Dreamworld - I can't Actually Believe My Eyes
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You aren't insensitive, he's appealing to emotion which is the lowest kind of sales move.
He isn't paying the troll toll
No he would make a good politician !!!
was about to say pretty much the same glad i'm not the only one to see it
If you call out the bullshit you will be everything thats bad in peoples eyes who are on the wrong side
All that sighing is so obviously him trying to look emotional.
That's the kind of guy that would record himself feeding the poor, turn off the camera and take back the food to redo the scene with another.
Fuckn... you nailed it dude! >_>
Damn...
To sort of paraphrase George Carlin.
It's called Dreamworld because you have to be asleep to believe it.
It's amusing when the scammers actually title their games with scam names and people still throw money at them.
Nothing will ever beat Population Zero ;)
props for remembering :D
I miss the old fuck.
He's down there somewhere screaming up at us.
2 and a half developers....well that's their problem, one of their employees is just a pair of legs
This is why you should never hire half a dev. You don't even know which half you're going to get. The top half might be good conversation but have you ever seen a pair of legs program? It's horrifying I assure you.
@@DoctorEviloply yeah man those legs just don't have a grip on programming at all, don't give a helping hand to their co workers either
The pair of legs is the one competent programmer I think
More like zero. It's a straight up scam.
What if the dev is half a person the front/back way? Are they the toes, face, knees and dick half, or the heels, ass, and back half? Either way, the Garrison dude is the ass half of this project, and the lead marketer dude is definitely the dick of this scam.
"Hey man my wife died, my family hates me, I just got out of crippling addiction though it's hard-- Sometimes I feel like I could falter. Especially when I'm sad. Like right now. I could use getting happy instead. Just so you know.
Right so, buy my mix tape?"
Sometimes people help me *not* have feelings.
when people keep trying to get you to ride the Feels Train, it becomes easier to get off at Jaded Junction.
@@Shiirow i own prime real estate on jaded junction.
Wow, man...
How much for the mixtape?
@@SanyaJuutilainen Anywhere from 20 bucks* to 5,000 and you get a signed used sock and a (no expenses paid) trip to my town to eat a BLT with me.
*Does no include all tracks
This thread. 😁
It's actually worse than "all of it's just store bought assets" sadly. I talked with one of my friends that does dev work using the same engine and literally everything shown are free assets, or were free at some point in time. The airship is part of a tutorial that teaches you how to animate the wings, the sweets biome is an asset from fortnite, the pirates cove is a free asset pack, the UI pack is free, the resource gathering is a free pack... They are ALL free. The only thing that they might have paid for in terms of assets, because it was only free for a limited time, is something that would have cost them $150 which is something that's locked behind a backer pledge of $149 (convenient that)
@@bloodmoprhedgaming yes, using them is completely fine, however using them solely as your way of showing off your "game" while making massive claims and being incredibly disingenuous is NOT okay, and when you're assets are 90 if not 100% free in that situation, you are asset flipping.
@@cheken4326 i agree with both of you ( UE4 indy dev here )
It's good using assets just what they did is not okay.
yes using store assets... not inherently bad. what is bad is trying to pass it off as your own work and selling them to unsuspecting rubes. at least modify them or use them as a basis for your own original work. thats like me going to the store and grabbing all the free sausage samples. then sitting outside the store to sell them to people as they walk in with a banner saying "Chef Shiirow's BBQ Sausage" for like 25 cents each.
Yep even Voxel Plugin (pretty sure that's what they're using for the destructible terrain and the deformation for the snow and sand etc.) is free. Nothing wrong with using free or paid assets/plugins I use them also but the point is that they did practically zero work, any idiot with bare minimum knowledge of Unreal could throw it together in no time.
Things like this (which includes Chronicles of Elerya) really hurt legitimate indie developers secure crowd funding.
At a time where AAA games are literally trash reskins casinos, we need the indie games more than ever.
Completely agree! Talk about taking the bar and setting it on the ground in front of the mat...
The thing is, these scam projects and delusional projects exist because people know this. They will try to make a game in this way, because people WANT this. Only do they not realise that they are not competent enough or just do it for the money.
@@mrsqueak4837 I think there is fine line between thinking you know what you want, and the reality of what that actually is, plenty of ideas actually make for terrible games which is why experienced devs build prototypes to test theories, or more often ideas just don't appeal to all types, which is why anyone who wants what this claims to be doesn't really understand what they are asking for imo. The more this occurs the more it will continue, and I'm shocked how well this did considering how lazy and disingenuous of an effort it was.
I just watched a video on Chronicles of Elerya, and this Dreamworld sounds exactly like that situation but with even less effort to make it seem not like a scam.
"Reskin casinos"
That term hits right at home lmao have my like
I need to update my job application resume and add some lines like :"My fiancé left me" "Somebody walked into my house and kicked my dog"
Same story in almost every country song
For a good country song throw in something about your truck breaking down and a train
"... but it's fucking irrelevant."
this is why I respect you!
😄
Same here. And he’s totally right about that and the comparison to American Idol lol. They always have a sob story that has no relation to anything else and it just comes off as kinda grimey to profit off suffering
@@KiraTV1 When you said that, you sold me, i subscribed, love the fact u saying things as they are without giving a flying fuck =)
I think "Dreamworld" is a fairly fitting name, considering that's the only place where this game would ever exist. In your dreams.
Facts
Honestly it doesn't look appealing at all to me, just weird is what. I think even second life would me more enjoy able than this 🤣
OOF 100
The money will only be used for creating the game, not used for drugs. For sure. Trust them.
The moment he opened his mouth and told a story about him being unable to find a job, get lucky with a job, corona hits, jobless again made me retch. So what?
They ask for 10k so they'll get it for sure, since it's a more achievable goal, they'll get the money no matter what and they'll have extras too. Very very malicious.
His fiancé left him because she realized he's a sleeze ball.
*psychopath
She needed 5 years... She isnt that bright either.
The fiance that he bought a fake engagement ring for and continued to deceive her about it for the next 10 months.
Been playing mmorpgs for 15+ years. I really love that you take the time to do this kind of analysis, and act as whistleblower against this kind of terrible people.
Thanks so much man , I feel like it's content I've always enjoyed watching and truly enjoy digging into so its a natural fit for me. I'm so glad people such as yourself appreciate it
The VC folks who put money into this 100% deserve to lose it. Honestly, if an investor is so overflowing with money and yet still so delusionally greedy that they're falling for such an obvious scam despite having every opportunity to know better, I find it hard to blame the scammer. I even have some respect for the hustle.
12:00 "My fiance left me" Every time I hear it it makes me laugh my ass off
They should have been more professional and not talk about their personal life.
@@pandahacks4724 is grifter a profession?
@@deanbouvier8529 Depends on how good at it you are ....
Luckily she saw through his BS :D
@@deanbouvier8529 I guess it might be.
That last part where the dev talks about how he lost his job and his fiancé left him and such, was so obviously acting and BS that it literally made me cringe this guy can't act one bit but still was able to make a bunch of people give him money, no wonder this scam projects exist they get profit from it.
MMO fans never seems to learn. They keep making the same mistakes of getting all hyped up over anything that sounds great on paper from the dime a dozen idea men.
Yeah its been so long they've waited on anything to sink their teeth into they are like rabid dogs that snap up the meat with a single gulp, doesn't matter if its spoiled or poisoned, they will seemingly take any chance rather then feel like they missed out and have to go hungry. It really doesn't make sense though, many times it is literally someone pretending to through meat and they are chasing thin air... sad really.
ye the generic mmo fan is responsible for all the scams out there. Get out the torches and pitchfork, guys! We found our scapegoat
Well AoC is looking good though.
@@shadesmarerik4112 Strawman much there?
@@deathmastersnikch4365 I wouldn't buy the $500 pre alpha supporter pack, if I were you. Just saying.
"this is a rotten onion and we're peeling it back layer by layer." lmao, ffs dude, you come up with the best phrases.
Also love "amateuer hour", started using that irl.
Haha glad you're enjoying them man
You should make a kickstarter for a little bouncy "Kira head" that swears at you if you think about backing these scam projects. I'd back that one
ABSOLUTELY. With a simple control schema that has a "Tell Kira Head you'll back Chronicles of Dreamworld" button. I'd pledge my entire bank account to that.
I'll buy the DLC for the ball gag add-on that yells "GAMIGOOOO!" and maybe rains money.
Is there a Caspian DLC?
11:53 Right there is the answer to everyone questions: He just wants to screw as many people as possible because he was screwed in his life by his boss a job opportunity and a fiance!
Make sense!
I want to meet one their backers. I just want to know what pure chaotic neutral looks like in real life.
Probably a bunch of 13-year olds. So yeah, chaos personified.
I would like to meet the parrents of there backers -
Make no mistake, dear viewers, this channel - with regards to the gaming industry - is one of, if not THE most important channels you will likely watch. I do not say this as a 'fan-boy' - or, whatever the current vernacular is these days amongst youth/teens - but, is an honest dissection of the machinations behind the production of games and/or, the possible pitfalls/hopes from Kickstarter products. Not only that: this can applied to the whole industry; especially the disingenuous marketing employed by AAA games. KiraTV speaks from the heart and you can tell he is a gamer (if you are here, like me, you most likely fall under this category, also. I have been a gamer since I first witnessed my teacher boot up a game on a ZX80, on a black & white TV, in the 1970's, in my UK school) and has you and the gaming industries interests at heart.
I watch his channel with interest and hope that it will blossom into the hallmark of how reviews/overviews SHOULD be done.
On another note: take care out there because the world is bleak but, if we have good games, we can escape...
On the first day of the campaign I was somewhat interested in it. Since it had very few details I sent a message to the creator pointing out the sparse information and asking a bunch of questions. He took the easiest questions that could be answered in a subjective manner, reworked them, and used them to create the FAQ entries. He directly avoided answering questions like what he would do for servers and where they would be located. Between his statement that the game would be everything to everybody and his unwillingness to discuss any plans for back-end server support I came away with the impression that he didn't have any plans for actually releasing a game. A couple of days ago I followed a link he posted in the comments for a video he claimed showed multiplayer support (among other things). The video was 3 hours long. I skimmed it and never saw a second player in the "game". What I did see was horrible stuttering and lagging in a world that only had one player. I'm tempted to join the Discord just to lurk and see how long it takes for him to start spouting excuses for why people aren't getting the promised alpha access.
This is exactly why channels like this one are extremely important to the entire mmorpg global community & awareness
lmao, love that the dumb comment asking me to remove my stuff made it in the video, awesome video as always dude, keep fighting the good fight
These guys make Caspian look like Neil deGrasse Tyson. That's some achievement.
making a hack look like a hack...
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Thanks for the vid man. I am a game art and design lecturer and it pains me to see this happening. I am increasingly worried about my students adopting this fake it til you make it, without making it attitude as I have already seen this happening. Im increasingly telling my students to make good quality fun things and start from there, not create a brand from the top down with a marketing dept etc and see if you can scam people. Keep uploading man, curious to see where this goes.
The outro song makes me feel happy and sad at same time. Its like i had an awesome day and then its closing time , time to go home.
It's vile brilliance. All they have to do is basically deliver what that cobbled trailer shows and and that's all she wrote.
So you've got a guy who was on work experience at Facebook and Google, and another guy who was a waiter, promising to make the biggest game in history.
**seems legit**
I appreciate your level tone in these videos. So many other youtubers just shout everything with little analysis, swear to the point of oversaturation, and have some obnoxious hiphop or lo-fi beat as background music. Instead you get straight to the point, give your analysis and then opinion, moderate your ideas, and then move on to the next point. Really satisfying. Subscribed.
Thanks man
Zach's answers to questions reminded me one old joke:
- I correctly interpret the semantics of the question, but completely ignore its essence.
- Could you give an example?
- I could.
Girlfriend left him, a move Kasparov would be proud of.
my dog ate my homework...
How could his fiancé leave after hearing his pitch for DreamMarriage?
i saw this game in a facebook ad like two weeks ago and could not believe my eyes that it was fully funded. i'm not super familiar with premade assets outside of interior ones but i recognized the stairs instantly - i'm 90% sure it's the same model that valheim uses (the valheim dev has said he does use some store-bought assets to save time and edits them to fit the look of the world, in case others didn't know, but they do a great job!), and all of the rest just didn't seem to have a cohesive style which was a big clue. also that fps drop in the fireworks scene lmao.
2 dislikes are the same people who donated 10k+ to Chronicles of Elyria
😄
I backed COE ... not 10,000 but still sad to lose out on a Hundy
@@BoneFrossil I'm sorry but you are an idiot
@@BoneFrossil I'm not sorry, and yes, you are still an idiot
@@igniii3348 6 years ago it didn't look scammy at all cause there actually was a bunch of stuff being made but then they just stopped at some point. It's not as dumb when you look at it from this perspective.
Really glad this has been covered, came across this weeks ago via a Facebook ad, and as a developer myself was amazed at it's Kickstarter success considering the lack of professionalism and clear use of asset bundles etc.
This would take less than a week to put together in the condition shown on Kickstarter, it's a real shame that your average customer would look at this with different eyes and not understand why it's not worthy of investment
The world needs more people like you, if more people called out guys like these developers perhaps there would be less scam artists in the world
8 years to get 100 followers on Twitter?!
That is some bottom-tier marketing.
I got like 20 followers in a week and I don't know what I'm doing, lol.
I somehow got like 30 followers on tiktok and I don't even post content.
The fact he couldn't get more than 100 in 8 years is pathetic.
You can increase your followers by +200%, if you just change your pfp to a hot chick.
Social media is cancer.
Damn when i used twitter i managed to get 1.5k followers in less then 1.5 weeks. And i was just posting memes i made.
@@morpheas768 social media gives cancer to cancer
I'm surprised it got any backers at all, and I'm genuinely curious about the kind of people who would back such a project. I want to know the profile of the type of person who would fall for this.
Very few people "fell" for it. This is a money laundering scheme. Most (if not all) of the donations would have been sock accounts.
@@VendettaSoundtracks You might be giving people too much credit, but I hope you're right.
All I can hear from their Kickstart video is "PITY PARTY CONING THROUGH, FEEL SAD FOR ME, GIVE ME MONEYYYYYY"
As a VC in the gaming industry you really should be able to tell yourself that this project stinks to heaven...
Great source of information for this genre coming from this channel, absolutely love it. Nailed Dreamworld perfectly, I remember laughing at it when I saw an ad, and then how much they wanted... Makes you wonder if they were just looking to recoup ad costs in that kickstarter and pick up some more suckers along the way.
12:10 Kira you're a savage my man and 100 percent right.
I thought he was being nice, you should have heard what I said when I first heard it! lol
I love you dude but I wish I could watch one of these without cringing nearly to death. ;)
Keep up the good work, we all appreciate having someone like you in our corner keeping people honest and exposing those who would take advantage of us!
What's making you cringe mate ?
Thanks !
@@KiraTV1 Oh it ain't you, it's these clowns trying to sell us a literal dream they had haha!
This was a refreshingly reasonable take on purchased assets.
Lmao that "Oh woe is me." story.
You know somethings really good when most of your favorite youtubers do a video on it. I'm thankful you call it out.
Yep, gotta read the fine print always. Thanks for the update and the additional info, I figured once they hit a certain amount KS would not pull it even if they see it for what it is because as you show they covered themselves and they get their 5% no matter. For me the biggest issue is setting the bar so low on expectations, and at the same time creating problems for those who are earnest in their intentions. I think it goes to show though that some marketing awareness can get you a long way when it comes to KS and raising investment funding. Something i think a lot of other teams don't consider or put the right effort into because its not their forte'.
i would give an individual object to the backer as an award, then theres a skateboard with graffiti inside of the medieval game, which you can use as a Weapon or Shield.
So $1000 for game $10000 for crack, 1000 for game $20000 for crack. These guys are using the money to buy crack guys.
I think you have over estimated the amount allocated to the game.
KiraTV is my freedom fighter. I can count on you to keep me aware of these kind of scams.
I like to back Indie companies trying to make real games with great ideas.
These guys with Dreamworld make it hard for real devs trying to make a real game that could be great, it's just sad and Irritating....
That introduction video, just wow. Painfully fake smile, exaggerated sigh, then sob story.
This is RUclips 101 on how to manipulate your followers.
This is a good Video and pointing out these projects and backstory will save a lot of people money, not everyone has a built in radar when it comes to investments and during the Covid years people are getting nervous and are looking for a easy out but the writing is on the wall right there in front of you in the video and if this product does fail well chances are they will probably blame its failure on bad publicity and not on the Dev team if there even is one. I look forward to a follow up video 1 or 2 years from now and we will see how this plays out but I salute this channel and video.
Thanks a lot man , just bringing awareness to everyone where possible!
@@KiraTV1 your welcome and thank you.
The really bizarre thing about their entire concept is that I'm pretty sure one of them (or perhaps both) watched the movie "Ready Player One" and then decided to base the concept of their scam game off of "The Oasis" from the movie. Millions of players in the same world? The promise of adding in mechanics that will allow for all genres of games to be played in their game? Surprised they didn't add in the idea that they will hide obscure clues in random bits of the game that will turn over control of their company to the people who decipher it.
Bloody hell, I've played a lot of MMOs and other online multiplayer games. The stuff being promised for "Dreamworld" is ridiculously out of reach for even the biggest AAA game companies. And these guys claim to be able to do it for $7,000 and 2.5 developers?
Keep fighting the good fight! Your in depth research and strong character is much appreciated!
2 dislikes from the 2.5 developers lol
Cant the half one press a dislike button?
I guess he hasnt developed enough to do it yet.....
Ok, I'll see myself out now :D
I love this channel for the direct "no BS" approach and catching "fake game developers" with their pants down :D
That's what we do!
That investor email (and reaction to your Warning that this game is a scam) was great insight. Holy shit
Had a door to door salesman try the emotional manipulation tactic on myself and my roommate. Gave this whole story about how he was on his last leg and his life was just falling apart. If we bought this completely overpriced vacuum, he'd be able to go on this expensive vacation. As I was pushing him out the door my roommate said she'd buy it. I was absolutely floored. She spent $2000 on a vacuum that broke the first time she tried to use it. To this day I have ZERO respect for her and her stupidity.
This is the dirt digging/ mound building simulator I've been waiting for.
it felt more like hitting dirt with a magic pickaxe that makes chunks of land warps out of existence.
Vanishio Dirtorum!
Sad part is money like that would likely benefited other early access games like Empire of Ember, where developer have really done a lot to improve on game putting out hotfixes and updates regularly.
You aren't insensitive, I showed my gf this video when you first covered it and we laughed and laughed because there's no way his backstory happened the way he says it did
Those constant scoffs and his tone when he says "And then suddenly", combined with that plastic-ass smile gives me the impression that he's, not just a terrible liar, but also a compulsive one for some reason. >_>
Dude's definitely fucked in the head... i mean he refers to himself as a superstar, ffs... He must be delusional... Nobody believes that, because nobody has ever fucking heard of him, lol.
Damn, this looks easy af to make some money with.
True
True but it's only fun and games until a bunch of people sues you.
Kira back with the informative video! 👌🏾
These are my favourite types of video.
Love your honest, straight forward, no bullshit on what is being done out there. Hopefully law enforcement soon catches up with these shady criminals.
Well Chronicles of Ellerya “2” here we go.
Wrong. CoE managed to scam a lot more people.
Although, lets give Dreamworld time.....
"my fiance left me"
Good.
Two weeks? A couple of semi-experienced game devs can probably cobble this together in two days xD
not even that, these are all free assets.
Just download and install... takes a few MINUTES. :P
Your videos are extremely entertaining, and you really get to the bottom of things, keep up the good work!
Thanks ! I'll try my best
Default Unreal Engine character is an instant red flag
The sad thing with this is, that the vast amount of (private) backers who fall again and again for those scams are the very same people who would laugh at older people buying overpriced electrical blankets while being on some promotional excursion...
If they wouldn't be the sole reason that enables such grifters, one could actually laugh at them - but what they are ultmatively doing is not really laughing matter.
I found your channel because of this kickstarter. I've watched a couple other vids on how much a scam this game is and I am just fascinated by how many people fell for it, so was looking for more information on this mess. And now I have some new info, thank you. I think I'll stick around and see what other vids you've got.
Hope you enjoy mate
We put something together like that in 3 2hr lessons back in University. 2-3 weeks is far too generous. UE4 is basically drag and drop game development these days.
Also, his sap story at the start of his video is something called "Emotional Blackmail" it is a very effective marketing tool as you can see. I'm also pretty sure it is illegal in the US. Not 100% sure on that though,
Kickstarter is like eBay if u don't read carefully u end up with a box of the Playstation and that's it 😂
I really can’t understand for the life of me how people keep falling for these kickstarters especially ones this obviously bad... I’ve lost all trust in game companies tho, I don’t get hyped for any games anymore. I learned my lesson years ago lol.
When he was selling the game he apparently mixed up the notes for his eventual RUclips apology video.
Dude your videos are legit awesome and you’re calling them out and I love it haha keep it up
Great Job to expose those scams game that ruins the efforts for people trying their best to make a game from scratch and need real backup from communities.
It's been a week now and it's so strange how the DreamWorld devs have been radio silent since the campaign ended, almost like they're hoping this will just blow over and everyone forgets. Apparently they're making a video this weekend, but I'll be amazed if they go into depth and it's not just some PR rubbish.
Thanks for keeping on top of this game I did proper laugh at the last video when you welcomed Garrison to the couch lol and yeah it was proper like watching an X Factor audition or an episode of Dragons Den, I remember when somebody appeared on the show trying to sell an idea and they started crying and Peter Jones was like we're not a shoulder to cry on we're investors lol
Glad you've enjoyed following along man. Got to love when people get given the dose of reality
The real joke is that the alpha they're going to make with the kickstarter money and give to backers already exists and was sitting in Zach's Google drive account. There was a PC and MAC version with a prepared install guide documentation. The exe was ver. 1.0.0. The account was eventually set to private, but for awhile you could access it if you had the link. This guy also ran another kickstarter account that had absolutely no backers and then got a boost of $10k from a single backer. My guess is that the $10k was his own money or family, and used as a technique to drive interest. The campaign didn't get a lot of new interest and on the last day Zach cancelled it.
Yeah common marketing tactic , forgot to mention it in the video. Usually big donations at the start of a kickstarter are sketch
Dude, I'm on like my 30th idea, and 10 prototype. I would love to get to a point where I feel a Kickstarter would be suitable. I am a designer, but can do audio, music, programming, and some environmental modelling. I would only feel ready for a kickstarter once all of those elements were done, and I needed a character modeller/animator to help with the bits I can't do. It's frustrating seeing these videos.
“A fool and his money are soon parted”. Don’t be a fool.
If a company is open and says "Hey, we just want to let you know everything as of right now is store assets so we can really work on nailing gameplay feel and features before we commit to bringing on artists etc" but this is clearly nothing of that sort. Definitely looks just so fishy at face value. Crazy to think they've gotten the funding they have..
Honesty. Isn’t insensitive. It’s honesty
as a previous game dev, if i was going to make a game with friends, we'd prototype the fuck out of it first in our own time, to see if it had potential - not run to kickstarter etc for funding. at this point, there should at least be a decent prototype, consistent art style, design document and concept art or whatever.
11:38 oh my god the way he speaks is like those half-arsed made-up animated story times that claim to have really happened.
Facts
Game development is also much different from software development and I'm assuming that's what he was doing at Facebook, Apple, and Google? It's different architecturally and my biggest mistake was assuming all principals were transferable but I had a lot to learn and still do.
this zac fellow is the kind of guy that would lie about putting the brown sauce in the fridge
Is one supposed to put the brown sauce in the fridge, or no?
or the one flatmate who never puts the water in the fridge because he says "I dont drink it", but there's NEVER cool water available despite you keep putting bottles in it.
Now I know how to get funding for my game
This stuff really disgusts me, glad you’re bringing light to this. Hope more youtubers do
I've given up on kick-starters, get fooled by some early access maybe now, so we need guys like you to keep us PROPERLY informed.
too much stuff out there for free, which is miles better than what they will develop in the next decade. Remind urself that cdda, DF, LoL and PoE is free to play... why would u kickstart something like Dreamworld?
@@shadesmarerik4112 yeah, no way I was urged to buy this junk, one glance tells this one is nothing. I was meaning in the past, and I enjoy the talk from these type of people who expose to the world junk developers. Hope you have good game time.
Every time I hear about one of these, I’m reminded of the absolutely overlooked fiasco that was Yogventures
No, children fell for this and I don't mean figurative children.
Wow, that investor is probably investing in a casino or drug dealer by proxy lmao.
A group of university students could make that in week or so , absolute joke! And that much money :/
I bet his ex gets teased about this all the time. I need a in depth interview with her!
People like getting scammed! Because they seems to never learn from past mistakes.
100%
Same goes for BS such as "water from air" or solar roads.
Debunked time and time again, yet every other year a new startup appears with this nonsense.