..I just made that jig, I see many people asking about the angle to make it. I just took a blank and started grinding it, and then found the angle too much, so I simply ground down the bolt beads under the jig until I was happy with the angle. You can only reduce the angle if you to that. To increase the angle use a thicker bolt head, or just spotweld a spot to the head and then grind it to suit. It works a treat , thank you!
I think you could make the holes for the bottom part threaded so you could change the angle if you desired. Someone let me know if there is a reason that won't work because i plan to build one also.
That is what I was looking for simple to make easy to use. I have made 3 of these. I have one that cuts bevels for axe heads and 2 for knifes with a bifferent angle. No fancy setup on checking to see if angle is correct because it never changes. Thanks for sharing your knowledge John B aka PopPop
I just made mine out of a 2x4 and i adjusted my circular saw to cut the edg of it at a 10 degree angle and just a couple of flat flange wood screwes and it has served me very well, im gonna steel your idea though because im upgrading rigs ive been on the ol harbor freight finally saved up a few grand to get a real belt sander
I made something similar to that but I welded 2 nuts on top the angel steel where the adjustment 1/4-20's are, & welded a piece of 1/8" flat bar for blade holder. Basically the same thing though.👍👍
I'm totally new to knife making, so I may be talking out my bush here. I've been researching DIY jigs and this one seems to be the easiest for folks that don't have that many power tools. The only thing that I would add to it would be nylon caps for the bottom bolts or the adhesive glides. That way, if you're using it a lot, it won't produce a groove in your platform over time. That's what I'm planning on doing to the one I build so if you be so kind, let me know if I'm on the right track. Also, I don't weld and some of these other jigs require it. But, I do JB weld! So, for some of you discouraged on the welded jigs, get some JB! Not to be confused with JD. That's good too though. Happy knife making!
Dude, that's a great idea. You will just need to make sure and replace them here and there because the will get sanded down as you slide it back and forth.
I made a extention plate for my belt sander it's 14" long 6" wide ss polished plate I use it anytime I will have a tool moving on top of the plate. I also use soft aluminum angle and brass bolts to make my jigs. I have cutting/tap oil at the table and I oil the top plate for smooth motion John B aka PopPop
It really just depends on the intended use of the knife. With that being said, I don't focus on the angle as much as I do the height of the bevels. Whether it's going to be a Scandi grind, Saber grind, or a full flat grind. This plus the height of the blade from edge to spine are what helps me figure out what "Angle" I would be grinding at.
This is a fantastic project, just built something very similar. Lemme say tho, it won’t save you from goofing up your lines with a piece of steel you didn’t realize was bent 🤫
I LIKE IT !! BUT I think I would of used the Hardware in opposite places. I'm going to go make one now except instead of hex head bolts ground to desired height secured with a nut. I'm going to drill & tap the two holes and go with a low profile rounded head that i could adjust and then lock in place with an elastic stop nut. I think that will give a good lock with the vibration with out possibly stripping the few threads by over tightening. I'd like to also come up with a better set up to hold blade. I was thinking a hex head bolt would be better because it has a larger even flat surface. I'd also like to incorporate a clamp system right into that portion of the jig and eliminate the need for a bulky additional clamp. Any ideas or criticism of mine please respond. I'll comment back with how it went and the clamping system I come up with when I'm hands on.
You can mark both sides with a marker to match them. But, most of the time I eyeball them. I've ground about 600 knives at this point and it's just second nature now.
Did you clamp the blade onto the face with the two screws or does it sit on top of the screws? Also, what is the width of the angle iron you used, 2" square, or something, looks good, I want to try that, I've only got a 1"×30" beltgrinder though...
Almost everything I do is by eye. I have a weird ability to make things very square when go by what I think looks right. So I didn't really go by any particular angle.
You note that you don't need a belt grinder to make this, but of course the tool isn't particularly useful without one! Nice jig, I like the simplicity.
This jig works great with a wheel grinder too. I have clamped down my angel grinder and used this tool to cut bevels. I have glued sandpaper to a board and hand ground bevels in New blades. When I am at the hunting club after hunting we challenge each other that was when I thought up the glued sandpaper to a board. Well 5 minute appoxy
I made one a couple years ago, that was at about 7° from the work rest and most of my stock is .187 stock. Seems to give me a decent height in my bevel. The only problem I have, is when using a jig, when k get near the tip of my blade, my bevel doesn’t want to stay even and gets noticeably smaller toward the point. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Sometimes that's really just because of the blade profile. On knives with a big curve up towards the tip, you need to rotate the handle side of the knfe back towards you as you grind up to the tip.
Btw you can bolt your work table underneath your tooling arm on your kmg. I don’t have one, but I figure if it is drilled and tapped all the way through then it should not be that much of a problem.
oOoOO I just saw your other video making a stop. What would you recommend if I don't have a table for this jig? I have the harbor freight 6x36 and 1x30 belt sanders? I understand these are not preferred but I just randomly wanted to make a knife and this bevel is the only thing stopping me
You can make different jigs. You will only need a few of them, you will be surprised at the amount of knives you make that have the same degree Bevels.
You can make it adjustable - just move the two holes in the base toward the edge and tap them... then you can adjust the angle by turning the bolt - use round heads with a nut/washer to lock the position.
Not on this particular style of jig, I will be making an adjustable bevel jig soon though. I wanted this one to be as simple as you could get so that people just getting into knife making could make it.
Now you will, over time, scratch and score the sander table because of the 2 bolt heads on your jig. They need to be a softer material than the work surface.
how do you like that portable band saw? Ive considered getting one but havent been willing to bite the bullet and buy one. Seems like blades would be $$ and wear out fast?
It is absolutely worth the investment, once you cut out your first few knives you will be thinking "why on earth did I wait this long to get one of these?" The blades aren't expensive and a blade will last for a while.
One rear central bolt the other way uo and rounded with a locking nut would ensure it's level and give you any angle adjustment, not just the one. Plus with only one point of contact at the rear it fits smaller tables too.
I've Thought about getting Some thicker rubber gloves. I don't typically wear gloves around spinning machines in general because it would suck if they get grabbed and pull my hands into something. Still good advice though and I'm considering it.
Finally a simple and good bevel jig that’s not confusing, thank you
Agree .. others just want to show not to teach
Best one I’ve seen for efficiency and simplicity many thanks from the UK👍🏻🇬🇧
Brother I'm so glad I came across your channel. As a new knife maker this will save me a lot of money. Thank you!
Heck yeah, looks like a handy jig!
It’s you again!!😂
@@ZyloXDT Guess we watch the same things! lol
@@RedBeardOps Fancy bumping into you here ;^)
..I just made that jig, I see many people asking about the angle to make it. I just took a blank and started grinding it, and then found the angle too much, so I simply ground down the bolt beads under the jig until I was happy with the angle. You can only reduce the angle if you to that. To increase the angle use a thicker bolt head, or just spotweld a spot to the head and then grind it to suit.
It works a treat , thank you!
I think you could make the holes for the bottom part threaded so you could change the angle if you desired. Someone let me know if there is a reason that won't work because i plan to build one also.
As a novice knife maker I've tried bevels by hand and it takes skill. I will make one of these and try it. Thanks for video.
Simple,but effective and best of all inexpensive. Thanks
Erick, this is awesome! I grabbed the parts at work today and I'm making it tonight. As usual, you rock!
That is what I was looking for simple to make easy to use. I have made 3 of these. I have one that cuts bevels for axe heads and 2 for knifes with a bifferent angle. No fancy setup on checking to see if angle is correct because it never changes. Thanks for sharing your knowledge John B aka PopPop
Awesome jig! Thanks for sharing!
I just made mine out of a 2x4 and i adjusted my circular saw to cut the edg of it at a 10 degree angle and just a couple of flat flange wood screwes and it has served me very well, im gonna steel your idea though because im upgrading rigs ive been on the ol harbor freight finally saved up a few grand to get a real belt sander
Looks like the easiest jig so far, thank you so much...
Great jig, going to make one or two.
Easy to handle,,, keep going buddy.
I made something similar to that but I welded 2 nuts on top the angel steel where the adjustment 1/4-20's are, & welded a piece of 1/8" flat bar for blade holder. Basically the same thing though.👍👍
I'm totally new to knife making, so I may be talking out my bush here. I've been researching DIY jigs and this one seems to be the easiest for folks that don't have that many power tools. The only thing that I would add to it would be nylon caps for the bottom bolts or the adhesive glides. That way, if you're using it a lot, it won't produce a groove in your platform over time. That's what I'm planning on doing to the one I build so if you be so kind, let me know if I'm on the right track. Also, I don't weld and some of these other jigs require it. But, I do JB weld! So, for some of you discouraged on the welded jigs, get some JB! Not to be confused with JD. That's good too though. Happy knife making!
Dude, that's a great idea. You will just need to make sure and replace them here and there because the will get sanded down as you slide it back and forth.
@@theriversexperience9383 Just use 2 brass bolts against groovings and scratching
I made a extention plate for my belt sander it's 14" long 6" wide ss polished plate I use it anytime I will have a tool moving on top of the plate. I also use soft aluminum angle and brass bolts to make my jigs. I have cutting/tap oil at the table and I oil the top plate for smooth motion John B aka PopPop
What’s your basic angle on your jig? Awesome job thanks
So how do you assess what angle you need for the different grinds?
It really just depends on the intended use of the knife. With that being said, I don't focus on the angle as much as I do the height of the bevels. Whether it's going to be a Scandi grind, Saber grind, or a full flat grind. This plus the height of the blade from edge to spine are what helps me figure out what "Angle" I would be grinding at.
This is a fantastic project, just built something very similar. Lemme say tho, it won’t save you from goofing up your lines with a piece of steel you didn’t realize was bent 🤫
Thanks mate, I tried grinding by hand, but am not very good at it 😂😂. This is an easy simple design that will help a ton 👍🏼
I LIKE IT !! BUT I think I would of used the Hardware in opposite places. I'm going to go make one now except instead of hex head bolts ground to desired height secured with a nut. I'm going to drill & tap the two holes and go with a low profile rounded head that i could adjust and then lock in place with an elastic stop nut. I think that will give a good lock with the vibration with out possibly stripping the few threads by over tightening.
I'd like to also come up with a better set up to hold blade. I was thinking a hex head bolt would be better because it has a larger even flat surface. I'd also like to incorporate a clamp system right into that portion of the jig and eliminate the need for a bulky additional clamp.
Any ideas or criticism of mine please respond. I'll comment back with how it went and the clamping system I come up with when I'm hands on.
Awesome, thanks man! Appreciate the inspiration
Thank you my friend👍
Excellent video , loved having the measurments to go by will be making one thank you
Servus super Video was hast du da für eine bandsäge mfg Ebner Hermann
nice and simple,great job.
Perfect 👍
Very simple mechanism. Great job!
Can used the same measurements for longer jig
Thanks I really appreciate this, subbed
New subscriber thank you very much for the information
Hey thanks a lot, appreciated it.
Boa tarde vou copiar essa ideia, ganhou mais um escrito.
Hey River…. How are you doing your plunge lines without a file guide? Are you doing one side and then flipping it and eyeballing the other side?
You can mark both sides with a marker to match them. But, most of the time I eyeball them. I've ground about 600 knives at this point and it's just second nature now.
@@theriversexperience9383 Got it! Thank you very much for taking the time to reply! I appreciate ya!
Thank You.
Gracias, muy sencillo
Hola mister. Tienes que perfeccionar el afilador, para regular cualquier ángulo de afilado. Gracias.
Simple and effective
Did you clamp the blade onto the face with the two screws or does it sit on top of the screws? Also, what is the width of the angle iron you used, 2" square, or something, looks good, I want to try that, I've only got a 1"×30" beltgrinder though...
If you're using a 1x30 you will need to get a 1"x1" angle iron and the blade is clamp above the screw heads.
Great video. How do you know the correct angle when shaving down the heads of the bolts?
Almost everything I do is by eye. I have a weird ability to make things very square when go by what I think looks right. So I didn't really go by any particular angle.
@@theriversexperience9383 well that just isnt very practical for the common man lil
You note that you don't need a belt grinder to make this, but of course the tool isn't particularly useful without one! Nice jig, I like the simplicity.
This jig works great with a wheel grinder too. I have clamped down my angel grinder and used this tool to cut bevels. I have glued sandpaper to a board and hand ground bevels in New blades. When I am at the hunting club after hunting we challenge each other that was when I thought up the glued sandpaper to a board. Well 5 minute appoxy
What size angle iron is that
Not related to the jig but what blade are you using on your band saw to cut through metal like that?
It's a 14TPI blade from Lennox.
I made one a couple years ago, that was at about 7° from the work rest and most of my stock is .187 stock. Seems to give me a decent height in my bevel. The only problem I have, is when using a jig, when k get near the tip of my blade, my bevel doesn’t want to stay even and gets noticeably smaller toward the point.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Sometimes that's really just because of the blade profile. On knives with a big curve up towards the tip, you need to rotate the handle side of the knfe back towards you as you grind up to the tip.
@@theriversexperience9383 thank you.
Btw you can bolt your work table underneath your tooling arm on your kmg. I don’t have one, but I figure if it is drilled and tapped all the way through then it should not be that much of a problem.
Yup, I do it both ways depending on what I'm doing. I like the extra height from it being bolted on the top for comfort.
Good job
Thank you!
What is your ideal grinding angle?
Could you tell me what brand you belt grinder is
Thanks.
Thank you!
Great jig. Quick question, how do you know what angle to set it at?
You can use a digital or manual angle finder. They sell them in hardware store.
@@theriversexperience9383 thank you.
oOoOO I just saw your other video making a stop. What would you recommend if I don't have a table for this jig? I have the harbor freight 6x36 and 1x30 belt sanders? I understand these are not preferred but I just randomly wanted to make a knife and this bevel is the only thing stopping me
You can make a larger work rest pretty easily for your 1x30 there are a few videos about it on RUclips.
Thats cool thanks .
May be a silly question but how do you adjust for bigger bevels? Or just keep different jigs?
You can make different jigs. You will only need a few of them, you will be surprised at the amount of knives you make that have the same degree Bevels.
You can make it adjustable - just move the two holes in the base toward the edge and tap them... then you can adjust the angle by turning the bolt - use round heads with a nut/washer to lock the position.
Thank man very handy
What angle does it turn out to be?
Thanks for your time
How many inches from end to end is the actual jig?
This one was 5 inches from end to end.
Is the angle adjustable by turning the screws on thr bottom?
Not on this particular style of jig, I will be making an adjustable bevel jig soon though. I wanted this one to be as simple as you could get so that people just getting into knife making could make it.
What are the sizes of the nuts and bolts for this assembly?
how to make it when knife has a tick handle?
thanx dude!!!
Now you will, over time, scratch and score the sander table because of the 2 bolt heads on your jig.
They need to be a softer material than the work surface.
Couldn't give us any kind of measurements? No size angle iron or bolts?
That he did not lol almost, if the cam was focused and ya hit pause you could read it but its very clear
thanks !!!!!
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how do you like that portable band saw? Ive considered getting one but havent been willing to bite the bullet and buy one. Seems like blades would be $$ and wear out fast?
It is absolutely worth the investment, once you cut out your first few knives you will be thinking "why on earth did I wait this long to get one of these?" The blades aren't expensive and a blade will last for a while.
@@theriversexperience9383 hi thank you for the video. What make is the bandsaw. Thank you
One rear central bolt the other way uo and rounded with a locking nut would ensure it's level and give you any angle adjustment, not just the one. Plus with only one point of contact at the rear it fits smaller tables too.
With one centered bolt it tilts left and right that why all the store bought ones has contact points for both sides.
The beauty of this one is you never have to adjust anything to use it
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Make sense
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hand grenade?
It's a practice grenade from a long time ago.
Things the world doesn't need
Until they do.
Naw, these are things YOU dont need. I on the other hand, am indeed of need of just such a jig.
You should consider wearing some form of gloves 😉 metal shavings suck if you have to pull them out of your hands , just a thoughtful peace of advice
I've Thought about getting Some thicker rubber gloves. I don't typically wear gloves around spinning machines in general because it would suck if they get grabbed and pull my hands into something. Still good advice though and I'm considering it.