster twelve or even sixteen core processor without changing anything else. Zen 3 support would have been amazing, and while some circles are suggesting ASUS will still try to continue to support the ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO, I'm not going to hold my breath.
HardwareUnboxed....just beacuse you're one of the few if not the only reviewer who re test old hardware with modern software/hardware, I'm subscribed now
Having owned both of these processors (well 1700X), and admitted the 1700X only for about a week as it felt sluggish compared to my at the time 6700k so sold it on and took the motherboard back, I still have the 7700K in my main gaming rig. Having watched this, I can understand why Intel want to push the real world performance in their marketing, my main focus is gaming and out of all the bench marks in this video I only use Photoshop and dabble with After Effects which the 7700K beats the Ryzen part, I’m pretty sure I represent the masses in this respect, so glad I stuck with the 7700K. I paid £120 for it from a friend and coupled with a GTX 1070 and a Asus Prime Z270 - A from fleabay which was £50 and literally bran new and still haven’t had to overclock. For some reason Z270 motherboards were dirt cheap at that time. I’ve just given the GTX 1070 to my son as he’s now started to ditch the Xbox and play PC so in the market for a 2070 super (trying to wait for 3000 series) so I’ll see how it fairs up before upgrading.
I bought a 1700 at full price when it first came out, and I'm still very happy with it. I've got it OCed to 4 GHz at 1.34v and it does everything I ask it to. I'll be keeping this puppy for a few years longer for sure. It was a great investment.
I have an i7 7700k, and for games that can fully use its cores, usually DX12 or Vulkan, it never goes bellow 60 fps if my GPU can handle it. I figured I'd only replace it after 5-7 years, and that's probably what's gonna happen. So it may not have been the best option that year, we all know why, but it was still a solid investment.
I have a 7700k and it's still the best investment of that year. Many will replace their 1700s long before we replace our 7700ks and that will be because of gaming performance. This cpu strictly for gaming will last another 5 to 7 years I reckon especially at higher resolutions.
Excellent "revisit" Steve!👍👍 I'm still rockin' my beloved 1700X paired with a lightning fast 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD, RTX 2060, and 32GB RAM on an MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon... M/B. My rig performs nicely in 1440p gaming and 8c/16t is still a freakin' beast rendering and encoding. My next CPU will definitely be an R9 3900X when prices drop a bit more as I luv them cores! Until then, the 1700X does everything well so I can wait. 😁
I purchased a 1700 on release and a GTX 1080 via ebay deals. Even now the price I paid is decent and cpu / gpu improvements in the newer models at the same price point are negligible. I don't think I'll be upgrading anytime soon.
Can i say as well, it is really nice to see "old" CPUs being in a benchmark result. Many other reviewers just compare to the previous generation, but how many people upgrade that quickly? I am sure some do every year but most of use proabaly do every 4/5 years or so.
Idk why I like these types of videos so much. I dont think ill ever get tired of watching comparison videos. Part of it has to do with seeing how far tech has come along.
Got my 1700x on heavy discount in 2018 for $175 and I'm still very happy with the purchase. Especially considering 7700k's still sell secondhand for $250+. It's been stable 4ghz the whole time I've owned it to boot.
Thanks for the comparison! I bought a Ryzen 7 1700 used for a really good price. Mostly for productive stuff and a bit of gaming. I believe it will be a decent CPU for the next 2-3 years.
Oh man, I finally upgraded from a Phenom II to a Ryzen 3600. What a bloody difference! The Phenom got better in the middle years when software started to use more cores but the last two years a steady decline in usability even in browsing and watching videos became very visible to me. First I bought a used RX480 and f.e. in Metro Last Light right at the beginning of the story inside the base the FPS suddenly dropped to 17 (1080P, high settings) Then I got the Ryzen and wow what a difference. Same place: 130-170 FPS. No lag, no low FPS. Even in the Superposition benchmark my old Phenom couldn't deliver the data fast enough - the gfx card got stalled. And the power consumption: so impressively low. Unbelievable. Undervolted RX480 + standard Ryzen 3600. It is unbelievable. I feel like in the olden days when I got my K6-200. That was a beast too :D
I really appreciate this. Not only because as a R7 1700 owner it confirms my current plans for the build of a second gaming focused machine. But also shows that my current machine is still a solid option for production workloads. Cheers guys!
You should have included OC results for the 7700k as well. Gamersnexus' gaming benchmarks show that their 7700k running at 5,1Ghz is just 17% slower than the 10900K
@@magicaces13 Yeah, i mean the 3300x benchmarks also showed this. But thats about to change with next gen consoles so idk how much value id put on that right now.
Upgraded from a 1700 (3.95Ghz) to 3700X, still rocking the same X370 Taichi from Launch Day. This thing is a BEAST. The 1700 was a monster at 4Ghz but the 3700X improves on it in every way possible.
I had the 1700 run at 4ghz 24/7 with 1.32v. A beast of a chip! I loved it but changed it for a 3800x. But damn, I miss that cpu, was truly amazing! And I had ram at 3400 cl14 with quite aggressive subtimings. :D
I got mine for $150 aud last year and paired it with the B450 Tomahawk Max after seeing your review on it! I still find it awesome that I might be able to upgrade to a ryzen 4000 CPU too. That's going to be a massive bump in performance.
Why not overclock the 7700K? Thumbnail said 1700 vs 7700K but only one of them is overclocked :/ Intel has a lot of overclocking headroom, why not use it?
I was wondering this too. Since you're comparing it to 1700 vs 7700k you should have overclocked both. Regardless, love your content Steve, thanks for the hard work.
@@ArthurM1863 nice 5.1Ghz is sweet. I have mine at 4.7Ghz at the moment but could probably push it to 4.9Ghz with some tweaking. It's the best part of the Intel range especially the 7th gen. That's also 4.7Ghz all core full load.
My friend got a 7700K over a year ago. I told him to sell it and buy a Ryzen CPU. He sold the 7700K and for that price he picked up a Ryzen 7 1700X and an ASRock X370M-Pro4. He's really happy with his CPU.
I got an HP with an R7 1700 about a year ago as an anticipated replacement for my 11-year old, 6-core, Phenom II, Dell, which is still chugging along, and is still fairly usable. Hopefully it will be as long lived as the Phenom II.
I just came here as i was watching a video from march and i wanted to thank you for benchmarking war thunder, its a massively popular game that not many people benchmark. Definitely would like to see that game benchmarked going forward too:)
ditto to that! what voltage do you have ur cpu at. Mine also at 3.9 i used to have it at 1.325 but up until recently ive had to up it to 1.35 in more demanding titles.
I bought 1700x (as an early adopter for the first time) when they first came out. I do gaming on 1440p so I'm less affected by CPU differences. I'm still very satisfied with my Ryzen cpu and expect to use it for a few more years to come. I can't believe I've already had the cpu for a little over 3 years already! Wow!
great vid ....I was one of those unfortunate people who bought a 7700K just a few months before the 8700K was announced... still using it to this day at 5ghz (-200mhz avx) ...I'd love to build a ryzen 9 3950x system but got to many other things that need my cash first :(
My first Ryzen system was built around a 1700 and a 980Ti. Since I upgraded from an FX-8350, it was astonishingly good. My chip can hold a 3.8GHz OC but apparently has a flimsy memory controller, as it struggles with 3200 RAM. A BIOS update would no doubt help, since I haven't done one since mid 2018. That CPU is still in service, now with a 2070 Super in my HTPC.
3 years on my R7 1700 @ 3.8Ghz 1.28v and loving it. Have it paired with a GTX 980 Ti and a 2k monitor. Looking at a RX 5700 XT first and then after that a X570 with 3700X I need to get on the GPU first for monitor reviews since the 900 series GTX just doesn't support everything I need it to and I don't review Gsync monitors or at least as of yet xD. I also need to get on the X570 platform for storage testing as well. Wish I had your guys budget lol thanks for going over this again its data I really wanted to see but cant get to testing for yet.
Well, since I bought a Z270 board and a 7700k and if I bought a 1700 and an X370 board, I'd need to invest in a 3600 or 3300X, just to get the performance I've had for 3 years with my Intel chip, so, feeling good about it, when more cores/threads are required I'll upgrade then
The ones who bought into Ryzen probably end up paying more in the longrun just to achieve the same(or even less) level of performance. Lot of people got suckered and don't even realise it.
@@EVIL19231 except I only have to buy a CPU to upgrade...wheras Conza will have to buy a whole new platform to run his next upgrade on. the " Ryzen Craze" as you put it has more options for the consumer. Its a bizzare logic you guys use.
It's almost as if you read my mind, Steve. I've been sporting a R5 1600 since release and was teetering on the thought of upgrading to R5 3600 or Ryzen 4000 part once they drop for desktop to support a GPU upgrade. Looking forward to your reviews on those!
I upgraded from a 4th gen i7 to the 1700 when it came out. pretty much the same gaming performance and much better multi core. This year I upgraded to a 3700X while keeping the same motherboard. Couldn't be happier :)
Ok Steve. This is more just to satisfy curiosity. Fx8350 vs i7 4670k in modern titles. I want to see if AMD's 8 bad cores coupe any better than Intel's 4 of the same era today?
@@SubTract04 You can see FX-8370 vs G4560 from the video above for 16 games average. Nearly the same, so i3-8350K will crush the FX and... i7 4670k - such CPU does not exist yet, if you mean i5 4670k - it is a little slower than 8350K, so basically the same, but if you mean i7 4770k - the FX will look like a dead man walking in front of it.
Glad to see these revisits. I'm still happy that I went with the 9900k at the time, even though it looks like I overpaid for 1440p performance, future GPUs will be able to see the full potential of these CPUs in games that are GPU-bottlenecked at 1440p
I bought an Asus Crosshair VI, 32 GB DDR4 3200 and a 1700 immediately on launch. I am still running the same board and ram (upgraded now to 64GB) with a 3950x. Just can't believe how long the AM4 socket and the x370 chipset have remained relevant. I now have more than 2x the performance of the old CPU without having to spend on a new board. All I can say is going with 1st gen ryzen was totally worth it. My old 1700 now retired from the main system is doing htpc duty in a mini itx board.
The point you made with the 7700k upgrade to (or lack of) 8700k issue on the intel front is exactly the reason I haven't bought an intel setup in 20 years. Get a motherboard and CPU - 2 years later, oh, I want to upgrade... NOPE! I do a lot of upgrade and hand-me-down with friends and family. It is significantly more expensive with Intel vs AMD. Thanks for the great video!
I'm glad you included th 1600, as that's the processor that I have, with plans of upgrading to the 4700x when it gets released (ideally later this year) and seeing that the 3700x has up to like 50% more performance in some tests is good to know!
I agree on the ideal core count comment. I’ve got both a 6 core and an 8 core in my two gaming rigs and I can’t really tell any noticeable difference. 6-core definitely seems to be ideal for gaming for most people right now.
I had my first build in 2016 which used a 6700 (non K). I upgraded to a 7700K in 2017 thinking it would last for a long time. Once Ryzen hit boy was I wrong. I've been happy with the gaming performance it has given me, but when Zen 2 arrived, AMD immediately sold me on my next upgrade path. I'm still waiting to see the GPU releases around the corner as well as what AMD's socket plans are after 2020 before starting the next build, but it's been a thrill seeing how far they've come.
I’m still running the R7 1700 and paired with an RX 5700XT! Running @1440p 144hz. Can often be hard to always maintain 144hz so freesync is a life saver. New processor definitely a next buy.
For anyone curious why the overclock makes so much of a difference sometimes in core-heavy workloads, the all-core boost of the 1700 is typically 3.3GHz from what I can tell. So a 3.9GHz OC is a pretty substantial increase.
It's really interesting to see how the new 3300X has almost perfectly tied up to the performannce of the 7700K. I know it's 3 years later, a more refined architecture in a reduced node, but finally with closer clocks and a unified CCX the gaming scores are getting really competitive. Gives hope for what Zen3 might bring if AMD really makes it an 8 cores CCX with unified cache.
I'd seriously like a revisit for this processor every year. I'm sure that Adobe CC has been updated since 2020, and it'd be interesting to see if it's still this unoptimized.
i'm still using my r7 1700 as a secondary productivity based system, its running ultra efficiently, ive underclocked and undervolted and it doesnt consume more than 55watts [as reported in hwinfo] when running an all core stress, its basically set at the base clock, never runs over 45c on the wraith spire that is cooling it!
I came from a 1700, to a 3950x.... AMD has some of the best CPU’s I’ve ever used. My current 3950x is better then anything intel can currently offer me 🤔🤣😂.
I went from a 1700X to a 3600 using the exact same X370 ITX setup. Its way more stable and much quiter / cooler under load. Memory sensitivity in particular was a factor. I've got no regrets with the change, both chips are great but the 3600 is the way forward for me.
Hm it is interesting to see that you do not use the DX12 Battlefield V benchmark... rather the dx11 one. Probably because of the issues I did not follow that much but it was a really good pointer of well optimized game and that can use up to 8 threads in dx12, the API at least. Anyways, this video is why the HU rocks and it will, long term bench of any tech what is a progress in gaming and some programs. Great one!
hey Steve, would you consider in the future adding benchmarks for Adobe Animate (Flash) and ToonBoom Harmony or TVPaint, as well? Those are industry standard 2D applications used by a majority of productions and major studio, along with AE. here's a list of Flash tv series productions from wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_television_series
This content is such a gift! I have so many friends trying to upgrade their processors and this really reinforces just how relevant their ryzen 2600's still are. I've gotten a couple of them to invest in monitors instead luckily (they picked up the new monitor from Asus with 280Hz IPS panel (VG259QM), would love to see a review on it but they've been loving it so far) edit: somehow missed your review on the 27" version of the monitor I mentioned, you guys are next level - gonna go watch it now lol
What is the situation with the software/BIOS fixes? Was every fix applied to the testing configurations? Only thing we can say for sure, is that hyperthreading was not turned off for the 7700K, but that is somewhat understandable.
This is why i love ur channel the constant retesting gives us so much data points thanks for all ur hard work steve & tim
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The biggest Ryzen achievement was totally annihilated Intel HEDT platform - the biggest CPU paywall for decade.
I mean the w3175x is still good and the 3990x is a waste of money. Depends on your price point.
@@miniweeddeerz1820 For 1000$ less than the w3175x, you can get the 3970X, and you will get the same performance, making the w3175x a waste of money too.
@@miniweeddeerz1820 Oof
@@DistractedFace that highly depends on the workload and how much money you are willing to spend. the w3175x can definitely beat the 3970x in blender if you are willing to make it.
@@miniweeddeerz1820 at that point then just buy TRX 3990WX because you're willing to spend the amount of money, no?
The audio is always so even-leveled from episode to episode. A lot of my favorite guitar channels could learn a thing or two from these Harvard on Vox fellas.
17:47 Steve flexing on us because of his cristal ball-level predictions on how things would have gone... lol
I have this running at 3.8GHz (~1,33V through offset and LLC adjustments). I agree it's not the best gaming CPU, but I think it's a good overall performer, and it shreds when you need to get work done (I host servers and use Handbrake on my machine). I am happy with the purchase, and while I could've gotten a 7700K and OC it to the moon, I think my 1700 will last me a few more years considering the recent trend of software that takes advantage of high core count processors.
With the added benefit of not being on a completely dead socket. That's also very nice.
@@fVNzO Totally right. The idea of a 4600 or 4700 processor is cool.
Ryzen 1700 still amazing in performance, you can still extraxt more performance by overclocking the flare x ram to 3466mhz cl14 timings or 3333mhz cl14
@@warcrabcyber9908 My opinion is that it delivers acceptable gaming performance right now (and probably really good performance when 8 cores become the norm) and stellar performance for rendering, compute, and other work.
The 1700 will age better than the 7700k. Ironically enough the 1700 will only get better with time as more and more games are starting to prioritise cores and threads over pure clockspeed, so the 1700's pretty mediocre clockspeed will matter less and less.
Hard to imagine that a 4 core was considered flag ship in 2017.
oh how far we have come in 3 years!
Yea no competition will do that ;)
Thanks Intel...
Lets forget Intel had high end DESKTOP cpus with 6 cores since 2011.
@@wh173 for 700 usd lol
i got a phenom ii x6 1100t in 2010 and finally upgraded to an r7 1700 in may 2017. i'm sure thing'll last me seven years too.
Depends on what you're doing
if you want high refresh on aaa games you will need a better cpu.
@@Joker-no1fz not everyone uses their PC entirely for gaming... This is something I've noticed for a while now, that PC gamers have this belief that the only thing a PC is used for is gaming, that everyone else, like them, only uses a PC for gaming, and that the only criterion by which to judge the merit of a CPU is FPS, and that, in spite of the fact that gaming is nowhere close to having the largest T.A.M. in the x86 space, AMD (and to a lesser extent Intel) should make FPS their sole priority concerning CPU performance and development
@@post-leftluddite true lol
I bought 3700X mainly for work, and I cannot complain when it's slower than intel 9700k by 7 to 10%, my games played great on 144fps, while it beat the hell out of that 9700k in everything else lol
@ExcZist's Studio if you upgraded the boost to smoothness would be huge. Benchmarks don't show the gains.
My Ryzen 5 1600x still rocks
facepalm
My buddy has it and is still a beast!
I still have a r5 1400 oc to 4.1 with a rx 480 still a good machine
Taurus
Why the facepalm?
@@hateoverlove1 good chip you got there. Mine will only do 3.8 @ 1.4V
Great Channel, my favourite by far. I am keen to see you guys retest the Zen 2 threadrippers. You guys never elaborated on the fact that in your graphs, they took the lead in gaming with some games. You were the only reviewers that found that.
Thank for the revisit !
I've seen in the old data you show that you have some for the 5960x, would it be possible to do a revisit of this part, since it was the first i7 with 8core16threads, metric that was way overkill back then, but has became mainstream today. I'd be really interested to see how it compare to the modern 8core part !
I second that request, I would be very interested in seeing how the 5960x fairs today, stock and overclocked if possible. And I would even be interested in seeing how its six core brethren the 5930k fairs as well.
So yes, absolutely, I would love to see the 5960x CPU revisited, and the 5930k if possible.
Revisit it on the next 2 years vs 5960x (threadreaper 😏)
@@RinoAP Thay could revisit it in two years as well, but I am interested in seeing how they stack up now. Steve last did a follow up on them quite a few years ago (before even spectre/meltdown).
So I would like to see how they are doing now in todays games and apps, not games and apps from two years from now only. I don't mind another check up in 2 years though, but I am still interested in seeing how they stack up with todays software.
As 4/8 CPU's still don't look dead for gaming (3300X for example), I would love to see an overclocked 2600K.
@@EYESCREAM0 I upgraded from one to an 3700x, and I still have it now. It is okay-ish, really inconsistent when not overclocked to the max. And once overclocked it is very inconsistent with frame times, it is not a great experience in newer demanding games anymore. It will get you by if you own one, but it is not a purchase that anyone should consider now. But I don't mind Steve doing a revisit of it either, he last did one 2 years ago with an 1080ti when the 8700k launched. Just don't expect miracles.
But here is Gamers Nexus "10 gens of Intel CPUs Compared Benchmarks" video, you will find an 2600k (stock and overclocked) in it.
ruclips.net/video/KPWEdbfJ0oE/видео.html
Those results are pretty much the best you can get out of it, and it is a major bottleneck nowadays, I am glad I upgraded. But if you pair a lower end GPU such as the 1060 (maybe 1070?) with it you should be fine, as long as you overclock the snot out of it. But more powerful GPUs will quickly find its limitations. But it is almost 10 years old now, so that is to be expected.
And you absolutely must disable spectre/meltdown patches on it as well, to get back as much performance as you can. Go into your C:\Windows\System32 folder and find a file called "mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll", then take ownership of the file and rename it to something else (add a 1 to the name). Reboot your PC afterwards and download an app called "inspectre", use it to disable meltdown and double check that the spectre button is disabled (that means renaming the .dll worked).
Reboot again and go online to find all the commands on Microsofts websites to disable all the other mitigations such as mds/zombieload and whatever else is applicable now. You will gain a lot more performance when done. Or go to Tech Yes City channel and you will find info on how to do a lot of what I just told you, but not for all of it.
But an upgrade is in order if want to stay above 60 FPS at all times in the most demanding games nowadays, to avoid all stutters or FPS drops in every game and circumstance (at least most of the time). For all the stick that Intel gets for lack of new IPC gains, the IPC increase from 2nd/3rd gen Core to skylake/kabylake is actually quite decent. And the faster RAM speeds on the newer platforms also helps a ton, not to mention they also lose less performance with spectre/meltdown mitigations compared to the old parts.
And I am interested in the 5960x/5960k BMs to see how they do after spectre/meltdown and how well they compare in todays software and games vs other CPUs nowadays.
Still own it, running like a champ at 3.85ghz
50 MHz, nice, extracting every last bit of performance.
@@alexandruconstantin5921 what do you mean? stock is 3ghz with some cores boosting at 3.7ghz, i got all core boost 3.85ghz :D
Stock cooler?
Grummle what voltage and cooler?
@@RavenGaminghypex wraith max 1.344v
I will never forget upgrading from i5 3570K to R7 1700 after being told by Intel fanboys that the FPS would suck and it would terrible at gaming, and being blown away by having more than twice the FPS in BF1 and zero stuttering ever, super smooth consistent experience.
Still using the same motherboard on a 3700X today, going strong.
It wasn't wrong advice, you can clearly see the 7700K performing better in almost all games. If you had the 7700k, you probably wouldn't need to upgrade to a 3700X for gaming.
7700k is no joke, the joke will start with the 4000 series, maybe.
@@aaymanbd It was absolutely wrong because the narrative was that the 1700 sucked for games, which it clearly didn't, and besides the 1% lows are better on the 1700. And I use my computer for more than just gaming, the 1700 was a great choice and I'd buy it again over the 7700K any day of the week.
@@TheSilviu8x The 7700k is better in games, but worse in almost everything else. Give me a 8 core/16 thread good general purpose cpu over a "1 trick gaming pony" cpu any day!
@@Deliverygirl There is barely a difference in 1% lows, stop continuing this myth. Its literally covered in the video you are replying to.
YESSSSS Thank you Steve. Can we have more videos like this? E.g 'revisiting Ryzen 5 1400' or something
Really appreciate these type of videos. Helps remind me that I don't need a new cpu lol
I'm still running my 1700x@3.9 and a GTX1080Ti. I'm happy enough for now. I've wasted thousands chasing small percentage gain's for 20 year's.
I'll wait for Ryzen 4th generation and see how good it is.
Buying used i7 7700k wasnt so bad idea, i sold it with motherboard after 7 months and buy complitly new B450 motherboard and new r7 2700x for that money, and i was ewen left with 25$ to celebrate!
buying a used 5775c was the best thing i ever did. 100 bucks and it outperforms many cpus much newer because of its lightning fast L4 cache. I still say that dropping that feature on skylake is why karma bit intel in the ass.
Over this past weekend I went from a 6600k to a 6700k and between what I payed for the i7 and what I sold my i5 for I was out of pocket just under $50. I think that paired with my 2060 should hold me over for a little while longer.
My Ryzen 7 1700 is still doing great. I got quite lucky with the silicon lottery (4.0ghz at 1.287v),
It's really giving me great results with a Vega 56 and some 1080p 144Hz Freesync monitor.
very lucky you are mine needs more even at 3.9 :(
I'm still rocking my 1700 and was pleasantly surprised to see this video. Well done!
*Me with my Ryzen 5 1600* "LOOK GARY! THERE I AM IN THE GRAPH!"
Feel the same with my R5 3600 :)
Ahh, 2017. Back when Intel fanboys still mock and scoff at Ryzen. "Who need cores, look at our gigahertz!"
Remember when a 10 core CPU was 1700 dollars in 2016?
And then AMD released the 3300x and showed we still dont need many cores. :)
Andrew N yeah for gaming. Go render with those 4 cores. No thanks.
@@AndrewTSq that may change when the consoles now have 8 cores too ;)
@@TRD_2zz PS4 and Xbox One had 8 cores back in 2014.
im still rocking a 1700, does my needs, no need to upgrade yet, though does suffer in games with my vega nitro 64
In which resolution? I have an vega 74 strix and it's still awesome. 1440p 144hz for says, except in modern games but I don't mind playing at medium
I have an 1600 and gtx 1080 ti and I have to say, while theres probably a bottleneck in most games, I still have consistent 100 fps in 1440p on almost everything. Well, obviously higher resolution is more GPU heavy, but this just shows how a cpu like 1600 can be very good for gaming even today. I am going to upgrade to a Ryzen 7 4700 though, but Its really not necessary. My 1600 is still kicking and Its only just a 6 core.
@@MMOplayeerr Same here. My 1600 keeps up with my gtx 1070 rather nicely. Planning on upgrading to a R9 3900x in a few years (same Mobo) and a newer GPU but right now? No need really.
If it suffers in games, how does it do your needs?
Do you guys have 300 series motherboards? If thats the case then you cant upgrade to Ryzen 4000. 3000 is the end of the line for B350/X370.
You should absolutely upgrade to 3000 though, will give you a very very nice fps bump, especially upping the lows
still rocking 1600 here
Your channel was the reason i upgraded! Went from a 3570K/GTX680 to a 1700/GTX1070 and could not be happier! Thank you for uploading content updates, I knew already but it's great to have the peace of mind knowing I am very well off in 2020 and won't be needing an upgrade for the foreseeable future. I have a moderate overclock of 3.6GHz on a Wraith Prism (temps between 35c idle - 55c load)and it works a charm - a budget stream machine for minimal cost. Keep it up Steve + Tim!
the ryzen 7 1700 is great. got it with a 1060 6gb back when it came out. recently upgraded to a 1080 ti and over clocked my ryzen 7 1700 3.8ghz and its running great. no bottleneck or anything. I think im good and dont need to upgrade for at least another 4 years or so.
Brought R7 1700 at launch and a B350 MOBO. been running it @3.79GHz @1.245V all this time. I can even have 2 games running at the same time with over 10 tabs of RUclips in a browser, and various monitoring software and other applications running all at same time.....never misses a beat. No stutters no obvious lag. When I open a new link to a you tube it opens virtually instanteaniously . I do not care if I may not get that extra 20FPS becuase the FPS I do get is for me enough. Waiting for the Zen2 CPU's on the seconhand market for an upgrade. Seeing how things have panned out these last 3 1/2 years I now know i made the wisest choice i could at that time. ( FYI 2 games i was running at same time was City skylines and either WOT or Mass effect series). Simply Amazing would like to see I7700K do same and see how that works out for that CPU............. :-D
Very happy owner of a Ryzen 7 1700 here - I opted to purchase one over the i7-7700K based on your review over three years ago (late March '17) and I have to say I'm very happy with your recommendation! I've typically had it mildly overclocked to 3.8 GHz for most of that time. Paired with a Radeon R9 290X and playing games on a 1080p/75Hz monitor, it's been an excellent combination. I'm very pleased with how the platform has evolved over the last three years, and it still does plenty enough for my needs. I must say, I was very happy getting damn close to Broadwell-E HEDT performance for much, much less.
I game on this system, I occasionally live stream my gameplay, I also perform some video editing on clips and recordings. I'm also a programmer, so there's often some VMs, code compiling, and some game development going on. It's really a jack of all trades system.
The two major issues I've had with the platform (being an early adopter):
- RAM support; my chip has an awful IMC and it hates my Hynix AFR RAM kit (Corsair Vengeance CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) so I'm stuck running it at 2666 MT/s CL16. Anything higher causes crashes and blue screens.
- My chip suffers from the segfault bug due to being an early production run model. I could potentially still get this replaced under Australian consumer law as it's a major manufacturing fault, and I am starting to dip my toes further into Linux development...
The prospect of a potential Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 9 3900X upgrade sometime in the future is a tantalising one. While most users won't be in a position to have the desire to upgrade their CPU within the same platform, AM4 has somewhat outdone my expectations in the sense that I can upgrade to a much faster twelve or even sixteen core processor without changing anything else. Zen 3 support would have been amazing, and while some circles are suggesting ASUS will still try to continue to support the ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO, I'm not going to hold my breath.
Try adding voltage to the ram and soc
HardwareUnboxed....just beacuse you're one of the few if not the only reviewer who re test old hardware with modern software/hardware, I'm subscribed now
This was my first big boy CPU. Ended up giving it to a friend when I upgraded, and it's still going strong today! Great CPU.
Having owned both of these processors (well 1700X), and admitted the 1700X only for about a week as it felt sluggish compared to my at the time 6700k so sold it on and took the motherboard back, I still have the 7700K in my main gaming rig. Having watched this, I can understand why Intel want to push the real world performance in their marketing, my main focus is gaming and out of all the bench marks in this video I only use Photoshop and dabble with After Effects which the 7700K beats the Ryzen part, I’m pretty sure I represent the masses in this respect, so glad I stuck with the 7700K. I paid £120 for it from a friend and coupled with a GTX 1070 and a Asus Prime Z270 - A from fleabay which was £50 and literally bran new and still haven’t had to overclock. For some reason Z270 motherboards were dirt cheap at that time. I’ve just given the GTX 1070 to my son as he’s now started to ditch the Xbox and play PC so in the market for a 2070 super (trying to wait for 3000 series) so I’ll see how it fairs up before upgrading.
I bought a 1700 at full price when it first came out, and I'm still very happy with it. I've got it OCed to 4 GHz at 1.34v and it does everything I ask it to. I'll be keeping this puppy for a few years longer for sure. It was a great investment.
I have an i7 7700k, and for games that can fully use its cores, usually DX12 or Vulkan, it never goes bellow 60 fps if my GPU can handle it. I figured I'd only replace it after 5-7 years, and that's probably what's gonna happen. So it may not have been the best option that year, we all know why, but it was still a solid investment.
I have a 7700k and it's still the best investment of that year. Many will replace their 1700s long before we replace our 7700ks and that will be because of gaming performance. This cpu strictly for gaming will last another 5 to 7 years I reckon especially at higher resolutions.
Same
Excellent "revisit" Steve!👍👍 I'm still rockin' my beloved 1700X paired with a lightning fast 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD, RTX 2060, and 32GB RAM on an MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon... M/B. My rig performs nicely in 1440p gaming and 8c/16t is still a freakin' beast rendering and encoding. My next CPU will definitely be an R9 3900X when prices drop a bit more as I luv them cores! Until then, the 1700X does everything well so I can wait. 😁
How was the processor flying in the air? 2:48
1700 is still excellent for just about everything. A fine product in current year.
I purchased a 1700 on release and a GTX 1080 via ebay deals. Even now the price I paid is decent and cpu / gpu improvements in the newer models at the same price point are negligible. I don't think I'll be upgrading anytime soon.
Can i say as well, it is really nice to see "old" CPUs being in a benchmark result. Many other reviewers just compare to the previous generation, but how many people upgrade that quickly? I am sure some do every year but most of use proabaly do every 4/5 years or so.
As 4/8 CPU's still don't look dead for gaming (3300X for example), I would love to see an overclocked 2600K here and there.
This I just got a 2700k the other week and it rips at 4.8 easy @1.3
Idk why I like these types of videos so much. I dont think ill ever get tired of watching comparison videos. Part of it has to do with seeing how far tech has come along.
Got my 1700x on heavy discount in 2018 for $175 and I'm still very happy with the purchase. Especially considering 7700k's still sell secondhand for $250+. It's been stable 4ghz the whole time I've owned it to boot.
Thanks for the comparison! I bought a Ryzen 7 1700 used for a really good price. Mostly for productive stuff and a bit of gaming. I believe it will be a decent CPU for the next 2-3 years.
Oh man, I finally upgraded from a Phenom II to a Ryzen 3600.
What a bloody difference!
The Phenom got better in the middle years when software started to use more cores but the last two years a steady decline in usability even in browsing and watching videos became very visible to me.
First I bought a used RX480 and f.e. in Metro Last Light right at the beginning of the story inside the base the FPS suddenly dropped to 17 (1080P, high settings)
Then I got the Ryzen and wow what a difference. Same place: 130-170 FPS. No lag, no low FPS.
Even in the Superposition benchmark my old Phenom couldn't deliver the data fast enough - the gfx card got stalled.
And the power consumption: so impressively low. Unbelievable.
Undervolted RX480 + standard Ryzen 3600. It is unbelievable.
I feel like in the olden days when I got my K6-200. That was a beast too :D
Best part of the day is my early afternoon coffee with a Hardware Unboxed video. Thanks for the work/content. :)
I really appreciate this. Not only because as a R7 1700 owner it confirms my current plans for the build of a second gaming focused machine. But also shows that my current machine is still a solid option for production workloads.
Cheers guys!
Wait, it's been 3 YEARSSS!!!
Woah woah woah, time! Slow down a bit man!
You should have included OC results for the 7700k as well. Gamersnexus' gaming benchmarks show that their 7700k running at 5,1Ghz is just 17% slower than the 10900K
And that's 8 threads vs 20 threads! Just shows more cores or threads doesn't always translate to better gaming scores yet.
@@magicaces13 Yeah, i mean the 3300x benchmarks also showed this.
But thats about to change with next gen consoles so idk how much value id put on that right now.
My ryzen 5 1600 still kicking.😁
Upgraded from a 1700 (3.95Ghz) to 3700X, still rocking the same X370 Taichi from Launch Day. This thing is a BEAST.
The 1700 was a monster at 4Ghz but the 3700X improves on it in every way possible.
X370 Taichi us a good mobo. Very happy with it.
I had the 1700 run at 4ghz 24/7 with 1.32v. A beast of a chip! I loved it but changed it for a 3800x.
But damn, I miss that cpu, was truly amazing!
And I had ram at 3400 cl14 with quite aggressive subtimings. :D
Cannot express how much we love these revisits!!!
I got mine for $150 aud last year and paired it with the B450 Tomahawk Max after seeing your review on it! I still find it awesome that I might be able to upgrade to a ryzen 4000 CPU too. That's going to be a massive bump in performance.
Thanks for your hard works Steve.
Stay safe and healthy.
Can't wait for you testing zen 3.
Why not overclock the 7700K? Thumbnail said 1700 vs 7700K but only one of them is overclocked :/ Intel has a lot of overclocking headroom, why not use it?
I was wondering this too. Since you're comparing it to 1700 vs 7700k you should have overclocked both. Regardless, love your content Steve, thanks for the hard work.
I agree, OC vs OC the 7700k is streets ahead of the 1700 still for gaming. And will use much less voltage to get there.
Yea idk why he never overclocks it. Mine reach 5.1ghz and trust me that thing still a beast for gaming, at least on a 60hz monitor.
@@ArthurM1863 nice 5.1Ghz is sweet. I have mine at 4.7Ghz at the moment but could probably push it to 4.9Ghz with some tweaking. It's the best part of the Intel range especially the 7th gen. That's also 4.7Ghz all core full load.
Steve answered that early in he video
Respect &.R.I.P. Teddy
My friend got a 7700K over a year ago. I told him to sell it and buy a Ryzen CPU. He sold the 7700K and for that price he picked up a Ryzen 7 1700X and an ASRock X370M-Pro4. He's really happy with his CPU.
If he just play games thats a downgrade tho
I got an HP with an R7 1700 about a year ago as an anticipated replacement for my 11-year old, 6-core, Phenom II, Dell, which is still chugging along, and is still fairly usable. Hopefully it will be as long lived as the Phenom II.
I just came here as i was watching a video from march and i wanted to thank you for benchmarking war thunder, its a massively popular game that not many people benchmark. Definitely would like to see that game benchmarked going forward too:)
Hmmmm seems my decision to wait for the 4000 series to upgrade my 1700@3.9GHz might well be a good one lol
ditto to that! what voltage do you have ur cpu at. Mine also at 3.9 i used to have it at 1.325 but up until recently ive had to up it to 1.35 in more demanding titles.
I bought 1700x (as an early adopter for the first time) when they first came out. I do gaming on 1440p so I'm less affected by CPU differences. I'm still very satisfied with my Ryzen cpu and expect to use it for a few more years to come. I can't believe I've already had the cpu for a little over 3 years already! Wow!
great vid ....I was one of those unfortunate people who bought a 7700K just a few months before the 8700K was announced... still using it to this day at 5ghz (-200mhz avx) ...I'd love to build a ryzen 9 3950x system but got to many other things that need my cash first :(
I have a Ryzen 7 1700X paired with a Saphire RX580 8GB Pulse GPU, also using 32GB Corsair DDR4 2666. I'm still loving its performance.
My first Ryzen system was built around a 1700 and a 980Ti. Since I upgraded from an FX-8350, it was astonishingly good. My chip can hold a 3.8GHz OC but apparently has a flimsy memory controller, as it struggles with 3200 RAM. A BIOS update would no doubt help, since I haven't done one since mid 2018. That CPU is still in service, now with a 2070 Super in my HTPC.
3 years on my R7 1700 @ 3.8Ghz 1.28v and loving it. Have it paired with a GTX 980 Ti and a 2k monitor. Looking at a RX 5700 XT first and then after that a X570 with 3700X I need to get on the GPU first for monitor reviews since the 900 series GTX just doesn't support everything I need it to and I don't review Gsync monitors or at least as of yet xD. I also need to get on the X570 platform for storage testing as well. Wish I had your guys budget lol thanks for going over this again its data I really wanted to see but cant get to testing for yet.
Well, since I bought a Z270 board and a 7700k and if I bought a 1700 and an X370 board, I'd need to invest in a 3600 or 3300X, just to get the performance I've had for 3 years with my Intel chip, so, feeling good about it, when more cores/threads are required I'll upgrade then
exactly
Finally someone who can think :)
The ones who bought into Ryzen probably end up paying more in the longrun just to achieve the same(or even less) level of performance. Lot of people got suckered and don't even realise it.
Finally someone who doesn't buy into the Ryzen craze
@@EVIL19231 except I only have to buy a CPU to upgrade...wheras Conza will have to buy a whole new platform to run his next upgrade on. the " Ryzen Craze" as you put it has more options for the consumer. Its a bizzare logic you guys use.
I have a Ryzen 1600 for my kids PC. That thing is just butter smooth on everything i am impressed.
My 1700 is still at 4.0Ghz all core OC . Looking forward to the next gen. Maybe I will upgrade. Bought it at release. Best CPU since the celeron 300A.
I would probably wait till am5
I have been asking for this for months to the main hardware media from Brazil, HUB for the rescue as always!!!
It's almost as if you read my mind, Steve. I've been sporting a R5 1600 since release and was teetering on the thought of upgrading to R5 3600 or Ryzen 4000 part once they drop for desktop to support a GPU upgrade. Looking forward to your reviews on those!
I upgraded from a 4th gen i7 to the 1700 when it came out. pretty much the same gaming performance and much better multi core. This year I upgraded to a 3700X while keeping the same motherboard. Couldn't be happier :)
Thanks a lot guys, i will upgrade from gtx 1060 to gtx 3080 / 6900 xt and now i have a better view of the performance that I will have with this setup
I would love to see a comparison of all 8 core 16 threads CPUs that ever existed (or with quad cores)
Ok Steve. This is more just to satisfy curiosity. Fx8350 vs i7 4670k in modern titles. I want to see if AMD's 8 bad cores coupe any better than Intel's 4 of the same era today?
Or even better vs the Intel i3 8350k just for LOLs.
@@SubTract04 You can see FX-8370 vs G4560 from the video above for 16 games average. Nearly the same, so i3-8350K will crush the FX and... i7 4670k - such CPU does not exist yet, if you mean i5 4670k - it is a little slower than 8350K, so basically the same, but if you mean i7 4770k - the FX will look like a dead man walking in front of it.
Pretty much my experience with my 1800X on Davinci Resolve, the production speed is around that of the Ryzen 5 2600.
Glad to see these revisits. I'm still happy that I went with the 9900k at the time, even though it looks like I overpaid for 1440p performance, future GPUs will be able to see the full potential of these CPUs in games that are GPU-bottlenecked at 1440p
Thanks for all the data!
I bought an Asus Crosshair VI, 32 GB DDR4 3200 and a 1700 immediately on launch. I am still running the same board and ram (upgraded now to 64GB) with a 3950x. Just can't believe how long the AM4 socket and the x370 chipset have remained relevant. I now have more than 2x the performance of the old CPU without having to spend on a new board. All I can say is going with 1st gen ryzen was totally worth it. My old 1700 now retired from the main system is doing htpc duty in a mini itx board.
Should have put the 7700k OC results in as well .
The point you made with the 7700k upgrade to (or lack of) 8700k issue on the intel front is exactly the reason I haven't bought an intel setup in 20 years. Get a motherboard and CPU - 2 years later, oh, I want to upgrade... NOPE! I do a lot of upgrade and hand-me-down with friends and family. It is significantly more expensive with Intel vs AMD. Thanks for the great video!
I'm glad you included th 1600, as that's the processor that I have, with plans of upgrading to the 4700x when it gets released (ideally later this year) and seeing that the 3700x has up to like 50% more performance in some tests is good to know!
I agree on the ideal core count comment. I’ve got both a 6 core and an 8 core in my two gaming rigs and I can’t really tell any noticeable difference. 6-core definitely seems to be ideal for gaming for most people right now.
9:57 Zen 3 will be the best gaming chip confirmed
Ur goddamn right
I had my first build in 2016 which used a 6700 (non K). I upgraded to a 7700K in 2017 thinking it would last for a long time. Once Ryzen hit boy was I wrong. I've been happy with the gaming performance it has given me, but when Zen 2 arrived, AMD immediately sold me on my next upgrade path. I'm still waiting to see the GPU releases around the corner as well as what AMD's socket plans are after 2020 before starting the next build, but it's been a thrill seeing how far they've come.
I have Ryzen 1700 with 16gb 3466 RAM. I bought a processor for $ 150 a couple of years ago at a sale and am very pleased with it.
I only watched the final thought section, very interesting hardware history right there!
I’m still running the R7 1700 and paired with an RX 5700XT! Running @1440p 144hz. Can often be hard to always maintain 144hz so freesync is a life saver. New processor definitely a next buy.
Purchased the Ryzen 7 1700 for $80 used w/stock cooler to upgrade my A6-9500 dual core. Looking forward to feeling the performance boost.
Still got a 1700x and Vega 56, and it’s still a beast especially for what I paid a year and a half ago! $129 for the processor, $220 for the GPU!
Running my 1700 at 4ghz and it runs very well. I bought mine very late in the product life cycle, so it only needs 1.35v
For anyone curious why the overclock makes so much of a difference sometimes in core-heavy workloads, the all-core boost of the 1700 is typically 3.3GHz from what I can tell. So a 3.9GHz OC is a pretty substantial increase.
Oh hello New Hardware unboxed video? Instant watch and like :)
how about watching the video first?
It's really interesting to see how the new 3300X has almost perfectly tied up to the performannce of the 7700K. I know it's 3 years later, a more refined architecture in a reduced node, but finally with closer clocks and a unified CCX the gaming scores are getting really competitive. Gives hope for what Zen3 might bring if AMD really makes it an 8 cores CCX with unified cache.
I'd seriously like a revisit for this processor every year. I'm sure that Adobe CC has been updated since 2020, and it'd be interesting to see if it's still this unoptimized.
i'm still using my r7 1700 as a secondary productivity based system, its running ultra efficiently, ive underclocked and undervolted and it doesnt consume more than 55watts [as reported in hwinfo] when running an all core stress, its basically set at the base clock, never runs over 45c on the wraith spire that is cooling it!
Then what's your point ?
Let me guess for mining right ?
I came from a 1700, to a 3950x.... AMD has some of the best CPU’s I’ve ever used. My current 3950x is better then anything intel can currently offer me 🤔🤣😂.
I went from a 1700X to a 3600 using the exact same X370 ITX setup. Its way more stable and much quiter / cooler under load. Memory sensitivity in particular was a factor. I've got no regrets with the change, both chips are great but the 3600 is the way forward for me.
Hm it is interesting to see that you do not use the DX12 Battlefield V benchmark... rather the dx11 one. Probably because of the issues I did not follow that much but it was a really good pointer of well optimized game and that can use up to 8 threads in dx12, the API at least. Anyways, this video is why the HU rocks and it will, long term bench of any tech what is a progress in gaming and some programs. Great one!
hey Steve, would you consider in the future adding benchmarks for Adobe Animate (Flash) and ToonBoom Harmony or TVPaint, as well? Those are industry standard 2D applications used by a majority of productions and major studio, along with AE. here's a list of Flash tv series productions from wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_television_series
Changed out my 4770k for the 1700@4.0ghz. Cool and quiet, eats every thing i throw at it.
This content is such a gift! I have so many friends trying to upgrade their processors and this really reinforces just how relevant their ryzen 2600's still are.
I've gotten a couple of them to invest in monitors instead luckily (they picked up the new monitor from Asus with 280Hz IPS panel (VG259QM), would love to see a review on it but they've been loving it so far)
edit: somehow missed your review on the 27" version of the monitor I mentioned, you guys are next level - gonna go watch it now lol
What is the situation with the software/BIOS fixes? Was every fix applied to the testing configurations? Only thing we can say for sure, is that hyperthreading was not turned off for the 7700K, but that is somewhat understandable.