4 Reasons AMD is Better than Intel
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2014
- AMD has a ton of perks over Intel, and today I go over four very important ones. Expect a ton more videos and a giveaway coming soon! Which do you prefer? AMD or Intel and why?
Reason 1 0:41
Reason 2 2:24
Reason 3 3:21
Reason 4 5:30
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Did anyone pay attention to when the video was uploaded?
+shadow336k FINALLY! I dug deep looking for this comment.
Visaural Lol
+shadow336k You need a cookie :)
***** You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?
+shadow336k And you aren't?
arghhhh the master race civil war...fanboyism, fanboyism never changes
Ikr, I am sick of this. One side says 'Hyperthreading Bruuuuuuuuu' While the other is like '8 cores and 8.15GHz SUCK IIIIIIIIT'. I honestly prefer AMD but not at fan boy level. Now let the Fanboy wars commence!!
DubstepDRIFTER320 FX 8000 processors are actually quad cores with 8 threads.
Jack McDonagh The FX8 and 9 series cpu's have 8 real cores it's just that every 2 cores share a single resource. The quad core Intels like my i7 have 4 fake cores which are known as threads.
nasha thedog All processor cores share cache: L2 and L3.
Jack McDonagh I don't remember the details I looked it up years ago, I'm sure it's not hard to find though.
Just buy whatever gets you the best performance for your money
deirdre That's the problem.No one saying You shouldn't get an Intel.They are saying you shouldn't get an AMD.That's what the whole problem is.
+deirdre why can't more people think like you.
-T-X-M-
An what gives you that impression?How is an FX 6300 processor equal to the i5 4440 or 4460 in processing?explain please.
-T-X-M- OK two things here.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116942
These are the important things you should be looking for.
Operating Frequency3.1 GHz (3.3 GHz Turbo) L2 Cache4 x 256KB
L3 Cache6MB
Now the FX 6300
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286
Operating Frequency3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) L2 Cache3 x 2MB
L3 Cache8MB
OK.I disagree.But i will show you why i disagree instead of being a dick to people like others do.
You have where the data is stored before it is released.That is the L3.It is sent there then Led out through the pipelines to the L2 before releasing it through the threads of the processor.If you look at the
i5 4440 you have 6MB in at one time an going out at 1MB at a time.This is slow.It is limiting the pipeline.So data gets to your system slower.
Then you have the FX 6300 at 8MB an sends out a pipeline transfer of 6MB at a time.Which is must faster data to your system.This is why i disagree.This is what gives you the determined number of GHz speed.I hope that helps.
+-T-X-M- The FX 6300 is not faster just because it has more cores.
gaming/multitasking/editing = amd
heavy editing/multitasking/gaming = intel
King Firefly i was like that, and then i saw the hype with intel gaming... ok seems it flipped???
King Firefly sorry bro but you are wrong
Trevi680
thought so it was for gaming, and they talk about that intel is for gaming. okay
On a second thought intel is good for gaming too,but i think what realy matters is what do you want to do with your pc.For example if i wanted a pc just for gaming i would probably go with an i5 or an i7 4790k but if i also wanted to live streaming i would go with an amd.Amd has cheaper cpu and these extra they put in some cpus (FX 8350) come realy handy.So i dont realy think there is a winner better the nerver ending war, intel vs amd
King Firefly amd is just a budget option, intel beats amd every time they are pitted against each other, amds answer to the i7, the fx 8350 cant even match the performance of an i5
4 reasons amd is better than intel.
1:Provides extra heating for the house, AMD makes sure your family sleeps well.
2:it uses more power, which is good because it also is what aids in helping you heat your house on those cold nights
3:cores....thats right:) cores.
4:It's cheap, so instead of spening 80$ more. I can take that 80, and order me a pizza. All in all, its a good deal:)
instead of spending $80 more on a more efficient, faster cpu you can spend that money on the ELECTRICITY BILL.
PROUD INFADEL LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Thanku for that, truly I laughed very, VERY hard. hahahahahahah!!!
David Boggs How long does it take you to make that 80 bucks back!
Horrace Foster Prob a half hour.
David Boggs Check out the truth about that you may be shocked at how long that will take and that the difference in actual savings to is about 17 bucks a year at overclocking the amd, so if you listen to the hype well thats marketing and false word of mouth!
I love both AMD and Intel
Intel Pros
-Hyperthreading
-Less Power Consumption
-Fast processing power
-Budget and Fast CPU(Pentium G)
Cons
-Too pricey
-Needs more variety
AMD Pros
-Affordable 6/8 core CPUs
-Great Price:Performance Ratio
-Amazing APUs
-Utilizes all cores
Cons
-Slightly less processing power
-Too much power consumption for FX 8000/9000 series
Bullpucky.I have owned both AMD by no means gives less processor power.intel chips slows down benchmarks so they run longer an give more FPS.So processing power is a joke for Intel chips.An Power consumption is a utter lie.Intel chips blow 8 times more power than AMD chips because from Phenom II to today AMD chips power down to save energy.Intels don't.
WarsunGames So you're either a troll, or just really ignorant.
***** Obviously he's both and an AMD fanboy waiting for the latest milk powder with AMD New formula architecture to cool down his hot fiery butthurt :)
No.He is a Intel user.Plain an simple.I build computers.Any talk of AMD using more power.Bull pucky.Any talk of AMD over heating That is based of a manufacturer of motherboards not processors.Wrong motherboard Overheating problems.Plain an simple.But people who have not know or ignore these fact are people who do not use or build AMD systems.They are Intel users.The only con AMD has is poor advertisement.
That is it.Every accommodation they have made is for the customer.Plain an simple.I am not going to judge Intel. I think they do fine for there products but their business practices are criminal.If their processors generate more heat.Get a water cooler an stop bitching.Systems slow.Buy some faster ram bitch!Drive isnt fast enough for your processor get a SSD an STFU.Seriously.Well that is my opinion of these people.If you like Intel fine.But dont claim stuff that is not true of your competition.I`m just saying.
WarsunGames Hmm...PM me. I like what you said
4,830 intel fanboys disliked this video
An note.This video did not bad mouth Intel or their products.They are haters.Peasant.
People just disliking because they see AMD... smh all those people just straight-up say that one side is better, which never is the case.
4830 coincidences
no i have amd and i disliked this because not everything is true
Because Intel makes a much higher performing product.
Oh man, I should really remove this video haha.
OzTalksHW lol. I saw this now thinking "oh that's how it all started!"
Dude this is the very 1st video i liked on youtube and i liked 2300videos i gone to very bottom and saw this video
Dude are you sure you and oztalkshw aren't the same person?
Don't, the AMD Fans would pe pleased by this vid, haha
@@bogartwilley they are. He stop uploading on this channel because he had 2 copyright strikes.
I mean it's not really even fanboy thing, AMD is way behind on a technical standpoint to the point that it's not even an opinion based question... it's pretty much a fact.
***** Yes, intel chips from 3 generations ago are faster than he current fx offerings.
***** AMD doesn't make a single state of the art thing in any market, and intel has a much larger market share, stop lying. Also Intel cpus cost less to make because their engineers are competent enough to make 14 nm chips. and their cpus are efficient enough to not need a bunch of extra cores therefore intel makes alot more money per chip than amd does. like i said 3 year intel chips are faster than amds current offerings, all of them that's a fact.
***** The 48 "THREAD" cpu wasn't something intel made because they felt threatened by amds lackluster 8 core cpus. also you are misinformed, there is no 48 core cpu The 48 "Thread" cpu, is actually two seperate 12 core intel xeons that have two seperate slots on a motherboard if you get a dual cpu motherboard making both cpus combined a 48 "thread" system. it's a work station part, so no shit not everyone is going to use it, it's not a consumer grade product. which is a completely different market that AMD doesn't even have involvement in. and like i said "intel cpu's cost less to make" the keyword is make, intel cpus cost significantly less money to manufactur because the chips are on a smaller Die, smaller die means smaller transistors which = smaller manufacturing cost. amd chips cost almost twice as much to manufacture and they sell for less than intel chips, so not only does intel sell more volume but they also make significantly more money per chip. You are really misinformed and it's obvious you are biased. I'm sorry, but amd doesn't make any enthusiast cpu's.
***** your amd cpu not lagging doesn't mean intel isn't leagues above amd on a technological stand point. It's irrelevant, if you like your amd cpu then that's good. But that has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
***** Jerks? These companies don't owe you anything, they are running a business not trying to worry about your well being. If you don't think the price is worthwhile then just stick to amd, it's the only reason people buy amd anyway. Because it's more affordable, other than that there's no reason to buy amd.
the 8.5 Ghz is Liquid nitrogen cooled, not water.
+Sean Payton Liquid penis cooled, not helium
Hardened cum cooled, not shit.
no liquid fluid cooled
Aaron Harris australia cooled
Andy Yu Middle East cooled
"That answer isn't black and white" Why's it always gotta be about race with you people?
YOU people?
;)
Awesome...
YOU just made it about race
X No shit Sherlock. It was a joke. Some people have no sense of humor.
I started with AMD for budget, then gradually saved money and got an i7.
Dude lmao same. I went from 6300fx to I7 6700k
didnt you need to change motherboards?
***** Lol damn, the man was just asking a question bro lmao xD
Yayo Uchiha Nice I started with the 6350 to 4790.
+TheBenchmarkBrothers would you say the almost 500 dollar upgrade was well worth it at the time?
You can't say AMD is better than Intel or Intel better than AMD because both companies have great CPU's and they're both making new CPU's better than the others.
Exactly! Thank you!They are both learning new things an are developing new hardware.That is based on company.Selling prices are not based on company creations rather than random prices.Anyone can name their price for their creation.
wow fanboy much, an intel processor for the same price as an amd processor would get outperformed there is no other way to say it and that is the most important thing from a consumer point of view
FunGUI Fanboy much ?
FunGUI State the facts but this is a stupid argument i'm on a tight budget and i got an AMD it doesn't affect you so get over it. Please just stop, and don't call me poor or I willll send this to the kids in Africa, that are starving. You guys need to stop being so butthurt and im not only talking to you.
haha i like your sense of humor Tryte, do you have Battlfefield 4? maybe when i get my new rig in a week we can play. (I need someone to tell me the basics of online play and how not to be a scrub)
Can someone give me a AMD processor that's similar or better than the intel i7 4770k or intel i5 4670k please !!!!
You need to wait 10 years for that
Updated 27 Feb 15'
FX 8350..
Or the FX 9000 series unless you want to pay more electricty bills as well as getting a new oven on your new mobo
Nothing, but the fx 9000 series is really close
WarsunGames Wow thanks man u know a lot. I'm looking to game and video edit. The FX 8350 looks the best for what i need to do. Also i'm sure you can get the fx 8350 that goes up to 4ghz which is also 8 threads.
I've decided to go for the fx 8350
msi z87-g45 gaming
16gb
1tb
r9 290x
512gb ssd
a good cooling fan (properly the one you just recommended)
I think thats all the main info lol
M Gooner
For video editing don't get the 512 gb ssd, you need a large hdd unless you plan to kill it within a year. Just get a WD black edition for video editing purposes and storage. Get a smaller SSD for all your temp files, OS, and other programs that get updated every so often.
plus you'll save a ton of money.
i would also get a fx8320 if you're ona really tight budget, but i doubt you are if you were gonna get that 512gig.
You Intel fan boys don't even realize that you lost. All of the current consoles are running on AMD chips, there are millions of them and all the developers will learn to code for AMD chipsets.
That's right.
what you mean like the underpowered xbox one
Insert Username Here You realize he has a point though, consoles are getting better support and run amd... so maybe amd will gain the boost through support I guess.
I don't think they will console players are starting to realize how bad they really are because think you pay $300 for underpowered hardware that has practically no exclusives because most are now on windows 10 on top of that you have to pay $60 a year to actually play online along with your internet bill and if you need to change your name that's another $10,the only way to get a refunds if you don't enjoy a game over Xbox is to get on internet browser and contact Xbox support (which has the worst customer support I have ever seen) and pray they give you a refund
*****
Um.No.Which is why they went with AMD.Which explains how great Console games came out.The problem is.Companies are lowering performance for PCs to that same performance speed.
WHY THE FUCK should i pay much more to buy an intel processor when AMD can run Every game at any setting i want, and is cheaper -__-
Sony Trinitron ^^^^^
Sony Trinitron
- i5 and i7 processors give more FPS in games compared to AMD CPU's.
- Intel CPU's run a LOT cooler and consume much less power.
HA^
1. You pay like 200$ for like 2 more fps (If both are optimized right, but would get more on games developed for Intel CPUs and same the other way)
2. My AMD FX 6300 runs very cool in idle and under load with fan cooling
3. It's takes more power since it has more cores and raw performance compared to a Intel cpu with lower clock speeds and less cores.
XxJaffaCakeBoysxX 1. You only pay 50-100$ more for a much better performing Intel CPU.
2. A similar performing Intel CPU would use like 50% of the power of the FX-6300.
3. An Intel cpu with 6 cores performs WAY better than the 6300 and even the 9560. Even a good quad-core intel performs better than a 9590 octa-core.
Floris Rossel Intel does consume less than AMD, but they overheat extremely quick (especially i5 and i7). But many tests result in AMD having a higher FPS than Intel.
I like them both, but Im not spending more then $200 on a CPU. I have a FX8320 and Im happy with it, got it to 5ghz on the H100 and evey game I play it does just fine. Intel may be faster, but I'll take AMD's price over most Intel CPU's.
Intel doesn't seem to have a good middle ground, All of their i5's are way to much, I mean yeah the 3570k is a good CPU, but even today being at $300 USD is to much when I can get a the 8320 that vary close to its performance for $149.
Not saying i wouldn't ever own an Intel, I own a i5 2500k in another system and it does well at 4.2ghz, but I would rather spend the extra cash I saved from not spending $400 for a good Intel CPU and use it towards a beastly Graphic card(s). though AMD did over price the FX9xxx series, simply get an 8320 or 8350 and oc it with ease.
Bro Intel fangirls be like I spent $300 for 5 FPS.
1.45v jumpt to 1.47 at times underload.
Viking Dudee Well, it gets warm, thats for sure, Im on the h100, and the cores will get to around 58C lol.
Benjamin Wiseman yeah, mine will do 4.5ghz at stock voltage on prime all night long, 6 - 7 hours till I stopped it int he morning. Max recorded voltage was 1.38v, thats was where I was gonna stop because I was already happy with it. But the itch for more you know lol. my buddies 8350 was kinda bad on my system, it was only able to get to 4.8ghz where it needed 1.52v to pass even an hour of prime, and it was cooking at 64c. I'd like to go for a real water cooling setup, but im focusing on a 2nd GPU right now.
their i3-s are great for everyday useage and budget gaming, also very little power consumption and heat
1:26 "Of course it has to be extremely water cooled" You lost me right there.
Rusty Shackleford Yeah. are we still living in year 2008?
Rusty Shackleford Yeah that line kind of made this whole video lose its credibility. While AMD CPUs might clock higher with LN2, the fact is that you can't run an everyday use computer with 24/7 LN2 cooling. Also, AMD's high-end CPUs have a 220W TDP. That's almost 2.5 times the power consumption and heat compared to Intel, and it still doesn't match the actual performance Intel has. You need a huge watercooling setup to do any kind of overclocking with such high power consumption.
I have an analogy for Intel and AMD CPUs:
A 4-core Intel CPU is like having four big garden hoses. You can always run a lot of water through them without having to use a pump with a kot of pressure (a lot of water = a lot of performance, more pressure = more power consumption)
An "8-core" AMD CPU is like having four smaller garden hoses which each split into two along the way. So you have 8 ends but only 4 beginnings. You need a high pressure water pump to run water through them.
If an application is optimized to run on the AMD style of hose, it can pump water through the AMD hoses at the higher pressure, almost as fast as it can through the larger Intel hoses with less pressure. But if the application is just coded normally without optimizing it for anything specific, it can't pump anywhere near as much water through the AMD style hoses, but it still can pump tons of water through Intel's hoses.
Intel's CPU cores are each individual, separate cores that work by themselves. AMD's current CPU cores in their FX CPUs come in pairs that share the beginning of the pipeline. This causes a bottleneck in many situations, which is why it doesn't work as well compared to Intel's individual cores.
I'm not some Intel fanboy either, I've had AMD processors when they were still competitive against (and even better than) Intel. I really hope AMD's Zen architecture is truly competitive against what Intel will have in 2016. It's good to have competition in the CPU (and GPU) space. Enthusiast level CPU prices are so high because Intel has been so dominant on the CPU market for many years now.
The saddest thing is that even AMD's own Project Quantum, the fancy futuristic looking small computer with two R9 Fury X's inside, has an Intel CPU inside it... AMD simply doesn't have anything to offer right now if you want high performance at a reasonable power/heat level. I wish they did.
Rusty Shackleford yeah me too all the guys at the world championship use liquid nitrogen XD
Kepe tldr
Hamster1022 tldr; Current AMD CPUs suck (bad performance and huge power consumption compared to Intel).
I wish they didn't suck because currently Intel is left untouched at the high-end market and can price their stuff however they like. Let's just wish AMD's Zen architecture is competitive against what Intel has in 2016 (Kaby Lake?) so that we can have some competition at the higher end again.
Only thing AMD is better is the CHEAP price, Intel has more power
If you can show us that.That would be great.However that would require you to not show us that from Any program that is not payed for by Intel or Nvidia an does not use Nvidia Gameworks.An finally is optimized or caries codes that are compatible with current AMD hardware.if not.Cant believe it.Good luck.
+WarsunGames amd has weaker coresj
WarsunGames Well i tested with an low end i5 quad core VS an FX-9690 8 core both with a GTX 960 from MSI 4 GB and 16 GB HyperX DDR3 ram,the i5 was better in everyday AND gaming performance
Agreeing with that.^^ You may never reach a processors full potential.Unless you overclock.An by then you just say " hey a new processor came out with the same speed as my OC." Toss your old one an get the new one.
+cody kamminga That's anecdotal evidence. Care to share any proof?
Intel sucks... *grabs a full bowl of popcorn*
I have a potato chip as a cpu :D
+The Reptilian Smash are you stupid? do more research about computers instead of getting Info on RUclips.
Intel is way more stronger than AMD
A fucking 10 core AMD processor can't beat a 6 core i7 Intel
AMD is a shit budget for broke niggas brand
*grabs another bowl*
+The Reptilian Smash hahahah this reaction made my day btw the other guy has to get more information XD
flauwgamen He's actually telling the truth tho. *No popcorn left.. grabs soda*
Do you know that Intel Pentium G3258 can be OC to 4.9ghz? I can only agree with Reason 4, because AMD are way more cheaper than Intel, but look at G3258 price/performance and compare it...
Yep, this was uploaded before the G3258 was even announced.
ok, you can take G3258 and try to play in some last games ;)
I definitely will. Combined with HD7950, I will play everything on High-Ultra. But that isn't the point. I meant AMD are cheaper alternative of Intel. But if the price is not a factor, how can you compare them. Intel's equivalents are better. Intel's stronger single core performance will make a large difference than AMD's extra cores. And it needs to overclock to match Intel's stock speeds. Not to mention the higher power consumption and heat. So that means AMD is more expensive than Intel in longer time.
p.s. There are some examples when Intel equivalents are cheaper. Around i3 and fx8xxx series.
ryderbg how would it be more expensive if u think a dollar or 2 more a month on electric bill is a lot then thats sad. I believe that if u are using INTEL stick to a non AMD GPU go with ur expensive ass nvidia just like the intel EXPENSIVE. AMD has all good prices and its performance does say a lot from the price because its like getting a discounted version of the latest i7 for half price.
Ken Lu I just made a new PC - Intel Pentium g3258, R9 280, Kingston HyperX 8gb and 120gb Samsung 840evo SSD on Gigabyte Z97P for around $500 and run everything on High-Ultra. At the moment it works very well on 4.0+ ghz for around 60w and compared to FX-8350 (125W) works better in most of the games because AMD's cores are small, 32nm.... But in multi-threading AMD would work better than g3258.
AMD thinks more is better:
-More cores is better
-More Ghz is better
When what really matter is the power, and Intel has it.
What's better: 4 smart people or 8 stronger people doing some job which need much thinking?
That is correct
Show me a benchmark which FX-8350 (real 8-core) 4.0Ghz beat Core i7 4790 (virtual 8-core) 3.6Ghz.
GGB_Gameplays
as a big amd fanboy speaking that is true
This may chance with the arrive of Zen processors, at least until Intel release a new 6 or 8 cores processor.
GGB_Gameplays The FX line has not had a major update in almost 4 years. The new Zen cpus will most likely be competing with the latest intel.
If you wanna play Games like ArmA 3 or DayZ..
Go for an Intel and forgett AMD
This Website will help you alot :)
www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4690K+%40+3.50GHz&id=2284
The best one actually for your money is the i7 4790k. The Worlds Number One for Gaming. cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4790K+%40+4.00GHz&id=2275
+BigMongostyler Completely agree. ARMA's engine just doesn't perform well with AMD and people need to look into things like this. The engine that both of those games use rely on CPU more than anything and what usually ends up happening is on AMD processors, framerate will be limited by the CPU as only 2 cores are used. A very much overlooked issue.
+spir1t7 Some games push the GPU and don't give a rat's ass what CPU you have. Also a HIGHER CLOCKED RAM on your motherboard for some games will give you up to 5 frames per second more, whereas on lower clocked RAM it doesn't make much of a difference. Testing shows this shit to be true, not made up shit from your head.
Andi Rain Cool but for BI games Intel trumps and that's what people don't understand. I know AMD has it's pros but this is purely on the topic of gaming and more aimed towards popular BI engines, the ARMA 3 and Real Virtuality engines
Reason Number 5: when the sun goes out we can use an amd chip to warm us
Show us proof AMD processors from the last 5 years running hotter than any Intel chip from that time.You cant.There is no such thing as a AMD processor that runs as hot as an Intel.Intel chips all Run hotter.
whats the most powerfull AMD architecture for gaming? dont they have all 125W tdp and 95W tdp there. And Skylake has just 65 mostly and latest are 95. so intel are objectively cooler, but ALSO very importantly AMD mobo chipsets are hot, which is even more of an inconvenience because you have to somehow directly cool the NB if you want it to function.
Vladislav Kostin But AMD CPUs throttle at 71.1°C, and burn at 80+°C, they run cooler because they need to. And I run them with dual stacked dual 140mm on a dual slot 280mm water radiator for 300W.
KGT UserCast I see, so if that accounts for all the TDP difference (which I doubt, maybe), then the joke maybe does not work, but still chipsets are much hotter. But the main point is that it takes much more to cool an AMD then Intel.
This will change when Zen comes out though.
Another sign that AMD CPU produces more heat would be if it consumes more power, which it does?
KGT UserCast
Most. burn out. at 80+ lets not forget the others that go up to 90c.
This vid looks great! You hit all the big points, and explained them well. Nice man :)
Thanks man!
Hoi I'm subbed to you
You can change your name back to MS tech now. Google allows it now.
***** I prefer Matt Schaefer :P
Matt Schaefer Oh ok.
And then Intel Pentium G3258 came and kicked AMD's ass ;)
I was about to say, If they come out with a quad core version{if thats possible lol} There fucking done. This core has nearly the same benchmarks as the i7 4790k
If they would come out with a quad core version the market would be ruined for them and AMD ;)
Its not that good.... Its good but not world endingly good.
For that price it's quite sick.
If overclocked it can be as good as an i7 in games that only use 1-2 cores.
Its good for games but amd's quad cores are better in almost every way and there around the same price.
Just buy an Intel in the first place, and then you don't need to OC
lol XD
I got an amd and I don't need to oc. lol
Is it the 9590?
+Ian B 8350. But I only got this as a temp cpu cus I couldn't afford anything else really till I finish school
Yeah, I don't have much money either, but I'll probably get an i3 6100
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+AlphaLineGaming intel more reliable ?!!! but how ??!!!!
That may be my personal opinion. I just think Intel is a more reliable company.
AlphaLineGaming nah ! both are reliable .. have used both intel and amd pcs..
There are LGA 1150's of each chip I listed. Lower end Xeons, and higher end Celerons.
I hate you Minecraft fanboys.
Long time no see. New video on the horizon.
i thought you had kinda of trouble somewhat, what happened for about a year
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+v DDRist - This video, it takes about a year to recover after stating AMD is better using the excuses he used.
+Dan WolfSkyWay calm down ...also I actually agree with you
+ONOTech OK i love intel more than amd its my opinion love the VIDEO
AMD - "We need more cores! MORE CORES!"
Intel - "We need to make our per-core performance more efficient."
That is correct.
wow its the exact opposite right now
the overdrive software says cpu not detected in my laptop.......i m currently using dell 5555 with a10 apu n r6 gpu.......can you tell me how to over clock without using overdrive software......thanx for d video though
Any idea which of the two is better for 3D work in autodesk 3ds Max 2015? I'm trying to figure out if 3ds Max is optimised to make use of the additional cores in the AMD Ryzen. Thanks
Was this an april fools prank?
I hope that.
AMD doesn't charge extra for the "privilege" of overclocking your processor. AMD doesn't gimp their processors by locking multipliers, or disabling multithreading or disabling virtualization. Plus you get the luxery of paying double for an i7 than a 8350. I hav rigs built upon a 8320, 6300 and an A10-5800. They do what I need and I don't feel like I got ripped off. $100 more for an unlocked i5 than an 8320? Sheeesh! Thanks for the great video.
Thank you.I didn't want to say that.Because it is obvious.
hay can someone help me. i have a hp255g4 laptop and i want to change my
processor. what should i upgrade it to?..............the processor in
my laptop now is a AMD E1 6015 APU. I want to change it but i dont know
to what help me...............
excuse me if you dont mind. which music is this which starts at first.
I can't believe how long I've gone thinking this was legit.
Wake up people, realize this is an april fools joke.
+Fluoride is bad for your teeth LoL I just realized it was uploaded on April first haha
I upgraded my cpu last year from a AMDS fx6300 to a core i7 4790k, the i7 crushes it by miles on gaming, rendering, multitasking, I will never go back to AMD, unless I'm super broke and computerless.
Nin Tendo the cost of a 6300 to i7 is pretty high
***** because its better and lasts years longer
Noah S.
There will always be a fanboywar. The Intel fanboys don't realize that if AMD wasn't there, how expensive their CPUs would be. Thanks to competition the prices are lower. If Intel was the only company making CPU's they'd have the monopoly and they could set their own prices.
Nin Tendo Did you really just say you will never go AMD again because a $100 cpu was crushed by a $350 cpu. You must be trolling or stupid.
Conor Glavin lol, those prices are wrong and Intel has higher performance and less power usage than AMD
would you recommend the AMD FX6300 or the AMD A8 7600 for 4K editing? they are priced within my budget.
does a cpu comme whit a fan when you buy one ?? or you afto to get a cpu cooler
intel fangirls triggered lol
im using the older fx 4350. its a quad core 4.2 ghz. its a decent cpu u can get for like 89 dollars. it ran at top 41 degrees Celsius when running world of tanks on high with a 750 ti. not a bad CPU for budget/medium gaming abilitys. the frames ranged from 90 to 120 fps
Here are my thoughts on your video:
First reason:
Intel Processors can overclock just fine. I got an i7 2700k @ 4.9ghz. Also clock speed doesn't mean everything. Also not all non "k" variations on Intel processors can't be overclocked. An i7 3820 can be overclocked just fine. My friend has a rig with an i7 3820 with water cooling @ 4.7ghz.
Second Reason:
First of all AMD 8 core processors ONLY HAVE 4 PHYSICAL CORES! Intel multicore performance is just as good as AMD multicore performance believe it or not. An i5 4690k overclocked will beat the AMD 9590 in basically anything, even multicore performance (however not every multicore application). The i7 4790k will beat any AMD processor on the market right now at anything, and yes believe it or not hyper threading actually does make a difference.
Third Reason:
Who the hell cares about iGPUs? Any gamer or professional will NOT use an iGPU. They will either use consumer or professional grade graphics cards. iGPU's are basically in this day and age a non-factor. Also Skylake has worked very hard on improving iGPU's and while I have not seen a direct benchmark comparison between AMD and Intel Skylake iGPU's, I would not be surprised if Intel has closed this "gap" you speak of. Also Intel processors bottleneck GPU's less, meaning in all reality, Intel processors will allow you to have better graphics performance if your using high end graphics cards or sli/crossfire.
Fourth reason:
I will agree with you on this. AMD is cheaper. However here's something for you AMD fanboys out there to think about, it quality. Believe it or not but you do get what you pay for. This means in term of future proofing and longevity of the processor, Intel will win. The i5 2500k Overclocked is still an amazing CPU and a very viable option in the world of gaming. Despite this being 3 or 4 years old (I forget the exact release date at the top of my head) it still games well! So in all reality with that said the fact that your processor will actually last you longer, really does narrow that price gap quite a bit in my opinion. I'd also like to say that AMD pricing doesn't mean better performance, it just means better performance per dollar. However the Pentium G3259 can OC to like freaking 4.4ghz on the stock cooler and 4.9ghz max (maybe 5ghz???). however the G3258 Price Performance beats that of every AMD processor on the market, and in single or dual threaded games it still kicks AMD's ass.
I do miss the days of the CPU war, as it was a time when performance gaps were needed for each company to actually survive. But unfortunately for people both on Team Red and Team Blue AMD has been killing itself. This means Intel can get away with release new processor generations with only 15-20% performance because they have no competition. And I bet it's gotten to the point that if AMD actually did release a good processor that Intel could just pull a new CPU out to beat that one (I'm guessing on this point, but it wouldn't surprise me).
Also another reason why Intel is better is less wattage usage. The FX 9590 uses 240 Watts non oc. You say that AMD Processors OC better, well you better get a tough ass power supply to overclock that thing.... Heck I bet I could run GTX 980 OC for less power.
What I'm trying to say that AMD is even starting to lose out on Budget builds with the G3258 and there is NO high end competition from AMD anymore. Not to mention NVIDIA is just destroying AMD to... I really do feel bad for AMD these days...
The Derp DERPYDERP You have a point. Intel really is far ahead of AMD.
A laptop I want to buy has a AMD A10-7300 processor. Can anyone suggest if it is good or bad? what kind of performance I should expect. I have had intel in the past. I am not a tech savvy so any helpful comments would be brilliant. thanks, Bruno
hey I got a question. what is missing in amd cpus for them to be as fast as intel cpus?
Now let's make a video of 100 reasons why INTEL is better than amd.
Stfu k thx
As a Former Intel user.I cant think of any reason to buy an Intel.If you like Intel That's fine.But as long as you have the douches going to AMD pages to criticize mock an try their best to humiliate AMD who has done nothing to anyone.They will only have our hate for Intel fans an Intel users.AMD fans an users don't go to Intel pages an thumbs down their videos.AMD fans don't go to Store pages an give false review an give 1 star to Intel products.An just lie an lie an lie.So no.No no support.Go to all the fake web pages like CPUBoss.They're pretty popular Intel fan based webpage.
Or If you are into fake scores try Cinebench or even 3DMark.They always fake benchmarks.
+WarsunGames if you want to to rendering, you can't compare the Intel cpus, you compare then to the xeons.
+WarsunGames I never saw a fake review ir something like that.
Agreed, Intel shits on AMD in every category except price.
AMD is for the poor Intel is for the rich, and im in a Intel guy lol
You're in an Intel guy? Wtf are the two of you doing?
Well, I'm living proof that you are wrong. Not poor, but I still buy AMD.
Why?
Pro tip: We get rich by not overpaying or wasting money.
***** if you really believe intel sucks then that sucks for you, do some research and reading up how AMD is trying to play catch up to intel these are facts
jason born Doesn't matter who's better, what matters is the competition, they leap frog each other. Without both companies competing that means bad news for the consumer.
***** Intel rocks man, you're just a fanboy of AMD, they're both very good companies but they differ from CPUs to CPUs
I got a AMD A10-8700P APU with RadeonTM R6 Graphics featuring 10 Compute Cores (4 CPU + 8 GPU) but was intel i7 even out when this was uploaded?
hey it about this motherboard MSI ATX DDR3 2133 MOTHERBOARD 970 GAMING i whant to know if the board can run windows 7 if some one know about it let me know ??
No, that 8.5 ghz processor was LIQUID HELIUM cooled
*liquid nitrogen*
*liquid steel*
+The Happy Hatter no it's not facepalm
Too many Amd owners with inferiority complexes and too many Intel owners with egos based on the size of their wallets. Firstly know what you want a system for, research benchmarks, read comparison reviews, avoid fan boys and make an informed purchase. Then enjoy your hardware and don't worry about feeling inferior or superior to others, ignore all that BS and enjoy your tech!
No we just want to be proven wrong without any cheap tricks.Which every single time we see cheap tricks from Intel.We would gladly move over to Intel if we saw legit proof they had superior anything.We don't see it.An so many others are tricked by fake benchmarks slowing down transfer rates on the processor to make it look like it blows away in FPS from just a processor.Which is a lie.There are just too many thing we say no to.
Well regardless of your biased opinion, it is a fact that Intel do own AMD when it comes to single core performance, so much so that they have happily kept their cores lower than AMD's. Reason? Well because each single core they deliver at stock out performs multiple AMD cores running at higher clock speeds, why? Better architecture, simple. Intel's architecture has been so good since the first Core series that now they rest on their laurels and incrementally increase frequencies and cores whilst focusing on efficiency, why? Because there is no competition from AMD, instead they focus on pumping out sub standard apu's to stay a float. I don't knock them for this business practice as most people want to save as much money as possible but to try and think you are correct is laughable, both companies have a history of not being quite so honest with their figures, if you had been building PC's for 20+ years like I have you would know this. There is no debate I'm afraid ... so NO to you. In life when there are 2 competitors 1 is always going to be better, face facts ... Intel are better nowadays, not 10 years ago, AMD ruled, but now Intel is better. You seem like a butthurt AMD fanboi, like I said in my original post, if you make informed purchases then you will never be butt hurt enough to make the comment you did.
I will make this clear.That argument.That has been said over an over again.That in single core performance was 2 Years ago.BEFORE AMD had a refresh.All the new FX and APU out perform Intel`s new processors.There aren't any that out perform the AMD new series.In any general Single performance test.An you misunderstand what Intel did.
Intel data blocked their processors an slowed down the timing.Which is why in programs there are issues.The processors are designed to limit how much data comes through them.With the limit of data it seems like you get more FPS but instead your graphics card has less work to do.You are not getting better performance.You can state the argument that this is why you need less GHz.The truth is.this method of delayed data prevent data from getting through fast enough.That's why your GHz are so low now.Not only that.But this is also a major issue when in games or other programs.You will think your getting faster compression.Just to see that compression causes errors in data transfers.(Mind you this does not mean it do it quickly depending on what language the file is being converted.)But that data comes out corrupted almost every time you have large files an they need to refresh.
Intel`s Architecture?I just explained it.It is so poorly designed it causes problems.Intel has not learned a thing.They just used the same cores an just made them function to a higher degree which still presents programs.Nothings changed.There architecture is garbage.Running temperatures of 70c to 100c sending off alarms an shortening the life span of the latest processors to only a year or maybe a year and a half.Even Hardware salesmen fear selling these desktop ovens!An are fearful of building these Desktops for people in general.
Who told you that lie about efficiency?None of the processors run at that level of voltage.They run hot at 70c anyone testing this has found the voltage to go over 461 watts.So your 85watt processors in fact run around 400watts. BRB again.
Alkanphel Another one with common sense thank you!
Alkanphel on the same price the intel will perform exactly the same as an amd one, i3 performs as good or better in most games than a fx 6300 and cpu is only half the story, a cheapo 50€ H81 mobo is gonna run any Intel 1150 cpu where as you have to get a 990fx for amd for worry free overclocking which costs 150€ (cheapest, well at least on amazon.de) and a chipset 970 mobo for an fx 8xxx cpu which costs at least 80€....so pls stfu
can i overclock 2.2ghz to 2.9 ghz with stock cooler?
Hey man, good video. You don't even use notes. Awesome. I have to wonder if you also edit video and if it is in Hi Def. Would really like to know the specs on YOUR computer (I'm considering building an editing computer) and if you just use just an APU or do you also use a graphics card. Thanks for any answers to my questions, in advance!
Have a great day!
p.s. I just noticed the date that you recorded this. Is there a link to a more recent video that also might answer some of my questions? Thanks alot. :-)
soon as i clicked on this video i knew it was gunner be half "likes & dislikes" amd and intel fan boys ahha
I'm quite neutral between them both but I tend to go with amd because I don't have The money for Intel
The power consumption of the AMD CPUs are very high. Intel does a better job.
But Intel can´t beat AMD with the APUs.
Bull crap.AMD processors have power modulation.An Every Processor company can beat Intel.They have barely changed their formula in 20 years.Barely.
WarsunGames
Why do the top AMD CPUs have a TDP of 220 W and the best i7s has 88 W?
The i7 4790k is better than the FX-9590 with almost 1/3 oj the power consumption.
Dennis3Run True lol Warsun = typical fanboy
RotarGaming Ad Hominem.
? I do not understand that question but awell
Good job man, 300 subs in this video? Damm you've come a lot further and it's well deserved.
hye bro i am using 2.3 GHz AMD Quad-Core A10-4600M APU , and my laptop HP Pavilion 15 Notebook PC gets damn slow while using the softwares like corel draw ,autocad please help me out !
I know it's one year later, but a lot of this was simply never true and until AMD updates there CPU, the only thing I'd recommend are budget APUs for mini ITX and HTPC builds. Clock for Clock Intel's builds have faster single-threaded performance. With Skylake the distance is even farther than it was before. Take a look at even the FX 8320 vs an i3 Skylake. It gets beat across the board and even mostly on encoding. I wish I could recommend AMD's CPUs, but I just can't at this point in time.
+TopTenGamer First off No Intels faster single cores are compared to older processors.Or had you not noticed that?Second How many programs do you know run off a single thread?Exactly.If you want to do low end stuff.Sure go Intel.All the power to you.But if you want to do intense processing.Stop buy an pick up an AMD Processor.
Intense processing? Look I don't drink the blue cool-aid... in Fact, I want AMD to succeed - But, Have you seen any benchmarking results as of late? Take a look at how the i3-6100 does against the FX 8320e's EVERY benchmark www.techspot.com/review/1087-best-value-desktop-cpu/ so yes, the hyperthreading of the Skylake i3 is more "intense" than AMD's "8-core (arguably 4-core) processor
+Infostack tells us that amd is about to have by far the cheapest chip with hyperthreading. even better if they put it across the entire fx line. the technology is cheaper. however i love both but amd hooked me harder sorry. still both companies are more worried about squeezing as much out of these chips as possible. howeverlike i said. amd hooked me. the apu is one of the biggest advancements in cpus in a while. and on the graphics side tresfx and hbm. they may not be the best of the best however they do make some of the most substantial advancements. dont forget x86=amd
***** I honestly have no idea what your talking about.From the beginning.When it comes to price.Intel does not know what the word competitive prices means.So anything based on wallet combined with the word Intel makes no sense.Whoever prices Intel products is a money is clearly a madman.
How much is an Intel Xeon E5-2687W V2 at 3.4 GHz?An how much is an AMD FX 9590 at 5.1 GHz?The Zen design an Hyperthreading were BOTH created by AMD.AMD threw the design away because it did not increase performance.Intel picked it up an went with it with AMD's signed licensing.The design is an AMD Original design.Not Intel.So i don't know where you got that info from.
*****
Wow.OK First off.I say what i want to say.You don't have to be a little crybaby about what information helps you understand something.If you don't want me to correct what you say.Stop mispronouncing or giving vague descriptions of thing.
Because you are comparing low end to high end or 3 years ago.So i had to correct your mistakes.
Also I used the Xeon to play games.I had been for 4 years back when i had my old one.An yeah the Cool the fuck off tells me you are the one getting angry.Not me.I am here to edjucate.
Dual cores are obsolete an have been for years.Since the first AMD Quad core back in 2001.The industry should have started focusing more on 4 cores back then.Intel failed to do this.Support of 2core computing or gaming is done by the least acknowledged people.This whole a single core our performs bla bla bla.Look.If that is the cause then get a Celeron processor.An talk about how great that is.Other than that.
People want quality an performance.You cannot by any means get that from a dual core.You need at least a quad core.An after that.You will see the need for a 6 core.Then see the need for a 8 core.An then you will be settled.Because the Industry has not produced hardware that uses all 8 cores.Just 6 an you have space to breath.So i am gonna just crap all over that comment of yours.
Prices.OK.Clearly you don't know.Spending more money on something you do not understand is a bad idea.Just because someone prices something higher does not make it better.This is why people use computers to do RESEARCH.I have to put that in bold.RESEARCH on products before purchase.Its simple.When a person comes up with a version of Fallout 4 does not mean someone who sells you an different one for 100 bucks more is better.They are the same product.You know what.Ask your grand parents.Not the internet on the value of a dollar.They may be able to help better.
OK if you think that about AMD.You are sadly mistaken.Instead of listening to other people an being their bitch.Why don't you try it yourself an try not to shit all over it while doing so.I know it will be hard for you.You being a fan of a company and all.But people like me.Who only care about truth an facts.Honestly can give enough of a shit about other peoples feelings.You lie an spread lies? We hate you.You tell the truth? We like you.That simple.
Actually AMD is cheaper because AMD's processor are only ment for gaming, just focusing on gaming, well ik that amd processors can handle rendering and more..
And Intel are ment to handle general pc usage, not only for gaming,like its waaayy more expensive bcz u would buy intel processors for heavy rendering and editing (And for a High End CPU)
***** true, i personally prefer intel, but because i have to keep the money on the cpu and spend more on the graphics card, and because alot of hame nowadays are taking advantage of more than 4 cores, i chose FX 6300 not an i3 4150
Nope.. AMD WANTED to create gaming cpu's but they failed.. Intel is much better in gaming performance and AMD is better in Multitasking and Video editing
***** and Intel has a much lower lemon off the shelf rate and lasts years longer.
S-Craft gƒx amd is way worse for gaming, they have worse single core preformance
Way to not understand amd. Amd is horrible for gaming compared to Intel processors from 2001
what good is the overclocking if its still slower than stock intel...
what is the background music???
I hope this was an April Fool's joke.
+Darwin & Ian it was
A dual core pentium g3258 outperforms an fx 6300 6 core and you can OC the pentium g3258 to 4.6ghz on stock. Has better price performance and it only costs 60 bucks.
In single threaded apps ONLY! Don't kid yourself otherwise, the 6300 is superior in every other way. PERIOD!!!!
ThePookalocka most of everyday apps are single\dual threaded... and that boost up to 4.6 Ghz makes is a decent processor for gaming
TabalugaDragon
No, it really doesn't
ThePookalocka Incorrect, it outperforms 6300 on Crysis 3 by 5% and Crysis 3 can use 8 threads.
ThePookalocka Most games use 2 cores to the fullest and offload small processing to 2 more cores.
i want to know what processor is best for computer programming for engineers . I use xbox 360 to play game. so need pc that can work only 4 complex codding as much fast as can. (I am not good in english grammatical mistake may occur )...
Intel is for work
I just want a new computer and I have no clue what specs to get. So these sites gave me two options. AMD and Intel. So since I'm shit at hardware I'm just a programmer I decided to look for a simple answer on wich is better on youtube. So I look through 5 videos and I understood "Hello" and "Guys" on most of them. I didnt get anything out of them and im still super confused. Help.
For me, best bang for my buck is always with AMD. Cpu's and motherboards cost much less. Yeah, Intel will win in benchmarks but in my world (video editing) AMD never lets me down. The way I see it is like this: If I render a 5 minute HD video and Intel beats the AMD by say.... 20 seconds, Yeah, it beat my AMD but shit, I also paid $100 less, that 20 seconds doesn't justify the higher price tag to me.
You have no clue what you're talking about. Firstly, doesn't matter if your cpu hits 10GHZ, if a 3GHZ intel cpu is faster than your 5ghz amd cpu....what's the point? A high frequency does not mean better performance. Secondly, K processors from intel are not the only ones that are overclockable...all processors are overclockable, the difference is that K processors have the Multiplier unlocked in the bios which allows for easier overclocking. iGPU?.....Intel HD graphics....Fact is the "apu" market is obsolete....the concept is ignorant because if you truthfully need that graphical processing power, I can guarantee it'll be more effective to split the budget between a CPU and a DEDICATED card. AMD died soon as Hypertheading got implemented.....Even back in the LGA775 days they were getting stomped by the Q6600's....heck I grabbed my E6750 over the bullshit 3.2ghz black edition because I already knew that clock for clock it couldn't hold up......Your video is filled with misinformation.
lol intel have a 8 core atom c2750 at 2.4GHz,but yet it performs as badly as a 1+GHz mobile haswell i3.
it shows how ipc affects the ghz thing
Devitalizer
dedicated gpu market dying?...are you insane?..... the whole point is that the market is directed at Media systems, Workstations and mostly Gamers. For the same reason because that market is directed towards people who need that power, the people who dont need that power would fall into the niche of . Which in itself is reDONCULOUS. Because the only people who would actually want an APU would have to build a system from scratch or buy a system prebuilt in which case most of the time they dont give a fuck, And for those who would build a system from scratch and want to go for an APU would merely be enthusiasts of the APUs or somehow find some purpose for them. There is a good reason intel is crushing AMD and ati is doing so bad and has been since the fall of the 4770. Bad marketing, Innovations of little use to consumers (IE : R9 295x2 which is great from a technological standpoint but makes no fucking sense for 99.999999% of people for reasons other than the price tag) And finally, REBRANDING REBRANDING REBRANDING. I rest my case.
Devitalizer
of course its losing to the integrated gpu market. Im not talking about the integrated gpu market Im talking about AMDs APUs.....lrn2rd pls
Devitalizer because I said iGpu and Apu does not include intel. Sorry you're too braindead to make the difference between an AMD apu and Intel's integrated graphics :/....
I'll try to make it simpler to understand for kiddos like you in the future :)
What's the opening song?
I'm currently building my first PC and I have run across many crossroads but nevertheless it's almost finished. Very helpful video thanks!
Even a slightly over clocked 3770K processor can beat the FX-9590 in benchmarks as I had done so in Passmark. The performance of the 9590 in CINEBENCH R15 is even worse versus Intel.
You should really keep up with news.Those benchmarks are designed to slow down AMD performance an even try to correct the processors input data to set it as GenuinIntel.You can't trust anything from Futuremark or Cinebench.They are not accurate test.What graphics card was used?What was the time from beginning of the test to the end?Which was fastest to finish it's workload?If you cant answer these questions then you cant get correct information.
WarsunGames What news? Give me a break. AMD CPUs suck. Quite telling me this conspiracy that benchmark utilities favor Intel. Go to passmark bus if you don't believe me. There isn't one AMD CPU that even remotely phones close to any Intel CPU. Not one. CINEBENCH favors multicore CPUs; it doesn't matter as to whether or not the CPU is AMD or Intel. If AMD can't make a decent product then they are a waste of my money. Like really, you can't trust CINEBENCH. Hahaha. Wake up man. My 4960x would absolutely destroy all AMD CPUs our there unless your running some crazy Opteron server unit. Now I am switching over to Xeon. Sorry to say it... But Intel runs the show.
Sicher ?????
Cinebench is a crappy example because they were caught cheating they were or are still putting code to detect if you had an Intel CPU so it would purposely run slower on an AMD.
and yet another kool-aid drinking , butthurt, intel fanboy speaks.....
Best representation-
AMD=Android
Intel/Nvidia=Apple
SparkyBoy AMD being cheaper and more universal and having everyone hate it, Intel being expensive and everyone loving it (for lack of reasons stated). Yup
^^ true
i have no idea what you are trying to say, please dont comment again without thinking about your comments before you post them
***** I'm not an "isheep". In fact, I fucking hate apple
K3WRO AMD 'more universal' ... REALLY?
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
very nice video with a clear and precise analysis, nice x-men wallpaper :)
Dude you rock! Continue with what you have started this channel is my new go to source for info on all things tech. PEACE!
I am a amd fan boy lol, cant wait for zen
Not much point to this. I have an AMD desktop and an Intel laptop. Both are fine.
Forde3654Eire Try telling the fanboys that.
Yeah, I can only imagine... I think I'd get shot.
Forde3654Eire Each has their pluses and minuses. Over all they are of equal quality. With each release one will pull ahead of the other but that only lasts for a few short months. Normally, which you should choose is more dependent on the state of the market at the time you are shopping than anything else.
Also I would like to say that I find it somewhat humorous that people are arguing about the CURRENT validity of statements made on the subject a year ago. When you consider how much the industry changes from month to month, that is like someone today taking issue with someone's opinion in 1780 that the Kentucky Rifle is the best hunting rifle ever created. What was, was. What is, is and it probably won't be is next year.
Forde3654Eire Intel sucks, AMD is the best.
Invis Cheetah no
whats the song in the intro
thanks for the help
Great job on the video. Keep it up bro.
spotify uses basically no CPU power
can I run spottily at 60 fps?
+Paul M (Cappuccino) And 8k graphix I believe. My question is will it bend??? (ik its a dead meme by now)
Admit it ... You dont have money for intel xD
Fx 4300 $70-$79 or A10 7850 $104 And i like to use my elgato to stream, can i use stream command with any of those two or any other fx/a10 processor
for adobe after effects and adobe premire on budget i5 4460 or fx 6300
I had both - i7 3770k and FX8350 - Intel is not worth the investment. Both set at 4,5Ghz are running all games in the same fps rate, in 3dMark i7 got higher score.... but loses at Graph test!
Intel is just not worth the price, it's all about price.
Incorrect price isn't everything. You can get an intel core that least you a while and an AMD that last half the intel's while so you are only spending more money and decent processing AMD processors while intel will last you for a long time before getting bad
I like AMD as a company, but - for the most part - this video is simply wrong. AMD processors are not even close to modern Intel equivalents. Zen has me excited. But, until we see it released, AMD isn't really an option if you want a decent CPU. I'll address the points made in this video below.
1. Unfortunately, overclocking produces extra heat and causes chips to draw more power. With the efficiency and IPC Intel are currently offering, it makes no sense to buy an AMD chip so that you can overclock it to make it comparable to that of Intel. Sure, AMD processors _are_ more overclockable, but is that really a selling point?
2. Actually, Intel chips are now considered superior in terms of single-threaded _and_ multi-threaded workloads. Choosing AMD isn't a benefit for either.
3. AMD's APUs are certainly better than Intel's CPU+iGPUs in terms of graphics, but I'll reiterate: AMD isn't beneficial for single-threaded or multi-threaded workloads. I wouldn't say this makes AMD "better;" I'd say it balances the competition somewhat. You're right that Mantle (and now Vulkan) help with this, however.
4. Price is the only benefit AMD has over Intel currently. Let's hope Zen changes this.
You do realize the date this video came out right?...
AEON - An Expert On Normality Shit - this was an April Fools joke? Fooled me well. GG
GarethPW For a good PC Gaming but cheap, AMD is the best, but in the future you can buy an Intel if you put money away for it.
Now, I'm going to buy a PC gaming with AMD FX 6300, but I'll upgrade in future to Intel :)
Gaming PC*
Tudor Tdr If you can wait, I'd tell you to get Zen instead. Otherwise, an i3-6100 would probably be better than an FX 6300, to be honest.
Do you Live around Irvine.
intro song?
4 REAL REASONS WHY AMD IS BETTER THAN INTEL:
1. It keeps you wam in the winter.
2. Better box art.
3. Bigger stock heatsinks.
4. You know it's cheaper, who cares about FASTER!?
+Xbendoesbricks in fact intel chips are not faster. Even the last 6600k is behind AMD...old...architecture.
+Michaël “deasy” Colignon I'm by no means an expert, I've just got into the world of PC's for a real short time, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought AMD's architecture was behind causing their chips to be by far inferior to Intel's on single threaded performance which is very important for video editing. At least that's what I here a lot of people rambling on about...
I don't know about the use of cpu power in video editing, i don't even know if it's monothreaded. What i know is that in multithreading (like video encoding) the 6600 last intel arch is still behind amd old arch(lol by 2% behind with x264 and 0.5% in x265 but it's a shame it's not above amd ).
Well AMD has the record for highest OC. They kneaded to disable all but two cores and cool the chip with liquid helium to achieve it. When it comes to the real world Intels chips are actually better at overclocking due to the lower TDP.
Also when it come to multi threaded apps intels quad core hyper threaded chips out preform AMD's 8 core ( four full and four half core ) chips.
The only reason to go with AMD is the low cost.
***** But consumers can afford intels chips. If they couldn't intel would not charge as much as they do.
Intel know's precisely what they are doing with there pricing and that's why they turn a profit. Unlike AMD who despite having both consoles and a GPU line are still in the hole 2 billion.
***** I use the blue ray drive in my main rig to back up all my disk based movies to a NAS. That way i can watch them on any device and keep the disks safe.
yep I have semi truck full helium to cool my amd @ 8 Ghz 8 for abou the next month before the cpe crack from thermal stress. amd aitn rookie company they been aournd 1970 80s I think. I think they like playing the underdog role? I not gonna pay to find out and prove the world wrong.
Very interesting video! I wasn't aware you could get processors with foodstamps.
AMD bitches........ Greetings from Russia.
Леонид Босов intel is a more faster cpu, done. Built better, more cache, and more better for the gaming race
***** BUT
FX 8350 + Mainboard 280 €
Intel 4770k + Mainboard ~430 €
core for core intel smashes amd, fuck those 8 core threaded shit. AMD is good for some things, and intel is good for some things. Im not saying either or better, just for the personal use mainly based toward making videos myself and gaming, intel is the way to go. Amd however is great for budget build with there kaveri apu's and such.
***** Why APU and not an fx like fx 6300 is a great CPU for the price 120 euros and an i5 440 is 215 euros ,but depends on the budged and the country (maybe the fx 6300 and the i5 was not a great comparasion.
i have an i5 4440[ xD, but yeah it all just depends what your using it for
I had a ivy bridge core i3 notebook clocked at 1.8ghz. Sold it bought amd apu A8 2.0ghz turbo boost to 2.4ghz with 1gb of dedicated graphics ran the exact same games that I ran on my core i3 and exact same resolution and my amd computer played the games at 15 fps less than my i3 notebook I was disappointed. I returned the computer and got a core i5 with 2gb dedicated nvidia graphics card. I'm glad I did that apu frustrated me to the max! And yes I updated all drivers and nothing and tried to over clock but could not said error graphics card not found.
They are not the same.AMD is a whole different type of set up.You need to learn what you can do with it before just installing an running it.APU work off memory.You can just throw it into a system.You need efficient ram by what the box you bough it says an you need to know if you can adjust memory on the North Bridge to get performance.Without these functions you really cant experience what your system can do.
WarsunGames I was not going to open up my laptop just to do the north bridge stuff which I should not have to do. Also I hade r5 graphics card and 1866mhz ddr3l memory 8gb
Heyyou cant say you were disappointed with it when you never took any kind of a look at what you paid for?That's like buying a car taking the bus home then going to bed.Waking up in the morning seeing your car delivered an then saying I never wanted this an sending it back.
At least your honest . If these others would be honest it would save others the same headache you suffered
As WarsunGames said, you need to plan before you buy. You could greatly increase the performance by choosing faster ram and balancing it out among your ram slots to take advantage of multichannel ram. Basically, if you're stupid or you just want a system that works, Intel is what you want. If you're willing to think and plan, AMD is more cost-effective. And have you taken into account that the CPU frequency is changes based on the load on the CPU? I OCed an AMD Athlon 64 3K+ to 2.8GHz but it didn't stay that way.
AMD has more cores, Intel has faster cores. Until games start utilizing more cores Intel will almost always beat AMD equivalent flagship CPU's in performance. Look at it like this. AMD is able to read a book fast, but Intel can read two different parts of the book at the same time at competitive speeds. Buying an AMD with 8 cores is pointless if your not playing a game or using an application that utilizes them. It's like having 2 GTX 780ti's in SLI running on single monitor 1080p. Yes its powerful but its not really practical or efficient.
It's the price point that makes it practical.
Tek syndicate made a 5 video series on how the FX can out perform the Intel i7 in streaming and gaming at resolutions over 1080p. Very cool considering that they are much less.
Wouldn't an 8.5ghz OC require LN2?
Cores is future, amd>intel
+'makovsky. They've been saying that for years. It hasn't worked out that way.
+hartsickdisciple That is becouse games don`t utilize multi cores properly atm. However, thanks to AMD`s Mantle Microsoft decided to make DirectX12 which almost certainly becomes popular and replaces DirectX11. And DirectX12 will have multi core support.
Look at DirectX12 and DirectX11 benchmarks, in DirectX11 AMD is lacking behind, but in DirectX12 AMD is equal to others. But that is pure perfomance, lets remember that AMD often has better price to perfomance ratio. (note, i am not sure about that last part, it has been awhile when i checked that)
i cant wait for the zen
***** same. The guy who engineered the Athlon XP ( Intel killer ) back in the day is the Team Lead on the Zen team. I will buy it so fast :) AMD user since 2002 and proud owner of Athlon XP and Phenom 2 x4 BE.
it will be bad ass
***** Btw I am thinking about build an fx-8350 in a few months God willing. Should I wait for zen or it wont matter because I may not have to upgrade for a few years?
i built an 8350 and cant wait to update to the zen
+XxHAMADEHxX wait for Zen. what are you running right now?
i have a Asus M5A 78L-M LX3 Motherboard so which AMD Processor should i buy for it it supports AMD AM3+ processor
Fx 6300 or fx8350
Can you use APU and an additional dedicated GPU to achieve SLI-like performance?
+Micky Kurniawan Yeah.It`s called dual graphics.Been around since 2007.during the time of the FM1 an Fuzion motherboards.
But can you achieve SLI-like performance level?
Where are you getting your infos from. The 4 core 4790K outperforms the 8 core 9590 in multi threaded applications too. Battlefield will run on higher FPS and you can overclock your 9590 to 5ghz but it will have less performance than an out of the box 4790k. The I7 has 3 times the power per watt and that saves me my 100 euro in a year (15.09 pt/W vs 4.99 pt/W). The 4790K has much lower typical power consumption 71.5W vs 178.75W. I don't know were you guys come from and how much your electricity cost but the 4970K is cheaper for me in the long run. I only have a 4770k but its better than any CPU AMD has. Plus its running at 800mhz right now saving me more money. So in the end Intel is cheaper. Even if battlefield ran better on the 8core amd its only game and every other game would run far better. I don't give a fuck that the 4790 is 9 months younger. For both of these cpus you will need a GPU that doesn't bottleneck them.
Totally agree with you
I totally agree. I own a 4790k and it's amazing. What is the point of having 8 cores when each core is very weak? if you compare 4790k to fx 8350 in single threaded performance the 8350 only has 1/3 the power of a 4790k. Also, 4790k wins by far in bf4
Fuck intel gays amd is better and goid for my wallet
juan asandro define better. If better is raw power Intel wins. If it's power/watt Intel wins by far. If it's power/core intel wins by far again. Amd only wins in price but over time intel will be cheaper due to the power consumption of AMD cpus.
juan asandro At least intel gays have benchmarks and facts to back them up and amd dudes only insults and price per performance that is EXTREMELY misleading!. My comment is 100% accurate. I knew the 4790k was better but I still took my time looked up benchmarks and specs to be 100% right and not to mislead people. Fuck off with your wallet cause I just proved the 4970k is cheaper.
The problem with amd is that it costs less to buy but costs more over time. AMD:s significantly higher TDP will burn though the most coolers. You can't go aircooled with AMD:s top tier CPU:s.
And if we compare in the same pricerange: amd-8350 and Intel Core i5 4690k. If we check out the performance per watt ratio the AMD one has a ratio of 4.93 p/w while the intel smacks the fuck out of AMD with a ratio of 13 p/w.
And price per dollar wise intel wins that one too with 6,6/10 while AMD got 6,4/10.
I hope you are joking.
Jonte Larsson ja ?
Jonte Larsson
He isn't joking.I am using a FX 9370 the so called TDP can go to a MAX keyword MAX TDP of 220watts.But i am not overclocking.it doesn't need to be OC.I am using a $68(When i bough it)Water cooler the Corsair
berzu21 Jonte Larsson Depending on the i7, the 8 core fx chips can be cooler. If you're talking Ivy Bridge and Haswell i7's (aside from the 4790k), the fx chips are WAY cooler. If you're talking about anything older and the 4790k, the i7 runs cooler.
berzu21 The 4790k actually is different. They fixed the thermal paste issue that caused TONS of heat. The 4790k is the only haswell cpu with low temperatures. Other wise, Haswell and Haswell refresh are hotter than the 8 core chips.
This video aged well. Ryzen liberated us from 4 cores 8 threads in 2017. And then the Ryzen APUs became popular due to GPU shortages in 2018 and during the COVID-19 pandemic.
anyone else notice the mouse and pad move after cut edit at 1:40 ??
probably was looking up more bullshit to say
lol haha maybe he was using a script XD Kepler Born
vinny460 lol yeah probably