Designers talk: OB-X8, and how it came to be.

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Since it was introduced in May 2022, industry acclaim has been heaped upon OB-X8 as one of the most authentic recreations of a vintage synth ever engineered.
    But what thought process is behind the million design decisions involved in a vintage recreation project like this? In this roundtable style discussion, Tom Oberheim (Founder, Oberheim Electronics), Marcus Ryle (OB-X8 Co-Designer, Oberheim Engineer 1980 - 85), Tony Karavidas (Lead Hardware Engineer Sequential/Oberheim) and the late, great Dave Smith (Founder, Sequential and OB-X8 co-designer), talk through trade-offs, design philosophies, and the overall approach that allowed them to produce this amazing instrument.
    0:31 What is the OB-X8?
    3:44 What gave each OB synth its sound?
    6:12 How do you match to a vintage synth?
    8:25 Why are Page 2 features important?
    9:58 How does OB-X8 differ from the originals?
    12:48 What's coming from Oberheim in the future?

Комментарии • 111

  • @nisroch
    @nisroch Год назад +67

    Dave is sorely missed. I said it before but I find it poetic that one of his final acts on this planet was to aid and assist a former professional rival in rebuilding his company and making a new start. The world needs more people like him and Tom.

  • @hlcotten6587
    @hlcotten6587 Год назад +13

    I had an oberheim in the nineties. It was the most organic synthesizer I ever owned. When things turned digital, I sold it later. I have forever regretted that decision. The creator of this instrument, has made a significant contribution to music across the 🌎 world.

  • @AndyVonal
    @AndyVonal Год назад +2

    Makes me want to cry... and clap my hands in pure joy. Amazing people who do/did amazing things. Thank You!

  • @MilesAwayOfficial
    @MilesAwayOfficial Год назад +37

    Thank you to the team for building this masterpiece. RIP Dave Smith

  • @TonyAndersonMusic
    @TonyAndersonMusic Год назад +27

    Thank you to the entire team for building this instrument. We love and appreciate you guys.

  • @GEOSynths
    @GEOSynths Год назад +17

    This is great, thanks for putting this out, absolute Legends...miss you Dave.

  • @SessionsWithMike
    @SessionsWithMike Год назад +22

    What a great video! Dave's passing was such a shock and really heart breaking. Still really can't believe it when a video pops up in the feed. You can tell there was so much he still wanted to tap into. So glad to have witnessed his genius and appreciated his creations.

  • @keytargirl3894
    @keytargirl3894 Год назад +5

    All of Oberheim products are top notched just as Dave Smith's. Thank you Dave for helping Tom, you will be sorely missed by us keyboard players. Thank you for helping us create.

  • @synthartist69
    @synthartist69 Год назад +50

    Breaks my heart that Dave Smith passed away. I wish that Sequential would collaborate with Roland on a faithful reissue of the Jupiter 8. Roland, unfortunately, is probably too arrogant for something like that though. I used to own Chick Corea's OBXA. It still had his stage notes taped to it. I have been lucky to own several actually and an OB8, long before vintage synth prices went through the roof. I will admit, the OBXa was a pain to maintain. Hopefully one day, the OBX8 will be in my future, but it's getting harder and harder to come up with this kind of money for a synthesizer these days. I am so grateful that these great men brought the OBX8 to the market for us. Thank you!

    • @ivanlozano2019
      @ivanlozano2019 Год назад +3

      "we only look to the future" lol the future is looking at least partially analog now.

    • @F0nkyNinja
      @F0nkyNinja Год назад +2

      Korg could maybe do it.

    • @synthartist69
      @synthartist69 Год назад +2

      @@ivanlozano2019 they only look to the future but yet they continue the attempt to copy their vintage sounds..lol

    • @entropybentwhistle
      @entropybentwhistle Год назад +4

      @@synthartist69 Milking the subscription crowd for iffy digital emulations is more lucrative than re-engineering old hardware and only getting to sell it once.

    • @liambate2301
      @liambate2301 Год назад +1

      yeah Roland is terrible now. they don't want to make any more analogs as they want to "innovate" but their going in the wrong direction. everyone wants the analogs back but they refuse to. not only that, but all Rolands sound rubbish. I own a fantom 7 and a td11 drum kit and the sounds are barely useable in a mix and there is so much menu diving. May sell it for a montage in the future. such a shame as it was quite expensive.

  • @entropybentwhistle
    @entropybentwhistle Год назад +10

    Darned glad they went the route on the development of this keyboard that they did. This is the synth I fantasized about, where the architecture of the three (four, as Dave points out) great synths were integrated into a one-stop shop. It is indeed pricey, the route that they took, but you can well imagine the great whinging and gnashing of teeth if they had half-assed it instead. They were damned if they did and damned if they didn’t. Better to be yelled at for being too good than too mediocre.

  • @MickaLuna
    @MickaLuna Год назад +4

    Still hard to accept Dave won’t be here…

  • @SamuelLaflamme
    @SamuelLaflamme Год назад +9

    Pure Gold! Knowing that Dave Smith will die few weeks after... Incredible that his last project would have been this reunion of genius and legends working together! ❤

  • @peterldelong
    @peterldelong Год назад +3

    If you’re in your 60’s, make your doctor schedule a stress test on a treadmill in the hospital. It can save your life.

  • @Phil-1
    @Phil-1 Год назад +5

    Lovely conversation. To hear Dave say 'We're just starting' is really poignant.

  • @Strages_Powers
    @Strages_Powers Год назад +6

    It's so sad when beautiful people pass away from this world. RIP Dave and thank you for all the beautiful instruments you brought into the world.

  • @scottgentile1663
    @scottgentile1663 Год назад +6

    Dave was still so passionate. The downside of his passing is he still had so much life left but the upside is he was sharp right up until the end doing what he loved. He was a leader and visionary his entire adult life.

  • @JimAlfredson
    @JimAlfredson Год назад +3

    Rest in Peace, Dave Smith. Thank you for everything.

  • @lovesteersthestars
    @lovesteersthestars Год назад +6

    Proud owner of OB-X8, thank you Dave, Tom, Marcus and Tony.

  • @retrosound72
    @retrosound72 Год назад +4

    I love my old OB-X and OBXa. I have both since many years. The imperfection is a kind of beauty. And the synth history. ✨

  • @TeddyBaas
    @TeddyBaas 9 месяцев назад +2

    RIP Dave. We love you.

  • @fjfrancois
    @fjfrancois Год назад +3

    Beautiful video, thank you guys.

  • @johnmeroney2007
    @johnmeroney2007 Год назад +3

    I would invest in a spiritual successor/remake of the Xpander.

  • @JayKaufman
    @JayKaufman Год назад +3

    It's beautiful that they were able to capture Dave Smith in on this talking about the last thing he ever worked on (as far as I'm aware). He's sorrily missed in the synth community.

  • @UniQueWerkx
    @UniQueWerkx Год назад +3

    So what will it be? Oberential or Seqenhiem? LOL On the one hand I can't wait to see what they've got coming out next! And on the other it's still hard to watch after Dave's passing.

  • @JimDaneker
    @JimDaneker Год назад +5

    Fantastic. What a room full of legends. So grateful to own one of these legendary instruments, and support the team who brought it back!

  • @Steril707
    @Steril707 Год назад +2

    R.I.P. Dave.
    Loved your passion for your work.

  • @shookmusic
    @shookmusic Год назад +2

  • @Sam9wilson9
    @Sam9wilson9 Год назад +2

    This is the prob the best we’re going to ever get from the old team OB retro analog wise; very thankful for the opportunity. So saddened with Dave’s passing, so happy he was at top of his game at departure❤

  • @kvmoore1
    @kvmoore1 Год назад +2

    This is a moment in history that will never come again. I would like to buy an OB-X8 one day not only because I would like to own a Oberheim synth (and one of the best, let alone "new"), but also because this is also a synth that represents one of Dave's last collaborative projects (or maybe it actually was the last) with Tom Oberheim. They worked together along with the rest of the Sequential team to build a masterpiece!!!
    THANK YOU!!! for all of your passion, hard work, and dedicatication to make this instrument possible.
    RIP, Dave Smith.

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 Год назад +3

    0:01 Just the sound of this instrument at the start is a miracle.❤

  • @Wagoo
    @Wagoo Год назад +3

    Wonderful to see Dave talk one last time. I'm sure he will remain with Sequential and Oberheim's future in spirit.. and long may this great collaboration continue

  • @vaportrails7943
    @vaportrails7943 Год назад +2

    Dave is greatly missed, and I hope Sequential and Oberheim are able to continue well in his honor. I hope Marcus will stay involved, because it’s hard to imagine anyone more qualified.

  • @the_fifth_wheel
    @the_fifth_wheel Год назад +2

    It’s great listening too these Gentlemen talking, a real treat. I recently purchased a nearly new Pro 3 that the Sound and Soul of Dave Smith will live on in all the noise I make. Thank you for posting

  • @RayyMusik
    @RayyMusik Год назад +2

    13:00 Matrix-12? Just dreaming …

  • @Sam9wilson9
    @Sam9wilson9 Год назад +2

    While I’m so sad for Dave and his family, seeing him enthusiastic and having fun up to the end truly is priceless. May we all experience the same ❤

  • @saifeek
    @saifeek Год назад +5

    Gutted that Dave isn’t around anymore but so glad that he gave us this masterpiece as a parting gift 💝

  • @strangeskys
    @strangeskys Год назад +4

    Great characters, sadly one no longer with us, and wonderful insight. So now to the future.

  • @user-ql1pc7pi9x
    @user-ql1pc7pi9x Год назад +1

    I'd love to buy this synth. Too bad it's 9,000 + dollars in my currency (NZD).
    R.I.P Dave Smith

  • @aardvarkmindshank
    @aardvarkmindshank Год назад +2

    Wow, what a truly wonderful discussion and result. This is like watching Greek Gods sat around and discussing the world. Truly awesome impact on the music industry.

    • @therealniksongs
      @therealniksongs 6 месяцев назад

      Great analogy! It was like a peek into Synth Olympus!

  • @davidreynolds6718
    @davidreynolds6718 Год назад +1

    To my ear, this instrument sounds lovely and musical. A slight cut above the other high end synths for the most part.

  • @SPAZZOID100
    @SPAZZOID100 Год назад +2

    So bittersweet.....Still cannot believe Dave is no longer with us. The OBX8 is a masterpiece, and I will have one in my studio soon enough.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac Год назад +1

    I only met Dave Smith once in 2018 at SuperBooth in Berlin. Really nice and approachable guy. He did so much for the world of music. I am sure he had a good fulfilling life.

  • @DavidComdico
    @DavidComdico 9 месяцев назад +1

    A work of art as well as craftsmanship.

  • @amulpatel
    @amulpatel 11 месяцев назад +1

    80s legends! Grateful GenX forever

  • @MotorHolmes
    @MotorHolmes Год назад +1

    What a lovely video with absolute pioneers of the industry showing the passion they’ve had for decades to bring us superb instruments.

  • @PiloMusicVegas
    @PiloMusicVegas Год назад +1

    The Mount Rushmore of Analogue !!

  • @merlinoner
    @merlinoner 11 месяцев назад +1

    Those men are part of music history.

  • @maximovvladimir
    @maximovvladimir Год назад +1

    Absolute admiration for these legends

  • @chrollo7102
    @chrollo7102 Год назад +1

    I’m not crying, you’re crying.

  • @gauthiercanart7690
    @gauthiercanart7690 Год назад +1

    Waw... we're just starting.... Thank you Dave!

  • @hamsterdunce
    @hamsterdunce Год назад +8

    I'm excited to see what happens next for Oberheim. Revisiting where you left off with the OB-X8 is like a recap of previous episodes of your favorite TV show. Now that the team is back and ready for more, we'll finally see an amazing evolution.

    • @irife2771
      @irife2771 Год назад

      I too am eager to see what they come up with!
      Small world off topic thing: I watched your Devil went down to Jupiter video the other day for the first time in over 10 years, still RIPS!

  • @AdamBorseti
    @AdamBorseti Год назад +1

    I just ordered mine this morning!

  • @klstay
    @klstay Год назад +1

    This was great to see, thanks! I continue to feel a few more dedicated knobs could have made it onto the panel without impacting the aesthetic or ergonomics getting things closer to the interface/workflow perfection of the P5/P10. ( For me the P10 is as close to "essentials only analog poly" perfection as it gets though it is a somewhat different animal) A second pair of outs at this price is the other thing which I think is the other TINY drawback. It is wonderful this synth exists.

  • @peterkeys88
    @peterkeys88 Год назад +2

    simply wonderful, glad this roundtable was captured

  • @bendrrmusic
    @bendrrmusic Год назад +2

    This is so great. Thank you for these videos, and to the Oberheim team for making this dream synth come true (even if I can never afford it lol). RIP Dave

  • @marcoantoniospaventi6699
    @marcoantoniospaventi6699 Год назад +1

    Maximum respect for these beautiful people.
    RIP Dave Smith, what a legend!!

  • @pheotus
    @pheotus Год назад +1

    Amazing piece of kit wish I could afford it 😢

  • @station2station544
    @station2station544 Год назад +1

    Awesome watch. I feel like I'm watching a ghost. So enjoyable to see this.

  • @영영무
    @영영무 Год назад +1

    excellent video

  • @enriquebuckner7767
    @enriquebuckner7767 Год назад +1

    Really cool to see. RIP Dave.

  • @scottmcauleysounds
    @scottmcauleysounds 3 месяца назад

    I could just sit in a room and chat with these guys for days! absolute legends. RIP Dave Smith an irreplaceable loss to so many all over the globe, but living on each time every musician plays even a single note on any of the amazing Sequential creations.

  • @ajlazarusofficial
    @ajlazarusofficial Год назад +1

    RIP Dave 🙏🏻

  • @muco007
    @muco007 Год назад +1

    This, is great!

  • @solomonjenkins9505
    @solomonjenkins9505 Год назад +1

    RIP Dave Smith

  • @sweetdiscretestudio8326
    @sweetdiscretestudio8326 Год назад +1

    Legends unite, no wonder the result is sublime - Thank you ❤

  • @derekliljequist1086
    @derekliljequist1086 Год назад +1

    Very unfortunate with Dave's passing. I'm glad he was able to see the completion of OB-X8 though. I'm very happy with mine and you can tell a lot of passion was poured into it. It's probably the only Synth I own that I'll never sell. I'm looking forward to seeing what the Oberheim crew comes up with next.

  • @davewilk7165
    @davewilk7165 4 месяца назад

    These guys are synth gods....I designed synths back in the 80's using Curtis and SSMT MSI/LSI chips and have so much praise for both companies as they set the standard for turning silicon into music

  • @Black_Agent_Seattle
    @Black_Agent_Seattle Год назад +1

    This was fantastic. I know it's not the most popular of Oberheims, but i think a modern Matrix-6 would be pretty cool!!

    • @twiff3rino28
      @twiff3rino28 Год назад

      Prophet 08 is pretty much the same thing.

  • @arturocarranza6020
    @arturocarranza6020 Год назад +1

    Great documentary and I love the sound of the OB-X8! Maybe in the future, will release a new Matrix synth and Oberheim's new digital sample-based subtractive synth. Good job, team!

  • @VEsound
    @VEsound Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @markaprill6501
    @markaprill6501 6 месяцев назад

    I have always wanted one these but can only afford one. I can’t decide…which keyboard prophet or Oberheim. It is so cool they are making these things again.

  • @galaxiesmerge_original
    @galaxiesmerge_original Год назад

    Thank goodness you guys made the OB-X8 *module*. I wanted to buy the OBX8 but have no space left. When the module version came out I got it! It is not as if I *need* another analog synth, it is that I *want* this specific synth and I also have two OB6 modules. If you ever rebuild a Matrix-24 … oops, I mean a Matrix-12 rebuild, count me in. Cheers!

  • @Oberheim.OB-XA
    @Oberheim.OB-XA Месяц назад

    Oberheim todo meu carinho respeito criador do maior Sintetizador de todos os tempos um grande abraço , Sou Wagner Gomes sempre divulgarei a marca na América do sul Brasil sou Rio de Janeiro meus sentimentos ao Dave Smith Sequential P , com maior carinho Gratidão mesmo não tendo um , para mim é um sonho ter um Oberheim . breve vou postar vídeos de todos os proprietários de Oberheim no mundo meu canal mostrando a sua criatividade experiência em ter um Oberheim peço permissão . tenho também email OBX OB-X8 um grande abraço .

  • @kevinbatchelor9566
    @kevinbatchelor9566 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much to everyone who poured themselves into making this a reality.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac Год назад

    I am willing to sell most of my stuff for an OB-X8, because OB-8&X were always was my dream synths, but for 5600€ you could have added some additional knobs to the panel. This Menu diving "page two" stuff is annoying.

  • @universalvibe72
    @universalvibe72 Год назад +1

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 Год назад

    So, what are the oscillators in the OB-X8 … ?! Are they proprietary chips, or do they employ ‘off-the-shelf’ components?

  • @mrfunkyfunkybeat
    @mrfunkyfunkybeat Год назад +1

    What a wonderful conversation. It's like being in the room with the legends themselves

  • @eventualinfinity3862
    @eventualinfinity3862 Год назад +1

    What a legendary panel. Very exciting to hear you're working on new instruments as well as building on the past. Thank you for all you've done and continue to do for the music community!

  • @vaportrails7943
    @vaportrails7943 Год назад

    Please make an SE version with blue stripes. A growing number of people are begging for it.

  • @moduley340
    @moduley340 Год назад

    日本語字幕をありがとうございます。本当にDaveの急逝は残念なことです。
    X8のDesktop versionの発売を期待しています。大きくても構いません。Xpanderも大きかった。

  • @smokey5100
    @smokey5100 Год назад +1

    Thanks to everyone for coming together to create this modern day classic... Rest in Peace Dave

  • @CarlArmstrong
    @CarlArmstrong Год назад +1

    Such a nice piece.

  • @ytb917
    @ytb917 Год назад

    12:51
    matrix 12?
    keep the 12 outputs!

  • @scottfrost317
    @scottfrost317 Год назад +1

    Will we see a rack mount version of the X8??

    • @therealniksongs
      @therealniksongs 6 месяцев назад

      I believe there is now a module although not a "rack mount" per se.

  • @smartti1970
    @smartti1970 Год назад +1

    SEM is my favourite ...

  • @thaexception3406
    @thaexception3406 6 месяцев назад

    Man!

  • @TheMilford
    @TheMilford Год назад

    As soon as our pedals start shipping here at Tronographic again, I plan to order one of these. I own and love my OB-8, with my DSX and my DMX and DX drum machines... I always loved the workflow of the DSX and MMT-8 sequencers (designed by Marcus) and would love to see a modern DSX that can interface with both my vintage OBs as well as modern synths... And obviously, I think we would all love a modern DMX that has the same beloved crunchy low-bit-rate samples, simple filtering, simple interface and tactile feel as well as expanding on these things like the X8 does... with things like programable tuning, filter and sample settings that were only accessible by turning trim pots, or modifying the jumpers and components on the voice cards... It's always refreshing to get away from using the computer or tablet to make music and revisiting these hardware-based instruments really excites me.

  • @jwtubification
    @jwtubification Год назад

    Love my OB-X8 and I’m ready for that DMX!

  • @suga4all
    @suga4all Год назад +1

    RIP Dave. What a legend! I saw him 2 weeks before his passing at the SuperBooth in Berlin. It feels so unreal.

  • @_alexxon
    @_alexxon Год назад

    Dreaming about one day I could have one...

  • @markus6409
    @markus6409 Год назад

    Knobed xpander!

  • @MarcasLancaster
    @MarcasLancaster Год назад +1

    Standing by for the module. Thank you for doing this. RIP Dave Smith.

  • @SynthgodXXX
    @SynthgodXXX Год назад +5

    Awesome historic conversation! Thank you for sharing this!