Gotta give him props for coming up with an anonymous username like DogDayGod No way that could be linked to a religious leader with a wife that takes care of dogs during the day
Orrr maybe not a hitman, but a con man, which is the best and only kind of man in this story. Because Stevens clearly far from a man. So happy he got got during his dumbass grand dense plan to have his innocent wife get got. not cool, man. What a jerk off.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley I feel like a cool thing to do is to get on Ashley, meet guys for the sole purpose of getting information about them, finding out who their wife is by having a friend on standby follow them home, and then well free them up and allow the wife to go find someone who actually likes her and allow him to find someone under honest circumstances instead of Ashley Madison.
@@vanesslifeygo they got hacked and all data put on the net. you're a bit late. that aside i wonder what makes you the overseer of other people's lifes.
Listening to his son in the recording was one of the most upsetting things one ever had to hear. I was extremely hurt and heartbroken thinking of my own sons and how they can be when I'm gone for just a day. The fact he allowed his son to go through that read the epitome of evil. Sick nasty man.
He himself also doesn't sound distraught at all. Instead he's very calm and even laughs when the kid asks if he's going to re-marry. If that isn't a big red flag...
exactly what i was thinking. killing someone on its own is horrible enough, but to make his son look at his own mother like that? ive seen people die, and it's something that haunts you for the rest of your life. imagine seeing your own mother like that. i truly hope god is real if only so this man gets what he deserves in hell.
It’s such a vile thing to do to a child - he took his mum, and will now spend the rest of his life in jail depriving him of parents. This lad was adopted too, which I think makes it worse. I hope he’s doing ok.
How horrible, what a selfish man. Robbing her of all her life’s possibilities and then making her son part of the alibi and forever changing his life. May he never see freedom again.
I know right, you'd expect a dark web market to be as legit as the local 711 lol. It happens all the time no matter what your buying on the darkweb, most of those markets exit scam at the end too, I've even heard of one market threating to doc all their customers and vendors if they didn't pay 20-50k
@@diy_mushroomguy Right I just can't believe anyone would fall for a Darkweb Hitman even with the Reddit users saying they are legit lol. To think this idiot gave them 12k for nothing. I would like to see one of these idiots goto the police and tell them he got scammed hiring a hitman
@@UoooooooooooohIt's kind of both. He would've likely preferred to have been a grieving husband in his circles rather than a divorcing one, because of people of faith tend to look down on divorce. In faith circles, murder may be looked down upon but the husband's ownership and power over the wife is revered. Despite the obvious contradiction, his emphasis on his faith makes sense in terms of how women are viewed as property in the Bible. People of faith like him tend to believe that since the husband has complete authority over his wife, that also includes her very life. I see this sentiment a lot in Catholic circles governed by abusive people. We also can't deny it was about his reputation. Who wants to be the guy who had an affair and got a divorce? So, it was likely a potpurry of reasons.
Not his faith at all, his position of power inside the organization, his community, being looked up upon.. sadly many people inside churches don't care about faith at all
We had a similar situation in Knutby here in Sweden. Pentecostal cult leader killed his wife and had another badly injured by manipulating his cult followers. He couldn't divorce or break up because that would be looked unfavorably upon.
@@Volgotha But, the psychopathy is still in his DNA. Certainly, his mother would've been important in his development, and it is sad to lose both of your parents in an instant. A nine-year-old that's already been adopted and survived that abandonment trauma, now has more abandonment trauma because both of the parents that raised him are dead. Psychopath or not this kid has no parents.
$12k for three hit attempts? I'm not experienced in hiring hits, but that seems weirdly low. Like, "we have agent 47 at home" low. Bro was ready to keep throwing money at great value assassins
Oh yeah, that hitman had to be either an idiot or deliberately fumbling. I don't read Soldier Of Fortune or anything, but based on all the other spouse-hires-hitman stories I've heard, just one hit would be tens of thousands of dollars. (I mean, unless you're intentionally hiring novice hitmen, which I guess is possible too.)
i've seen a (real) case where a guy hired a hit on his wife and the full price was like 30k if i'm not mistaken. the hitmen "subcontracted" someone to help him for like.... 2k. so you never know (but they weren't "mafia", just dudes)
I mean... he also feels the need to act like one of the coworkers set him up despite the fact that everything straight up pointed right to him without any singular doubt. That guy is fully delusional no doubt.
Religious guilt and shame is a hell of a drug my dude. There are a lot of stories that are just as wild as this because the deeper you go into religion, the harder it is imagine yourself *not* being part of that community. I read/listened to one story of a girl who was thrown by her hyper religious family into a literal blizzard in her pajamas because she got outed as LGBT by her little brother. If she hadn't had a burner phone on her person at the time she'd have frozen to death under her family's porch. Those parents were so toked up on their standing and image in the church that they couldn't fathom losing an ounce of that position for having a 'sinful child' that they didn't bother to think of what everyone around them ( including that church ) would think of actual child murder.
Its a cult. You can't lose face in a cult, because if they don't close ranks to protect you, you are persona non grata in the community. You've only ever KNOWN this community because you were told all your life that outsiders are BAD and should be shunned (unless you're recruiting them). Now your boss, your coworkers, your kids teacher, your bartender, and even your family and friends are not talking to you and hinting you should leave town. You're the outsider and without any of the supports you received because you were a big dog in cultland. To narcissists (who always like to shit where they eat) murder seems like an awfully easy workaround in comparison to owning up and facing the consequences.
@@gearsoverdusk7303 Well said religions teach that many kinds of people are less than human, sounds about right. One i heard: it is ok to abuse and kill animals (pets) cause they have no souls.
He couldn't really believe that God would damn you for a divorce and an affair but not murder It's always the most devout on the surface that are the most rotten on the inside
It's not always that the most devout are the most rotten. That's just the plot of every TV show you've seen. You misunderstood the video - he didn't want to lose his standing in the church by divorcing his wife.
I get what you mean, but he said that he started having an affair *because* she didn't spend enough time with the family. For some reason he felt alone and that's why the affair happened.
@@ViddyOJames do I know this particular situation? You are correct that I do not. However these kinds of situations have popped up everywhere throughout history and have been rigorously studied from all kinds of perspectives. So to put it to a simple phrase, "we've seen this before".
Dude, hearing that kid over the 911 call... My soul hurts and I think it'll give me nightmares. To be able to do that to the kids mom and then knowingly bring them home and letting them be there to be part of his alibi. Disgusting.
And this is why its so important that divorce remain legal and accessible because the favored alternative is not, in fact, for people to work on their relationships
He can’t spit out the name…. Because he has no name to give. He let his desperation take him for a ride. And has given up any hope of being with his new ‘Mistress’ as a result…
Amy stood by him and was punished for it, for holding things together, for being someone to be relied on. To me every part of Amy seems to exude positivity. He deserves the harshest of punishments. This case really got to me. Also, could this murder have been prevented, with the local police knowing about it for some time. Poor adoptive son. I wish him and her other loved ones all the best, the strength to get through a life without parents (the adoptive father being the mother's murderer,) relative, friend.
Apparently, her "crime" was... doing everything he claimed to stand for and that she lived by. Her husband was so depraved he cared about his appearance and reputation more than her life (and heaven forbid appreciating her loyalty, I guess), while pushing others to live by what he was unwilling and unable to. That he still claims he is innocent with all of that evidence pointing at him makes me wonder what other lies he told her and everyone around them throughout his life. And that his poor child asked if he'd re-marry mere minutes after learning his mom was dead makes me wonder how fucked of a household he made it for his kids.
Hang on, the cops had contacted her about this? So they knew someone was trying to kill her? and its well known that most murders are committed by spouses or someone else close to the victim. Why the hell werent they already on this guy? 'No immediate danger'? What are you talking about! Just because the site the attempted murderer is trying to use is fake doesnt mean their intentions and alternatives will be! Thats nuts. Just complete incompetence.
The more one looks into them, the more one finds that competence (of the kind that helps people) often gets pushed out of police agencies, if it was ever allowed to be hired to begin with. Which sucks, because the kind of people you'd want to be cops end up not lasting long in a lot of districts.
@@sunkruhmhalaci2592tell me you know nothing about being a cop without telling me you know nothing about being a cop "yeah ma'am we got a report that your name is on a website, so we are just gonna arrest your husband on no evidence Mmk?" yeah thats recipe for a department being sued and officers losing their jobs
Because with that mentality we would be.....arresting everyone for everything based on "oh well they are close to the guy, must be them" there's this little thing called *evidence* that one needs to start watching someone or arresting them
I agree, but maybe the murder one is because it also means something else? So a bot would glance over it probably but not suicide. I think any serious matter should be talked about without having to censor words relating to it. It kinda feels disrespectful to me
@lateformyownbirth I dont think that is true either way you cut it. Hearing about suicide in a video is not necessarily going to drive anyone else to do it, and even if it would bleeping the word certainly isn't going to stop it. Meanwhile, isn't there evidence that mass violence does actually lead to more mass violence in the form of copy cats etc? So either way, it sounds like we should censor both or neither and I come down on neither because censorship is bad -- especially when we know its just to please corporate advertisers.
Wow, he actually found a female on Ashley Madisen? I thought this portal was full of bots that pretended to be female profiles. Chances of actually meeting one was like 1 in 1000.
I’m very pleasantly surprised to see true crime content from you! I’ve always loved your narrations and I’m hyperfixated on true crime so this makes me v happy
"rooted in pagan traditions," means the opposite of what you think.. they rejected pagan traditions like Christmas. I think you might have missed this on your proofread.
He is a sociopath through and through. Even at the end, able to sit there with a straight face and say someone who worked with his wife did it. Probably referring to the fake emails he sent her to try and get her to kill herself. A "man of God" without a soul. I should be shocked, but then I'm not that naïve.
Interviewer: Who did it? Prisoner: I know who did it... I think... and-- It's giving Shang: What's your name? Mulan: I have a name! And it's a boy's name, too!
After watching tons of true crime over the years, I realized that so many people are so uncomfortable with confronting their emotions and their consequences, they'd rather kill someone than have a conversation, regardless of the reason.
Yep. It's a lack of coping skills with their own mistakes and transgressions, subsequently withholding accountability. People have a version of themselves they hide, everyone does. Some people's are a lot worse than others. And society doesn't take kindly to those people, regardless of a confession. Sorry I'm blabbering, It's late lmao
He was stupid yes but as you've mentioned earlier in the video, he was also afraid of getting ostracized from his social environment because of the church's cult like rules about divorce. Churches like that are not without fault when they push people to be together when they don't want to anymore
Correction on the UCG. Likely he misread what the Wikipedia said, specifically this section, that he uses on the screen: "The UCG holds that the Roman Catholic church and most Protestant denominations today have mistakenly SYNCRETIZED various pagan doctrines and practices." The operative word being syncretized which basically means the UCG thinks Catholicism sucks because it used pagan imagery and ritual as an ad campaign to attract the heathens during its expansion.
The amount of times I've heard "deeply religious" or "went to church" as a way of trying to paint a murderer or rapist as a good person on the outside is beyond count at this point. Not only is it obviously completely meaningless as to what kind of person someone is, but when you consider how religious behaviour and religions all work, it's really MORE of a sign of being unstable, not less.
Gotta love the religious folks, ever the hypocrites. Divorce is bad but murder is okay? Hey I might not be a religious person, but wasn't murder like a sin? Against the will of god? Again religion leads to aggression, why are people worried about games when religion is taking more lives?
To be fair I don't think he was actually religious. I think he just wanted to keep his job and good standing in that community.... while also getting a new wife.
He he wasn't religious is he's a hypocrite. According to the bible people like him get called out all the time. And no a religion that tells people to not murder doesn't take innocent lives
This is almost the same thing that happened with Chris Watts. Instead of divorcing his wife, he just has an affair and plots his wife's murder so he could be with his mistress. Crazy.
the production value of this is pretty great. All the sounds and build up music and music transitions. Just the small things here and there. Deff sound great :D I was listening to some of your older stuff, and the difference is night and day. I dunno if you have an editor, or if you do it all in house, but either way this is really good stuff :D
That caught me too. Likely he misread what the Wikipedia said, specifically this section: "The UCG holds that the Roman Catholic church and most Protestant denominations today have mistakenly SYNCRETIZED various pagan doctrines and practices." The operative word being syncretized which basically means the UCG thinks Catholicism sucks because it used pagan imagery and ritual as an ad campaign to attract the heathens during its expansion.
This shit is so distressing, and the solution to divorce is so much simpler. Even if you're a couples counsellor, surely you can admit that sometimes relationships just won't work out?
@SharmV it's giving me trust issues, like, she did nothing to deserve this, gave him children, and he's just mad that she's self- sufficient? He wasn't forced to marry her, he made his bed and then decided to shit in it.
So he felt she was spending too little time with the family? Did he even bother talking to her and asking for her to just spend some more time with them!?
I'm watching, super immersed and then some background music comes on that snapped me out of it. It was the music to an IOS game I used to play called Elder Sign: Omens. Jesus it took me back. Anyways, back to immersion...
So the FBI knew that the victim had "hits" put out on her meaning that someone wanted her dead; and yet they didn't think to find out who wanted to "remove" her. Just because the hitman was a scam doesn't stop this psycho from ending her; clearly as she is the victim. GJ.
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Gotta give him props for coming up with an anonymous username like DogDayGod
No way that could be linked to a religious leader with a wife that takes care of dogs during the day
lol
The ultimate red herring..... Wait
nah i’m sure he jus played poppy playtime during the day
I kept thinking "He must really like the movie Dog Day Afternoon." I'm such an idiot!
Yes, you're talking about the same police force that has a track record with raiding wrong addresses on the regular. 🙄
I hope he did not hire the same Hitman three time for the same target... because that's not a Hitman that's a Missman
😂. 🏅
More like a conman
Lame. Comedy fail.
Orrr maybe not a hitman, but a con man, which is the best and only kind of man in this story. Because Stevens clearly far from a man. So happy he got got during his dumbass grand dense plan to have his innocent wife get got. not cool, man. What a jerk off.
the Missman is RanEncounter in the comments who insulted me for insulting the guy
I'm shocked that someone actually met a real woman using Ashley Madison.
I dunno, I'm suspicious as to if she truly was real 😂
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley I feel like a cool thing to do is to get on Ashley, meet guys for the sole purpose of getting information about them, finding out who their wife is by having a friend on standby follow them home, and then well free them up and allow the wife to go find someone who actually likes her and allow him to find someone under honest circumstances instead of Ashley Madison.
Oh it was real tons of people got caught and divorced because of that site 😂 politicians and shit . Was a big story lol
@@vanesslifeygo they got hacked and all data put on the net. you're a bit late. that aside i wonder what makes you the overseer of other people's lifes.
@@vanesslifeygoWow you are just as crazy if you really think you are serving justice this way.
Asking the "mafia" for a refund. How naive can someone get?
I know - the mafia only do exchanges.
No refunds.
lol
a rather nice manner of saying insanely stupid lol.
Especially without a receipt.
@@tillitsdone I hear some can bring the receipt back up if you give them your bitcoin wallet address.
The absolute gall to try to request a refund from someone you think is a killer
To be fair, they did offer a refund a couple times 😅
Listening to his son in the recording was one of the most upsetting things one ever had to hear. I was extremely hurt and heartbroken thinking of my own sons and how they can be when I'm gone for just a day. The fact he allowed his son to go through that read the epitome of evil. Sick nasty man.
Yeah I’m not like a “trigger warning” guy but damn I was not ready for that. Could have just read a transcript.
Fuck that was horrible, it hurt my heart so much.
He himself also doesn't sound distraught at all. Instead he's very calm and even laughs when the kid asks if he's going to re-marry. If that isn't a big red flag...
exactly what i was thinking. killing someone on its own is horrible enough, but to make his son look at his own mother like that? ive seen people die, and it's something that haunts you for the rest of your life. imagine seeing your own mother like that. i truly hope god is real if only so this man gets what he deserves in hell.
It’s such a vile thing to do to a child - he took his mum, and will now spend the rest of his life in jail depriving him of parents.
This lad was adopted too, which I think makes it worse.
I hope he’s doing ok.
How horrible, what a selfish man. Robbing her of all her life’s possibilities and then making her son part of the alibi and forever changing his life. May he never see freedom again.
They should lock him up without food and water and tell him "If god is real, he will provide".
@@Jorendo Nah, don't tell him "if god is real" - just tell him "If god still loves and forgives you", hurts way more.
@@Jorendoif she went without food this might not have happened
I can't believe hitmen are so untrustworthy - what's the World coming to when you can't get a hitman to stick to his word?
I know right, you'd expect a dark web market to be as legit as the local 711 lol. It happens all the time no matter what your buying on the darkweb, most of those markets exit scam at the end too, I've even heard of one market threating to doc all their customers and vendors if they didn't pay 20-50k
Well to be fair most are probably just ppl with the intent to rip ppl off.
What are you gonna do?
Go to the police? 😂
@@diy_mushroomguy Right I just can't believe anyone would fall for a Darkweb Hitman even with the Reddit users saying they are legit lol. To think this idiot gave them 12k for nothing. I would like to see one of these idiots goto the police and tell them he got scammed hiring a hitman
It's a rotten world we're living in, no honour.
It deserves a strong letter of complaint.
If his faith is so unimportant that he's happy to have her killed or kill her himself, why was divorce off the table?
as stated in the video it was about his reputation, not his faith
@@UoooooooooooohIt's kind of both. He would've likely preferred to have been a grieving husband in his circles rather than a divorcing one, because of people of faith tend to look down on divorce.
In faith circles, murder may be looked down upon but the husband's ownership and power over the wife is revered. Despite the obvious contradiction, his emphasis on his faith makes sense in terms of how women are viewed as property in the Bible. People of faith like him tend to believe that since the husband has complete authority over his wife, that also includes her very life. I see this sentiment a lot in Catholic circles governed by abusive people.
We also can't deny it was about his reputation. Who wants to be the guy who had an affair and got a divorce? So, it was likely a potpurry of reasons.
Not his faith at all, his position of power inside the organization, his community, being looked up upon.. sadly many people inside churches don't care about faith at all
Status.
We had a similar situation in Knutby here in Sweden. Pentecostal cult leader killed his wife and had another badly injured by manipulating his cult followers. He couldn't divorce or break up because that would be looked unfavorably upon.
I feel worst for the kid. To lose both his parents in a seeming instant. That's tragic.
Better for him tbh, he doesn't need a psychopath raising him. I hope he's okay and in therapy now 🙏
The 911 call is disturbing. How can put your own child through that? Get him out of the house you demon.
@@Volgotha But, the psychopathy is still in his DNA. Certainly, his mother would've been important in his development, and it is sad to lose both of your parents in an instant. A nine-year-old that's already been adopted and survived that abandonment trauma, now has more abandonment trauma because both of the parents that raised him are dead. Psychopath or not this kid has no parents.
Oh yeah, right? To lose your mom to a supposed suicide, and then to find out your dad killed her? That was awful.
@@southphillylilly he was adopted
$12k for three hit attempts? I'm not experienced in hiring hits, but that seems weirdly low. Like, "we have agent 47 at home" low. Bro was ready to keep throwing money at great value assassins
The worst part is that now the bitcoins he spent is nearly worth a million
😂😂😂😂
@@dominioneno8978nah like 100k
Oh yeah, that hitman had to be either an idiot or deliberately fumbling. I don't read Soldier Of Fortune or anything, but based on all the other spouse-hires-hitman stories I've heard, just one hit would be tens of thousands of dollars.
(I mean, unless you're intentionally hiring novice hitmen, which I guess is possible too.)
i've seen a (real) case where a guy hired a hit on his wife and the full price was like 30k if i'm not mistaken. the hitmen "subcontracted" someone to help him for like.... 2k.
so you never know
(but they weren't "mafia", just dudes)
It's interesting how he felt he needed to commit a horrible sin to save face in church lol
I mean... he also feels the need to act like one of the coworkers set him up despite the fact that everything straight up pointed right to him without any singular doubt.
That guy is fully delusional no doubt.
Religious guilt and shame is a hell of a drug my dude. There are a lot of stories that are just as wild as this because the deeper you go into religion, the harder it is imagine yourself *not* being part of that community. I read/listened to one story of a girl who was thrown by her hyper religious family into a literal blizzard in her pajamas because she got outed as LGBT by her little brother. If she hadn't had a burner phone on her person at the time she'd have frozen to death under her family's porch. Those parents were so toked up on their standing and image in the church that they couldn't fathom losing an ounce of that position for having a 'sinful child' that they didn't bother to think of what everyone around them ( including that church ) would think of actual child murder.
Its a cult. You can't lose face in a cult, because if they don't close ranks to protect you, you are persona non grata in the community. You've only ever KNOWN this community because you were told all your life that outsiders are BAD and should be shunned (unless you're recruiting them). Now your boss, your coworkers, your kids teacher, your bartender, and even your family and friends are not talking to you and hinting you should leave town. You're the outsider and without any of the supports you received because you were a big dog in cultland. To narcissists (who always like to shit where they eat) murder seems like an awfully easy workaround in comparison to owning up and facing the consequences.
@@gearsoverdusk7303 Well said religions teach that many kinds of people are less than human, sounds about right. One i heard: it is ok to abuse and kill animals (pets) cause they have no souls.
@@gearsoverdusk7303
At certain point they forget it was supposed be all about pleasing their God(s)
He couldn't really believe that God would damn you for a divorce and an affair but not murder
It's always the most devout on the surface that are the most rotten on the inside
Which is why, they have to polish themselves harder to cover up the tarnish.
These last 2 lines of your comment are poetic as fuck 😅
Seems to me will of the god was never the issue, his concern was obviously his status in that social circle.
It's not always that the most devout are the most rotten. That's just the plot of every TV show you've seen. You misunderstood the video - he didn't want to lose his standing in the church by divorcing his wife.
Tbh that is the mindset a lot white people have. Living in bubbles until u die 😂
That "mafia infographic" is fucking hilarious
"The best way to identify a leo is by asking for his or her birhdate" lmao redditors being useful as always, glad to see some things don't change
That was trolling, why would you help that asshole.
That made me laugh too
Better off asking 4chan
Was gonna comment on that, A+ response.
The ultimate projectionist. "Amy doesnt spend time with the family"
Bro you're having an affair...
I get what you mean, but he said that he started having an affair *because* she didn't spend enough time with the family. For some reason he felt alone and that's why the affair happened.
@@cassiohenrique6815"he felt alone and that's why the affair started".
That's what literally all of them say, don't trust the basic excuse.
@@kempolar9768 Who died and made you the weaver of fate? You don't know any of this.
@@ViddyOJames do I know this particular situation? You are correct that I do not.
However these kinds of situations have popped up everywhere throughout history and have been rigorously studied from all kinds of perspectives. So to put it to a simple phrase, "we've seen this before".
@@kempolar9768and the dude literally killed his wife lol why would anyone believe a word he says?
Dude, hearing that kid over the 911 call... My soul hurts and I think it'll give me nightmares. To be able to do that to the kids mom and then knowingly bring them home and letting them be there to be part of his alibi. Disgusting.
And this is why its so important that divorce remain legal and accessible because the favored alternative is not, in fact, for people to work on their relationships
Geez to let his child see the body and all the blood. That’s psychopathic
He can’t spit out the name…. Because he has no name to give.
He let his desperation take him for a ride. And has given up any hope of being with his new ‘Mistress’ as a result…
“No undercover cops here.”
Ah, yes. I trust that completely.
"Hello fellow criminal, would you like to buy a weed?"
"Sir, your fake mustache is in your cheek"
Sounds believable to me
@@MediadosI’ll take two marijuanas please.
Seems legit
Amy stood by him and was punished for it, for holding things together, for being someone to be relied on. To me every part of Amy seems to exude positivity. He deserves the harshest of punishments. This case really got to me. Also, could this murder have been prevented, with the local police knowing about it for some time. Poor adoptive son. I wish him and her other loved ones all the best, the strength to get through a life without parents (the adoptive father being the mother's murderer,) relative, friend.
Apparently, her "crime" was... doing everything he claimed to stand for and that she lived by. Her husband was so depraved he cared about his appearance and reputation more than her life (and heaven forbid appreciating her loyalty, I guess), while pushing others to live by what he was unwilling and unable to. That he still claims he is innocent with all of that evidence pointing at him makes me wonder what other lies he told her and everyone around them throughout his life. And that his poor child asked if he'd re-marry mere minutes after learning his mom was dead makes me wonder how fucked of a household he made it for his kids.
Wow. I can't imagine spending my days with someone whilst plotting this in the evenings...
Say what you want about Steve, he was excellent at time management!
not once, not twice but thrice!
read this in Mr. Burns voice
f this guy for having his son there to see her mom’s corpse
Hang on, the cops had contacted her about this? So they knew someone was trying to kill her? and its well known that most murders are committed by spouses or someone else close to the victim. Why the hell werent they already on this guy? 'No immediate danger'? What are you talking about! Just because the site the attempted murderer is trying to use is fake doesnt mean their intentions and alternatives will be! Thats nuts. Just complete incompetence.
The more one looks into them, the more one finds that competence (of the kind that helps people) often gets pushed out of police agencies, if it was ever allowed to be hired to begin with. Which sucks, because the kind of people you'd want to be cops end up not lasting long in a lot of districts.
@xtieburn The comment I started scrolling for. Thank you!
@@sunkruhmhalaci2592tell me you know nothing about being a cop without telling me you know nothing about being a cop
"yeah ma'am we got a report that your name is on a website, so we are just gonna arrest your husband on no evidence Mmk?" yeah thats recipe for a department being sued and officers losing their jobs
Because with that mentality we would be.....arresting everyone for everything based on "oh well they are close to the guy, must be them" there's this little thing called *evidence* that one needs to start watching someone or arresting them
@@nicholasbrown668 Arresting is not the only solution/ preventative measure out there.
the horrific medieval punishment for adultery: 1) Can't be pastor. 2) *May* be asked to leave the congregation.
that 911 call with his kid in the background made my jaw drop. what a gargantuan pos
Rest in peace, Amy. You deserved so much better in life.
I find it fascinating that they have to silence out "suicide" but not "murder". What a psychotic system we have.
I agree, but maybe the murder one is because it also means something else? So a bot would glance over it probably but not suicide. I think any serious matter should be talked about without having to censor words relating to it. It kinda feels disrespectful to me
Thank your JooTube overlords
It’s probably because suicide is contagious and murder isn’t
@lateformyownbirth I dont think that is true either way you cut it. Hearing about suicide in a video is not necessarily going to drive anyone else to do it, and even if it would bleeping the word certainly isn't going to stop it. Meanwhile, isn't there evidence that mass violence does actually lead to more mass violence in the form of copy cats etc? So either way, it sounds like we should censor both or neither and I come down on neither because censorship is bad -- especially when we know its just to please corporate advertisers.
gotta love this hellsite and its miniature hays code
All that money when he could have just switched to a different church that allowed divorce.
No Christian church allows for divorce. All he cares about is reputation
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Kills his child's mother. What a POS.
" active member of his church... Deeply religious... You just know awful evil behaviour is coming.
Wow, he actually found a female on Ashley Madisen? I thought this portal was full of bots that pretended to be female profiles. Chances of actually meeting one was like 1 in 1000.
I mean just because their are female's online, doesn't not not make it a scam? 😅 He was probably being double 🤜🤛scammed online by both of them. 🤣
Referring to women as "a female" is a very redditor behaviour.
@@PrimroseParadoxnormally yes but when it comes to Ashley Madison it's kinda an inside joke I've started to notice. Females vs fembots.
@@kempolar9768 oh, I didn't know that
Apparently there's statistics that said that real women were far more likely to join the site after Valentine's Day
The 911 call is insane. The son asking if it’s gonna remarry & the dad saying “idk”…: just wow.
I’m very pleasantly surprised to see true crime content from you! I’ve always loved your narrations and I’m hyperfixated on true crime so this makes me v happy
-that answer on 'how to identify a Leo' hahaha made my day for some reason :D
He's like one of those kids that gets caught in a lie and just keeps going with the lie despite everyone knowing the truth. So annoying.
You should do more true crime stuff! You are a great story teller for it! Loved the video!
"rooted in pagan traditions," means the opposite of what you think.. they rejected pagan traditions like Christmas. I think you might have missed this on your proofread.
Christmas isn't a pagan tradition secular Christmas is
A preacher, how original
He's a fraud
Whst gets me is that he was scared for his reputation...but murder, which I'm also sure is against doctrine, on his conscience.
Cult ostracizes divorces but not killings 😂
did he try to do this publicly?
I mean his plan was obviously that no one would _know_ he was involved
@@char1211 he would know. If you really are believer that should be enough. Like...in theory.
@@kalinmir looks pretty public. More public than divorce I say.
@@ann3923 then he likely wasnt all that into it was he?
God damn, that 911 call is Hell.
I've already watched another video about this. However, I enjoyed the way you told the story in your own unique way.
The callousness of the 911 call is all the evidence I need… he couldn’t even pretend to care
He is a sociopath through and through. Even at the end, able to sit there with a straight face and say someone who worked with his wife did it. Probably referring to the fake emails he sent her to try and get her to kill herself. A "man of God" without a soul. I should be shocked, but then I'm not that naïve.
Kira- whenever you upload mate, I smile. Keep on going, I'll be right behind rooting for ya.
This is awesome work Kira keep up with the amazing work ❤
The poor son, it's devastating to hear him crying
Interviewer: Who did it?
Prisoner: I know who did it... I think... and--
It's giving
Shang: What's your name?
Mulan: I have a name! And it's a boy's name, too!
After watching tons of true crime over the years, I realized that so many people are so uncomfortable with confronting their emotions and their consequences, they'd rather kill someone than have a conversation, regardless of the reason.
Yep. It's a lack of coping skills with their own mistakes and transgressions, subsequently withholding accountability.
People have a version of themselves they hide, everyone does. Some people's are a lot worse than others. And society doesn't take kindly to those people, regardless of a confession.
Sorry I'm blabbering, It's late lmao
He was stupid yes but as you've mentioned earlier in the video, he was also afraid of getting ostracized from his social environment because of the church's cult like rules about divorce. Churches like that are not without fault when they push people to be together when they don't want to anymore
The Church doesn't have cult like rules. Second your required to stay with each other because its a life long commitment
Correction on the UCG. Likely he misread what the Wikipedia said, specifically this section, that he uses on the screen:
"The UCG holds that the Roman Catholic church and most Protestant denominations today have mistakenly SYNCRETIZED various pagan doctrines and practices."
The operative word being syncretized which basically means the UCG thinks Catholicism sucks because it used pagan imagery and ritual as an ad campaign to attract the heathens during its expansion.
Thank you Kira. o7 Absolute banger content as always
i like the way u tell stories my man subscribed keep it up❤🔥🔥
The amount of times I've heard "deeply religious" or "went to church" as a way of trying to paint a murderer or rapist as a good person on the outside is beyond count at this point. Not only is it obviously completely meaningless as to what kind of person someone is, but when you consider how religious behaviour and religions all work, it's really MORE of a sign of being unstable, not less.
Nowadays those terms are just as likely to mean that they have a double life. The more sanctimonious they are, the farther they fall.
Wrong in a religion you require self control and discipline
this made me feel sick to my stomach
That poor baby boy...
Good work Kira. Enjoying the content
4:28 somewhat significant video mistake:
Highlighted text says "rejected [...] pagan influence," while narration claims the opposite.
Really good video, interesting story and excellent presentation
Nooooo not the Minnesota jumpscare 😭 Crazy how I live in Minneapolis and never heard about this until now
How was she “not in immediate danger” prior to the murder like the police said? They literally told her that someone wants her killed.
I think you misread that bit about pagan traditions. They reject christmas because it has roots in pagan traditions. The church didn't
Reading the emails seems like I'm reading a bad and cheesy crime novel.
Gotta love the religious folks, ever the hypocrites. Divorce is bad but murder is okay? Hey I might not be a religious person, but wasn't murder like a sin? Against the will of god? Again religion leads to aggression, why are people worried about games when religion is taking more lives?
To be fair I don't think he was actually religious. I think he just wanted to keep his job and good standing in that community.... while also getting a new wife.
Lol the religion also says thou shalt not kill, so I'm guessing he wasn't a "religious folk".
He he wasn't religious is he's a hypocrite. According to the bible people like him get called out all the time. And no a religion that tells people to not murder doesn't take innocent lives
@@abiolaakorede1509 tell that to the milions that have been killed in the name of Christianity lmao
Soooo, the FBI could have stopped this tragedy? Wow, her family should sue the govt!!!!
New sub here, from South Florida, awesome reporting. Thanks...
Lots of wolves in sheep's clothing on Earth. The devil doesn't come as himself. He is a master of disguise..
“How’s it going baby?’
“Not bad just writing some emails"
This is almost the same thing that happened with Chris Watts. Instead of divorcing his wife, he just has an affair and plots his wife's murder so he could be with his mistress. Crazy.
"deeply religious, loving," yeah, that's not how that works. you can't be A and Not A at the same time.
I live about an hour away from where this happened. I remember how crazy this whole story was as it was coming out.
dude really said fine ill do it myself
".... an active member of his church"
Well, there's the first red flag, and we aren't even 30 seconds into the video
I hope the fact he was indifferent to the death of her companion got him another attempted murder charge and a consecutive sentence
the production value of this is pretty great. All the sounds and build up music and music transitions. Just the small things here and there. Deff sound great :D I was listening to some of your older stuff, and the difference is night and day. I dunno if you have an editor, or if you do it all in house, but either way this is really good stuff :D
The dangers of fundamentalist versions of religions
1:33 "strict religious community".... Yeah nothing good ever comes from those, ask me how i know
Kira released a video about someone doing bad things on the dark web. This friday is saved boys.
I thought Christmas was pagan in its roots, but this video makes a bizarre claim where rejecting Christmas is Pagan.
That caught me too. Likely he misread what the Wikipedia said, specifically this section:
"The UCG holds that the Roman Catholic church and most Protestant denominations today have mistakenly SYNCRETIZED various pagan doctrines and practices."
The operative word being syncretized which basically means the UCG thinks Catholicism sucks because it used pagan imagery and ritual as an ad campaign to attract the heathens during its expansion.
Love your videos, Kira :)
This shit is so distressing, and the solution to divorce is so much simpler. Even if you're a couples counsellor, surely you can admit that sometimes relationships just won't work out?
Bruh the dad is emotionless that whole phone call, bruhhhhhhh if that’s my wife I would be cryingggggg
@SharmV it's giving me trust issues, like, she did nothing to deserve this, gave him children, and he's just mad that she's self- sufficient? He wasn't forced to marry her, he made his bed and then decided to shit in it.
@@imogenx9145no divorce is never an option unless you are a victim of abuse or adultery.
The FBI told her she was in no immediate danger when her husband was trying to get her killed like?
Shows the competence of most federal agents
Allwine.... wine made of crappy ingredients like jealousy, greed, stupidity and idiotic religiousness.
new Kira TV video lets gooo
Watching theses always makes you think how many other assassinations like this go undetected or unsolved
Who in they right mind think you can go on Tor and order a hitman for 5k😂
So he felt she was spending too little time with the family? Did he even bother talking to her and asking for her to just spend some more time with them!?
Another great piece. Thanks
I'm watching, super immersed and then some background music comes on that snapped me out of it. It was the music to an IOS game I used to play called Elder Sign: Omens. Jesus it took me back. Anyways, back to immersion...
Love your videos. You are a very good storyteller.
His religious reputation mattered more than family? He didn't even care about the sin of adultery and murder, wow!!
Gotta hand it to Reddit man. He asked how to identify LEOs (law enforcement officers) and got a detailed response about astrological signs.
So the FBI knew that the victim had "hits" put out on her meaning that someone wanted her dead; and yet they didn't think to find out who wanted to "remove" her. Just because the hitman was a scam doesn't stop this psycho from ending her; clearly as she is the victim. GJ.
Allwine is definitely the man he appeared to be. Dude gives off heavy serial killer vibes when you look at him.
Editing on point. Lots of work!
Remorseless selfish monster...