Piggybacking on your comment... Just thinking of an easier way for those with no tapping experience or tools to do it. Make the hole bigger than the bolt so it slides through with just enough clearance. Put the flat bolt head on the bottom and the nut up top. Same easy angle adjustment. No tapping as an option (yeah call me what you will but damn smarter not harder). What am I missing?
Brilliant, I can't believe you made it so simple. I was worried it was going to a complicated build but I will knock one while my potatoes are boiling. Subbed about a week ago, loving your vids.
This is BY FAR the simplest bevel jig I've ever seen. I have some angle iron sections lying around the garage that I could actually put to some real use. Awesome video! Subbed!
I used the same thing as my first jig. The only thing I did different was use a brass lag bolt so it wouldn’t scratch the work rest. Cheers man. Well done video.
By far the best jig video here the trick after a couple of passes to move the screw to change the angle, keep pressure low in the beginning, make sure your edge it's not too thin to avoid warpage during heat treatment and completely cool your blade after a few passes...Great video, thanks
I just subscribed based on this video alone. Thanks for keeping it simple and using shop tools that even the most amateur of us have. I've been doing bevels by hand up to this point, and oh how 'artistic' they've come out.
As a fellow red bearder who noticed your elaborate method of finger bandage, I thought I'd share a helpful tip- 3m Nexcare Absolute Waterproof Tape. That stuff has changed my life. It truly is absolutely waterproof, you can wash an entire sink full of dishes like you don't own a dishwasher & then take a half hour long shower & the tape will still look like you just applied it. It's amazing stuff.
I made a similar jig that uses 2 bolts for adjustment. Yours looks much better. Mine is about 12 inches long and it doesn't need to be. I'll modify mine and I'm sure it will be easier to use. 2 bolts is overkill. I also use the kant twist 1" clamps. They're perfect for this application. I want to get the 3 inch ones but the availability is questionable. Thanks for the video. I get more useful tips from your channel than any other.
wow thats WAY simpler than i thought it would be, would have saved me alot of headaches free handing had i known this a few years back, thanks a ton for the video! questions though, does the thickness of angle iron matter? also does the jig work on different thicknesses/widths of stock and if so is all that adjustment just done from the bolt and nut? thanks in advance
I made the same jig and it works very good, the only problem with the jig is that since the the bolt is the only surface actually making contact with the base, it tends to move on each side, it doesn’t stay level to the base of the belt sander, it still leaves a clean bevel though if kept straight
Julian789 yes that is an issue. With a big enough work rest and a steady hand I’ve been able to manage it though. If I get too aggressive it can wobble.
I just started making knives a few months ago and I bought my first belt grinder today. I can't wait to try this jig out and see how it works! Thanks for the video!
I recommend you drill two shallow holes on each corner underneath the L profile and glue in bearing balls, so you can get a three point contact at all times, reduce drag significantly and eliminate rocking of the jig. You could also drill and glue in a bearing ball in the tip of the screw.
Yo man nice jig! I just made my first knife with a jig and it turned out okay. I had to turn a saber grind into a flat grind in the end. Can anyone tell me if there is any adjustment on how to get the curve the grind right towards the point of the blade? My grind wasnt a uniform debth and I kept messing with it until I screwed it up and had to improvise it into a flat.
I think I know what you're talking about. As you grind towards the tip the hand furthest away from the tip needs to move towards your body. So the tang needs to move towards your body. Good luck sir.
Man, I use my eye and go back and forth until it's right. You could throw a file guide on there. Some people have had great success with a carbide file guide on the grinder.
I need to make this. Since I don’t have a tap to thread a bolt into the angle iron, what would you recommend doing? I was thinking of using wood instead but that probably wouldn’t last very long. I may just have to invest in a tap lol. Great video!
Do you happen to have a welder? You could drill an over sized hole, then weld a nut to the jig so that the screw threads into the nut. If you don't have a welder, I bet JB Weld would be sufficient to hold the nut in place above the over sized hole!
Sharp Works you don’t need a tap. Drill a hole through a piece of 2x4 and use a bolt with two nuts - one on each side of the wood. You could even use a single nut (on the side touching your work rest) but this could introduce vertical “jiggle.” @Trollsky has a video of a wooden jig.
Hey, fot a question. The quarantine is making finding stuff a pain. Do you think this could be accomplished with 1 1/4 x 1/8" angle iron? Thanks again, your info has really moved me forward in knife making.
Hi Thanks for your cool video and advices .I am newbie ,where do you buy the blue ink ? and I saw the big magnet to keep the blade ,where did you bough it please ? sorry for my English I am French Thanks
When you use a jig like this, do you start and adjust the bevel as you take the grind toward the spine or do you move the knife from side to side (of jig) each time you change adjust the bevel?
Scott Maranto yes, it can. The jig is only there to set your angle. It doesn’t matter what the opposing side looks like. Though, the blade does need to be “straight” in the jig, so you’d need to watch the vertical angle.
Great job love your work I would like to ask you a couple of questions with this jig does the spine of the knife have to be straight also you say you grind to the center line how thick do you leave for your edge thanks for sharing
Nope most of my have a arc. You'll need to clamp it really good though. I grind to around a 15-25 thousandths before HT and then to around 10 thousandths before sharpening.
Good video easy clean an effective could you be so kind you tell me what size Kant twist clamp that your uding?? hard to tell from the video it looks like a size 2 but I'm not sure....thanks
Fixing to start buying some equipment to make me my own set of knives. Do you like your belt sander? If so what brand is it or do you recommend something else as there are much to choose from!
Hey there! I did a review of this starter belt sander a while back (here it is = ruclips.net/video/3AvFCTcLLuY/видео.html) If you have more dollars I'd look at NorthRidge Mod-E grinder frame for a 2x72. It's a damn good deal. You would then need a motor and VFD.
Are you starting your grind off with a steep angle, and then working out to a more open angle? Or did you set your jig all at the same angle the entire time?
I've seen it done both ways. I generally start with a steep angle and work my way down. Sometimes when I have the jig set at the finishing angle for side #1, I will switch to side #2 and leave it. Both of these methods work well for me.
Très cool ta vidéo, mais a mon avis tu devrais en mettre deux des boulons et écrous, pour une stabilité meilleur et surtout un plus grand confort de travail. Merci pour ta vidéo trop cool a voir et a faire partager a mes potes
When making my grinding jig, I realized why make the jig, angle adjustable. The work table on my grinder is easily adjustable. Leave the jig at 90 degrees and adjust the work table for bevel angle.
When using your jig, which is brilliantly simple, do you concern yourself with angle of the setting or you eye ball and adjust the jig angle as the grind progresses?
@RedBeardOps your videos have been helpful. A shop layout, and why you layed out that way would be very helpful as newbies like me are looking for our optimal working area setup. I'm going through various learning curves on my Housemade grinder and TRmaker jig and file guide. Last grinding session I turn a gyuto into a sujihiki, just could stop grinding. Lol. So much to learn.
What if the belt grinder is not vertical but it is somewhat horizontal (angles but not vertical)? No rest for the bottom. I rent space in a forge and that’s the only grinder they have.
@@RedBeardOps I wish I could attach a photo to show you but it’s a different setup. I agree that freehand may be my only option unless I purchase a different type for myself.
I've seen that recommendation on Walter Sorrells jig. While I'm not saying it's wrong; I haven't seen any tracks worn into my work rest yet. That being said, I would use brass if I built it again and if I had a high Quality work rest, which I don't! After I build a new work rest for this grinder, I think I'll upgrade to the brass.
Hey Venomous, to be honest I don't remember. I downloaded it off of youtube's free music page for creators. I tried to find it in my files but couldn't. Sorry about that.
Awesome video, simple yet effective, perferct! thanks a lot for the info!
Really happy you liked the video! Thanks for watching.
Piggybacking on your comment... Just thinking of an easier way for those with no tapping experience or tools to do it. Make the hole bigger than the bolt so it slides through with just enough clearance. Put the flat bolt head on the bottom and the nut up top. Same easy angle adjustment. No tapping as an option (yeah call me what you will but damn smarter not harder). What am I missing?
Very simple , thanks a lot
That's about the simplest I've seen so far. Keep it simple sunshine.
Cheers man, glad you liked it.
Awesome, I've watched many videos on this same topic and this one is the only one that actually delivered.. Thank You.
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant, I can't believe you made it so simple. I was worried it was going to a complicated build but I will knock one while my potatoes are boiling. Subbed about a week ago, loving your vids.
Glad it helped! Thanks man!
Thank you! Doing this….simpler is usually better!
Glad it was helpful!
The simplest, the best. I'll make one like this.
L.F. Luis thank you sir!!
The simplest videos jig I have seen. Thanks for making this video. Im save it to my knife making tips.
Heck yeah, thank you Carlos!
Love it. I know what I'm making next.
Awesome, cheers Adam!
You have the best and most informative videos. Thank you for sharing your work!!!
Glad you like them! Cheers!
This is BY FAR the simplest bevel jig I've ever seen. I have some angle iron sections lying around the garage that I could actually put to some real use. Awesome video! Subbed!
Hey man, glad you liked it! Let me know how it works out for you! Still takes a little bit of practice to get used to. Cheers man!
Best jig I've seen yet. Awesome job
Thank you sir! Glad you enjoyed it!
Love the band aid
lol
I used the same thing as my first jig. The only thing I did different was use a brass lag bolt so it wouldn’t scratch the work rest. Cheers man. Well done video.
Mike Tausig a brass bolt would be an improvement! Especially if you have a nice work rest!
I made your jig and it simplified my knife making tremendously. Thanks!!
Glad to hear it!
By far the best jig video here the trick after a couple of passes to move the screw to change the angle, keep pressure low in the beginning, make sure your edge it's not too thin to avoid warpage during heat treatment and completely cool your blade after a few passes...Great video, thanks
Glad you liked it!
Dang!! That is soo genius!
Glad you liked it!
Just made one!!! Thanks!
Fantastic!
simple... usefull..
I'm going make my own like yours.. 😁😁
That’s great. Thanks for the video. I have all those tools and materials on hand.
Good luck!
All the best ideas are dead simple!
🇬🇧🤜⚡️🤛🇺🇸
Thank you!
verry simple i like
Awesome! Thanks!
@@RedBeardOps continu
This help a lot thank you
Glad it helped!
I just subscribed based on this video alone. Thanks for keeping it simple and using shop tools that even the most amateur of us have. I've been doing bevels by hand up to this point, and oh how 'artistic' they've come out.
Awesome John! Thank you sir! Glad you enjoyed it. Good luck with the jig!
GREAT IDEA!
As a fellow red bearder who noticed your elaborate method of finger bandage, I thought I'd share a helpful tip- 3m Nexcare Absolute Waterproof Tape. That stuff has changed my life. It truly is absolutely waterproof, you can wash an entire sink full of dishes like you don't own a dishwasher & then take a half hour long shower & the tape will still look like you just applied it. It's amazing stuff.
Thanks for the tip! Cheers!
Great job. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for watching! Cheers man!
Best hand tools are the simpliest!
Cheers Fredrich!
I made a similar jig that uses 2 bolts for adjustment. Yours looks much better. Mine is about 12 inches long and it doesn't need to be. I'll modify mine and I'm sure it will be easier to use. 2 bolts is overkill. I also use the kant twist 1" clamps. They're perfect for this application. I want to get the 3 inch ones but the availability is questionable. Thanks for the video. I get more useful tips from your channel than any other.
Heck yeah! Thank you sir! Have a great one
Hell yea awesome idea! I don’t have a welder so iv been having a hard time trying to make a jig for sharping! Thanks for sharing!
You bet. Cheers
wow thats WAY simpler than i thought it would be, would have saved me alot of headaches free handing had i known this a few years back, thanks a ton for the video! questions though, does the thickness of angle iron matter? also does the jig work on different thicknesses/widths of stock and if so is all that adjustment just done from the bolt and nut? thanks in advance
Hey Steve, the thickness of the jig doesn't really matter. And it can be used on multiple different thickness blade stock.
Perfect😊just what I've been looking for👍🇬🇧
Hey Mark! Glad you liked it.
Fantastic
Nice job!
Dean Johnson Thank you sir!!
I will be making one of these
You won't be disappointed! I still use mine to set my initial bevels all the time.
Nice and simple!I like that!
Thanks! I've seen them used before. Pretty surprised it worked as well as it did. Happy I had some 1/4'' angle lying around!
I made the same jig and it works very good, the only problem with the jig is that since the the bolt is the only surface actually making contact with the base, it tends to move on each side, it doesn’t stay level to the base of the belt sander, it still leaves a clean bevel though if kept straight
Julian789 yes that is an issue. With a big enough work rest and a steady hand I’ve been able to manage it though. If I get too aggressive it can wobble.
Very easy to make
Thanks for watching Brian! I agree!
Any of yall use this design too? Does it work well for you?
JKeetonKnives it works
I used the Walter-Sorrells design, which is similar. They work fairly well.
I just started making knives a few months ago and I bought my first belt grinder today. I can't wait to try this jig out and see how it works! Thanks for the video!
I recommend you drill two shallow holes on each corner underneath the L profile and glue in bearing balls, so you can get a three point contact at all times, reduce drag significantly and eliminate rocking of the jig. You could also drill and glue in a bearing ball in the tip of the screw.
Sounds like a good idea!
Yeah nice one, I’ll give it a go.
Cool stuff for sure. Do you have a guide for how to get a particular angle with this jig?
Hey man, I don't. I'd start with an aggressive angle, then work your grind back to the spine with adjustments.
That’s great. I’ve seen them. With 2 bolts in the jig. Do you get any wobble with just the 1 bolt?
Hey Robert, you can get some wobble if you press too hard on one side or too hard into the belt. Like all things, it takes some practice to use.
thats what i was thinking 2 bolts seems like the more stable option
Yo man nice jig! I just made my first knife with a jig and it turned out okay. I had to turn a saber grind into a flat grind in the end. Can anyone tell me if there is any adjustment on how to get the curve the grind right towards the point of the blade? My grind wasnt a uniform debth and I kept messing with it until I screwed it up and had to improvise it into a flat.
I think I know what you're talking about. As you grind towards the tip the hand furthest away from the tip needs to move towards your body. So the tang needs to move towards your body. Good luck sir.
Muy bien 😀😀 10
Muchas gracias. Me alegra que hayas encontrado valor en este video.
I'll be trying this for sure.my freehand is not to good yet.
I feel you sir! It takes a ton of practice for sure.
Do you just use your eye to keep the plunge line even or could you include some kind of stop or blocking or something to keep them even on both sides?
Man, I use my eye and go back and forth until it's right. You could throw a file guide on there. Some people have had great success with a carbide file guide on the grinder.
I need to make this. Since I don’t have a tap to thread a bolt into the angle iron, what would you recommend doing? I was thinking of using wood instead but that probably wouldn’t last very long. I may just have to invest in a tap lol. Great video!
Do you happen to have a welder? You could drill an over sized hole, then weld a nut to the jig so that the screw threads into the nut. If you don't have a welder, I bet JB Weld would be sufficient to hold the nut in place above the over sized hole!
Or you could simply weld a nut to the outside of the angle iron, no need for drilling holes
Sharp Works you don’t need a tap. Drill a hole through a piece of 2x4 and use a bolt with two nuts - one on each side of the wood. You could even use a single nut (on the side touching your work rest) but this could introduce vertical “jiggle.” @Trollsky has a video of a wooden jig.
Simple and effective....
Hey, fot a question. The quarantine is making finding stuff a pain. Do you think this could be accomplished with 1 1/4 x 1/8" angle iron? Thanks again, your info has really moved me forward in knife making.
Kevin Driscoll heck yeah, glad to hear that. I think it’s worth a try! Should be rigid enough to get you going.
@@RedBeardOps while we're at it, what is the size of that square tube you use as a muffler pipe?
@@MKevinDriscoll If I remember right that is 2x2x1/8''
What angle do you start your grinds at? Great video
Hey Jack, I don't measure the angles to be honest. I start my grinds at a very sharp angle, then move the grind up towards the spine as I go.
Hi Thanks for your cool video and advices .I am newbie ,where do you buy the blue ink ? and I saw the big magnet to keep the blade ,where did you bough it please ? sorry for my English I am French
Thanks
Cheers sir! Glad you're liking the videos. Here is the fluid - Dykem Layout Fluid: amzn.to/3AjEoE0
When you use a jig like this, do you start and adjust the bevel as you take the grind toward the spine or do you move the knife from side to side (of jig) each time you change adjust the bevel?
When I used a jig I would adjust the height to grow the bevel towards the spine.
What angle do you set the face to, and is ot standard or are you adjusting with different styles of knife?
Hey Mike, Like you said I adjust the angle with different styles of knives. It's a trial and error thing.
KISS baby!!!…..keep it simple, stupid!…I love it!!
Can it be used to bevel a double edge blade. Trying to make a sgian dubh, bevels and plunge lines are a mess working by hand.
Hey Scott, I've never used it this way, but I don't see why not.
Scott Maranto yes, it can. The jig is only there to set your angle. It doesn’t matter what the opposing side looks like. Though, the blade does need to be “straight” in the jig, so you’d need to watch the vertical angle.
Great jig. Quick question, how do you know what angle to set at?
The secret is to start with an aggressive angle, grind to the center line, then change the angle until the height of your bevel is where you want it.
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Great job love your work I would like to ask you a couple of questions with this jig does the spine of the knife have to be straight also you say you grind to the center line how thick do you leave for your edge thanks for sharing
Nope most of my have a arc. You'll need to clamp it really good though. I grind to around a 15-25 thousandths before HT and then to around 10 thousandths before sharpening.
@@RedBeardOps thanks for sharing great work keep it up
Good video easy clean an effective could you be so kind you tell me what size Kant twist clamp that your uding?? hard to tell from the video it looks like a size 2 but I'm not sure....thanks
Hey Mark, thanks for the comments! I'm using a 1'' holding size Kant Twist clamp 401. It's a little guy! Love it.
Просто и эффективно!!!😃
Have a great day!
Fixing to start buying some equipment to make me my own set of knives. Do you like your belt sander? If so what brand is it or do you recommend something else as there are much to choose from!
Hey there! I did a review of this starter belt sander a while back (here it is = ruclips.net/video/3AvFCTcLLuY/видео.html)
If you have more dollars I'd look at NorthRidge Mod-E grinder frame for a 2x72. It's a damn good deal. You would then need a motor and VFD.
So the stop nut raises our reduces the level of the bevel?
The bolt does, the stop nut holds the bolt in place where you set it. 🙌
@@RedBeardOps thank you!
Where did you get that cool clamp?
Right here sir! Kant Twist Clamp 1'' - amzn.to/332ygmu
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For future watchers, I also added this link to the description of this video. Cheers!
Thanks
My bevel jig grind more on one side near to spin.
What could be the issue? Angle is fixed.
hey man, i'm really not sure
I like it. KISS. Not $237 with a bunch of complexity
It gets the job done!
Are you starting your grind off with a steep angle, and then working out to a more open angle? Or did you set your jig all at the same angle the entire time?
I've seen it done both ways. I generally start with a steep angle and work my way down. Sometimes when I have the jig set at the finishing angle for side #1, I will switch to side #2 and leave it. Both of these methods work well for me.
Pfft. I’ve been way over thinking this whole process for way too long to see this😂
Cheers Randall!
@@RedBeardOps walked out in the shop… I’ll have one in another 1/2 hour😅
At around 2:15, what's that tool called that you used to put threads in the steel?
That's called a "tap"
Très cool ta vidéo, mais a mon avis tu devrais en mettre deux des boulons et écrous, pour une stabilité meilleur et surtout un plus grand confort de travail. Merci pour ta vidéo trop cool a voir et a faire partager a mes potes
@Philippe Zaoui Je suis content que vous ayez apprécié la vidéo! Merci pour les suggestions.
Do you operate out of Oregon?
Hey Derek, I do not.
When making my grinding jig, I realized why make the jig, angle adjustable. The work table on my grinder is easily adjustable. Leave the jig at 90 degrees and adjust the work table for bevel angle.
Yes sir, I like this method too!
When using your jig, which is brilliantly simple, do you concern yourself with angle of the setting or you eye ball and adjust the jig angle as the grind progresses?
Back when I used this jig I'd set an aggressive orientation and work back. No angle setting.
@RedBeardOps your videos have been helpful. A shop layout, and why you layed out that way would be very helpful as newbies like me are looking for our optimal working area setup. I'm going through various learning curves on my Housemade grinder and TRmaker jig and file guide. Last grinding session I turn a gyuto into a sujihiki, just could stop grinding. Lol. So much to learn.
What if the belt grinder is not vertical but it is somewhat horizontal (angles but not vertical)? No rest for the bottom. I rent space in a forge and that’s the only grinder they have.
I can't say I understand your set up. But it sounds like you'll just need to adjust to your conditions. Maybe freehand is what you'll need to learn
@@RedBeardOps I wish I could attach a photo to show you but it’s a different setup. I agree that freehand may be my only option unless I purchase a different type for myself.
Ciao, che nastro hai usato nel video ?
Hahahaha, ho usato del nastro adesivo sul dito. Saluti
Probably a dumb question since everyone else seems to get it, but how exactly does the bolt come into play?
Hey Joseph, if you don't have a workrest that can tilt, you can use the bolt to change the angle.
@@RedBeardOps awesome. Thanks!
Use a brass nut and blot,you wont start cutting in to your surface plate
I've seen that recommendation on Walter Sorrells jig. While I'm not saying it's wrong; I haven't seen any tracks worn into my work rest yet. That being said, I would use brass if I built it again and if I had a high Quality work rest, which I don't! After I build a new work rest for this grinder, I think I'll upgrade to the brass.
1:29 "measure with a micrometer, mark with a marker and cut with a chainsaw" ...uncle john
Lol
Ive been trying to understand why one would need a job that bevels if the D-plate of your grinder already bevels?
Yes sir, you could just use a piece of angle iron and move your platen face around. Cheers!
Sweeeet
Can the dimensions of this project
7.5'' long, about 1.2'' tall after being cut. Any size bolt will do.
whats your intro song called?
Hey Venomous, to be honest I don't remember. I downloaded it off of youtube's free music page for creators. I tried to find it in my files but couldn't. Sorry about that.
All g
Thx anyway
What happened to hoy finger?
I was careless! Grinder bit me.
kiss in action !
Glad you liked it!
Using those gloves with your band saw and grinders creates HUGE pinch point risks that could easily take your finger or your whole hand
Have a great day!
Knife Angle Calculation (android app)
interesting
Using the bandsaw with gloves on makes me extremely nervous
Sorry sir! I generally don't now days.