Two comments: First: You were fair in your comparisons. You didn't downplay the Deere's shortfall when the Kubota did better, nor did you overstate the Deere's superiority when the Deere did better. You just let the results speak for themselves. Second: Get a double wall oven.
Tim, as someone looking to buy their very first tractor without any real life experience using a tractor, I very much appreciated every video in this series as it gave me practical, real life comparisons that I can use to evaluate tractors and find what meets my needs at lowest cost. You and your wife did a great job! TY!
Dear Tractor “greazer” Tim and Christy- This series has been the best,and fairest, I have ever seen. I can imagine the stress involved dealing with people who love a particular color machine. More important is the demonstration of what Integrity looks like, and your presentations have been a pleasure to watch. As for the new oven..... as finance committee person, Christy, just stamp the request “Approved”! God bless you both!
Tim and Christy, this was an extremely useful and fair comparison. I can hear the frustration in your voice due to the hateful comments, but rest assured you have helped countless people make a more educated decision when purchasing what is probably their first tractor. I thoroughly enjoyed this series and learned a great deal about both tractors. Thank you for all the time you spent in making this series.
Seems that the whole series was as fair as you could have made it, well done. I bought a JD 755 brand new in 1989 and still have it and use it several times a week. Enough said!
I also have an 89 JD 755. I inherited it from my uncle....he had good taste. I love this tractor! Perfect size 4x4 with loader is awesome! Wish I had a number 7 backhoe though.
💥 Tim and Christy, you two did an EXCELLENT job comparing these two tractors. I think each has their own strengths and I hope that manufacturers see this and begin to enhance each brand as it benefits all of us as the consumer. I now have an idea of what the perfect sub compact should look like as it would be a combination of the JD and Kubota strengths. 👍 KEEP ON TRACTORING!!!
This was a fantastic series. I just had my BX23S delivered three days ago, You could say I am/was middle of the fence on which one to purchase. Your comment in the first episode was what made my decision, even though I had not watched this series. The "salesman" (Messick's Dealer) made my decision to go with the Kubota. I had actually decided on the JD, but I went to two different local dealers in my area and both dealer salesnmen seemed to not care whether I bought or not. I ask a lot of questions, especially when I have a no knowledge of a product. My dad had a JD (midsize) when I grew up so I know what a backhoe is about. However, for me, purchasing the backhoe was probably 50% want than need, The Kubota salesman was enthusiastic from the get go. He answered my questions very similar to your series without bias on the practicality of what I was to purchase and comparison to the JD. I spent about 14 months back and forth with the Kubota dealer before purchasing, Now, your series would not have made a difference in my decision product wise, but it did reenforce my confidence in my decision for purchasing the Kubota in that choosing either one was a good choice.
FWIW, I found you after hours and hours of RUclips searching on what my "new" tractor is going to be. I hadn't even considered John Deere based on 'talk' I've heard in the past, but after watching your videos, I'm visiting my local JD dealer tomorrow. Looking at the 1025R TLB or the 2025R TLB. Thank you for an actual review worth watching. Honestly, you should continue this line of "work" and bring real tests and results to the consumers. Trying to decipher dealer literature is quite difficult. Your real world approach is both refreshing and trustworthy. I have a feeling you have saved me future heartache on a tractor I would not have ultimately found happiness with.
As a first time tractor buyer, I watched all of your videos and tried to ignore the grand standing and mocking of the Kubota. ( Honestly, for all of your "trying to be impartial," it was kind of sophomoric ) However, I saw your videos and thought, "Well, I guess the 1025R is better if it is only $1000 more.
@@kevinkirk6442 I'm currently looking right now at wm25s, kubota b23s as its the only one with BH and the 1025r with Fel and BH. I haven't been to John Deere yet but both new holland and kubota matched prices and I betcha Deere will match in this class as well. So do your research and let the dealers compete for you business. Right now as long as deere doesn't do something stupid like say we cant match other companies when i talk to them next week, they will get my money.
Maybe fair but still feels apples to oranges. The b series is a comparable machine capabilities wise just isn’t classified as subcompact. Classification doesn’t matter just capabilities and the price to get it.
Although I don’t know you personally, I feel like I do, as you are genuine folks and well-grounded in your faith. And, your testimony to that in each episode is reflective of your values. You folks did a superb job on the comparison. My first sub-compact was a Kubota B6100 HST which served me well for over 17 years, and continues to serve the folks I sold it to. I have since had a Deere 4610 for over 16 years and recently to a 4052R. All of them served well with no major issues at all. As you clearly pointed out, they are both excellent machines and could serve anyone well based on personal preferences. I share in your dismay over those who choose to judge your fairness harshly. Please know that ‘reasonable’ folks appreciate your efforts. “Well done good and faithful servant(s)” Blessings to you all!
Awesome series Tim! Fair & honest review of each tractor. I own a 1025r & my neighbor has a BX. I can tell you they are both excellent tractors. We both use the tractors to mow, landscape, and clear snow in the winter, we both love our tractors & know we can depend on them. I think these size tractors are just the right size, not too big, and not too small for lots of tasks. I’m certain that anyone who purchases either one of these tractors will really enjoy having it for many years. Just thought I would also mention winter snow removal, and the way my neighbor & I take care of that. On his Bx, he uses the loader and a rear blade, that works well. I use a plow same as the one Tim has with the edge protector & the hard rubber 6” wings on the sides. While I’m at it here's some things on my wish list😊 Mauser Cab, Bagger, Sweeper, Forks, LED light kit, & a toothbar. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for Christmas but my wife would disagree. Thanks for reading all this, my advise to anyone out there looking for a subcompact tractor is simply: Go get one! I know it’s $15K (+) but you only live once, you will be glad you got it every single time you go outside & start it up😊
I am a novice and have been investigating these two tractors and would never have understood the differences as clearly and thoroughly as you have done. Thank you
This is by far the most objective, unbiased comparison I've ever seen online in the Orange/Green wars. Ultimately, it comes down to this: Despite what many people want to hear, one is not "great" while the other is "terrible." Both are really well-matched, capable machines, and I feel that IF these tractors are appropriate for the type of work that you need to do, then a buyer would be very happy with either choice. Thanks, Tim and family. I was happy to find your channel and look forward to more of your content.
Chin up. You did a great job. I concluded the same as you in that there wasn’t a lot of unbiased comparison information. This video would have helped me a lot 4 years ago in saving time. Still this was confirmation in my decision 4 years ago and I am still satisfied. Thank you.
You did a great job keeping bias out of your testing in this series and I'm sure many folks in the future will use these videos to help evaluate before their purchases. I hope you know when I was shopping for my 1025r a few years ago that your videos really opened my eyes on the possible tasks the machine could accomplish. God bless you and your family!
Thank you for all the time you spent on this comparison. I own a Kubota Grand L6060 and feel you were fair and thorough in your analysis. They are both great machines from great companies. There are always going to be negative people-please don’t let their comments get you down. You did a great job and I greatly appreciate all your effort!
Tim, I've watched your channel from the beginning, and ended up getting an Johnny inspired Johnny. I've stayed out of the comments because they can be frustrating to read even as a viewer, but this episode compelled me to make my first comment - you two are amazing. This has been the most unbiased review I've seen, and I'm sad to see the joy taken out of you based on others comments. Don't lose the joy, and keep up the clean, honest, Christian work. I love it!
@@TractorTimewithTim You two are a blessing for us all in search of a honest, compassionate review of these tractors. so sad there are so many haters on social media. I thank you both for all your time and efforts to make these videos . means alot to have you both for me to watch and learn from . Thanks every day !!
OMG DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS, I DO BELIEVE THAT YOUR REVIEW IS MORE THAN FAIR BASED ON THE OTHER REVIEWS THAT I HAVE SEEN, SOME OF WITCH YOU HAVE MENTIONED, I OWN BOTH JD AND KUBOTA MACHINES OF VARIOUS SIZES AND LOVE THEM BOTH. YOU ALL HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH YOUR RESEARCH AND REVIEWS AND GOD BLESS ,NOW GET BACK TO THE REAL WORK, KICK THE TIRES AND LIGHT THE FIRES, LET'S SEE SOME TRACTOR WORK!!!!!! LOL
Thanks for doing a great job on the comparisons of these two heavyweights. Way too much emphasis is placed on the “plastic tractor hood” I for one am glad I went green. I have bounced numerous chunks of firewood off the hood of my 1025R and NO DENTS to repair. No cracks either. Love the twin touch pedals, being in the forklift industry the location is the same as the monotrol pedal. Treadle pedals are just not that natural. My brother has orange and loves it. Good for him. He has very different requirements for his Kubota as do I for my 1025R. Most of the comparison videos I have seen try to push potential Byers to one brand or another. People just need to ask themselves why are they buying a SCUT to begin with? Does this tractor or that one fit my needs better? Buying one over the other simply on price and or reputation is just foolish, in my opinion. Thanks again for the series. And remember Happy Wife= Happy Life. Get the oven my friend.
This series will become *the* benchmark RUclips videos for those who need to know the real differences between these two models. I have had my 1025R TLB for about a month now, and I use whatever capability it delivers. I'm building a 60 foot retaining wall into a hillside that had lots of stumps from shrubs and small tress. I'm pretty sure I could do what I need with either tractor, but I sure to appreciate whatever strength the 1025R delivers. Nothing you have said turned me off from the Kubota, but if I went that way, I would likely jump up to the B series. It would be great if someone could help you move some dirt at your church with a Kubota B series, since many people who watch these videos and see the BX to be a bit weaker will wonder if the B would meet their needs. Thanks so much for your contribution to the community, and for staying true to your faith!
I wanted to say thank you for doing this series of comparisons. I've watched every one because I'm in the marked for a sub-compact and these are two of the options I've been researching. Again, thank you for the detailed info, demonstrations and honest feedback. You've made it much easier for me to chose the right machine for what I need to do.
Don’t let anyone limit your speech. And I own a mahindra 1530 and I think you done a very fair test between both tractors. Keep up the great things you do Tim.
Great job. I own a BX23S for starters. Having said that I thoroughly enjoyed the series and felt you kept an open mind through out. It’s important information that did not exist when I purchased and would have appreciated having. I have been more than satisfied with my purchase and continue to learn through your (and Christys) efforts as well as other contributors. In regards to the oven it is quite apparent your appreciation for fine dining and food in general so I know you are only kidding about the oven. Remember the Holidays are coming and those big meals will require new toys.
Tim after watching the comparison videos, I went out and bought a 2021 1025r traded my 2020 X590 got the 120r loader and 54 auto connect deck love it !
Niel, would you say this is the most closely matched Kubota (understanding Tim's comment about people often comparing these two and the reason for doing it)? Or is it a situation where the JD falls between two Kubota models?
@@eddiepit First I would say most people have some preference for the place they live. Its success usually means their success in broad terms. National pride. I would also say everyone wants good quality, and many of the eastern countries don't reliably produce it. So I wouldn't read it as bias against the the east in general, but against bad quality. Japan used to be the country producing the poor quality, and they quickly transitioned to one known for high quality. Korea is making their transition pretty quickly too. The US did the same in the 1800s. India and China are hit and miss currently, but due to the large numbers of people, will probably take 40years to make that same transition.
Tim i have watched a ton of your videos on equipment and you do such a grounded series of comments on the equipment that people should listen to you as you are very helpful for most people to work out any problems they might have choosing a tractor to fit all your needs i have three and one excavator that i use they have served me well over the years . Your channel is one of my most favorite of all. Good content and very little bs always works for me.
What you have done is incredibly useful for so many people. We can all watch biased reviews and try to decipher reality or spend 10 minutes driving around the yard at the dealer, but you really don’t know what you got into until the first time it gets put to work. You have put the information out in a way that truly shows the strengths to either machine. As an engineer there is a ton of different ways to do load/strength tests, I may have done some differently, but don’t let the haters get you down, you did excellent job showing what both machines are capable of! God bless!
Heavy equipment mechanic here. Yanmar makes the simplest, easiest and arguably the most reliable small Diesel engines on earth, they really are idiot proof. Any air cooled deutz is also extremely reliable.
I have struggled and spent more time than I’ve wanted to, going back and forth on these two brands. I’ve been using “gray” market tractors that my grandfather wanted to sell such as Yanmar and Mitsubishi. They are a pain in the you know what due to accessibility getting on and off, manual transmissions, no live power, etc. You get what you pay for. Your videos have been fantastic. I cannot stress how helpful you and your family have been comparing the two. I was really vague as to how they worked and how their mowers for instance hooked up. Not only were these videos great for comparison, they were in essence, great training videos which I think both manufacturers owe you for that! DO NOT pay any attention to any of the hateful comments. I’d like to challenge those haters to step up and do what you have done better! I felt you have really gone above and beyond trying to show why and how these machines have their good and bad limitations. I agree on your decision using these two brands. I live in an area that have all kinds of brand dealerships. JD, Kubota, Massey, Kioti, New Holland, Mahindra, etc. I test drove a New Holland tractor (don’t remember the size number but it was close to the 25 hp range), and felt it was cheaply made. You all have done a great service in showing what to look for in all compact tractors! Thank you so much for putting these videos together! You made them fun to watch and your family is awesome! Your a guy I could hang out and talk tractors all day with! Hope to see more videos and ignore the haters and BS comments. Some people are terrible human beings and love to bring others down!
There has always and will always be brand specific people. It's been going on for ever, Ford verse Chevy, red verse green, mules verse horses. It will never change, but you have done a great job at the comparison of these two units. Thank you for the job well done 👍👍👍👍✌️✌️
We have a 2010 BX25 TLB with 1200 hrs.. we are the original owners. it has been a fantastic tractor and has never given us an ounce of trouble, it does have some limitations but as do all the compacts. Thanks TTWT for taking the time to do these reviews! They really do help because we were actually looking at a 1series Deere.
How's she goin'? Just want to say I think you both have put an extreme amount of work and energy into this comparison series and I think you did a great job. Whether or not you are pro Deere, it really didn't matter to me ( a Massey Ferguson guy) because your tests were done fair and straight forward so that the results spoke for themselves. I am glad you took on this task and I think you results are terrific. Thanks for your vids folks, you are an aid to the sub-compact community!!!!
Few years afterwards,but thank you for your time and "middle of the road " comparison of the two tractors. a person like myself who does not know a whole lot about them and sees a near future purchase of a tractor of this size. Your honest review I found to be very helpful for me to educate myself to make a better decision. Thank you.
Something I especially like regarding the gas gage on the JD is that you are able to read it while filling your fuel and it does it without needing the ignition on. It's especially helpful since using a fuel funnel blocks the way of seeing the fuel rising up. It's right there in full view while filling. Simple yet brilliant.
Tim! Don't stop doing the comparisons! Loved this one. I have a 2019 bx2380 and I saw nothing on your comparison I thought was bias. You know the 1025 better but you have had two of them so experience on a certain tractor helps too. Keep it going, ignore the haters. Please!!
Hi Tim. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot of us out here who remain quiet but are thoroughly blown away with all you guys do. You are having a truly positive influence on this special community of small tractor enthusiasts. So thank you, thank you, thank you (and get her the oven :).
Please become the Consumer Reports of tractors! Ignore the haters, they are always going to be out there and they are never going to be objective anyhow. This series was very informative to me as a first time tractor buyer. You've shown what both tractors are about and their capabilities and features. This doesn't mean I'm (or anyone else) is limited to these two choices, but this is a good starting point for how to choose a tractor. Thanks for all your work on this. You've done a major service to many people.
Thanks Tim & Christy! One more comment from a BX owner with a cab. Having the radiator screen in front of the driver is an advantage in the summer for both cooling & easy clean off while you're driving but in the winter it tends to suck warm are out of the cab. Kubota does have a plastic cover that is held on with velcro over the screen & you have to remove some plastic shields inside so it can suck air in from under the tractor. Extra work & time. No solution is perfect in every situation.
I think this series is a great service to the American Consumer. I was in the market for my first Tractor. Your content is a resource I used to help me choose what was right for me. Thank you for your efforts. Job well done! I went into this wanting Orange, but decided on Green...and I bought my Wife a brand spankin new oven!
Hey Tim, Tim here in SF Bay Area. I think you did a great job on this series and accomplished what you had set out to do. I currently own a Kubota L2501 I bought new in 2018. I used to own a JD 4320 compact that I bought new when they came out in 2005. That unit was completely built in a new JD plant in the USA. I think it was Georgia. Turbo charged 4 cyl 48HP JD motor. Had to sell it in 2007 in order to retire from AT&T. All I have left are some pics. Was pricey, but a great unit. The way things turned out, I coulda' kept it, but it is what it is. I think your videos are about as close to a professional production that you can get doing it yourself. Cheers.
I recently bought a 2013 jd4320, what an animal way to big for my property and I love it. I also retired from the telecom but in 2016, small world huh. Do yourself a favor and go get another one. YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE!!
I have a Kubota L4701, I did not really need a tractor that large but the price between what would have been large enough for my needs pushed me to a larger tractor mostly because I’ve met a lot of guys who wished for larger machines at some point but not really anyone wanting to go smaller, but I am looking at a smaller BX model for just mowing applications only, I am looking at the Deere’s as well ( 700 series) but I’m hearing that they have aluminum axles worries me. Is this actually true??, plus I’m not a big fan of all the plastic either.
Thanks Tim for taking the time to compare these two tractors, I think you did an excellent job. It doesn’t matter if you owned a John Deere or a Kubota, there are going to be haters! I don’t believe you were out to show one was better than the other, but show the capabilities of both so people could see the differences and make a decision on which one would work best for them. Nice job, please don’t be discouraged from doing future comparison videos! 👍
John Deere ATTN:: Please position the grease "zirks"(?) in an easily accessible area in the JD E170 you have to reach behind things and position the grease connection in ways that you end up scraping your hands up. This can be easily fixed by just putting them in a better area this is especially true on the mower deck.
Thankyou again for I bought a 1025r deer. I first went to kubota and was not impressed. I then watch a few (all of your videos). Called up the deer salesman had my tractor at home in one hour. In one week put 30 hours on it. Thankyou again
Being tired of the comparison was a good thing. That meant you performed enough test to show the true capabilities of both machines. There will always be people that get angry when you show/prove something they purchased isn't the best at a given task. It is what it is and I think you did a heck of a job demonstrating that through this entire series. You did an excellent job!
We are looking for a subcompact tractor to maintain 3 acres. This series was very helpful to see how the tractors compare at doing different task. I do thank you guys for your time!!!!! Very well done!!!
What did you prefer on the kioti over the Deere or Kubota. I attempted to look at the kioti but the local dealer influenced me to not buy from him. We have a kioti compact at work and the ergonomics are horrible (seat is WAY too close to the steering wheel, the detents in the transmission lack a positive stopping point so you really have to pay attention to get it in reverse/forward/neutral, for it's size the power seems to be lacking).
I was relatively new to the channel. I didn’t know how to subscribe or watch things in order. I thought I really knew which way you leaned. In completing this series, I wasn’t. It was incredibly unbiased. Comparing tractors seems to be like comparing trucks or women for that matter. There is really no reason to be envious of anyones lot in life. I try to be happy with my choice, or at least my efforts. Thank you
I run kubota or buy with kubota engines because it fits me. In my area which I work is the north half of my state and all of the dealers are huge on support just the same as Deere. The biggest difference is warranty. I work closely with several other contractors and my b2320 and 3350 cab has worked alongside of 1023r and 3032r for hundreds of hours and each has its advantage. I dont bash deere other than their warranty especially on hydraulic. Both the 3032r have had loader valve problems at 340 hours at 3 years and the other less than 200hrs at 2.5 years and was only covered 2 of the 5 year warranty. That being said I often get off of my orange and get on green because they are so closely similar on capability. I think what matters most is the dealer and their support and what fits you best. Numbers on paper can not compare to real world "pushing the limits" like we all do with them. It's like trying to mow with a compact tractor vs a kutkwick or ventrac on a hill. I think you two really went out of your way to show both the best points of both machine and have to applaud yall because you fought being bias as long time deere owners as best you could.
Yep. I agree totally. I went Kubota because the Deere dealer in my area is akin to a crack head. The yard is a wreck. The tractors are sat out and rusting. The sales building is a leaning shed looking structure. No one around. The Kubota dealer is a brand new steel building. Clean yard. Full of clean tractors. People going this way and that. People run to greet you with a smile. The employees look happy and stop to talk to you. That's why I bought my Kubota. Buying at the Deere dealer just up the road would have been a nightmare to deal with. You can just tell. Dealer support is why I bought my Kubota.
Hey Tim! We enjoy watching your videos and your comparisons were very informative. Though I do feel I need to correct one statement or assumption made in this particular video. Kubota BX tractors are absolutely built and assembled in Gainesville, GA - the good ole USA. The engine and transmissions only are built in Japan.
Thank you guys for going through this process. It's very welcoming to see someone who is trying to be unbiased about your thoughts. I thought that it was funny that a year ago you tried to kill the new oven topic but here it is a year later and you brought up that she got her kitchen toy after all. Smart move Tim. never bite the hand that feeds you...
This was one of the best reviews I have seen of the two tractors. You really weren't trying to sell use one brand or the other. There was one thing you touched on that would help better understand the sentiment that Kubota fans like the fact that Kubota makes the engine. The fact is if Yanmar goes out of business it could become hard for you to potentially source parts for the engine in the John Deere. With the Kubota the entire company would have to go out of business to expect not to get parts. Really splitting hairs in my opinion if Yanmar goes out of business there might be bigger issues in the works. The thing that you didn't touch on or I didn't see was what, I though was a bit of a disservice, is that with Kubota it almost always comes with a skid steer front attachment. Whether that is a good or bad in peoples opinion. Is another issue of you potentially losing out on some lift capacity due to weight versus the universality of attachments for the front.
We have a dedicated episode as to why I prefer the JDQA to the SSQA. We explain fully the weight disadvantage of SSQA, as well as the irrelevance of the Compatibility with existing (HUGE/HEAVY/HYDRAULIC POWERED) skid steer attachments. Objectively, JDQA makes much more sense than SSQA for subcompact tractors. ...on larger tractors, SSQA begins to be more attractive. For example, we have SSQA on our 5075e.
In the mid and late 1990s I worked at a John Deere dealer and one year I got to go for a week long John Deere dealer seminar and we visited assembly plants in Moline, IL and Horicon, WI. Way back then, the compact utility tractors (655/670 through the 955 hydro and 1070 gear drive) were built at the Horicon, WI plant along with all the lawn tractors. Also, several people would bring their Yanmar tractors in for us to service because the John Deere "was just a Yanmar". However, the ONLY parts from the Deere that would fit the Yanmars was the fuel and oil filters. The rest of the tractor was not the same, and parts were not interchangeable when you left the engine. Both of the tractors you reviewed are good tractors and the Kubota is very reliable. However, from my experience with the Deere line, ergonomics and hyrdraulics will win out every time. The only tractor that could beat Deere in the hydraulic department over the years was International. Back in the day, those tractors literally could lift a barn.
I think you two hit it out of the park! I have in joyed every episode of the comparison. Haters will be haters and lovers will be lovers. You will never change that. I don’t think you were trying for that any way. you never told anyone which tractor to buy, you were giving a very honest opinion at each unit. I think you done a GREAT job!
I think that applies to all tractors. I have a Mahindra Max 28XL and love it. I am however in the process of adding a light bar and rear work lights. The headlights with the bucket in place are less than useless.
Yall did exceptionally well. I know this took a lot of work and yall must be very exhausted. Thank you for the comparisons and your efforts to show us other consumers the different qualities of each of these individual tractors. Thank you. I bought a deere by the way. Kubota dealer was kind of snooty and didn't seem to want to deal with me when I told him I was comparing the 1025r to his bx23s.
Sealed bearings have slightly less life than greasable ones but if you don’t do maintenance greasable ones will die faster. It depends on the users maintenance habits.
FishFind3000 exactly. My last three vehicles have had no grease fittings on the drivelines. That’s been a thing for a long time. Though when it comes to replacing U-joints they are always with grease fittings.
Tim, I Think you did a wonderful job comparing these two tractors, I don’t feel you showed any bias towards either tractor and showed the pro’s and con’s for both. For anyone looking to buy one of these tractors I recommend watching all of Tim’s comparison videos and then go check them out yourself and make your on decision, thanks again Tim and sounds like your next project should be a dishwasher installation video.
The bottom line is... Ask yourself "what do I need a tractor to do"? As side note on which tractor is better. I had a JD dealer tell me about 20 yrs ago the Kubota was better. Yes he happen to sell both brands too.
I have found that your series were the best out there! Honestly I was comparing both. This helped me very much. I hope you do not allow bad attitudes from people out there~ God Bless you!!
Thank you both for this very informative series. I own a BX2350 and learned a lot of things I didn't know. Don't let all the trolls get you down. You have helped to public to be more informed. Thanks again!
Yea about the bearings maybe you could do a video on sealed vs greased ones. I’m old school and believe greased is better? But I’ve heard so much like the put sealed bearings in greased fittings areas ? Just to please the user or buyer? And I’ll be honest I’m looking at new mowers specifically O turn and a lot of commercial/residential mowers have non greased spindles so hopefully you can shed some light on this ok thanks I have both kubota and deer products like them both great videos thanks. It’s a shame on the haters I really liked the comparison videos.
only personal experience, but my Nissan Navara (not sure what you call it over there) has sealed driveshaft uni joints, and it's still going strong after 450,000km including plenty of harsh off-road use.
Less maintenance for the buyer is a selling point. Nobody enjoys crawling around greaZing stuff. Sealed units, at least in theory, should outlast non-sealed. Dirt doesn’t get in and grease doesn’t get out. CAVEAT.... this depends on the quality of the seals! Good quality sealed units are fantastic and worry-free.
Excellent job of making the videos. You have made probably the best real world comparison possible from the users perspective. Both are superior tractors but the ultimate choice belongs to the buyer. Thanks for your time and thoughts and honest results. The final words of wisdom tell me your perspective on things. Thank you.
Thank you Tim, this was a great comparison. I'm a bx1870 owner and I love my tractor. I thought you did a fair job. I'm sorry for other kubota owners who have been leaving bad comments. Always enjoy the videos.
My decision was very driven the opposite way... Kubota had the 0% when I was buying and Deere wanted me to pay interest up front and called it “no interest”. Dirty trick to get me in the door. And sadly, the price gap between the two was closer to $2,000. So I went orange. Honestly, if Deere was dollar for dollar, I probably would’ve went green. I just couldn’t justify the big price difference. I think this goes to show how important the dealer is in the buying process!
Thanks for a great comparisons. I just purchased a BX26S. A couple reason jumped out when researching. For me, money was tight. The 1025R (which was my original choice). My local dealer wanted a flat 26,000 grand. The Kubota came in at 24,304, also Kubota was offering a 500 dollar rebate on implements so I bought some pallet forks for 400 bucks. In the end, as a payment buyer 275.00 was easier than the 1025R of 335.00 with no implements. That’s why I chose orange, not to mention the Kubota dealer was really fantastic to work with. I watch a lot of your videos and appreciate how you show real world things that happen
Thank you both for the amount of time that you have both invested into this series, I know that I'm not the only one to say it. This series has helped me very much
Enjoyed the series...I purchased the 1025R and absolutely love it. Thank you for keeping the faith, and we look forward to many more TTWT videos. God bless!
Hello, I have seen many reviews on many pieces of equipment. The comparisons that you did on these two sub compact tractors was absolutely superb. I totally understand the reasons you have for not wanting to do more reviews like this. Unfortunately, there will always be those folks who do the "my team is better than your team" rant. Most of us do understand that your intent was simply to present the real world facts of what the two machines abilities are. And you did that truthfully. Obviously some folks just "can't handle the truth." Like you, i like my john deere, but can also admit when we like a certain feature on a different tractor. I hope you do more reviews in the future, they are extremely informational. Again you guys did a great job. Sorry for the long comment.
I worked with both brands or tractors,John Deere on farms and Kubota in snow removal...In my opinion Joihn Deere is tougher but more pricey and Kubota is reliable but cheaper!
Tim and Christie, Excellent job comparing the 2 tractors. Honest comparisons showing real life work that can be done. I have very much enjoyed all the videos in this series. Whom ever can make negative comments about the content must be very unhappy with whatever they own.
I really enjoyed the series. I had a BX23S delivered a couple weeks ago and am anxious for spring to start putting it to work. (did some minor snow removal so far). I went with the Kubota mainly because I liked the smoothness of the hydraulics and sweet spot for doing multiple functions just seemed to be where I thought it should be. For my application I'm not going to be lifting anything of significant weight beyond a couple feet. Mostly moving dirt and clearing land. I did get quotes on the 1025R and they were quite a bit higher, about $3500 more than the Kubota. (the dealer also charged for delivery!) However, I think I'd be happy with either machine. I'm not using it for mowing and didn't get a deck, though I am looking at the John Deere Z545R zero-turn for when I get my land cleared, so maybe I'll have both colors in my barn soon.
when i was looking for a mower i looked at a gravely. they sales guy tried to tell me about how it was maintenance free when i asked him where the grease fittings were on the spindles.. i asked him if it lasts forever... he said no.. they need to be changed when they go out.. i then told him its not maintenance free then.. he then said "no its maintenance free" i then explained to him if i have a grease fitting and chose not to grease the fitting then it will last about the same as his.. being able to put fresh grease in it will make it last longer.. they will still need to be replaced but not nearly as often..
First off, ignore the trolls, for the most part they are not rational, nor reasonable and usually seem to lack common sense and/or miss the point entirely. I feel you guys did a great job just showing the facts for each tractor. From what I’ve seen online, this is the best “real world” video comparison out there. It would be nice if more videos were as thorough and honest as yours. Great work...and thank you!
Jim sanford are they? Non greasable u joints are better if you don’t grease them what most dont cause its to hard to get at ive seen properly greased joints fail as ive seen the non greased joints fail
You are right, but I am am a guy that takes care of and maintains my Equipment. The homeowner that doesn't maintain there EQ is better off with the sealed bearings. Just my thoughts ✌️✌️
While I prefer greaseable, A thought on the nongreaseable joints is they don't get abrasive gunk possibly being injected into them from dirty grease fittings.
I've got both on everything I own and both at some time are going to fail. They are ware parts like brake shoes. I've have greaseable bronze bushings last as long or longer on the same pivot points as bearings sealed or greaseable
Tim, stumbled across this series of videos by chance, and watched it all the way through. I appreciate your honest and equal view on these tractors. I grew up around both of these brands - small Kubotas and larger green tractors. This spring, I bought my own first tractor - a 1025R, based on my previous experiences, and all the reasons you might guess based on your own videos. Keys for me were ease of deck removal, loader power, and engine performance. Although these two machines seem very even, I've personally seen the 2 series Deere and the B series Kubota hooked to an 11 foot batwing finishing mower. The mower would bog down the Kubota, while the deere would slip the clutch on the mower. Finally, my Kubota dealer and Deere dealer are right across the street from each other. Pricing and financing (zero for 60) were so close it didn't even factor into my choice. So you haven't influenced my buying choice at all, but you have confirmed that I chose the correct machine for what my priority features and capabilities were. While I could tell throughout the series you prefer the Deere, you completely covered every weakness and strength of both machines as factually as possible as near as I could tell. Thank you for the distraction and information.
By far the best and most thorough comparison. I like that you included real world scenarios, specifically loader lift with the forks. I totally agree that most other reviewers try to favor their brand. Thanks for this service.
Two comments: First: You were fair in your comparisons. You didn't downplay the Deere's shortfall when the Kubota did better, nor did you overstate the Deere's superiority when the Deere did better. You just let the results speak for themselves. Second: Get a double wall oven.
Y’all done a Great job. Thank You!
Tim, as someone looking to buy their very first tractor without any real life experience using a tractor, I very much appreciated every video in this series as it gave me practical, real life comparisons that I can use to evaluate tractors and find what meets my needs at lowest cost. You and your wife did a great job! TY!
Dear Tractor “greazer” Tim and Christy-
This series has been the best,and fairest, I have ever seen. I can imagine the stress involved dealing with people who love a particular color machine.
More important is the demonstration of what Integrity looks like, and your presentations have been a pleasure to watch.
As for the new oven..... as finance committee person, Christy, just stamp the request “Approved”!
God bless you both!
Tim and Christy, this was an extremely useful and fair comparison. I can hear the frustration in your voice due to the hateful comments, but rest assured you have helped countless people make a more educated decision when purchasing what is probably their first tractor. I thoroughly enjoyed this series and learned a great deal about both tractors.
Thank you for all the time you spent in making this series.
Seems that the whole series was as fair as you could have made it, well done. I bought a JD 755 brand new in 1989 and still have it and use it several times a week. Enough said!
Those in the 55 series were in my opinion were far better machines than those built today.
@@walt1064 my friends 855 amazingly strong tractor
I also have an 89 JD 755. I inherited it from my uncle....he had good taste. I love this tractor! Perfect size 4x4 with loader is awesome! Wish I had a number 7 backhoe though.
💥 Tim and Christy, you two did an EXCELLENT job comparing these two tractors. I think each has their own strengths and I hope that manufacturers see this and begin to enhance each brand as it benefits all of us as the consumer. I now have an idea of what the perfect sub compact should look like as it would be a combination of the JD and Kubota strengths. 👍
KEEP ON TRACTORING!!!
Spot on you could build the perfect sub compact tractor out of these two machines for sure.
@@tuffram2165 I dunno. I want 50hp, and 3000lb loader lift capacity! (for the same $16,000) :-)
@@TractorTimewithTim Hahaha one can always dream Tim
@@TractorTimewithTim do a Tim the Toolman Taylor conversion on Johnny -supercharged turbo diesel engine
This was a fantastic series. I just had my BX23S delivered three days ago, You could say I am/was middle of the fence on which one to purchase. Your comment in the first episode was what made my decision, even though I had not watched this series. The "salesman" (Messick's Dealer) made my decision to go with the Kubota. I had actually decided on the JD, but I went to two different local dealers in my area and both dealer salesnmen seemed to not care whether I bought or not. I ask a lot of questions, especially when I have a no knowledge of a product. My dad had a JD (midsize) when I grew up so I know what a backhoe is about. However, for me, purchasing the backhoe was probably 50% want than need, The Kubota salesman was enthusiastic from the get go. He answered my questions very similar to your series without bias on the practicality of what I was to purchase and comparison to the JD. I spent about 14 months back and forth with the Kubota dealer before purchasing, Now, your series would not have made a difference in my decision product wise, but it did reenforce my confidence in my decision for purchasing the Kubota in that choosing either one was a good choice.
FWIW, I found you after hours and hours of RUclips searching on what my "new" tractor is going to be. I hadn't even considered John Deere based on 'talk' I've heard in the past, but after watching your videos, I'm visiting my local JD dealer tomorrow. Looking at the 1025R TLB or the 2025R TLB. Thank you for an actual review worth watching. Honestly, you should continue this line of "work" and bring real tests and results to the consumers. Trying to decipher dealer literature is quite difficult. Your real world approach is both refreshing and trustworthy. I have a feeling you have saved me future heartache on a tractor I would not have ultimately found happiness with.
As a first time new tractor buyer, I really appreciated all of your honest evaluations and comparisons!
I was literally getting ready to say the same thing!
As a first time tractor buyer, I watched all of your videos and tried to ignore the grand standing and mocking of the Kubota. ( Honestly, for all of your "trying to be impartial," it was kind of sophomoric ) However, I saw your videos and thought, "Well, I guess the 1025R is better if it is only $1000 more.
@@kevinkirk6442 I'm currently looking right now at wm25s, kubota b23s as its the only one with BH and the 1025r with Fel and BH. I haven't been to John Deere yet but both new holland and kubota matched prices and I betcha Deere will match in this class as well. So do your research and let the dealers compete for you business. Right now as long as deere doesn't do something stupid like say we cant match other companies when i talk to them next week, they will get my money.
Maybe fair but still feels apples to oranges. The b series is a comparable machine capabilities wise just isn’t classified as subcompact. Classification doesn’t matter just capabilities and the price to get it.
The b is priced several thousand higher.
Although I don’t know you personally, I feel like I do, as you are genuine folks and well-grounded in your faith. And, your testimony to that in each episode is reflective of your values. You folks did a superb job on the comparison. My first sub-compact was a Kubota B6100 HST which served me well for over 17 years, and continues to serve the folks I sold it to. I have since had a Deere 4610 for over 16 years and recently to a 4052R. All of them served well with no major issues at all. As you clearly pointed out, they are both excellent machines and could serve anyone well based on personal preferences. I share in your dismay over those who choose to judge your fairness harshly. Please know that ‘reasonable’ folks appreciate your efforts. “Well done good and faithful servant(s)” Blessings to you all!
I concur, honest evaluation for them... Providing us info to use in researching our tractor needs/wants.
Thank you both.
This is a excellent comment
Patrick Wheatley I agree
Thank you for the series.
Keep in mind troll comments say more about the person saying them. Don’t take it personally.
What I have learned from these pages. Troll = anyone who doesn't agree that a john deere is better. LoL
Awesome series Tim! Fair & honest review of each tractor. I own a 1025r & my neighbor has a BX. I can tell you they are both excellent tractors. We both use the tractors to mow, landscape, and clear snow in the winter, we both love our tractors & know we can depend on them. I think these size tractors are just the right size, not too big, and not too small for lots of tasks. I’m certain that anyone who purchases either one of these tractors will really enjoy having it for many years. Just thought I would also mention winter snow removal, and the way my neighbor & I take care of that. On his Bx, he uses the loader and a rear blade, that works well. I use a plow same as the one Tim has with the edge protector & the hard rubber 6” wings on the sides. While I’m at it here's some things on my wish list😊 Mauser Cab, Bagger, Sweeper, Forks, LED light kit, & a toothbar. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for Christmas but my wife would disagree. Thanks for reading all this, my advise to anyone out there looking for a subcompact tractor is simply: Go get one! I know it’s $15K (+) but you only live once, you will be glad you got it every single time you go outside & start it up😊
Well done series Tim! If someone was in the market for a subcompact tractor I believe these videos would be the best source of information for them.
I am a novice and have been investigating these two tractors and would never have understood the differences as clearly and thoroughly as you have done. Thank you
This is by far the most objective, unbiased comparison I've ever seen online in the Orange/Green wars.
Ultimately, it comes down to this: Despite what many people want to hear, one is not "great" while the other is "terrible." Both are really well-matched, capable machines, and I feel that IF these tractors are appropriate for the type of work that you need to do, then a buyer would be very happy with either choice.
Thanks, Tim and family. I was happy to find your channel and look forward to more of your content.
Chin up. You did a great job. I concluded the same as you in that there wasn’t a lot of unbiased comparison information. This video would have helped me a lot 4 years ago in saving time. Still this was confirmation in my decision 4 years ago and I am still satisfied. Thank you.
Just a BIG FYI, Kubota tractors are Manufactured in Gainesville, GA.
You did a great job keeping bias out of your testing in this series and I'm sure many folks in the future will use these videos to help evaluate before their purchases.
I hope you know when I was shopping for my 1025r a few years ago that your videos really opened my eyes on the possible tasks the machine could accomplish. God bless you and your family!
kubotas are less greaseing job
I thought it was a very objective comparison of two very capable tractors. Good job. ;)
Thank you for all the time you spent on this comparison. I own a Kubota Grand L6060 and feel you were fair and thorough in your analysis. They are both great machines from great companies. There are always going to be negative people-please don’t let their comments get you down. You did a great job and I greatly appreciate all your effort!
Tim, I've watched your channel from the beginning, and ended up getting an Johnny inspired Johnny. I've stayed out of the comments because they can be frustrating to read even as a viewer, but this episode compelled me to make my first comment - you two are amazing. This has been the most unbiased review I've seen, and I'm sad to see the joy taken out of you based on others comments. Don't lose the joy, and keep up the clean, honest, Christian work. I love it!
Wow, thanks Mark! Really appreciate the encouraging words!
@@TractorTimewithTim You two are a blessing for us all in search of a honest, compassionate review of these tractors. so sad there are so many haters on social media. I thank you both for all your time and efforts to make these videos . means alot to have you both for me to watch and learn from . Thanks every day !!
OMG DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS, I DO BELIEVE THAT YOUR REVIEW IS MORE THAN FAIR BASED ON THE OTHER REVIEWS THAT I HAVE SEEN, SOME OF WITCH YOU HAVE MENTIONED, I OWN BOTH JD AND KUBOTA MACHINES OF VARIOUS SIZES AND LOVE THEM BOTH.
YOU ALL HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH YOUR RESEARCH AND REVIEWS AND GOD BLESS ,NOW GET BACK TO THE REAL WORK, KICK THE TIRES AND LIGHT THE FIRES, LET'S SEE SOME TRACTOR WORK!!!!!!
LOL
Thanks for doing a great job on the comparisons of these two heavyweights. Way too much emphasis is placed on the “plastic tractor hood” I for one am glad I went green. I have bounced numerous chunks of firewood off the hood of my 1025R and NO DENTS to repair. No cracks either.
Love the twin touch pedals, being in the forklift industry the location is the same as the monotrol pedal. Treadle pedals are just not that natural.
My brother has orange and loves it. Good for him. He has very different requirements for his Kubota as do I for my 1025R.
Most of the comparison videos I have seen try to push potential Byers to one brand or another. People just need to ask themselves why are they buying a SCUT to begin with? Does this tractor or that one fit my needs better? Buying one over the other simply on price and or reputation is just foolish, in my opinion.
Thanks again for the series. And remember Happy Wife= Happy Life. Get the oven my friend.
This series will become *the* benchmark RUclips videos for those who need to know the real differences between these two models. I have had my 1025R TLB for about a month now, and I use whatever capability it delivers. I'm building a 60 foot retaining wall into a hillside that had lots of stumps from shrubs and small tress. I'm pretty sure I could do what I need with either tractor, but I sure to appreciate whatever strength the 1025R delivers.
Nothing you have said turned me off from the Kubota, but if I went that way, I would likely jump up to the B series. It would be great if someone could help you move some dirt at your church with a Kubota B series, since many people who watch these videos and see the BX to be a bit weaker will wonder if the B would meet their needs. Thanks so much for your contribution to the community, and for staying true to your faith!
I wanted to say thank you for doing this series of comparisons. I've watched every one because I'm in the marked for a sub-compact and these are two of the options I've been researching. Again, thank you for the detailed info, demonstrations and honest feedback. You've made it much easier for me to chose the right machine for what I need to do.
Don’t let anyone limit your speech. And I own a mahindra 1530 and I think you done a very fair test between both tractors. Keep up the great things you do Tim.
Great job. I own a BX23S for starters. Having said that I thoroughly enjoyed the series and felt you kept an open mind through out. It’s important information that did not exist when I purchased and would have appreciated having. I have been more than satisfied with my purchase and continue to learn through your (and Christys) efforts as well as other contributors. In regards to the oven it is quite apparent your appreciation for fine dining and food in general so I know you are only kidding about the oven. Remember the Holidays are coming and those big meals will require new toys.
Tim after watching the comparison videos, I went out and bought a 2021 1025r traded my 2020 X590 got the 120r loader and 54 auto connect deck love it !
This was my favorite one, enjoyed your commentary. You did a fantastic job.
Thanks for your help, Neil!
@11:47 Tim preferred it was made by West somewhere - US and Europe. It just show you that Tim is bias. He's doesn't like Asian made.
@@eddiepit I don't think that's the case at all.
Niel, would you say this is the most closely matched Kubota (understanding Tim's comment about people often comparing these two and the reason for doing it)? Or is it a situation where the JD falls between two Kubota models?
@@eddiepit First I would say most people have some preference for the place they live. Its success usually means their success in broad terms. National pride.
I would also say everyone wants good quality, and many of the eastern countries don't reliably produce it.
So I wouldn't read it as bias against the the east in general, but against bad quality. Japan used to be the country producing the poor quality, and they quickly transitioned to one known for high quality. Korea is making their transition pretty quickly too. The US did the same in the 1800s. India and China are hit and miss currently, but due to the large numbers of people, will probably take 40years to make that same transition.
You guys did a good job! Im sorry you let the haters beat you down by the end of the series but I can still feel your radiant good nature.
Tim i have watched a ton of your videos on equipment and you do such a grounded series of comments on the equipment that people should listen to you as you are very helpful for most people to work out any problems they might have choosing a tractor to fit all your needs i have three and one excavator that i use they have served me well over the years . Your channel is one of my most favorite of all. Good content and very little bs always works for me.
What you have done is incredibly useful for so many people.
We can all watch biased reviews and try to decipher reality or spend 10 minutes driving around the yard at the dealer, but you really don’t know what you got into until the first time it gets put to work.
You have put the information out in a way that truly shows the strengths to either machine.
As an engineer there is a ton of different ways to do load/strength tests, I may have done some differently, but don’t let the haters get you down, you did excellent job showing what both machines are capable of!
God bless!
Heavy equipment mechanic here. Yanmar makes the simplest, easiest and arguably the most reliable small Diesel engines on earth, they really are idiot proof. Any air cooled deutz is also extremely reliable.
I have struggled and spent more time than I’ve wanted to, going back and forth on these two brands. I’ve been using “gray” market tractors that my grandfather wanted to sell such as Yanmar and Mitsubishi. They are a pain in the you know what due to accessibility getting on and off, manual transmissions, no live power, etc. You get what you pay for.
Your videos have been fantastic. I cannot stress how helpful you and your family have been comparing the two. I was really vague as to how they worked and how their mowers for instance hooked up. Not only were these videos great for comparison, they were in essence, great training videos which I think both manufacturers owe you for that!
DO NOT pay any attention to any of the hateful comments. I’d like to challenge those haters to step up and do what you have done better! I felt you have really gone above and beyond trying to show why and how these machines have their good and bad limitations.
I agree on your decision using these two brands. I live in an area that have all kinds of brand dealerships. JD, Kubota, Massey, Kioti, New Holland, Mahindra, etc. I test drove a New Holland tractor (don’t remember the size number but it was close to the 25 hp range), and felt it was cheaply made.
You all have done a great service in showing what to look for in all compact tractors!
Thank you so much for putting these videos together! You made them fun to watch and your family is awesome! Your a guy I could hang out and talk tractors all day with!
Hope to see more videos and ignore the haters and BS comments. Some people are terrible human beings and love to bring others down!
Thanks for the kind words, and welcome to our channel!!
There has always and will always be brand specific people. It's been going on for ever, Ford verse Chevy, red verse green, mules verse horses.
It will never change, but you have done a great job at the comparison of these two units. Thank you for the job well done 👍👍👍👍✌️✌️
We have a 2010 BX25 TLB with 1200 hrs.. we are the original owners. it has been a fantastic tractor and has never given us an ounce of trouble, it does have some limitations but as do all the compacts. Thanks TTWT for taking the time to do these reviews! They really do help because we were actually looking at a 1series Deere.
How's she goin'? Just want to say I think you both have put an extreme amount of work and energy into this comparison series and I think you did a great job. Whether or not you are pro Deere, it really didn't matter to me ( a Massey Ferguson guy) because your tests were done fair and straight forward so that the results spoke for themselves. I am glad you took on this task and I think you results are terrific. Thanks for your vids folks, you are an aid to the sub-compact community!!!!
Few years afterwards,but thank you for your time and "middle of the road " comparison of the two tractors. a person like myself who does not know a whole lot about them and sees a near future purchase of a tractor of this size. Your honest review I found to be very helpful for me to educate myself to make a better decision. Thank you.
Awesome video series i’m glad somebody went over all these two tractors
Something I especially like regarding the gas gage on the JD is that you are able to read it while filling your fuel and it does it without needing the ignition on. It's especially helpful since using a fuel funnel blocks the way of seeing the fuel rising up. It's right there in full view while filling. Simple yet brilliant.
Tim! Don't stop doing the comparisons! Loved this one. I have a 2019 bx2380 and I saw nothing on your comparison I thought was bias. You know the 1025 better but you have had two of them so experience on a certain tractor helps too. Keep it going, ignore the haters. Please!!
Hi Tim. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot of us out here who remain quiet but are thoroughly blown away with all you guys do. You are having a truly positive influence on this special community of small tractor enthusiasts. So thank you, thank you, thank you (and get her the oven :).
Wow. Thanks for the kind words! I’ll get the oven. You’ve convinced me!
Tim says you don't need an oven to make cheeseburgers!! Lol
Lee Fritz just a grill!!!
Need a b series to lift that pallet of burgers.
Please become the Consumer Reports of tractors! Ignore the haters, they are always going to be out there and they are never going to be objective anyhow. This series was very informative to me as a first time tractor buyer. You've shown what both tractors are about and their capabilities and features. This doesn't mean I'm (or anyone else) is limited to these two choices, but this is a good starting point for how to choose a tractor. Thanks for all your work on this. You've done a major service to many people.
This entire series was simply great Tim and Christy, I enjoyed them all.
Thanks Tim & Christy!
One more comment from a BX owner with a cab. Having the radiator screen in front of the driver is an advantage in the summer for both cooling & easy clean off while you're driving but in the winter it tends to suck warm are out of the cab. Kubota does have a plastic cover that is held on with velcro over the screen & you have to remove some plastic shields inside so it can suck air in from under the tractor. Extra work & time. No solution is perfect in every situation.
Great video Tim and family! I think you’ve done a great job giving an unbiased, and fact based opinion!
I think this series is a great service to the American Consumer. I was in the market for my first Tractor. Your content is a resource I used to help me choose what was right for me. Thank you for your efforts. Job well done! I went into this wanting Orange, but decided on Green...and I bought my Wife a brand spankin new oven!
Thanks Tim for all the work on these video. Finally a good comparison!
Hey Tim, Tim here in SF Bay Area. I think you did a great job on this series and accomplished what you had set out to do. I currently own a Kubota L2501 I bought new in 2018. I used to own a JD 4320 compact that I bought new when they came out in 2005. That unit was completely built in a new JD plant in the USA. I think it was Georgia. Turbo charged 4 cyl 48HP JD motor. Had to sell it in 2007 in order to retire from AT&T. All I have left are some pics. Was pricey, but a great unit. The way things turned out, I coulda' kept it, but it is what it is. I think your videos are about as close to a professional production that you can get doing it yourself.
Cheers.
I recently bought a 2013 jd4320, what an animal way to big for my property and I love it. I also retired from the telecom but in 2016, small world huh. Do yourself a favor and go get another one. YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE!!
They both are great tractors but I like the style on the Deere looks a lot tougher.
Ih Man JD1025 is larger, closer to Kubotas B series that why is more expensive and larger.
@Vin Vin not true
I have a Kubota L4701, I did not really need a tractor that large but the price between what would have been large enough for my needs pushed me to a larger tractor mostly because I’ve met a lot of guys who wished for larger machines at some point but not really anyone wanting to go smaller, but I am looking at a smaller BX model for just mowing applications only, I am looking at the Deere’s as well ( 700 series) but I’m hearing that they have aluminum axles worries me. Is this actually true??, plus I’m not a big fan of all the plastic either.
Thanks Tim for taking the time to compare these two tractors, I think you did an excellent job. It doesn’t matter if you owned a John Deere or a Kubota, there are going to be haters! I don’t believe you were out to show one was better than the other, but show the capabilities of both so people could see the differences and make a decision on which one would work best for them. Nice job, please don’t be discouraged from doing future comparison videos! 👍
John Deere ATTN:: Please position the grease "zirks"(?) in an easily accessible area in the JD E170 you have to reach behind things and position the grease connection in ways that you end up scraping your hands up. This can be easily fixed by just putting them in a better area this is especially true on the mower deck.
Geez, just goes to show the lack of engineering.. what a pain..
Thankyou again for I bought a 1025r deer. I first went to kubota and was not impressed. I then watch a few (all of your videos). Called up the deer salesman had my tractor at home in one hour. In one week put 30 hours on it. Thankyou again
By any measure, Tim, you and Christie are tops! Thanks for all you do!
Being tired of the comparison was a good thing. That meant you performed enough test to show the true capabilities of both machines. There will always be people that get angry when you show/prove something they purchased isn't the best at a given task. It is what it is and I think you did a heck of a job demonstrating that through this entire series. You did an excellent job!
Thanks for the kind words.
There were more differences, they just all favored the Deere
I can’t say it any better than Ritter did. I’ve always enjoyed your videos. Keep up the great work. God bless you guys.
We are looking for a subcompact tractor to maintain 3 acres. This series was very helpful to see how the tractors compare at doing different task. I do thank you guys for your time!!!!! Very well done!!!
I bought a new Kioti 2510 with the backhoe in 2014 and have never been sorry. In my mind, it beats both of these!
What did you prefer on the kioti over the Deere or Kubota. I attempted to look at the kioti but the local dealer influenced me to not buy from him. We have a kioti compact at work and the ergonomics are horrible (seat is WAY too close to the steering wheel, the detents in the transmission lack a positive stopping point so you really have to pay attention to get it in reverse/forward/neutral, for it's size the power seems to be lacking).
I was relatively new to the channel. I didn’t know how to subscribe or watch things in order. I thought I really knew which way you leaned. In completing this series, I wasn’t. It was incredibly unbiased. Comparing tractors seems to be like comparing trucks or women for that matter. There is really no reason to be envious of anyones lot in life. I try to be happy with my choice, or at least my efforts. Thank you
I run kubota or buy with kubota engines because it fits me. In my area which I work is the north half of my state and all of the dealers are huge on support just the same as Deere. The biggest difference is warranty. I work closely with several other contractors and my b2320 and 3350 cab has worked alongside of 1023r and 3032r for hundreds of hours and each has its advantage. I dont bash deere other than their warranty especially on hydraulic. Both the 3032r have had loader valve problems at 340 hours at 3 years and the other less than 200hrs at 2.5 years and was only covered 2 of the 5 year warranty. That being said I often get off of my orange and get on green because they are so closely similar on capability. I think what matters most is the dealer and their support and what fits you best. Numbers on paper can not compare to real world "pushing the limits" like we all do with them. It's like trying to mow with a compact tractor vs a kutkwick or ventrac on a hill. I think you two really went out of your way to show both the best points of both machine and have to applaud yall because you fought being bias as long time deere owners as best you could.
Yep. I agree totally. I went Kubota because the Deere dealer in my area is akin to a crack head. The yard is a wreck. The tractors are sat out and rusting. The sales building is a leaning shed looking structure. No one around. The Kubota dealer is a brand new steel building. Clean yard. Full of clean tractors. People going this way and that. People run to greet you with a smile. The employees look happy and stop to talk to you. That's why I bought my Kubota. Buying at the Deere dealer just up the road would have been a nightmare to deal with. You can just tell. Dealer support is why I bought my Kubota.
Hey Tim! We enjoy watching your videos and your comparisons were very informative. Though I do feel I need to correct one statement or assumption made in this particular video. Kubota BX tractors are absolutely built and assembled in Gainesville, GA - the good ole USA. The engine and transmissions only are built in Japan.
I love that you are talking about TLBs while wearing a ventrac shirt!
How does the ventrac compare to these?
Thank you guys for going through this process. It's very welcoming to see someone who is trying to be unbiased about your thoughts.
I thought that it was funny that a year ago you tried to kill the new oven topic but here it is a year later and you brought up that she got her kitchen toy after all. Smart move Tim. never bite the hand that feeds you...
We actually got it just after that series...so, I’m not THAT bad :-)
This was one of the best reviews I have seen of the two tractors. You really weren't trying to sell use one brand or the other.
There was one thing you touched on that would help better understand the sentiment that Kubota fans like the fact that Kubota makes the engine. The fact is if Yanmar goes out of business it could become hard for you to potentially source parts for the engine in the John Deere. With the Kubota the entire company would have to go out of business to expect not to get parts. Really splitting hairs in my opinion if Yanmar goes out of business there might be bigger issues in the works.
The thing that you didn't touch on or I didn't see was what, I though was a bit of a disservice, is that with Kubota it almost always comes with a skid steer front attachment. Whether that is a good or bad in peoples opinion. Is another issue of you potentially losing out on some lift capacity due to weight versus the universality of attachments for the front.
We have a dedicated episode as to why I prefer the JDQA to the SSQA. We explain fully the weight disadvantage of SSQA, as well as the irrelevance of the Compatibility with existing (HUGE/HEAVY/HYDRAULIC POWERED) skid steer attachments.
Objectively, JDQA makes much more sense than SSQA for subcompact tractors.
...on larger tractors, SSQA begins to be more attractive. For example, we have SSQA on our 5075e.
In the mid and late 1990s I worked at a John Deere dealer and one year I got to go for a week long John Deere dealer seminar and we visited assembly plants in Moline, IL and Horicon, WI. Way back then, the compact utility tractors (655/670 through the 955 hydro and 1070 gear drive) were built at the Horicon, WI plant along with all the lawn tractors.
Also, several people would bring their Yanmar tractors in for us to service because the John Deere "was just a Yanmar". However, the ONLY parts from the Deere that would fit the Yanmars was the fuel and oil filters. The rest of the tractor was not the same, and parts were not interchangeable when you left the engine.
Both of the tractors you reviewed are good tractors and the Kubota is very reliable. However, from my experience with the Deere line, ergonomics and hyrdraulics will win out every time. The only tractor that could beat Deere in the hydraulic department over the years was International. Back in the day, those tractors literally could lift a barn.
i work in the factory that makes the JD decals , which is based in the Midwest. love my 1025r!
I think you two hit it out of the park! I have in joyed every episode of the comparison. Haters will be haters and lovers will be lovers. You will never change that. I don’t think you were trying for that any way. you never told anyone which tractor to buy, you were giving a very honest opinion at each unit. I think you done a GREAT job!
I have a bx with 500 hours no drivetrain trouble
and a totaly agree front headlights are useless with the front loader
I think that applies to all tractors. I have a Mahindra Max 28XL and love it. I am however in the process of adding a light bar and rear work lights. The headlights with the bucket in place are less than useless.
Yall did exceptionally well. I know this took a lot of work and yall must be very exhausted. Thank you for the comparisons and your efforts to show us other consumers the different qualities of each of these individual tractors. Thank you. I bought a deere by the way. Kubota dealer was kind of snooty and didn't seem to want to deal with me when I told him I was comparing the 1025r to his bx23s.
Sealed bearings have slightly less life than greasable ones but if you don’t do maintenance greasable ones will die faster. It depends on the users maintenance habits.
FishFind3000 exactly. My last three vehicles have had no grease fittings on the drivelines. That’s been a thing for a long time. Though when it comes to replacing U-joints they are always with grease fittings.
Tim, I Think you did a wonderful job comparing these two tractors, I don’t feel you showed any bias towards either tractor and showed the pro’s and con’s for both. For anyone looking to buy one of these tractors I recommend watching all of Tim’s comparison videos and then go check them out yourself and make your on decision, thanks again Tim and sounds like your next project should be a dishwasher installation video.
The bottom line is... Ask yourself "what do I need a tractor to do"?
As side note on which tractor is better. I had a JD dealer tell me about 20 yrs ago the Kubota was better. Yes he happen to sell both brands too.
I have found that your series were the best out there! Honestly I was comparing both. This helped me very much. I hope you do not allow bad attitudes from people out there~
God Bless you!!
Tim liked your comparison very honest. ..and tim get the oven life will be simpler and better for you. ....
Thank you both for this very informative series. I own a BX2350 and learned a lot of things I didn't know. Don't let all the trolls get you down. You have helped to public to be more informed. Thanks again!
Thanks for watching, David!
Yea about the bearings maybe you could do a video on sealed vs greased ones. I’m old school and believe greased is better? But I’ve heard so much like the put sealed bearings in greased fittings areas ? Just to please the user or buyer? And I’ll be honest I’m looking at new mowers specifically O turn and a lot of commercial/residential mowers have non greased spindles so hopefully you can shed some light on this ok thanks I have both kubota and deer products like them both great videos thanks. It’s a shame on the haters I really liked the comparison videos.
only personal experience, but my Nissan Navara (not sure what you call it over there) has sealed driveshaft uni joints, and it's still going strong after 450,000km including plenty of harsh off-road use.
Less maintenance for the buyer is a selling point. Nobody enjoys crawling around greaZing stuff. Sealed units, at least in theory, should outlast non-sealed. Dirt doesn’t get in and grease doesn’t get out. CAVEAT.... this depends on the quality of the seals! Good quality sealed units are fantastic and worry-free.
I’ve been in the parts business for a lot of years and greazable is the best if you do regular maintenance but if you don’t they will fail.
Excellent job of making the videos. You have made probably the best real world comparison possible from the users perspective. Both are superior tractors but the ultimate choice belongs to the buyer. Thanks for your time and thoughts and honest results. The final words of wisdom tell me your perspective on things. Thank you.
Great review. I really enjoyed following all these episodes doing this comparison. Jakob, Binfield, UK
Thank you Tim, this was a great comparison. I'm a bx1870 owner and I love my tractor. I thought you did a fair job. I'm sorry for other kubota owners who have been leaving bad comments. Always enjoy the videos.
Well done guy's! The 0 interest on the JD for 84 months is hard to deal to beat in my area.
Ranger6x6 When I bought my Kubota, it was 0 interest as well. Buy what you like, you will probably be happy with either.
My decision was very driven the opposite way... Kubota had the 0% when I was buying and Deere wanted me to pay interest up front and called it “no interest”. Dirty trick to get me in the door. And sadly, the price gap between the two was closer to $2,000. So I went orange. Honestly, if Deere was dollar for dollar, I probably would’ve went green. I just couldn’t justify the big price difference.
I think this goes to show how important the dealer is in the buying process!
Dan Richard What model did you buy and how many ours so far? If you don't mind the question.
Kevin Coop BX2380 with only about 70hrs on it so far.
Dan Richard I have 2360. Recently had 350 hr service done. Over $650.00. Still happy with my choice though. Respectfully, Kevin
Thanks for a great comparisons. I just purchased a BX26S. A couple reason jumped out when researching. For me, money was tight. The 1025R (which was my original choice). My local dealer wanted a flat 26,000 grand. The Kubota came in at 24,304, also Kubota was offering a 500 dollar rebate on implements so I bought some pallet forks for 400 bucks. In the end, as a payment buyer 275.00 was easier than the 1025R of 335.00 with no implements. That’s why I chose orange, not to mention the Kubota dealer was really fantastic to work with. I watch a lot of your videos and appreciate how you show real world things that happen
Great video
Thank you both for the amount of time that you have both invested into this series, I know that I'm not the only one to say it. This series has helped me very much
Pick up the oven on the way to Goodworks tractor!
Sorry to hear about ur hater comments. U have given great information that will help me as a first time purchaser. Thank you.
I'm a go for the oven. Yanmar stuff is great, just ask A Camarata. That being said we have had a Kubota for many years.
Enjoyed the series...I purchased the 1025R and absolutely love it. Thank you for keeping the faith, and we look forward to many more TTWT videos. God bless!
I don’t understand why people get so butt hurt about brands, like they own the company or something.
Hello, I have seen many reviews on many pieces of equipment. The comparisons that you did on these two sub compact tractors was absolutely superb. I totally understand the reasons you have for not wanting to do more reviews like this. Unfortunately, there will always be those folks who do the "my team is better than your team" rant. Most of us do understand that your intent was simply to present the real world facts of what the two machines abilities are. And you did that truthfully. Obviously some folks just "can't handle the truth." Like you, i like my john deere, but can also admit when we like a certain feature on a different tractor. I hope you do more reviews in the future, they are extremely informational. Again you guys did a great job. Sorry for the long comment.
I worked with both brands or tractors,John Deere on farms and Kubota in snow removal...In my opinion Joihn Deere is tougher but more pricey and Kubota is reliable but cheaper!
Tim and Christie, Excellent job comparing the 2 tractors. Honest comparisons showing real life work that can be done. I have very much enjoyed all the videos in this series. Whom ever can make negative comments about the content must be very unhappy with whatever they own.
A few $ differences between the two tractors I will stay with the green one there are several things that push me in that direction
I really enjoyed the series. I had a BX23S delivered a couple weeks ago and am anxious for spring to start putting it to work. (did some minor snow removal so far). I went with the Kubota mainly because I liked the smoothness of the hydraulics and sweet spot for doing multiple functions just seemed to be where I thought it should be. For my application I'm not going to be lifting anything of significant weight beyond a couple feet. Mostly moving dirt and clearing land.
I did get quotes on the 1025R and they were quite a bit higher, about $3500 more than the Kubota. (the dealer also charged for delivery!) However, I think I'd be happy with either machine. I'm not using it for mowing and didn't get a deck, though I am looking at the John Deere Z545R zero-turn for when I get my land cleared, so maybe I'll have both colors in my barn soon.
when i was looking for a mower i looked at a gravely. they sales guy tried to tell me about how it was maintenance free when i asked him where the grease fittings were on the spindles.. i asked him if it lasts forever... he said no.. they need to be changed when they go out.. i then told him its not maintenance free then.. he then said "no its maintenance free" i then explained to him if i have a grease fitting and chose not to grease the fitting then it will last about the same as his.. being able to put fresh grease in it will make it last longer.. they will still need to be replaced but not nearly as often..
First off, ignore the trolls, for the most part they are not rational, nor reasonable and usually seem to lack common sense and/or miss the point entirely. I feel you guys did a great job just showing the facts for each tractor. From what I’ve seen online, this is the best “real world” video comparison out there. It would be nice if more videos were as thorough and honest as yours. Great work...and thank you!
`Greasable bearings are allways better !!
Jim sanford are they? Non greasable u joints are better if you don’t grease them what most dont cause its to hard to get at ive seen properly greased joints fail as ive seen the non greased joints fail
You are right, but I am am a guy that takes care of and maintains my Equipment. The homeowner that doesn't maintain there EQ is better off with the sealed bearings. Just my thoughts ✌️✌️
While I prefer greaseable, A thought on the nongreaseable joints is they don't get abrasive gunk possibly being injected into them from dirty grease fittings.
I've got both on everything I own and both at some time are going to fail. They are ware parts like brake shoes. I've have greaseable bronze bushings last as long or longer on the same pivot points as bearings sealed or greaseable
@@mesh1248 I grew up on a dairy farm. Having said that,I was raised with the mantra,"grease is cheaper then new parts". Nuff said.
Tim, stumbled across this series of videos by chance, and watched it all the way through. I appreciate your honest and equal view on these tractors. I grew up around both of these brands - small Kubotas and larger green tractors. This spring, I bought my own first tractor - a 1025R, based on my previous experiences, and all the reasons you might guess based on your own videos. Keys for me were ease of deck removal, loader power, and engine performance. Although these two machines seem very even, I've personally seen the 2 series Deere and the B series Kubota hooked to an 11 foot batwing finishing mower. The mower would bog down the Kubota, while the deere would slip the clutch on the mower. Finally, my Kubota dealer and Deere dealer are right across the street from each other. Pricing and financing (zero for 60) were so close it didn't even factor into my choice. So you haven't influenced my buying choice at all, but you have confirmed that I chose the correct machine for what my priority features and capabilities were. While I could tell throughout the series you prefer the Deere, you completely covered every weakness and strength of both machines as factually as possible as near as I could tell. Thank you for the distraction and information.
Thanks for the kind words, Drew. We tried.
Check out our 2038r 10’ rhino flex wing episode.
3-2-1 Neil from Messicks...
By far the best and most thorough comparison. I like that you included real world scenarios, specifically loader lift with the forks. I totally agree that most other reviewers try to favor their brand. Thanks for this service.