Reading YOUR Controversial MLP Opinions!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Today we look at your controversial opinions on MLP! whether it's MLP G5, FIM, EQG, or any spinoffs, all opinions are welcome! The more controversial the better!
This is the first episode of a series I am starting called: Bold Banter Bonanza. If all goes well, I will be able to make more episodes of this series as time goes on and share even more My Little Pony opinions with you all!
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So... should Zephyr Breeze and Rainbow Dash be a thing? Yeah- I'ma say no. My Little Pony doesn't need that disaster.
Thank you to everyone who commented! If your comment didn't make it into the video, you can leave another and it might make it into a future video!
Fun fact: this was my attempt at an unscripted video. I am really bad at going unscripted, but I wanted you guys to hear my genuine reaction to these comments! Hopefully I get better at doing unscripted videos. It would be a good skill to have.
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Runtime is key in this video. You only had time to cover so many comments, especially when it came to defending or opposing points made by others. But this was still an enjoyable watch, regardless of my own thoughts.
You did great!
If you do please add my comment about the Mlps gens possibly of if anyone agrees with me on. That I know the g3 or g3.5 fans also anyone who likes g3.5 newborn cuties won't comment on it but if anyone agrees me that's great to know Im fine with not everyone likening that opinion but personally us who watched g3 g3.5 and g3.5 newborn cuties and who still like them or remember them who possibly agree with me
So, maybe a controversial opinion on my behalf: I feel like the show, and the franchise as a whole, could have been something more. Like, bigger in scale or, at least, a little more mature as seasons went by, discussing even harsher themes than those that appeared in it: like death (literal, not implied), PTSD, war, familiar abuse, drugs consumption, corruption within the government, crimes, etc.
The same goes for some characters: Starlight, Celestia and Luna, Scootaloo, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon, Gallus and Gilda, Thorax, Zecora, Lyra and Bon-Bon (*coff coff* Sweetie Drops *coff coff*). We could have had a massive repertoire of incredible and wholesomely touching moments and episodes, maybe even entire arcs that didn't revolve on major threats or villains, just people struggling with life and past actions.
And then, there's the villains... basically the same as any other character mentioned above. I mean, the comics do help characterizing them more and making deeper, more touching stories at times, but I don't feel like a comic should literally do the job sometimes (sometimes, not *every time, calm down haters and purists), but instead complement on what is set. Like, a whole frickin' arc of Celestia having fallen in love with a alternate dimension Sombra? Fuck, I would have made a movie out of that, not a comic!
But anyway... I still like the show, but it's because of these things, and some more, that I prefer way more what the fandom has to offer rather than the former.
People who say "Fluttershy had to learn the same lesson over and over again" clearly don't understand how Anxiety works. Social Anxiety (which is what it seems like Fluttershy has) cannot be cured by one lesson. Overcoming anxiety takes time.
TRUE
Social and/or maybe Generalized Anxiety Disorder FOR SURE. And the thing is, you can't "cure" anxiety. You can only manage it and do your best to cope with situations that trigger that anxiety.
@@starsiadraws As a person with GAD and is trying to overcome it I can see myself in Fluttershy,I deal with lots of worries and obsessions due to Asperger’s and GAD, you can feel like you’re taking one step forward, but fall back into the same thing it’s really hard to do and honestly when younger I could see myself in this character hence why she’s one of my favorites.
Exactly, my friendo!
@@Heavilune as someone who has Asperger's I agree
Even the mere mention of a perfect pear still brings me to tears. The longing for Big Mac, AJ and Applebloom for any knowledge about their parents and how everyone else were so brave when they themselves be vulnerable enough to tell the story.
8:22 The slow pan to AJ’s uncomfy face has me dying! She always pulls the funniest expressions. Nice video man.
I’m sure someone has said this, but absolutely Zephyr and RD should not get together. All other ships aside, they won’t be a good pair. Not only does Zephyr constantly trample all over RD’s boundaries, but he would hold RD back. As shown in his episodes, he’s not all too interested in actually pushing himself. This could mean he wouldn’t lift RD up and help her push herself to achieve her goals. Zephyr just isn’t a good match for RD.
With Fluttershy not learning, she is. Clearly that person doesn’t have to deal with anxiety nor have they had to basically change a core part of their person. It takes a lot of work and baby steps to do just that. Fluttershy has been shy her entire life. It’s the main memorable part of who she is. It won’t take one time to change such a big part of herself.
4:56 I hope Zephyr Breeze stays single for his entire life
Fluttershy doesn’t really have lessons, it’s just more a mental struggle for her. Her character is literally kindness itself (so friendship totally checks out), and her development is getting over her anxiety. That’s why it takes so long and is “her only lesson”. Just because it actually isn’t really a lesson to begin with. Anxiety can’t be cured by learning how to be a better friend. Trust me.
Trixie is my favorite. In the later episodes her flaw is really she is just dumb. My friendship is a lot like her, just playful banter. Like in No Second Prances, her worst moment was her trying to one up Twilight, but she still shows genuine kindess and remorse in the episode too. In the finale she picked up that Starlight was feelinf overwhelmed and scared so she helped their exit and then helped with her confidence later. And something i focused on with trixie, when discord called her a "self absorbed, below average, illusionist" she got upset at the self absorbed part, not the thing she takes pride in. All Bottled Up she's dumb, she didn't realize what she was saying and how it affected Starlight until Starlight infected 3 ponies. Road to Friendship she was quick to anger but quick to end it, and then Starlight traded away her house basically. Student Council, Starlight was ignoring her friends for her work, and that work being for pretty minor things. The vice headmare stuff, she is stupid, but she genuinely thought Starlight wanted her help. She thought she was doing good and acceoted when Starlight said it wasn't. I know this is a long comment, but while Trixie annoyed people, she wasn't a bad person, she just made bad choices. In all of her episodes she wasn't a bad person, just a loud mouth
BRO Prefect Pear made me cried, EVERYTIME I watched it.
I think Twilight's castle is the worst design in the show if we're talking about landmarks. I can make a whole list on what's wrong with it, but in short, it's very edgy and sharp (nothing like Twilight), and I much preferred Golden Oaks Library as Twilight's home.
I don't know that I agree on Twilight's castle being a bad fit, but I will agree the Golden Oaks Library suited her much better
I think this is a pretty common opinion tbh, I've never seen someone like the castle
@@colorbar.s That's fair enough. I can't really say I've heard anyone like it either, but I'm sure some people do. I'm more indifferent on the castle myself
I think they should’ve given her a castle library, or something like the treehouse of harmony that we got in season 9
Honestly. The biggest problem with the castle is the location. In some places that giant middle finger might look good. But not as much in the middle of Ponyville where it sticks out like a sore middle finger.
Unpopular opinion:
I sided with Twilight in the movie. Sure she was pretty rude to Pinkie Pie but I don't blame her. Equestria was taken over by villains that were searching for her since she was the last alicorn and her friends didn't take it as serious as they should have. They were holding musical numbers while Twilight feared for her life. I just wish Pinkie would have apologized to her more. I get it, just like how Fluttershy will never not be shy, Pinkie will never not be silly. Even in serious situations but I just wish they would at least treat it as a flaw.
Wait that's an unpopular opinion ? Were we not suposed to be siding with her ?
She wasn't rude to Pinkie, took her frustation out on her, which is just a bad and Pinkie didn't deserve it, Twilight's words were cruel but this all could've been avoided had they treated her right in the first place, they were the one not acting how friends should, they kept on ignoring her, failed to recognise she was under some serious stress and therefore couldn't bring her the reassurance she clearly needed, plus it's not the first time Twilight is shown to go beresrk when having to deal with too much (Lesson Zero being the best example of this) and they kept on making the task of saving the world much harder for her, even putting all of them (but mostly her since she was the one being tracked down) at hige risk (ahem, the rainboom) only worsening her frustation and anxiety, while what she said wasn't right, it's understandable why she would snap like that. I don't really remmeber if they apologise to her when they make up but they definity should have.
Overall there are some problems with the way they portray Pinkie in later seasons, somethings making her a bit too... selfish ? Like she's constantly hurting others because she is as oblivious as can be and when she gets told to stop just starts mopping around until someone picks her up and does all the work of cheering her up, she was much more likable in earlier seasons imo
Samee
Thank you! I heard someone say that they hate Twilight just for that moment alone, when in reality, it was completely valid.
DUDE YOU ARE SO REAL FOR THAT
@@aiuwapiI do see where you're coming from, but I for one am still, I guess you could say impartial. Or neutral.
I mean, think about their brief confrontation there.
Pinkie: "You didn't really want us to show her the best time ever. You just wanted us to distract her!"
Twilight: "I would never have done it, but this isn't Equestria. We can't just dance around with con-artists, make rainbooms in the sky and expect everything to work out. It's not enough. We're not enough."
Pinkie: "No, Twilight. WE stuck together, WE were gonna get the help we needed. The only thing that stopped us was you."
Twilight: "Well, I'm doing the best I can. It's all on me. I'M the one Tempest wants, I'M the last princess."
Pinkie: "You're also the only one who doesn't tryst her friends."
Twilight: "Well, maybe I would've been better off without friends like YOU!"
Like I said, I understand where you're coming from in regards to Twilight. And you were right, she was anxious about the whole 'Tempest is coming for me' situation, but she didn't need to take it out on Pinkie.
However, I believe Pinkie also had a point.
Take the pirates' ship for example.
Dash makes a rainboom and flies around the ship, which does alert Tempest to their location, and they hide below deck.
Twilight says "we have to get off this ship before they tell Tempest we're here".
And Dash responds "we helped them get their MOJO back. They're not gonna give us up."
Though they didn't know what was going on above them, Dash turned out to be right, because we see the pirates not telling Tempest anything in regards to the ponies.
But Twilight doesn't seem to trust Dash's words as she still finds a way to get off the ship.
It kinda relates to what Celestia told her at the beginning.
"You are the Princess of Friendship. You already have all the magic you need."
It may have been referring specifically to the Friendship Festival, but I think it could be applied to the rest of the film.
So things probably would've worked out if Twilight had actually trusted her friends.
Her suspision of Capper did turn out to be justified, but with both the pirates and the hippogriffs, things would've been okay if she'd actually trusted them and her friends.
It also comes down to what she said toward the end.
"Friendship didn't fail me. I failed friendship."
So Celestia tells her, at the start, that her friends is all she needs to succeed, but because of the whole Tempest situation, she's basically refusing to see that.
(sorry if that seems a little confusing, I put it the best way I could)
I think Chrysalis is one of the most consistent villains in the series since her motives are understandable: she acts based on her survival and her subjects and her rejection to the idea of reforming is also understandable since she felt totally betrayed by the ones she dedicated her life to feed and protect.
Also, great video!
That idea or characterization falls apart completely when you realize that Chrysalis wasn’t abandoned by her Hive; she abandoned them. None of them ran her off or rejected her at all in the Season 6 Finale. In fact, they only followed Thorax because Chrysalis openly said that she’d rather they always feel starving just because she couldn’t let go of her grudge on the Ponies.
Chrysalis, at the end of the day, didn’t care about her Hive or their well-being. She only cared about herself and her feelings of pride. And that’s why she is a pretty bad villain, as she is pathetic without her followers and she ruined their plan in Season 2 (if she could’ve just acted a bit more like Cadance, Twilight wouldn’t have suspected anything).
@@Doomzdeh Personally, I don't agree, but I appreciate that you made a respectful comment and gave me your point of view
Not in the comics lol, In that she hurt a puppy simply cause the cmc were too happy 😂
I'm actually gonna drop an opinion I have here. Thorax, the cinnamon roll that he is and as nice has he is, really isn't providing enough cultural significance to the Changelings. What I mean by that is he doesn't give the changelings any unique identities tied to their past and old traditions that maybe weren't downright horrible, and instead the changelings basically have bastardized pony traditions. Take a look at Ocellus's Hearth'sWarming segment, you'll see what I mean.
I think Applejack is an okay character. I do not understand why so many hate on her. She is strong and just because she has no magic or flight doesnt mean she cant be strong. She also is a farm worker and a horse. Like shes gonna kick ass!
Yeah, Applejack is a great character to me.
I feel like something that makes her different than the others is that she never really had large dreams or aspirations (wanting to make everyone smile, wanting to be a good princess, a wonderbolt…) which is perfectly fine.
She just wants to continue doing her part in her farm and caring for her family, and this desire compliments her well. I was surprised I enjoyed so many funny lines from her and even all the petty conflicts she got into with the others. I always felt that she was a great member to the team.
applejack is the mom of the mane 6
Yeah I actually find that she’s surprisingly nice, level-headed, understanding, calm and grounded most of the time. Good qualities to see in a person. Practical and to-the-point too. Plus nice accent 🍎🤠
@@peanutfrogy9087fr
@@Angeli-KayDefintely feels like the one to ground the rest of the Mane 6 given that and holds as a sense of sanity/normalcy considering.
I wish we got more about Zebras and where Zecora came from in the show. I know we got it in the season ten comic but there wasn’t much time to really explore everything, so it felt rushed. Which is something I can say for most of that comic series.
You don't like the comics?
@@anonymouslucario285 I like them fine. Just wish we got more, you know? That’s all
We went to war with them and eventually they launched balefire bombs at Equestria while we launched megaspells at them.
People like to talk about how much the show expanded the world in the later seasons, but it just utter failed to follow up on things like the Zebras set up in the first season.
Don't we all?
People sometimes say that Discord is bad after becoming a reformed character because he constantly causes problems for Equestria despite being reformed. But I disagree with this
Chaos is unpredictable. You don’t know what it will do next. You can’t know what it will do next. Discord is the embodiment of that
Plus Discord’s actions are mainly to test the other ponies most of the time. I think Spike said it in one of the Season 8 episodes that he does that
To say he’s a bad character is just objectively wrong. Now to say he’s a bad FRIEND would be accurate. He’s a bully to his friends a lot but always either plays the victim or the hero when he’s called on it. I hope his marriage with fluttershy has helped him be more kind to his friends.
@@midnightthesmartfox9981he honestly started pissing me off so bad because of how shitty it is of him to constantly be testing his friends, sometimes in pretty cruel ways (ie: purposefully making twilight feel excluded), without their knowledge. He manipulates them and honestly I’m surprised they’re able to trust him as a friend by the end of the series. It’s always really sweet when the mane six insist on their friendship with him and show genuine care for him but it’s also almost always undercut by him doing something manipulative or conniving.
Discord is a great character. The only time I hated him was with Starlight and the school kids. It took it too far. Have him only mess with Starlight, don’t get Yona almost stabbed to death for something she have no part of. Or if you have to mess with the kids, don’t get them hurt. Stick to simple pranks.
Letting chaos run rampant over Equestria is the price they had to pay when they befriended discord itself, what did they expect anyway?
Not necessarily a hot take. Just an observation. Sweetie Bell will likely grow up to be one of the most powerful unicorns ever.
The later seasons has her teleporting. Which we know is a fairly advanced level of magic.
Twilight struggled with it in season 1 and she basically had the best possible magic teachers.
Sweetie with just some lessons with Twilight is pulling off high level magic barely any time after getting her cutie mark!
wait when did sweetie bell teleport and how?
I don't rememberrr
@@celesetaa3961 in the later seasons. She just starts doing it.
I guess it depends where it went, but the CMC did start taking lessons from Twilight in "Twilight Time", so the development may have just been a result of that.
@@nameynamd9212having possibly the best magic user teach you magic wont change how fast you learn! I totally believe that Sweetie Bell is insanely powerful lol
@@wrightcember Innate ability only does so much without a teacher to focus that talent effectively(considering Sweetie doesn't seem to actively practice complex magic, the mostly simple spells she does can only improve so much).
Here are my hot takes:
1. The way people paired the gen5 gang to gen 4 elements was wrong!
* Izzy is not laughther just because she has a high pitch voice and energetic / fun loving attitude like Pinkie = she's generocity! She loves creating stuff for her friends and community, giving eveyrything she has, she wants to share everything = her culture, her creations and her time with friends.
* Pipp is not generocity, just because she's "fabulous icon" like Rarity. SHE is laughter! She is making everything she can to brighter her followers day, makes music so people can share the joy of it. She is trying to always brighthen up everyone's day, especially her fans.
* Zipp is not loyalty, just because she is a sporty pegasus like Rainbow Dash (like seriously, she abandoned her kingdom and mother in a blink of an eye) she's honesty! It was eating her up from inside that her family lied to the subjects, she had her own strong morals and stayed by them, believing they should never decieve their subjects.
* Hitch is not kindness just because he talks to animals like Fluttershy (jut look how he treated his "best friend" in the movie, na-ah) he's loyalty! He is loyal to his duties and to his childhood friend even when it was really hard and when everypony else in the town turned against her and told him to do the same for his own benefit. He abandoned his mission because he believed in Sunny and his new friends. He is loyal to the town and it's citizens that he promised to serve. The only part that wouldn't fit is his treatment and abandonment of Sprout but let's be honest - the writesr just hate my Red boy and don't want to write him or use in clever ways... eh...
* Sunny was magic, sure, because hse became the alicorn and brought it back but what motivated her throughout the entire adventure was her kindness and the kindness she believed everypony should share and give to oneanother. She is preaching kindness left and right, so maybe it should be Misty who is magic? Don't know, this is where it falls apart a bit... BUT YOU GET MY POINT, RIGHT?
2. The music in Gen5 SUCKS. Not in the movie, no no, movie soundtrack was FIRE but everything else? Just sounds like the same pop album all the time, and I absolutelly HATE that all the songs are in-universe and none of them are musical-types.
3. Zipp characterization took an awfull turn into a completly wrong direction after the movie = in the movie she was a 100% leader type, she was strong, confident in her beliefs and wanted to make good changes (kinda like Sunny) but in the series? She's just another "I'm a tomboy mum, not like the other princesses, I hate royal duties" character, that we've seen 1000 times.
@@PokemonkaDub Your breakdown is solid! I never agreed with the element connections people attached to the 5. Always felt the concept was a stretch ever since I heard it. But this take is excellent and very well supported with evidence! Great work! :D
@@Angeli-Kay Thank you
I love these connections- not only does it make a buildup to Misty make sense, as the missing "Magic" piece, but it also changes up who is most likely to be associated with who- without having a confusing reuse of Kindness for Hitch.
This
I think that anyone who thinks that Zephyr Breeze and Rainbow Dash should be a thing fail to realize exactly HOW Zephyr would rub her in ALL the wrong ways. Rainbow Dash is highly competitive, a go getter, a self-motivated, self-starting mare. Zephyr Breeze is a lazy, featherbrained colt (not stallion) with high aspirations but absolutely no motivation. If they were EVER to attempt any sort of real relationship, it would be so grating in Dash's nerves that she would leave Zephyr in the dust.
She would probably have a better relationship with one of her fillyhood bullies than with Zephyr.
Hard agree! It's funny to think about, but if it were to actually happen... yeah Rainbow Dash would probably leave in a week. They just don't have complimentary personalities, and I doubt Zephyr would be willing to put in the work to actually keep Dash if he managed to snag her.
rarity antis do not understand her character Imo! how can you claim somepony whose element is *generosity* to be selfish, self-centered, and shallow? did we not all watch suited for success??? I believe saying rarity is shallow is a huge mischaracterization, she just leads with her heart over her mind and finds beauty in everypony and everything
Because she does have her moments as did the other ponies
I wish they went over all the main 6's relationships with their siblings more. I just really love those sibling episodes. Also, how did Shining Armor become a royal guard
think it was shown like once but never really brought up why or how he became one
Maybe he met someone cause he and Twilight lived in Canterlot in their childhoods, and he could’ve got training at a young age. Similar to how Twi was taken under Celestia’s wing as a filly.
@@georgiagalaxy or maybe family was in the royal guard
Kind of feel this way about Zephyr Breeze as it did feel like he had a chance to reappear when Rarity's mane was messed up and was something I thought would've been brought up whether in Fluttershy's attempt to help or after.
I personally think Spike was the most underrated/underappreciated character in the entire show. I think it mostly has to do with how he's written in his own episodes but he usually does really well as the main support character imo.
spike the brave and glorious
@@peanutfrogy9087 Interesting that you bring that up. He seems to either not get enough love or too much of it to the point he gets in his own head. 😅
Episodes with Spike are one of my favorite. And I love how he matured through the course of the show. Mah boy!
I was thinking that as well! He is one of the best friends, and more underrated. I loved his attitude on "Lesson Zero", he was so considerate it was surprising. I also really liked how he encouraged Twillight in "Boast Busters", saying what was obvious. His loyalty is also remarkable, and he was way too cute in the first Grand Galloping Galla chapter. Plus, his relationship with Thorax is adorable. In general, I like almost everything about him, except the chapter when he found his """father""". I didn't like his attitude there.
Kinda sad that in 8 seson Tirek was saing "theres ony 6 of you" or some other shît and Spike was keep saying "7". Ppl forget about him :(
I could have sworn the writers stated that Cozy Glow was actually one of those adults who permanently looks like a child despite being much much older.
Me to but different because I had a theory that she eat a flower or something you know the one that turn the cnc into adults but she turn herself into a child to get into the school.
The way I heard it, they never confirmed this was the case. But did not deny the possibility when asked. At least that's what I heard.
That would've made way more sense considering that Cozy Glow was partly based on BabyDoll from Batman as well as Darla Dimple from "Cat's Don't Dance."
I've never heard that, but also that is so much more terrifying. Reminds me of Orphan and that movie TRAUMATIZED me.
That’s my fiancés theory and honestly I think it makes sense despite other fans seemingly hating the idea. But it’d make more sense for them to punish her like an adult if she actually was an adult. They don’t try to reform cozy nearly as much as they tried to reform characters like discord or starlight or even trixie. They make almost no effort at all even. So it’s still odd for them to not try really but it makes more sense if she’s an adult cause writing off a child like that just is out of character for everyone in my opinion.
Can we appreciate how this fandom REFUSES to die? Love it
friendship is forever babes
@ribbon9110 Heck yeah!
"WE. STILL. HERE."
Yessssss
Even though I’ve mostly outgrown the series itself I love watching videos of it and seeing people’s OCs ^^
@@ribbon9110best friends, until the end of time!
The Princess Flurry Heart card is actually a character that makes a lot of sense. At first I thought Hasbro was using her for more toys, but then I realized why she was born as an alicorn. I think each princess represents a different type of relationship. Luna and Celestia symbolize their relationship as sisters (older and younger), friendship in Twilight (of course), Cadence (romantic) love, and finally Flurry Heart the family love between parents and children (which begins the moment the kid is born).
Also, with Tirec having taking all the magic just before she was born, I believe she ended up with an alicorn either to save Equestria is all else fails (hints the oversized wings and horn) OR due to the magic explosion after
If twilights pupil becomes an alicorn, then she may represent a teacher and student relationship, but i’m not sure.
09:50 as someone who struggles with anxiety, it's kind of cruel to call her episodes of overcoming hear fear as "lessons". overcoming anxiety and fear doesn't happen after one victory.
I like Trixie especially because she's mischievous. I think that's likeable to a point. It's also why i loved early Starlight as well as Twilight's and Spike's relationship in earlier seasons, which was more abrasive i think.
like she's shown the right amount and any more could of ruined it
Of course, it's funny when she does bad things after the redempsion bc even if she know she isnt being the nicest, she probably don't think that she'll cause any problems. This makes her not an annoying character, but rather a great acidic comic relief.
I agree with liking Trixie because she’s mischievous, but I hate her attitude in the second episode of season 7. I agree with everything Starlight Glimmer said about her after she finally confessed in that episode.
As for me, to this day I think we should've gotten one season finale or season premiere where Spike was an antagonist or THE antagonist. He was treated pretty unfairly many times without really addressing it, even making it out to a joke. Hell, if Equestria Girls is anything to go by, the universe thinks of him as Twilight's pet, not brother.
Him as an antagonist would've worked similarly to Starlight, but instead of making friends with a stranger, the main group would've have had to work together to make amends with a close friend that they took for granted and treated poorly without realizing it. That would've been pretty good imo.
I know right. in season three they equated him to the pets, or the CMC, but before that he had usually been treated as an equal to the main six
I just don’t see how this could’ve been done effectively though, especially given Spike’s lack of threatening skills. I can’t see him asking a villain like Tirek for help in a plan, and he himself just isn’t very threatening unless he’s mindless from greed.
Overall an interesting idea, but not one that I could see actually being executed well.
I do agree that Spike definitely should have had at least some conflicts with the Mane Six over how he was treated. Heck, Twilight essentially kept him as an unpaid slave! I know they sometimes hinted that he was like a son or brother to her, but she never sent him to school or really spent any quality time with him at all. She just kinda had him take notes and clean her home all the time.
@@The1Ryunot at all, he was made fun of the most in the earliest seasons
@@colorbar.s Everyone was made fun of the most in the early seasons.
This is my issue with spike fans. Spikeabuse wasn’t nearly as bad as you guys make it out to be. fluttershy was abused all the time and no batted an eye
I think people who ship Zephyr and RD forget how pushy Zephyr was to RD. If they got together, it’d feel like RD cracked and was forced into it.
If you can forgive Discord, you sure as hell can forgive Cozy.
For Discord, let's go season by season:
Season 1: He wasn't there quite yet
Season 2: Recognized as a villain, and imprisoned as stone. This was not the first time he did this, so it makes sense
Season 3: Was seen as "reformed"
Season 4-8: Was an absolute pain in the ass to everyone around him, got no punishment, and was seen as reformed
Season 9: LIterally the last season of the show, and with all the "progress" Discord (or should I say Grogar) made, he reset it!
Cozy, on the other hoof:
Season 1-7: Wasn't present. We don't know where she was at the time. Living on the streets? Living with a happy family? Foster care? We don't know
Season 8: She was seen as "good", but it was all a caricature. In the Finale she was sent to literal hell as a *nine year old*
Season 9: Evil. Got the same punishment as Discord, but because of the Finale, we know she was kept in stone.
Discord, as the Lord of Chaos, was given multiple chances to redeem himself. The only thing he did was lower the bar of how far he would go. Cozy, as a third grader, was never given a single chance to be reformed. We don't know how she is like as an actually good person. The "good" Cozy we saw was a caricature.
Yeah.....
I agree that Cozy was never given a chance and she might've just been a broken kid. We don't even know her past!
I see the arguments that she tried to remove magic and conquer Equestria, but thats not so different to other characters like are reformed.
Starlight glimmer inslaved an entire town and stole their cutie marks and later she decided to reset the timeline, after her defeat she was given a chance.
Discord is the lord of choas and he......caused choas in Equestria twice, but was given a chance to reform.
Tempest worked with the storm king and invaded Canterlot and chased the Main 6 outside of Equestria, but was given a chance when she had a change of heart
BUT COZY GLOW.
She tricked everyone and tried to banish magic to become the 'empress' (which I really don't see working well)
APPERANTLY THAT IS UNFORGIVABLE AND SHE GETS SENT TO HELL EVEN IF SHE IS A CHILD.
(I can understand that she tried to remove magic and magic is a big thing of the world but seriously?
And G5 showed that Equestria can survive without magic)
Also don't forget the entire reason she could try to seal all the magic is that Equestria is really bad at securing their ancient artifacts.
@@redholm True. The equestrian government is a whole other conversation…it gets worse in G5 though
@@Nika-the-Troll Lol yea
Yet y'all ignore the fact that Cozy was given multiple chances from the start.
She was literally welcomed into the group of loving friends from the *beginning* who were nothing but kind, helpful and supportive of her. She was manipulating same kindness and openness towards her because *it was all a part of her plan.* She never felt grateful nor touched by all the attention and trust, she never actually liked anyone who tried to help her. She was simply using them.
Discord is a manipulator and a bad friend, but at least he has a strong bond with Fluttershy, the one whom he's ready to fight for. Probably, the only person who touched his heart.
Cozy's heart was touched by noone. She only really wanted control over everyone.
Btw Cozy became a thing as a jab at anyone who was complaining MLP villains get redeemed all the time and it was boring and annoying. Now ya'll complaining one more villain wasn't happily redeemed. (And even if she was, would've her character REALLY been that interesting after all the other options we have?)
Luna and celestia should have switched kingdoms, they just take Luna out for twilight to rule. Luna comes back after being 1000 years just to retire like three years later has always bothered me.
Celestia should have been the only one to retire and teach her sister until shes ready I think would have made the show more entertaining
That’s so true
I thought the same! Like, luna hasn't really ruled for that long, why doesn't she take the throne? Maybe happen in the middle of the series. It would be nice to see luna training twi as equestia's next ruler
@@mxka-b5m exactly my point
super late to the party but I'm rewriting the show from about season 5 onward and I think I'm gonna incorporate that idea when the time comes, thanks!
@@RomanSheep I think that's awesome!
4:40 Speaking of which, Zephyr Breeze was over hated. He wasn’t even a bad guy at all, but just had a problem with being stuck with his parents and barely trying anything due to fear of failure. He has something in common with his sister, they both had conflicting fears they needed to face.
I think a lot of the hate comes from 1. A decidedly deadbeat “hipster” vibe that is very grating irl and 2. the fact that many adult fans of the show found themselves in a similar predicament and didn’t want to admit it 😅
Zephyr was almost a compelling character, but then at the last moment when he had hit rock bottom rather than letting him self reflect and realize his flaws they sang a song and fixed him, but not really. It was painful to watch.
He was lazy because he was afaid of failure and got over it. Okay, understandable. But that doesn't excuse him hitting on Rainbow Dash when she was clearly uncomfortable with it or throwing out his father's cloud collection that was important to him.
Him having realistic traits doesn’t mean that he isn’t obnoxious and overall just cringy to watch.
@@SonarTheBatthe second half of that lines up with narcissism, not considering others' feelings.
Though in that episode, anyone else wonder why the dad said "it's funny that you bring Zephyr up", when he's the one who mentioned him first?
My controversial opinion: I think Sunset Shimmer's development in the Equestria girls movies are very valid! She went from mean popular girl, to helping in with the mane 6, to main leader of the main 5.
I love Sunset Shimmer's redemption too
I've got a controversial take: while the original designs for the Changelings are still really cool, I enjoy the new ones as well! Most real bugs are really colorful (one of my favorites being the rosy maple moth), and they have lots of variations that're really fun to draw - some have that odd translucent fin where a pony's mane would be, some have antlers, they've got all sorts of gradients, their horns sometimes have an extra point, etc.!
Plus, they make sense thematically - Thorax freed them from Chrysalis, who treated them all as replacable drones with no individuality, and their new forms represent their newfound freedom of expression really well (like the head of the Feelings Forum said in S7 E17, "You can be anything you want to be. Be blue one day and purple the next. Be both on the same day!"). As someone who's genderfluid, I can really relate to that, hence why my own OC is a Changeling.
Hot takes:
1. The storm king was a mix of discord and tired and wasn’t a very good villain. You hardly even saw him for most of the movie! And I find it hard to believe that twilight couldn’t destroy tempest in a fight.
I'd have to watch the movie again for a refresher on things, but I do agree on the Storm King. I really like that movie, but he's kinda treated as a joke from what I remember. That's why I always kinda considered Tempest the main antagonist. She was technically an underling, but she seemed far more competent & powerful to the point that, had the Mane 6 not stopped them, I could easily have seen her usurping Storm King's position of power and leadership of his forces.
@@jayonnaise6105 I guess I just thought the franchise already had a whole arsenal of villains (a lot of whom were under used) and it could have been awesome if they had been given more screen time. Or highlighted during the movie, rather than come up with new villain(s) that we had never heard of before.
@@westvirginia-rk1ue Yeah, I can understand that. Especially when you put it that way. I'm not as opposed to the movie having new or previously unestablished villains/characters, I just would have preferred for them to also be featured even a little bit more in the show going forward. The movie is canon but it didn't really have too much bearing on season 7 onwards. Mostly brief mentions if anything.
Since when was not liking storm king an unpopular opinion
@@Nika-the-Troll not sure about unpopular, but maybe controversial
the rainbow dash and zephyr breeze opinion was absolutely terrifying
I really don't like Misty's mane change in g5. The blue mane worked well and looked really nice but the new purples and pinks in her mane do not look good together. I know the new mane is a symbol for her character growth from being bad to going good but wasn't getting her cutie mark enough.
and the fact that almost the whole mane 5 has pink and purple in their hairs doesn't help at all. her blue mane made her stand out 3:|
Mm. At least I agree with those who point out that the colors match the new cutie mark, and I think she's still recognizably Misty in MYM (not so much in TYT though).
@@Longma1 no yeah i agree with it matching her cutie mark it makes sense and it symbolizes her new change with distancing herself from opaline, i think my main problem too is just some g5 designs in general but that's off topic
@@cosm1c741 People took issue with some G4 designs too. Remember Twilight's Castle, and the Rainbow Power forms?
Not that the toyetic design choices matter much to me if they fit the story like they did. . .
Yeah I don’t like the new color either, I miss the old one
Alright, here's my opinion: Flash Sentry and Twilight should have got together but in their pony forms. Twilight and Flash in Equestria Girls could have also worked as well. I genuinely like the pairing between them and it would have been fun to see Twilight have a boyfriend 👍
Could Ave ben but hasbro did him dirty
Hasbro literally gave bro 2 personalities in the 1st Eg movie
1. Likes playing guitar
2. Like twilight
That's it 😭
I don't see alot of people talk about this but the 2D animations on top of 3D backgrounds in the g4 movie was actually really fitting and satisfying to see.
* it also had one of the strongest "Friendship" conflicts in the whole series, the break up scene with Twi and the main 6 with twilight also crying broke me
*Rainbow Roadtrip is also really underrated and I love Kerfuffle
I loved the animation in the 2017 movie! I'm glad they kept the established animation style for the rest of the show's run, but it really felt like they invested a lot of effort into that movie. I also adore the show's typical animation style, but I don't think it would have felt as grand if they kept that for a big theatrical release. Plus the change in animation to me really compliments the narrative in the movie of exploring beyond Equestria, going outside of an established "comfort zone" if you will.
I'm kerfuffle, spelled like it sounds with a double "fff" for the fuff... I really should stop talking now...
Fr i really like her too, mlp is the show in which i regret the most the guests. I would have loved to see ( and hear) fizzlepop berrytwist ( tempest shadow), kerfuffle, automn blaze, coloratura, and others again 😭😭😭
@@nightmarepegasus4141 I'm kinda surprised we didn't see at least Autumn Blaze & Coloratura again. Season 9 seemed like it was trying to bring most everyone back for at least one more appearance.
Yeah Rainbow Roadtrip was not bad! I quite liked it. 🌈
Yeah, living in color is my fave song in that special.
I may be bias because she’s my favourite but Applejack is easily one of the more interesting characters out of the mane 6. Unlike them, her backstory is more subtle and requires more digging. Like how her parents died making her take on more work and eventually becoming a workaholic.
I think AJ and Rainbow should have each others elements. Rainbowdash has been shown several times to say her honest opinion and then learn or see how it hurt people around her. AJ is more about loyalty because a lot of her character is about being a part of the Apple Family (see how she got her cutie mark). AJ is also usually the first one to help and towards the end of the series (specifically the We're Not Perfect song) she even says how she can be too eager to please. Heck, She and the other Apples went on a road trip with Pinkie to find out if she was blood related to them.
Thank you for protecting Fluttershy there :3
Anytime! 😀
i miss the old twilight. they kind of phased out her quirks. people said she was very autistic coded. she was a hermit, blunt, didn’t really know how to socialize around other people, anxious, a little awkward, n didn’t worry about conforming either. i wish there was a way they could’ve kept her, must’ve lost a writer along the way. it’d be way more interesting to see her keep that part of herself while also being a princess of friendship, maybe with the hermit thing phased out a little as she enjoys socializing more when she has the mental capacity for it
g4's reboot would've been a better ideia than g5's new link to the mane six
Well, I can see why people would think that way, tho we can’t Always have faith for the writers to do a good job.
Only reason why people would definitely want that is just to see are characters again, pretty much the purpose of a reboot usually.
100% agree
Here's a fun controversial take: Equestria Games is a GREAT episode. While I get that it's an anticlimactic end to the sub-arc it'd been setting up for two seasons, it's still a great episode on its own detached from that, and I feel just being a sports episode by itself would've been boring. Not just that, but it's really good commentary on struggling with accepting your mistakes and acknowledging the good things you do. It was great for Spike in terms of character development, miles ahead of Power Ponies earlier that season.
Also, the majority of Spike episodes are good actually, but no one is ready for that take just yet.
Thank you !
Not sure if these are controversial or not but here goes:
• FIM never got truly bad. While I agree the latter seasons are incredibly different to the early ones in many ways and have some stinker episodes (looking at you Yakity Sax, Cart before the ponies and 2 4 6 greeeat) i think the overall quality was still exceptionally high throughout them and by extension the overall series.
• Mlp G5 was never good. The movie had great visuals and Hitch was a great character and….that’s it. It had an uninspired and dull story that had no concern for consistency with a boring main character in the form of Sunny
It never got “bad”. But later seasons, definitely seemed more wonky and predictable. I believe it could have been from new writers introduced or something.
It aggravated me that there was a point I’d watch new episodes and predict exactly what the characters would do and say before it happened. It was boring and freaky at the same time. That wasn’t the case for season 1-6 for me.
But I agree the show, aside from little character and writing gripes, still maintained very high quality to the end.
@@Angeli-Kay I understand what you mean and to an extent I agree. It’s absolutely infuriating in any show or movie or even book franchise where you can guess everything about a story while watching or reading it even what the writer wants to be a twist.
Although, as the avid season 7 and 9 defender as I am, the later seasons were still very capable of surprising the audience in interesting ways. The Perfect Pear is a perfect example of this on top of many others. I’d also say that the early seasons were not free from this issue either, particularly in season 1, where if you’ve watched any other cartoons you’d know where the story is headed. Dragonshy and Best Night Ever are good examples of this where the middle of them drags on and becomes a chore to get through as they are basically restating the same information over and over again to service the breaking point and the climax.
I’d also say that sometimes being able to predict what a character will say can be a good thing but only if the way you are predicting it is through established information you are given of that character - if you can do that then the writers have successfully crafted a well-rounded character. If it’s just by the fact that the characters themselves are in a generic situation then that’s bad writing.
@@thediamondtank Good points! Thanks for responding! I agree the Mane 6 and many beyond are very well-rounded characters. Later seasons did pull off some surprises and cool discoveries with new ponies, magic, and worlds -but I wouldn’t say I experienced the same for the main & secondary characters.
My first comment was referring to character journeys and set-ups the series developed over time, rather than the world-building, villains and such. I guess I had a craving to explore more sides of the characters but sometimes it felt stagnated to me.
For example, Rainbow Dash becoming a Wonderbolt not only felt anticlimactic in how she achieved it, but this didn’t affect much in her life. There wasn’t much explored or added to her character from getting her long-awaited dream.
I don’t know, I always felt I wanted to characters respond a bit differently to some things that happened. I wanted to learn NEW things about them. I really like both Discord and Trixie, but both are treated as never-changing, burdensome comic relief. With how much screen time they got, I wondered why they couldn’t have more depth. And there are many things I wished was built into Starlight Glimmer’s reformed character to give it more flair, which was my earlier hot take.
All that said, this show had many characters and stories to balance over 9 seasons. All the details they managed to include and keep up with is impressive! I personally might be leaning more towards the slice-of-life, coming of age side of the show and things seemed like they switched gears into a more high stakes and action-packed style as the show went on which probably decreased some of that. The show never got bad, I think it was just shifting its focuses over time.
@@thediamondtank people act like g4 fell off but it really didn’t . People just moved on from the fandom
Not really a controversial opinion, but something no one, or very few, have ever thought. Sandbar should've been a Crystal pony. We could've gotten more insight on the Crystal Empire, as well as some more Crystal pony trivia. Plus, Sandbar's relationship with other student six could be a bit more interesting. Gallus would try to be "best friends" with him for him being a living gem stone, and Smolder would have to deal with trying not to eat him.
I agree, that would have made his character more interesting. I mean, you had so many other species types, a dragon, a griffin, a changeling, a water-pony-thing, a yak, and then just a pony. I get that it makes the most sense for a pony to be in that group of friends, but next to all the other fantastical characters, he just seemed so *dull.* Making him a crystal pony would definitely have helped with that, and I always liked episodes involving crystal ponies and the crystal kingdom.
I think bold banter bonanza is a great idea for a video series.for fans to express their opinions or just have fun with a opinion they have or had.also cozy glow is best tiny villan pone and great vid
Honestly... Trixie is very self absorbed and doesn't even try to change but that's exactly why I love her xD
That’s not true. Trixie gets great character development in later seasons.
@@tesslichtman7302 not rly. She still acts mostly the same. She just doesn't activly try to beat Twilight anymore. She is still super selfish and thinks that she is the best. Or "great and powerfull" ;)
@@Sway22 "not rly"
>nearly sacrifices herself to help the changelings
>helps starlight and sunburst reconnect
>evacuates the school of friendship before chrysalis attacks
>implied to have given up her lifelong dream of becoming a magician to become the school councillor just to appease starlight
ok 👍
@@4zy1 none of those points are contarguments to the characteristics I described and are just some of her actions. It's like describing just her good stuff and ignoring the other ones :/. And the last one isn't even true/we don't know.
@@Sway22 The point that the comment or is trying to make, is that these actions show that Trixie has become a good pony. But just because somebody grows into a better person doesn’t mean that their entire personality is going to be rewritten. Trixie is always going to have quirks that make her uniquely her. But that doesn’t mean that she hasn’t changed or grown.
One of the best developments for Shy was her Nightmare Night episode. She tried it, she was daaaaaamn good at scarring ponies for life (with the help of Satan himself in bunny form), but she said it was not for her and she no longer wanted to participate. That was pretty awesome.
"It Ain't Easy Being Breeze" is defintely up there, too.
@@nameynamd9212 yes it was. That was also good and natural character development for Shy.
Yes I completely agree! I just revisited it yesterday, and it holds a place in my heart because I myself have HATED Halloween or anything scary since I was small. I would have full blown panic attacks and scream at the top of my lungs on the street whenever my dad or family members tried to push me out trick or treating or leaving me on the street whenever they wanted to go to a haunted maze. I now am a little better and I handle the anxiety surrounding the holiday a little better, but it just isn’t my cup of tea, as Fluttershy puts it. I felt really represented by this episode, and I don’t feel so alone! ❤❤
@@rebel1281 I myself am annoyed by this time of year. I'm not scared but all this constant gore and horror and macabre sh!t is a real downer. Then I discovered Nightmare Night and I can totally get behind a celebration of Luna and Nightmare Moon. If it wasn't for Nightmare at the end of episode 1 I probably would not have gone on to 2 🤔
"Satan himself in bunny form" The best description of Angel I've ever seen. Also loved that episode sm.
Twilight sparkle is a fantastic character and gets too much hate! SHES THE MAIN CHARACTER GOD DAMMIT why should it be so Outlandish to say she’s my favorite? She’s not rude, she’s not a bad character, her writing is amazing! SHE IS SO OVERHATED!! Justice for twilight
Love Twilight 💜
Same! I can relate to some of her personality traits
Justice for them
The fact that in 200+ episodes they never did an episode where one of the main 6 starts losing faith in her element (like Rarity after being betrayed for her generosity) and as a result they wouldn't be able to immediately defeat a villain is kind of a waste.
That's an interesting take on Trixie. I'm inclined to agree.
And for Cozy Glow, I think there are two things that make her a compelling villain. One is that she's really smart, so she manipulates everyone in interesting ways and creates a lot of tension and unexpected twists.
The other is that she fits well into the overarching theme for the season. Equestria is opening itself to non-pony creatures from different kingdoms, and these creatures are struggling to fit in and assimilate Equestria's values and culture, and they are met with suspicion and hostility, or even pity, from time to time. Meanwhile, Cozy is the quintessential cute little pony, complete with a pink and baby blue color scheme and a bow. The least person anyone would suspect. And then she turns out to be one of the most dangerous and sadistic villains, and basically almost destroys the whole world. It shows how prejudices are not only hurtful and unfair, but they also blind you to where the real threats are, and facilitate the work of bad actors who happen to fly under your radar.
In fact, I'm kind of paraphrasing a video from Flash Macintosh, who made an amazing series of analyses of all the villains. But it's in Spanish.
True, and she clearly has a psychological problem, she can't become kind unlike chrisalis who could have rather being kind and feed like her children ( civilizely), or most other villains
Cozy Glow is not smart though. Everyone around her turned into an idiot for the sake of plot just to make her look "smart".
I think that's what her cutie mark stands for, since it's a chess piece, and chess is often used as a metaphor for manipulation in certain circumstances
I don't know if this is actually a controversial opinion or not, but Appledash being canon was not a good ending. They're like the only ones out of all the mane six (besides Pinkie and AJ) that seem like just friends.
they have like no good romantic chemistry, if Applejack was to be with any of the Mane 6, Rarity would have made way more sense.
The show's premise was about their friendship, not romance, so in my opinion none of the Mane 6 should have gotten with each other. The romance aspect could kinda screw with that friendship's foundation.
I despise AppleDash as a ship. It is so stereotypical to make the less feminine characters lesbian, just because they are more masculine than the others. One of them okay, but both of them I think is just enhancing the stereotypes that lesbians can't or aren't feminine. Then this is only worsened for me as I think making two of the Mane 6 a couple to begin with is not a good choice as it sort of butchers the point that the whole story is about their friendship, not their romance.
I totally agree on it ruining the friendship aspect. Like I get it. The chemistry and the bond and all are there but not every friendship needs to become romantic
i agree! although there was a competitive sort of dynamic with appledash as well, i think rarity and applejack had a lot more chemistry.
Exactly! And I'm pretty sure Apple dash are cousins? @@zmrico
@@Drenched_InPurpleYou might be thinking of Applejack and Pinkie Pie (I've rewatched every episode 15 times and all movies)
@@Drenched_InPurple I think that's pinkie and apple
9:17 How is that controversial? Literally everyone thinks that.
5:00 uh ewwww.
I don't even think Zephyr Breeze likes Rainbow Dash. I think he likes the idea of someone liking him. I think Zephyr likes himself more than he likes Rainbow Dash or even the idea of being with her.
Isn't his whole shtick that he's self absorbed? Isn't Rainbow's whole shtick that she's self absorbed? To an extent. I think Rainbow is redeemable in that sense, unlike Zephyr Breeze. RD wouldn't be part of the mane six, a whole group centered around friendship, if she wasn't able to look past her nose and think about something other than how cool she is.
My controversial opinion
The way they treated mental break downs is very unpleasant. Such as Twilight Sparkle panicking over learning that she will be ruling over Equestria. You don't just make jokes when someone is panicking. It's like when someone is having a seizure and everyone thinks you're dancing and joining you while you're suffering...ok that might not be a perfect example but you get it...right?
Respectfully disagree. As another example to this, Fluttershy many times showed evidence of flat-out social anxiety disorder. She has similar meltdowns and moments of panic put in a exaggerated manner. I don’t feel her plight is inappropriate.
This is not to invalidate any unpleasant feelings you had when you watched moments like that in the series, I would just argue there shouldn’t be roadblocks against being able to write various takes on our human vulnerabilities, even when it approaches disorders.
Children’s cartoons involve exaggeration and sometimes a lighter portrayal of issues. This could be a potential problem if they were ever created with malicious intent. But this is not the case for Twilight in MLP. Her full story is about overcoming this problem. (Same with Fluttershy showing moments of stress and fear, gradually becoming more confident from her life lessons) Her full character arc throughout the series is her achievement of maturity as well as not pressuring herself so much and trusting in her friends. That episode and the series is a victory story for her! It’s not a misery pit to beat her down and degrade her as a person. There was no dancing or anything like that.
Oftentimes in the show, the other characters are extremely concerned toward the breakdowns and desire to help. When people (same for children), watch Mlp episodes take on panic or likewise, it seems they can walk away feeling hope by the end. And I feel that is the writers’ intention. I’ve seen many touching stories written in posts and comment sections of fans saying they relate to characters like Twilight and Fluttershy and sharing their feelings of how their victories helped inspire them.
It's just meant to be light-hearted and comedicly exaggerated. Think of it like slapstick humor: It's funny to see a cartoon character get electrocuted. It's not funny to see a real person get set on fire (and, if it is to you, then you should probably talk to a professional about that).
It's not fair to criticize something for being unrealistic and not taken seriously when it's not trying to be realistic or serious.
@@KidPrarchord95 I get it, really I do. It just makes me feel uncomfortable even if it's just a cartoon for "baby's".
I completely agree with you. I don’t get why this issue is viewed as okay just because MLP is a kids show. What about a show like Steven Universe Future, which is also a lighthearted cartoon for kids but tackles mental health seriously? Or even Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, an animated kids film that has funny moments but the protagonist having a panic attack is not one of them.
In the later seasons of MLP, Twilight’s mental health wasn’t handled well at all. She essentially gets over her anxiety offscreen and her friends act toxic and OOC in season 9 when they mock her issues. The show didn’t do a good job handling this topic at all and is just one of the ways in which Twilight as a character was done dirty. MLP being a lighthearted children’s show isn’t an excuse since there are other shows and movies aimed at the same audience that tackled this subject better. Thanks for speaking up about this since it’s something I’ve been concerned about for a while now so I’m glad to see others noticed this problem too!
There’s a difference between having a seizure and a panic attack.
My hot take to make shippers mad: Apple Jack should've ended up with Rarity. I feel like Rainbow Dash is more of a career pony yk? I think the wonderbolts would keep her too busy for a relationship. I feel like Apple Jack and Rarity ended up having better chemistry near the end of the series anyway. (Also Rainbow Dash is best pony).
you get it! this guy gets it!! thank you for existing, my friend!!
Some of my own Bold Banters, just to join the fun:
•In hindsight, Sunny does deserve her Alicornhood for taking more of an active role in taking down the systems that separated ponies- I just think she should've, outside of IDW, took more initiative in the absence of non-pony species, maybe even studying why Sparky was born with wings, but Spike wasn't.
•Flash was likely only "bad" because he felt like a forced love-interest, rather than a character introduced as-is who happened to be a love interest.
•I don't like SciTwi having wings in her pony-up forms. If there's anyone who should, it would be Sunset.
•Pipp should learn to be more accepting of Zipp.
•And not as bold, but I will never like Dog Spike outside of that one Rarity joke.
It’s funny you mention SciTwi having wings in her Pony Up form because she didn’t have wings when her, Rainbow and Sunset went to Equestria
@@midnightthesmartfox9981 Precisely that, making it seem extra confusing about the wings- unless it's supposed to "balance the ratio"? Except the unicorns don't have an extra horn thing?
I thought scitwi had wings because pony twilight had wings. It’s the same for human Fluttershy and rainbow dash
@@dragonfire1466 True but this isn’t Equestria Twilight who was an Alicorn
It’s SciTwi, who’s just a normal unicorn
@@midnightthesmartfox9981 I don’t understand what you’re trying to say? I was replying to op. It makes sense for scitwi to have wings in her pony up form because rainbow dash and flutter shy do to. They just mimic their equestrian form except the unicorns for whatever reason. But since scitwi didn’t earn wings when she goes to equestria she is just a unicorn. It’s like they draw power from their equestrian form when pony up and copy their traits
I think rainbowdash should have been the alicorn. She’s the whole reason her friends have their cutiemarks and she did it to try and save her friend. If not for her equestra would be in shambles.
YESSS
I love Silver Spoon, Diamond Tiara and Peppermint Twist. Twist was discarded by Apple Bloom and the writers after she lost her VA in season 2 and Diamond and Silver were mostly forgotten and never heard from again when the CMC got their marks in season 5. Diamond especially hed a lot of potential to watch her grow and change into a better person. Silver got her best character moment in the background of season 6 On Our Marks while Apple Bloom sang about how directionless her life is after getting her mark.
Apparently the writers wanted to make more Diamond Tiara/Silver Spoon episodes after S5, but Hasbro rejected the pitch. Execs believed neither of them had story potential after they became friends with the CMC.
@@Commenter839 Well, that's the thing. They didn't become friends in the show. DT and SS were never seen with them again. They were only in the background.
They did in the comics. Diamond especially had many positive interactions with her new friends. IDW was far more kind to Dia, Spoony and Twist.
Though the show did give my girls one last touching scene together in the background of the last episode. Even though what they did to Twist's body was horrifying and Spoony's mane was a mess. At least all three were together. ;^_^
10:57 I disagree he's fun
7:35 He's related to FlutterShy and he got this ability through blood /jk
My controversial opinion
I think the implication that Rainbow Dash and Applejack are a couple in the final episode dosen’t really work. Nothing against LGBT people its just there really weren’t that many hints that Applejack or Rainbow Dash were gay or bisexual, and their relationship didn’t really add up to it because all they had was a friendly rivalry and no hints of romance. In fact Rainbow had more chemistry with Soarin than anyone else
Yes, Rainbow Dash should be with Soarin.
I agree so much. it's also kinda yucky that the most boyish members of the 6 were made the lesbians, especially so because ONE HAS "GAY" HAIR. stereotype much?
@@NightCloudI you're so right. that woulda been such a fun dynamic to be explored as a b-plot!
oh well, at least I could write some fanfic about it or something. AO3 needs some more good SoarinDash and I need to sharpen my prose skills.
1. AWESOME VIDEO!!!
2. My contribution: What Discord did in the finale, while obviously a huge mistake, does not give me anger like it does for others. He is CHAOS, he is never going to do things in a "logical" way, because that would go against his very being. I think his actions can be forgiven, because he had Twilight's best interests at heart. It is kinda like what you said about Fluttershy. She will never not be shy, and Discord will never not be Chaotic.
This comment is so underrated-
You can be chaotic WITHOUT being cruel. When Discord started to disappear for being "too normal" all Fluttershy had to do is to move some furniture in order to cure him.
Also the defense "he had the best interest for Twilight" does not mean anything when he gives zero shits about everyone else being affected. If he is always going to just put the world in danger simply bcuz of his "nature" then he should be put to back in stone.
@@TOMNICE You bring up some very good points, I will not deny that. I fully agree that he went too far, and should not have done it, but like I said, It doesn't anger me as much for some reason. Maybe I am too much of a positive person, but to me, others have been forgiven for much worse.
1. The road to hell is paved with good intentions
2. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or in this case the one (being Twilight).
@@whitewolf1310 Another valid point, and I agree, like I said, that it was stupid of him to do is, I am just saying that, to me, it is not as annoying as other people think it is.
Plus, other villains argueably did worse.
The show got better after Faust left
Ooh! Bold banter!
ALSO, opinion opinion.
Rainbow dash is a good character.
she's my favourite. always has been.
My unpopular opinion: I hate Starlight Glimmer and I will never forgive her for replacing my beloved Twilight Sparkle as the main character of the later seasons
Rainbow dash had way more chemistry with spitfire than applejack and they should’ve explored that relationship. While we’re here applejack and rarity had more chemistry too but I don’t think that opinion is as controversial
The G4 IDW comics are objectively better than the show they're based on. Don't get me wrong, without Friendship is Magic being as good as it is, we wouldn't have the comics. They only came into being two years into the show's run, after all.
But the comics give more exploration and depth to the characters, especially those that aren't nearly as prominent in the show like Celestia, Big McIntosh, and even Prince Blueblood. As a matter of fact, the comics are what made me appreciate the characters more, especially Rainbow Dash. And that is just scratching the surface of why they are better.
Someone ought to make this a video
@@gunjfur8633 People have talked a bit about the comics, either covering the issues or arcs, or discussing the comic in general. But I don't think anyone has spoken about them the way I am addressing them, here.
The comcis are hit or miss. When they are good they are better then FiM but when they are bad oh boy. Those comics have some genuine TRASH in them
@@MILDMONSTER1234 Oh, yes, there are some pretty bad comics in the lineup... But hey, at least they're not nearly as terrible as the lowest points of the show itself.
6:10 I very heavily disagree with this statement. Romeo and Juliet were total strangers. The whole point of the story is that they were terrible for each other.
Bright Mac and Pear Butter knew each other their entire lives and grew to love one another over that time.
(Also I don't think Romeo and Juliet deserves to be Shakespeare's most famous story, but that is besides the point.)
I think the changelings became a lot more interesting after their change in season 6 onwards. They were just goons that all looked the same before, but now they were more colorful (and thus easier to tell apart) and the idea of a species getting the chance to develop brand new culture for themselves while dealing with the fear and guilt of what they used to be is fascinating.
I like that they are good now but I like their old design better.
i think celestia is underrated and very cute, silly character
I like Trixie. I like how extravagant and annoying she is, I find it entertaining, and I like her a lot as an antagonist. I also like her as a protagonist, as she seems to lack some social awareness and is often viewed by the characters in the show as “annoying and self-centered” which is fair on their part, but as someone who was often called “too loud and annoying” I relate to her struggles. I actually think she has some similarities to conflicts people have with Pinkie Pie, except Pinkie Pie is much less morally dubious and self centered.
Yup!😊
Grogar was THE BIGGEST LETDOWN IN THE HOLE SERIES!!!
I know I'm gonna get hate for this but, To this day I for one would've liked to have seen Chrysalis temporarily as a reformed Changeling emphasis on "temporarily" because while it would've been nice just to see what Chrysalis would've looked like as a reformed Changeling, It probably wouldn't have lasted long because Chrysalis can change on the outside all she wants but her heart is too dark for her to change completely so even if she did transform into a reformed Changeling she would've reverted back to her regular form.
And I still remember the two main reasons why people said that they didn't want Chrysalis to reform, Is because they thought that another reformed villain arc is the last thing that the show needed and because the show was already running low on top quality villains as it was.
I can agree with wanting to see a reformed Chrysalis, even if only briefly. It's not canon, but I think they may have designed one for the MLP Gameloft mobile game
Gonna be honest this is more of a fandom unpopular opinion than of the actual show but, I don't think alicorn ocs are as bad as people make them out to be.
Controversial take: I don't think Discord's big screw up in the end of the final season was as stupid as many thought it was. Like with Fluttershy's anxiety, Discord's had his own issues with change. For one, he's been alone for *years,* so he's not gonna know everything about friendship. Two, he's also been used to having things go his way for just as long, so the idea of his little arrangement backfiring probably didn't even cross his mind.
Was it still careless? Hell yeah, it was, but I wouldn't go as far as to say reformed Discord was a bad idea. He may be old, but that doesn't mean he still doesn't have a lot to learn.
He did have the whole Sombra situation under control to his credit.
@@nameynamd9212 He did! It just didn't help him with his whole "Everything goes just as I plan" thought process either.
Funny enough his plan did work in a roundabout way anyways
Honestly. Maybe Discord needs a bit of therapy. Your never too old to talk about your problems Discord.
Starlight glimmer is the most boring character and ruined mlp
Human twilight shouldn't have wings - if anyone than human Sunset should have them
Flury Hart shouldn't have been born alicorn
The seasons finale with twilight growing why others get older is horrible
Controversial opinion time: I don't really like Big Mac x Sugar Belle.
Yes Im the first to comment. Im going to love this series. Also, PANCAKES ARE BETTER THAN FRENCH TOAST!
That’s true my friend
🔥 I respect your opinion 🔥
The Perfect Pear did Romeo and Juliet better than Romeo and Juliet in my opinion.
Definitely, as someone who recently did an essay analysing Romeo and Juliet, The Perfect Pear did an infinitely better job. The story of Romeo and Juliet takes about 3-4 days. That’s an extremely quick time to fall in love, get married, and die for each other. The Perfect Pear spaced it out, and showed us them falling in love over time.
I think we can all agree that equestria girls should have had a proper conclusion~
Some of my own MLP opinions.
1) EqG should not have been set in a high school. None of the plot had any logic to it. Sunset can apparently raid a guarded castle, but not a high school. Twilight can apparently run for prom queen without formally being a student at said high school. Twilight is a young adult as a pony, but only a teenager as a human (not to mention all the other characters, like Celestia... or even The Dazzlings).
2) Twilight and Flash romance was a missed opportunity. I know it was dropped due to butthurt backlash, but they genuinely had a bit of chemistry. Ignoring all the SciTwi stuff, Flash would eventually meet Twilight face-to-face... and they don't even acknowledge each other. What a waste! Speaking of romance:
3) Rarity going her own way. Rarity was the only character who embraced the magic of romance and frequently fawned over handsome men of different shapes and sizes. So, of course, when the show ends the only pony who canonically, unquestionably, without a doubt got hitched and started a family was... Pinke Pie? What?
4) The Young Six were squandered. They were no doubt meant to be the new generaion of the Elements of Harmony, and they even rebuilt the Tree of Harmony. Yet they don't have that as much content going forward as they really should. They could have had great bonding stories with their respective Element/Pillars, but oh well. Speaking of Pillars, they may as well not exist, only having any roles in 3-4 episodes since their introductions. Really sad. On that note:
5) The show has far too many characters and uses far too few of them. Too many episode specifically focuses on the Mane 6 and their most immediate connections. The show would have been well-served to use side characters instead of main characters more often. Maybe Rarity tried to get Applejack to join The Pony Tones, but after getting stuck hanging out with Big Mac for the day, she finds out he loves singing and is really good at it. Could have been fun!
6) MLP:FiM never did villains very well. Worst examples being:
- Nightmare Moon wants eternal night... this would just kill everyone.
- Queen Chrysalis and her changelings feed on love, but instead of body snatching the citizenry like she did Cadance, she orders an open assault and terrorise the ponies. Why?
- Starlight Glimmer's villainy makes no sense. She takes ponies' special talents away from them, and then has them do things they are not good at. All because her friend moved out of town in her youth, and she couldn't just move on or try to keep in touch?
7) Gen 5 probably should not have been a sequel. After everything that was Gen 4, Gen 5 clearly only wanted to be a sequel to help with sales. There was no plan, no idea, no inspiration. They just hoped some other writer would come up with some good excuses for why everything turned to muck. And what did they come up with? Another pony who wasn't Cosy Glow tried to do a racism... again. And this time Twilight and all of Equestria fell into total chaos and never recovered. Also all non-pony races appears to have been genocided, or something. Thank you, I hate it!
hard agree on points 4 and 6 - what frustrates me about the student 6 is the fact that shells of likable characters are there for all of them, except for gallus, whose one trait is that he's so terminally irony poisoned that he's incapable of genuine friendships. they're just painfully redundant, too, and that's because the writers who got to play with them threw that time in a fire and stacked their scripts with flavor dialogue.
as for the villains, yes, intelligence was the exception among them, but what they add to the story as a whole is a bigger problem in my opinion. what did chrysalis's existence add to the story? she uppercut an existing theme about controlling behavior in favor of the shreds of a theme about trusting your gut or something. what did she add after this episode? eugenics!! ever since I saw the times they are a changeling, suddenly the eugenicist rhetoric of "ALL of them are evil and bad, but not thorax, he's the good one" dawned on me and left a very poor taste in my mouth. I know I'm not interpreting this in bad faith because the foundational philosophical and pseudoscientific beliefs of racism, such as guilt by association and "criminal nature" in sentients, are still peddled by the ones who are supposed to be the good guys. and starlight is simply the worst antagonist I've ever seen for the reasons you listed, plus she feels like a garbage straw man of equality-favoring politics, and that sort of awkward place where the writers think they have something to say when they really don't is always painful to watch. it also paints a very ugly picture of the MLP writing staff when lined up with MLP's insidious racism problem. now, do I think the MLP writers are overtly racist? no, but all of this botchery of anything having to do with equality doesn't make a good case for that
Starlight's backstory could've easily made more sense if she tried to make more friends or had more friends before Sunburst that she lost due to them getting their cutie marks
I really miss the season 1 voice acting, I don’t know what it is about it but I just absolutely love majority of the line deliveries especially from Twilight, Applejack, and Luna + Nightmare Moon.
AJ's voice was so cute, i like the idea of having someone like her who is pretty tough having a more soft voice, plus it fits well with her having a soft side, I know Ashleigh wanted her and Rainbow to sound more diffrent but even RD's voice changed and got a bit deeper overtime, i like her season one voice which was quite high and raspy, really cute
But y'know it's probably nostalgia speaking, Ashleigh is an amazing VA and vocalist and she is perfect in those roles
They grew up, so did we.
Flash is an underrated character and I like him more over Timber, and I also like Flash’s romance with Twilight more than Timber and Sci-Twi.
Most like him more then timber
Rairity is way more interesting then people give her credit for. I love her very much
11:23 She is the great and powerful Trixie
Like, how awesome is that?
(In a slightly more serious note I like her voice and see how she cares about others in her own way {mostly starlight})
I think Shining Armor and Cadence were a bit underutilized. For one, Shining Armor is Twilight’s brother. His magical abilities may not be on par with Twilight’s but he’s still a force to be reckoned with.
As for Cadence, she’s an alicorn! A princess. There’s definitely times when she would’ve been so helpful. I understand the show is about Twilight and her friends but what about her family? They matter too dang it.
I think it could be interesting to see a young Cadence when she was a pegasus or when she got her horn and struggled to use magic
i like that equestria girls had the humans be coloured in non-human like colours because it gives an opportunity to the viewers to interpret their beloved character’s races & skin tones however they’d like & in a way could feel represented :)
Ok heres my hot take and I need to preface that this is coming from a trans person. I hate the Big Mac trans woman theory. All of it comes from the Brotherhooves social episode. Its annoying to see a male character show some sort of femininity or express a liking for dressing fem and immediately everyone says hes a trans woman. People are enforcing gender roles by immediately assuming that feminine presentation means female. The episode was supposed to be showing that Big Mac would go far to help his sister and regain their bond. And its weird to me that people switched it to a trans thing. Big Mac is just a guy that enjoys being fem sometimes. Maybe hes a drag queen
I'm a huge starlight stan. I think she's just SUCH a failure that it's hilarious. People say she's like s1 twilight but she's NOT
She's SO. MUCH. WORSE.
She absolutely does want to get better. That's her whole thing. But she has -10000 social skills in anything that isn't brainwashing and it's so much fun to watch. (At least at first)
Like yeah she was let off the hook really easily for some truly heinous stuff, but what could be a better way to keep an eye on the strongest unicorn in equestria than to make her your friend?
Having recently started to rewatch the show (and EqG) after loving it as a kid but falling off it around Season 4, I've got some (no idea how controversial they are though lol)
1: I just can't get into Starlight. I don't think she's the worst thing ever - her debut as a villain is great, her design is cute and I love her VA - and I'm not against her redemption, but it really feels like they're trying to push her so hard as a new 'Mane 7' member and it's just not doing it for me. Plus oh god, her reason for brainwashing an entire village and abusing time to prevent the Mane 6 from ever meeting was so stupid, and she gets barely a slap on the wrist/hoof for all the hell she caused? I'm not done (just finished A Royal Problem, absolutely loved it, why did it take this long to get a Celestia and Luna episode?) so maybe she gets better as the series goes on but... bleh.
2: Also, I'm not really a fan of Sci-Twi either - as charming as she is in Friendship Games. This one's probably just the TwiSet shipper in me but I miss Pony Twilight and I feel like Sci just usurped her place in EqG. She doesn't have the previous relationships and chemistry Pony Twi had with Sunset and the Human 5, plus she just... gets alicorn wings. Like my girl Twilight had to _earn_ those. In all fairness, I've only seen the movies though.
3: I love her but tbh I preferred Luna's character in the earlier seasons, especially in S2/3. I remember finding it really unique and nice how despite all she went through and did as Nightmare Moon, instead of sitting around and sulking about it, she actively sought to help herself and other ponies. You could really see how she learnt from Nightmare Moon and tried to engage with her subjects in her own way, so it's a shame she's seemed to have regressed into a more generic, broody character who wants to be alone all the time - just feels odd considering after everything that happened and how she was originally. (As an aside, Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep was horrible.)
4:29 that just made me realise that AJ looks so human like real human compared to every one else 😅
AppleDash should not be a thing they are to similar as characters and it doesn’t makes sense for Apple Jack to not have her own children. There I said it *mic drop* ➿️🎤
Hot take, but here goes.
I don't think everyone should've been mad at rainbow for snapping at her parents. It was shown throughout the episode they were doing a bit much, they had convos about it before according to the dialogue, and they were very disruptive. She knows what they're like and said she does love them, she just didn't want them to be that extra and that i can understand. She could talk to them again, but that apparently didn't work since parents do what parents do. And a person... er, um pony can only take do much. It can get exhausting after a while. Scootaloo being upset with rainbow makes sense since her situation with her parents, but wasn't in the right either. But the understanding at the end was nice and felt right for them.
This episode suuccckked. Rainbow Dash was 110% right and she was demonized for no reason. And it ruined Scootaloo for me, not that she was an interesting character before but yeah screw this episode and it's very toxic moral
Bears
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Bears are cool bears, change my mind
Oh I have the worst opinions.
The best seasons of MLP was season 4-5.
And Magical Mystery Cure was a great episode, and i'm sick of denying it.
bro you're so right. Season 4 was PEAK.
About the Fluttershy thing, I think one of, if not my most favorite Fluttershy episodes (or episodes in general) is the Halloween one where her friends realize that it's _okay_ if she doesn't want to participate in the activities. It's perfectly normal and fine for some people to be more sensitive to things! And we shouldn't ever put anyone down for that, and consider everyone when making plans or having fun :]
Ok here’s something I feel very strongly about: Rainbow Dash and Applejack are a very lazily chosen couple, and them being together in the finale physically hurts me. I have a problem with RD being a lesbian because she is the only rainbow colored character in the main cast. I think her being gay could equate to all rainbows meaning “gay” in the eyes of young audiences and their parents. I understand why a lot of the LGBTQ+ community is happy with it, since she’s basically the pride flag, but I myself am bisexual and I would really prefer if rainbow was either given a male spouse or none at all. Rainbows are for everyone, not just for the LGBTQ+. Every little girl loves rainbows, and in a kids show (yes I understand many adults watch too, but things like this should be handled carefully for the kids in the audience) a rainbow should never equate to queerness.
Now onto the second part of my controversial opinion: if there is going to be a queer couple in the mane 6 (which I think was always destined to be, lol) how about Applejack and twilight? 👁️👁️that’s my OTP right there. I get that there would be an issue with AJ growing old while twilight just gets taller and her hair gets more flowy, but if I’m remembering correctly a miss Lauren Faust said the mane 6 wasn’t gonna die 😭😭😭
About AppleDash, I'd like to add that the two most masculine girls of the 6 being soft-confirmed lesbians just don't sit right with me. that's uh... very stereotypical.
also, Dash never really seemed to be interested in anyone at all. why not make her asexual/aroace?