AMD Ryzen 5 5600X vs 3600 CPU Comparison - Worth Upgrading?
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AMD’s new Ryzen 5 5600X processor is great, but how does it compare against the 3600 from last generation? I’ve compared both in games and applications to help you decide if it’s worth paying more money for the 5600X, or if you should consider upgrading from the 3600 to 5600X.
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:42 CPU spec differences
1:21 Test PC
1:45 Overclocks
2:17 Application tests
5:57 Application differences
6:31 Power draw, thermals, clock speeds
7:32 Gaming tests
10:16 Gaming differences
11:07 Cost per frame value
11:39 Conclusion
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More Zen3 videos coming soon 👀
Can't wait for Zen 3 to hit mobile.
@@dondraper4438 Me too!
Hi, would you ever consider doing some RPCS3 tests? It's very CPU intensive and a lot of people are interested in how Zen 3 improves on Zen 2.
@@LudicrouslyLiam what is that?
@@sushimshah2896 It's a playstation 3 emulator
everyone else: yeah upgrades time.
Me: Now I Can Afford 3600. :)
LOL same hahaahaha
Same, I've a 3600 waiting to be used, but I just can't yet because I'm still waiting for my GPU to arrive
i doubt this will happen, in fact 3600 is going up in price like crazy this month it went up by 40 euro where i live , but we can always dream i suppose
Lol, when 6600 will appear i will finally upgrade to a 2600.
I've seen some cheap 3600
Even saw a 3600x for 160
this is exactly what i was looking for
Hope it helps!
All in one place with great summary! Best comparison out there!
Do you think that the same configuration with 3070 would make a difference? I would like to see a cheaper card in this comparison.
@@mariuszmaterek4857 In 1080p you might see 5fps difference but otherwise gpu bound all the way...
@Water God Why??
@@JarrodsTech hey! What’s the best gaming laptop for $2000 AUD?
AMD Boys: This cpu is trashing intel
AMD Boys: Make it cheaper because I am broke
ahahahaha thats so deep
seeing that Intel is dishing out great value CPUs lately like the i5-10400F, AMD still needs some budget choices imo
this sums up this launch perfectly
@@rdablock I’m sure they will eventually drop more budget options, rn is just the hype phase. Took them a bit to drop last gens budget options after the flagship releases.
Intel 10th gen CPU's like i5 10600k / i7 10700K are better and value for money unlike their earlier CPU..My 7 year old I7 4770k paired with RTX 2060 is still performing very well in all new games..... Planning to upgrade finally to i7 10700k
"but it's no match for ubisoft's err, optimization" lmao top comedy right there
assasins creed syndicate, a 2015 game, has less fps on my pc than doom eternal on ultra at 1080p
@@DJAPE-vq5jw not a fair comparison, it's an open world game vs a corridor shooter, still though im sure it can be done better.
@@DJAPE-vq5jw Most of those games are ONLY 60hertz/frame, I recently played syndicate there's like 5 graphical options which non- are graphical options..
Also just because you have a new or powerful system doesn't mean it'll beast any game, OLD games build on OLD hardware perform WORSE or not at all. such as Diablo 2. direct draw ... pixel shading tech. adobe... shit that simply don't exist anymore which means its a function the CPU/GPU does not have and can not perform.
@@kelynbrowen7034 60hz/frame
wait to 60fps is 3600Hz?
@@kelynbrowen7034 Depending on which old game you're playing, you will have a better performance emulating it rather than playing it directly.
simple conclusion,
if you are rich, upgrade
if you are not, don't upgrade
exactly....make proper frugal decisions with money earned esp if there isnt much to spare
If you're poor you should have way bigger worries than what CPU you'll be gaming on lol. I only got into this pc build / gaming world after I started making decent bank, it would have been way too frustrating otherwise. Window shopping is trash.
@@br3ak_ exactly and every week/month/paycheck that passes and the 1-200$ put aside from said pay....puts you that much better a step up with GPU cpu mobo etc....ssd options. With each month an ideal PC build gets that much better as far as purchasing power....so patience becomes a learned skill....and by the time you get 3000$ for a maxed out pc capable of 60fps 4k or etc.....you realize a month later and you can have a motorcycle or a used truck etc.....vs sitting at home on pc...you can be ridin or offroading or etc....a few months to a year later....thats a solid down payment for new car....ppl that "want" things ought to plan a stringent spending plan and a savings plan....its more ideal and rewarding....being able to track the progress of what you can buy...and what you could have bought as a motivating factor....then we have the "excuse" xyz kiddos that if they live in the states really have no excuse
If you're rich you won't be looking at 5600X lol
If you are rich just buy a 5950x and a fucking 3090
as an owner of Ryzen 3600 I appreciate 4K comparison :) this proves to me that I won't need to dish out 300 for CPU and can spend all the money on GPU
I have seen cases if people running 4k on a modern gpu with an ancient fx8350 processor and only seeing like a 10fps difference between that and zen 1. So yeah if 4k gaming cpu really doesnt matter much.
Honestly yeah. GPUs still aren't fast enough for 4K for CPUs to make a decent difference to justify a single generational leap.
@@Malohdek Yeah, it’s only really an issue if you already have a 2080Ti or better, and even then...
@@johnbuscher 2080ti doesn't make a difference. He's using 3090 to test and you only see so little difference if ever any.
CPU gets less relevant the higher resolution you go, your 3600 is fine
Me when they release zen 2:
Nah I'll just wait for zen 3
Me when they release zen 3:
Uh i'll just wait again for zen 4
“eh i think i’ll wait for zen 5”
then 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15... 69... 420
@@someguywithmtndew5691 😂 haha 😂... stfu
@@Ubigmad-vy5ps no
Same i'm still using a Fx 6300☢
@@notFR4 oh god, upgrade or switch it our for an i7 2600/Xeon X5680
Thanks a ton for including the percentage difference graphs after all the tests! Gives a nice summation and overview afterwards. Otherwise you have to hold too many numbers and the general impression is more skewed
I personally wouldn't upgrade unless i am getting a new GPU or something :p
Fair enough!
Sure would be nice to get one of those, for example, "500$" 3070s
...lemme just check the prices here
...750€
....fk that
@@x1c3x I swear buying gaming laptops with mid range graphic cards in them is the way to go, I hook mine to an external high refresh rate monitor and a kb&m and it's pretty much the desktop experience.
between that and an ideal panel/monitor for said usecase or build. I find the 240hz-360hz FHD realm to be dependent on CPU performance among GPU pairings. Same to anyone with hopes of running g-sync with 1440p....or even a 240hz samsung odyssey monitor. I feel most of those "concepts" to be logically contingent. also if youre going to be OC the cpu vs running stock...the voltage degredation/creep is that much more of an apparent issue with the 3700x...and equates to 1.4v+ usecase and the typical eventuality of system failure or ram failure etc. From running at 1.4v+
@Retendo stfu
Ryzen 3600 is still a beast. Worth every penny when I bought last year. I got the X version too.
Not if you want high refresh games, it's only good in 4k now
@@ThunderBlastvideo depends, if you are planning to play at 2k changing your cpu is absolutly usless, but if you are still playing at 1080p is worth the upgrade.
Same!
Still on 2600 not worth an upgrade yet. Unless I games at 4k
@@chaos3924 👀
Thx for the video, it was nice to see a video that wasn't cut constantly by mid ads
I was waiting for such a video! The 4k results were the interesting (for me) part. Knowing that there are almost the same is very good information. Thank you!
When it comes to overclocking the Ryzen, the focus should mostly be on memory fine-tuning.
This. Ryzen DRAM Calculator, plus Ryzen Clocktuner or adjusting load-line and PBO settings is the best way
I agree.
which is largely a pain and can take weeks+ time to dial in ideally. had this issue with an ITX power build.....the 32gb duel rank kit just wouldnt listen/run how i wanted with pbo. Turns out the shite AF psu included 650w "gold" with my inwin a1+ chassis....was the culprit. Terrible ripple and 300w only on the 12v rail. Paired with quality parts and manual OC...=LUL.
@Desktopia yep when i upped from 32 to 64(more or less a test the second kit is for another system) the 4 sticks being able to allocate across all the ram as stable as possible was some great 1% low yields. Most ive even seen utilized is like 24gb.
@Desktopia noup tuned 2x8 will perform slighty better i have 4x8 and i sitll use 2x8 due to reaching higher overclock and tighter timings 4x8 or 2x16 will only be better if u use memory on stock settings or xmp
Glad to see that you are getting more and more sponsors. These channel need to get bigger.
Hey, great vid!!
Was wondering if you’d ever do an Asus Rog Strix G15 for a review! There haven’t been many reviews on it....
Love ur channel!!!
one of the few reviews with 1440p and 4k benchmarks, thank you!
dude I really appreciate it that you showed both 1440p and 4k in your results, I really missed those from the comparisons done by Harbor Unboxed and Tech Jesus!
To be fair, their focus isn't on should you upgrade but rather how much better is the cpu compared to last gen and competition. 1440p and 4k would have skewed the comparison and possibly sent out a wrong message. I'm grateful that we have such scientific channels and also ones like this channel that are more geared towards more real-life decision-making for people with budget.
Doesnt matter how much better it is if you cant see tangible gains. I play at 1440p so I dont understand why I would give one shit about 720p or 1080p results. All I care about is my own performance at my own settings.
@@rykehuss3435 Well then you'll be happy to know that there is a MINIMUM AVERAGE 15-20 fps increase @ 1440p (assuming not 21:9), over the 3600, assuming you have a GPU that can handle it.
@@rykehuss3435 The concept for how HUB and GN (and many other channels which perform these kinds of more analytical testing) do their testing (an aspect of their methodology, or testing philosophy if you will) is to use the results as a _proxy_ to work out the kind of performance improvements gen to gen, and architecture to architecture, and then encourage the viewers/readers to extrapolate as needed for their particular application.
If you want to use the results directly, so you know what performance to expect, that's also a valid thing, but let's not pretend that HUB and GN's testing methodologies are somehow worthless, as they're far from it. They just have a different purpose, and that's fine.
(this all being said, both HUB and GN _also_ perform the kind of testing you seem to want, at 1440p and 4K - it's just not part of their CPU reviews, due to the kind/style of reviews they do. They do sometimes do setting deep dives and optimisation guides, however, which are excellent, and I highly recommend them!)
5600x is nearly double the cost of a 3600 here where I live. So no way I'm upgrading to pair with 3070 at 1440p even if I can afford to
Launch prices, I expect the R5 5000 will either have a value skew or the 5600X will become cheaper with a faster "gamers" skew emphasising boost as production ramps.
I agree, you won’t see that much of a boost at 1440p, nearly twice the price for 15% more FPS? Nope.
3600 is only $200 or sometimes less, and the 5600x is about $370 where I live
@@azimuth011 200euros for 3600 here, but i can get a 3500x for 110euros. Should i upgrade from 1600af u guys think?
200 vs 300 $ double the cost? You should learn some basic math man..
The Excel gains are crazy! More FPS while tabbing to the next cell! :-D
Nicely presented tests and commentary. Thank you.
definitely upgrading, I'm excited to finally change my 7yr old laptop
changing from laptop to a desktop is not upgrade , its a fucking milestone
Time to perform a ritual sacrifice to that thing as demanded by the Old Gods... hammer it to pieces in the nearest parking lot.
@@tehJimmyy glad to be praised by someone! As a loser who’s been barely gaming on my poopoo laptop is now finally purchasing a $1400 pc. That is what years of work and dedication leads to
@GwnLeon yeah it’s 1000 times better I have *almost* all parts now. I’m reusing my old gpu doe :/
@@libertyprime9307 can't do that, I live in an asian household and they'll question where the laptop is
Jarrod always comes through with the perfect videos for what I’m tryna find out 👌
Thanks Jarrod! Excellent, useful content as usual.
Thank you! Really appreciate adding the 4K resolution to the comparison since it's mostly the resolution I play in and def need this video to be sure to save that extra cash going for the 3600 and a better GPU!
Difficult to at the moment get at better GPU than the 3090 that's in this test system. :) I was surprised to see that the difference between the CPUs were so small at 4K. I take it even having a 3090 is a bottleneck at such high resolution, or otherwise the difference should be bigger between the two CPUs, right?
Thank you for including 4K gaming FPS results. I feel too much emphasis is given to 1080p gaming just because it shows more differences. This is an excellent comparison review!! At 4K, most games will care more about GPU than CPU unless you play Star Citizen like me where everything matters...
This is why most CPU benchmarks leave the 4K results out because as tou have said - 4K is GPU bound territory.
Amd be like : "fine I'll do it myself"
Thank you for testing at higher resolutions. Makes me feel less panicked about waiting for a bios update to grab zen 3, since I have a 3440x1440 screen.
Yea do the comparison, it would be interesting! Nice video as always.
0:47 did I hear 3600X?
anyways I was waiting for this video
Typo with the old mouth machine.
@@JarrodsTech Ah lol no problem just wanted to confirm
Thanks for this video tho
No, this video is talking about if you have the 3600 and if you should upgrade to the 5600x. Not just a comparison with the CPUs
@Mi Shell ohhh sorry I misread your comment mb
Thank you for testing 4k. It’s what I play at on my 3080/3600 and it’s great! No need to upgrade unless a specific game I play at 1440p is 20-30% faster and above the critical 80fps. Cyberpunk might be one title worth upgrading for. I’m assuming I’ll be playing in 1440p (4k render) DLSS ray tracing.
Well, this helped a lot! Thanks!
A much needed comparison
Thanks mate
No problem!
Thanks for the video! I bought a Ryzen 3600 system this summer and wondered if it was worth upgrading to the 5600. I'm super happy with it's performance right now, maybe I'll upgrade next year if the price drops.
Please always include the 4k cpu comparisons, I game at 4k and I like to see the 1% lows results as sometimes at 4k certain cpus help improve the gaming experience more than others even at 4k. Thanks for your work Jarrod!! Love from New York :)
exactly...nothing is more tilting than seeing complaints about 4k content....by non 4k gamers....they really dont know how much of a lack there is in 4k content and viable information towards how to make 4k gaming viable. The naysayers really dont do much but hurt the process. I recommend bang4buckpcgamer if you want to see some 10/10 4k content and insights on building a pc for 4k gaming or 4k gaming+recording/streaming. That dude is a str8 goat of 4k gaming atm
@@anhiirr Is 4K noticable though at a 27 inch monitor? I heard it's not worth having 4K on smaller monitors.
@@deadrock1678 i dont have a 4k 27"...im saving for a 48" oled...i have a 34" 1440p uw
@@anhiirr i dumped my 1440p ultrawide for an LG CX OLED aboutbtwo months ago and I couldn't be happier. I just need to get my hands on a 3080 or 6800xt for their HDMI 2.1 ports so I can get rid of some chroma subsampling I have on text.
@@JonathanS89 literally same XD....i like the ultrawide for racing games most NGL....but i cant wait to get a 4k CX....from costco/kirkland most likely. G-sync on 4k oled seems like the best endgame for PC gaming ATM. Having fun playing godfall with my 5700XT free key....as i await cyberpunk on the 3070 FE....(returned 5700xt KEPT THE KEY XD).....the shadowlands DXR demo was such AMD payed sponsored content so LUL.....DLSS and RTX for cyberpunk 4k is the goal for how im gonna spend a chunk of 2021 While stepping up to a 6800xt/6900 or a 3080.....ideally the ampere card to run g-sync with the LG.
Thanks for including the excel test results, up to now i was thinking of going 3600 but now unsure as i use excel alot. why do you think the 5600x does great with excel in particular?
Exactly what I need to know rn good job
Cool video, however I'm more interested to learn when going from a 3600->5600 is worth it with certain gpus. Cause i can imagine that a lighter gpu will not give the same 1440p results as this test but dont know how much
Ubisofts "Optimizations" Man that made me laugh so hard. You could really hear the quotes in your voice there :'D
Excellent format of the video 👍
Great informative piece of work
Great video! Can you do this with the 5600x vs the 3700x please? Trying to work out if the upgrade is worth it.
It's on the to-do list!
Yes, especially if it helps makes black Friday sales decisions if there is a sale on 3700x
i find the 3700x to be inherently flawed due to its 65wtdp and inherenly high voltage required to clock above 4ghz. As far as that goes you may want to consider the 5600 launch in january...considering how damn hard its going to be to find a zen3 chip instock until then....IJS...then if you want to run that mobo for years longer...eventually get more cores...since the 5600 will be 220$...and offer zen3 performance in games vs zen2. IJS. Plus youl eventually upgrade from the 3700x for similar cicumstances/reasons. in 2022+ anyways.
Just btw ^^'
Even if the 3700x had a better price/performance ratio (not sure if it has), the 5000 series in combination with the new 6000 graphics series has an additional performance boost with their smart memory access technology. (If you already had this in mind, then just ignore my comment :3)
Totally not worth it
it would be great to see the results with a mid range GPU just to confirm the upgrade would be minimal
That would defeat the whole point because it would be GPU bound. This is comparing CPU so what is the logic in bottlenecking the CPU with a mid range GPU.
@@Andrew-xo6hl it would be a real scenario, so much more useful... who is pairing a 3090 with a 200$ cpu?
@@DavidPLopez real scenario or not, this is a cpu compairson, which cpu performs better, end of story. In order for an accurate comparison all other bottlenecks and external factors have to be eliminated. This shit is taught in highschool science did you not pass high school?
@@Andrew-xo6hl GPU performance do come into the equation when we are testing out 2 CPUs which are from different generations. Even a kindergarten kid would understand that newer generations have far more headroom in terms of bottleneck range when it comes to pairing them up with a flagship GPU from NVIDIA or AMD. You wouldn't pair up a 3600 with 4090 and compare it with a 5600X paired up with the same, there will be performance issues for sure with the 3600 build. So, in order to eliminate such differences in this video the person should've paired up both the CPUs with something like a 3060/3060ti or in a more extreme case a 3070 in order to draw out a fair comparison. Also to keep in mind, not a single guy with a 3090 would go for a 300$ CPU
@@DavidPLopez lol me 🤣. I gotten a 3090 but i have a ryzen 5 1600 🤣🤣
Nice video. I did some testing of 8 games with a 3600@4.2 vs 5600x@stock and only saw a gain of 9.1 fps on average. This was with a Radeon 5700XT @1080p Ultra settings. Next I'll try the 5600x@4.7. If I had did the testing with a 3090, I'm sure the differences would be similar to yours. Hopefully I can snag a 6800XT next week. Anyways, thanks again for the video.
Thanks heaps for comparing at 4k, I know it's supposed to be bottlenecked but I always want to make sure :)
I would like to see these same two CPUs ran again and compared to the stock cooler (ran in a closed case like normal computers). I have a hard time understanding why we need to buy $50 aftermarket coolers on “mid-range” CPUs. For people who hate noise, I understand that justification. But $50 could instead be used for more cores, double the storage, a slightly faster GPU etc when we talk about $1000 builds. If you could run -some- of these tests again with these two chips with stock coolers, that would be appreciated.
3600 still offers better value for money, especially now that the price of the 3600 might fall further.
how long will it take for the prices to drop
Not in csgo, especially at lower resolutions. If you enjoy playing bot games, then yea.. gg.
ehhh 5600x has like 20% more performance. id pay 300 for it easy.
@@twitchie2245 3600 might drop to 150-180 or so in a few months, you'll be paying 60% more for 20% performance increase. And the 3600's performance was more than enough as is, it's not like it was running trash fps. 5600x doesn't make sense for most customers that actually care about their budget.
@@MrSwipe might take couple months
You know what! Im gonna sub u ... enjoying watching your reviews
been toying with thoughts on upgrading for some time now so this vid useful thanks Jarrod. I'm at 4k, 3080 (water cooled), 3600xt.....the only thing I'm thinking might sway me further is if Smart Access Memory/Resizable BAR will make a further difference on the 3.24% average difference you identify here. hoping you see this and you think a SAM video worth going for :)
Great Benchmark man!
Please can you do
5600x vs 10900k?
Thanx :)
i cannot imagine buying a 3600 and now even thinking of upgrading, even the 1600 is still a beast lol
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hehe ikr? Heck my 9600k is still a beast as well. And I plan on downsizing my rig to the H1 case next Feb. :)
A beast? Really?
@@jpateka come on man it's still a great cpu that will last me for a few more years.
I have actually upgraded from 1600 to 5600x - my old 1600 was @ 4GHz +RAM 3200Mhz for 3 years and I gotta tell you the upgrade was well worth it even tho I am still using 980ti while waiting for 6800XT . The difference is significant in 1% lows and even tho GPU is old RDR2/ACO/Witcher 3 FPS are far more smoother there is no comparison to 1600. UNIGINE Valley from something like 4000 points on (1080 extreme HD ) to 4400 points just by CPU change. 1600 would bottleneck any newer GPU like crazy thats for sure.
Appreciate the benchmarks :)
P.S. - I know I was jokin about you testing the new non-laptop stuff but you do a great job with whatever you review
Good content, great comparison. Subscribed
I was a 3600 user just upgraded 2 days ago. Despite the usage/ value of 3600, my gaming experience on 5600x is outstanding. I see huge fps gain, pairing with my 3080.
As a gamer, I see the fps gain is very convincing, its like I upgraded to a better gpu even though your pc specs stay the same.
I got my 3600 for $159, and 5600x is going for $299. I can wait next gen. Or if they come out with a 5600 below $200.
Great video as always. It would be great to see real life comparison @1440p Ultra with GPU that will people realisticly buy if they are buying 6cores cpu (5700XT, 2080 Super, 3070.. RX 6800.....or in future , 6700, 6700XT, 3060Ti....)
it's monday jarrod, time for the Helios 300 full review
Would you recommend me, wait to the launch of the R5 5600 without X. I have read and heard that the launch price of the 5 5600 could be 220$. What do you think bro ?
Yeah, I'm guessing that AMD pushed the more expensive versions so that people would buy them sooner. Because they are defiantly going to release a 5600 and a 5700x sometime next year
Definitely wait, R5 5600 should be released shortly after Navi gpu, and i reckon the price would be ~$250....
Just be prepared for those scalpers b**s**d
Depends what's your current rig specs? If zen2+ 3000 series I'd skip the 5000 series if zen1 and< then get 5000 series it's the last for am4. X= overclocking vs non X= minimal overclocking. Prob just get non X if cheaper it's not worth it unless going to be heavy overclocking.
Absolutely. The x is an overpriced money grabber.
If it's possible, a test with more mid range GPU should be done as they are more likely to be paired with a 3600/5600. The gap might shrink due to GPU bottleneck instead.
Great video! I must have a really good 3600 because mine sits at 4.3Ghz @ 1.2V. perfectly stable and almost never goes beyond 60C with a 240mm AIO.
This video really helped my decision (and the fact that my motherboard doesn't support 5000 series), I upgraded from a 1600x to a 3600 and I'm getting 25%+ better performance from just the cpu upgrade! Thank you for making this comparison video!
me to this day and despite being 2022 i'm still crazy to see the joys of this processor, i only have rtx 2060 super but before i had this processor i had ryzen 5 2600 and i saw a big difference for ryzen 5 5600x and fluidity and it should being from 7nm lithography to videos and movies so much better despite having the rtx 2060 super I saw a big difference...... I just don't understand the comments
hey jarrod, ive been meaning to build my first pc in a while and I really want either the r5 3600 or 3600x but I can't find any good deals. Like months ago i was looking at the product and it would cost no more than $200 but now the r5 3600 on amazon is like $260 which is absurd. Do u know any good sites that offer a viable price?
Absolutely not. AMD shit on 3600 production because they saw nobody was buying the x or xt versions.
Anti consumer as fuck and most likely making space for 5600 non-x, rumor has it $220.
So you're stuck between 3600xt which is usually same price as 3600x now, or going up (5600x) or down (3100x).
@@libertyprime9307 yeah it’s the worst, i should’ve just bought it months ago when it was going for like $180. Now i’m a little stuck in final building my first pc.
i would like to that comparison against 3700x as kept seeing on other videos that 3700x is more future proof
Only because it has 2 more cores. Gaming performance is literally the same. Some might argue that 8 core should be standard because of the new consoles but I think that’s bull.
3600X will not hit 100% in gaming even with a 2080ti. 3700X gives you that extra 33% but imo its overkill. you dont need more than 6 cores unless youre editing. Newer gen consoles on 8 cores are using mobile cpus with low clocks that are nowhere near the clocks that a 6 core desktop CPU hits. Even the 4 core 3300x is good to go until you go above the 2070 super. I have 3600X and 2080 super.
5600x is more future proof than a 3700x. Its also faster than it, in both gaming and workstation loads. Just because new consoles have 8 cores (which are very much weaker compared to PC cores because PC cases have actually good cooling in general) doesnt mean games will start "requiring" 8 cores. They wont. They will require fast single thread performance, now and forever. Since AI and physics have to be calculated on one core. So what ends up happening is that 1-2 cores will get hammered the hardest, and after about 8 threads everything else is just gravy. 4c/8t is good enough for years to come, as long as theyre fast. Like a 10300.
@@rykehuss3435 i dont agree with you bro. Look at Valhalla on a 4 core cpu. CPU usage went up to 95% at times and when the gameplay becomes hectic, it stutters. I can't tell you how much i hate micro-stutters, it feels awful. With an 8 core cpu, everything runs smooth. It just feels nicer. I think 5600x is a bad buy because some games are already using more than 6 cores with over 50% cpu usage. It's not just about the frame rate you know. It's about frame pacing. How smooth it feels. So, 4 core is dead, 6 core is entry level and 8 core 16threads is ideal. 10-12 cores are premium options.
Realy, good comparison! Thanks
Great video. Thank you.
In other words, while the performance increase is great for a generation over generation improvement, it's pointless to upgrade from a 3600. These margins look good on paper but in practice they are not far enough apart to warrant spending money upgrading. If you are sporting a 1600/x then it's a great upgrade option. Pick it over a 3600 if building new so long as the price isn't too far apart. You need to bare in mind the market segment here, if you are not using a high end GPU you will not see these gains in gaming. Most people using the 3600 built a mid range/budget gaming system, choosing the 3600 over say a 3800x or faster so they could get a better GPU, likely something mid range like a GTX 1660Ti, RTX 2060 or RX 580/590, Rx 5600/5700 etc. Throw a 5600x in a system with any of these GPUs and while there may be some slight gains they will be insignificant when actually in use. Save a bit more money and upgrade your GPU and you will see larger, more noticeable gains, especially if you are on the lower end of the GPU spectrum currently, that is, if you even need an upgrade at all.
It's great to see someone who's not blinded by the benchmarks and actually think of part combinations and budget.
Exactly what I thought. I know you made this a year later.
But, I still bought a Ryzen 5 3600 instead of a 5600x simply because I didn’t want to upgrade my motherboard (A320 I know very entry level and pretty much no OC).
Very happy that my set-up is still very relevant regardless of the next lineup from AMD being here.
Given my current CPU is a 3600 and my GPU is a 3080, would that make it more viable to buy a 5600X?
@@SnafuYT the 5800x is your option
@@SnafuYT 5700x might be better option
Day 25 of asking Jarrod to include Destiny 2 in benchmarks
hmm
nice comparison. if you tested using a slower gpu like a 2070 or the upcoming 3060, would you see much difference between these 2 cpus?
Thank you for the information. Yes, I would like to see a comparison of the 3700X and 5600X. I would also like to see a comparison of the 3800X to the 5600X since I am contemplating upgrading my gaming PC to the 5600X from the 3800X and then using the 3800X to replace a 2600 in my everyday/trading computer.
3600x: it aint much but its honest work
Love to see 3700x comparison.
I'm contemplating swapping my 3700x for a 5600x as I don't utilise all the r7 cores (mainly just do gaming these days).
If on 1080p yeah I'd say go for it,if on 1440p/4k I'd just keep the 3700x
@@seanv4321thanks, I was also thinking about the smart access memory feature on the upcoming amd gpu's.
Nice problem to have! I have had to build with a 3400G when it became clear Nvidia weren't delivering enough GPUs to cause knock on price cuts.
SAM may become available on R7 3700, as resizeable BAR support is a PCIE feature not a CPU feature
The only reason the 5600x (GEN 3) looks amazing is because it's paired with a $1,500 dollar GPU. If you have anything less than a RTX 3080 - this will be a complete waste of money (unless you have an edge case for this CPU). A 3700x is about 5 to 10 FPS (maybe more or less in some games) and look at the 3600 in the video. Almost every game over 100 FPS and when you pair the 5600x with a lower tier GPU like RTX 3070 these CPU will be closer together in FPS than in this video.
You're game might not be using all R7 cores for gaming, but your computer is. I owned an i5 6600K 4/4 and because I only had enough cores for gaming. I had to make sure windows update was not updating in the background and I had to make sure I closed out all my programs (or I would get frame stutters). You down grade to 6/16 CPU. You are putting yourself closer to game requirements and you'll have to start doing the same thing in a year or two.
I have 3700x and I have discord open, chrome open (and maybe a RUclips video, or music app open) and could have windows update in the background. And I just launch my game without having to think twice about closing anything.
You should try to hold out for Zen 4 to upgrade, but if you really want to upgrade your CPU. Wait till they release the R7 5700x (around $380 I'm sure) .
@@blake112x my thoughts exactly.. good post
Good job, and a comparison with the 3800XT (or 3800x/3700x) could be great!
very detailed. thank you
So this is what it’s come to 🤦🏻♂️ watch the darn video!
I upgraded from a 3700x because I thought I would be streaming more often but couldn't really get into it. But ever since I got the 5600x, my performance has been very great. Gave my 3700x to my friend for Christmas and bought him a 1060. He got to build his first PC that week :)
You are good friend body
Update, he bought a 3060ti with his stimulus 😂
Good video! You definitely did lose the silicon lottery on the 3600 tho. I'm able to clock mine up to 4.5GHz on all cores at 1.325V which increases the even the single core performance quite significantly compared to stock. The difference on overclocked thus would have probably been smaller than stock, instead of larger than stock but its all within margins anyways.
8:59 Thank you for this, can you do low settings in 4:3 test next time?
xd yes we need to hit 1000fps
Conclusion play games at 4k is worth than buying new cpu
......lol right just get a 4k gpu like a 3080 or BIG NAVI....and dont look back till am5. Play non multi-player games....and be sitting pretty with game pass ultimate+ea play+etc games in 4k
but the monitor 4k is fuckin expensive
@@TheKillerZmile yep. It's cheaper to just sell and your 3600 and then pay for the difference.
@@TheKillerZmile Not even that, it's near impossible to get anything over 60Hz for less than the price of a 4K capable system.
@@TheKillerZmile 4k 60 is cheap, but 4k 144fps is where it gets fucking expensive. 4k is not good for multiplayer not yet.
AMD really needs to slow down so Intel can catch up.
@UNITYtechFUTURE Yeah
@Jarrod what 5000 Series CPU would you recommend for streaming? I play in 1440p and would want to stream in 1080p, I cant find any info regarding what CPU is best for streaming.
Made me subscribe..
Very good video very informative,
I need comparison of 3900/x vs 5900x
I am going to build my own pc. Do you think a 3600x will go well with the 3060 ti ?
yes definitely bro the Ryzen 5 3600 could easily handle the RTX 3080, and the performance difference between its higher sibling's like the R9 was similar, so yes you can pair the RTX 3060 with the R5 3600
Kudos to you Jarrod for including higher res scores not like 99,9% youtubers focusing just on 1080p performance
No problem! I admit I mostly do it just to show how little it really starts to matter though 😛
Hi....just came here to tell you....awesome work....keep it up....wishes....:-)
Finally someone answers everyone s question since launch
the 5600x is double the price of 3600. Absolutely no where in hell it`s worth it.
Right? Of course I'm not asking for a double performance (would be stupid expect for this) for the doubled price, but 3600 still kills it for the price...
Gonna upgrade when Zen 4 comes out. I'm rocking a 9600k right now.
Cool flex
@@GokhhanKoc it ain't a flex
Great vid Jarrod, as always. Just ordered my 5600x to pair with my 3080. It's surprising how worth at 1440p thiis upgrade is. I'm really happy. I will switch from an i7 8700
Good content as always 👍
sill, imma wait for zen 4. I need to change the motherboard anyways . (im still using the B350 board with my 3600)
is the b350 bad?
@@TexugoFTW its fine. But the support ends at zen 2(ryzen 3000)
So either way,i need to upgrade my motherboard for the new cpu. So i planned to upgrade it at zen 4
@@MARTINREN1231 Im going to do the same thing too im using a first gen zen I can hold out for a year more
Went from B350 ATX to B450 ITX, will settle for Ryzen 5 3600. Zen 3 is amazing, don't get me wrong, but in terms of value only 24% but at almost twice the price (plus he's using DDR4-3200 CL14). Ryzen 5 3600 it is!
If you keep on waiting and waiting, you'll never het satisfied. Buy now and regret later lol XD
Prices are dropping for zen 2, time to get that sweet ass 3700x I've been waiting for
Sadly not in my country. Out of stock everytime
@@nasdragonforce7 Have some connections with the shops. The only reason I can rest assured that I'll have a 3700x is because I know some people in places.
@@WrektSK I see. I almost use personal shopper assistance to buy a cpu. What on earth ryzen become rare.
@@nasdragonforce7 This is what happens when people start realizing that Intel has gone to shit lmao. I understand your sentiment though, finding hardware for me is a challenge in Bangladesh. Everything here is out of stock unless you try to get them as fast as you can
Great video! I would definitely like to see the comparison to the 3700X
Wasn't sure if the upgrade was worth it even with my 3600x all core overclocked at 4.4ghz, but think I will be upgrading in the new year. Thanks for the great video.
9:04 thats what I looking for 4K csgo
Well, looks like I'll be getting a 5600x!
Thanks, Jared!
That's what everyone else said too, so they currently don't exist
@@double0three yeah I'm not worried tho I can wait.
(I'm flat pancake broke, lol)
@@PhillipLemmon yeah building a Ryzen 5000 computer aint cheap these days. Components are an arm and a leg compared to last time I build one in 2012
@@double0three yeah and ths bad thing is by the time I want to build a 500 desktop..... Hopefully it'll cheaper but the next 6 or 7 versions of the great components will be out and dominating the market. Lol
Oh well..... Win some, lose some,I guess
Thanks. Great like always
Everyone else: yeah upgrades time.
Me: Still loving my 2600 even today :)
upgrading from zen 1, this is a huge upgrade either way lol
Same, I bought a 5800X that arrives on Monday
@@josenator726 I upgraded from my Pentium to a 5800X also.
Armatronic holy shit
@@How23497 Yeah, massive upgrade.
@@savagearma I want to see those before and after benchmarks lmao
I’m buying a 3070 and I need either the 3600 or 5600 but I want to save money do you think it’s better to save up to get the 5600 or just buy the 3600
just wait its hard to find a 5600x and there will be a non ex eventually so if youre patient wait for it if you need it now get the 3600
Broooo!!!! This channel is so fucking underappreciated considering the production quality, soothing ass sexy voice and value of information he is providing to the public. So why dafuq does this guy only have 250k subs?!?!?
It will be really interesting to see how this comparison changes with S.A.M. enabled