Two ROCK Fans REACT to War of Hormone by BTS
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- Two ROCK Fans REACT to War of Hormones by BTS
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I'm a 63 year old ARMY, and this song has never offended me in any way. It's a great song! If you stand in front of me and tell me that you've never had thoughts like these as a hormonal teen or a young adult, I will not believe you. If only people could see past their noses and actually look at the meaning of a song. Side Note: I wasn't ARMY when this came out, but I'd bet that all the flack came from some of the non-USA music markets, cuz here in the US, this would be considered very mild.
Very true
Hello my fellow 63 year old army!This was the 1st song I heard from BTS back in 2014!
Me too
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@@jamesskelton2988 Lucky you to have discovered them back then! My first song/video was ON (the Come Prima Manifesto video) and I was hooked!!!
War of hormone is one of my favorite BTS songs and as a woman I find the mentality of some people so stupid to think that the lyrics are misogynistic, in fact every time I listen to it I feel flattered since the compliments towards women are very good . At that time the hatred towards BTS was very evident and every time they released something they would invent something stupid, for this reason people say that envy is not good, it kills the soul and poisons it. Anyway, I really like your reactions, very good, thank you very much, you entertain my days.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching 😊💜😊💜
i don’t care what they say but this song is one of my fave back then and im still listening to this song til now 😊💜
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I'm an old woman (66) and found nothing that could offend a woman. The critics were pure hate or fear on their success!
Here in the Western musical industry the "artists" should be learn with BTS how to treat a woman 😊
There is a song they did as feminine empowerment that's called "21st century giirl"... I think you'll like it!
As always, thanks for your conversation/reaction!! ❤
Absolutely❤️🙏
I took the whole thing as very to sarcastic and silly version of how teen boys feel overwhelmed by girls and hormones. It’s a great song.
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My all time favourite song! Everybody's very sensitive, you are absolutely right
By all accounts, because of the backlash from this song, is why BTS started to change their approach to songwriting & brought about what we have to this day.! 😎😉💜💜
Personally loved this song from first time hearing it.
Ps, I'm single mum with 30yr old son. This song couldn't be any more respectful & honest if you tried.💜💜🇦🇺
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I’m women and never had problem with this song. I think it’s cute and one of funniest MV. They always look for something to attack them. It’s not their fault that some of girls/women’s has issues with that. They were young boys when this song came out what do you think all boy’s thinking in this age, yes girls. Still can’t see what’s wrong with that. 💜
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I love this vid too, but the dance rehearsal video for it is even funnier. There's a halloween dance practice for it, but the non-halloween one is better, imo.
@@Cheynayful Absolutely love all Halloween dances they done, will never forget when poor Taehyung lost and had to be Snow White😂😂😂
I am older as well, 67, and this is one of my favorite BTS songs. I tend to chalk everything up to cultural differences when I don't understand the problems some have with BTS's music. The other companies in this business certainly tried everything they could to slander BTS, so that's a valid point. I think the song is adorable, and seeing the young men in their teens is really cute.
Very well said. Couldn’t agree more
ahhh, one of my favorites. They talk straight about what boys go through... every boy can identify, no one has said it better. I don't think it is bad, if a girl sang about her hormones it would be okay... i guess. Tae makes me laugh through out this whole video, the jumping at the market is cute and his faces!!!
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One of my favorites!
I hope you checkout the real war version of war of hormone dance practice it's hilarious
This song received so much backlash from conservatives in Korea for treating women like objects OMG it's ridiculous. It's insane in our western standards because it's only a funny song, written by a teenage RM for teenagers at the time, about what teenagers feel in real life.... 🙄🙄🙄
I know it’s ridiculous.
@@DANDJREACTplease check dance practice also it’s even more fun
@@konathalayamunaThe real war version one is hilarious.
@@DANDJREACTthe dance practice is so hilarious you should react to that one too
@@adalianow30 ok 👍
First bts song that i liked on Spotify 😭
Lmao the sarcasm all through out the reaction is just amazing. Lol
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I am a woman in her late 50’s who is a feminist and I have never been able to figure out why people think this song is misogynistic. I think it is either a cultural think, people not understanding the actual definition of misogyny, or people just trying to stir up BS.
I 100% agree with you.
These guys are so respectful, very much love this song because I'm a teenager girl and get happy butterflies from this song!! The lyrics make me smile.
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
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I love this song❤
The BTS Halloween version of this song is hilarious! 😂
I’ll look into it
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9:26 you hit the nail on the head right there 🔨 🎯 I believe that 💯
Same 💙
V is soo cool wow. Always different levels ❤
You are correct sir💜
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The line
Women are like an equation we do them
Was supposed to be "WOMEN ARE LIKE AN EQUATION WE SOLVE THEM" - pertaining to the maybe the problem men or say guys go through when they pursue a girl or a woman they really like
Thank you 😊
💜🇧🇷💜I just compliments from starting to finish. Love that song 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Same 💜💜💜💜
I am a woman and I love this song, it's on my playlist and I am at a loss as to why this song is offensive. Good reaction. See you soon.😊
Thanks for watching 😊
I think you guys are amazing for loving rock and heavy metal which I also love..... To loving BTS which I also do! It's the hard work, discipline, balance, endurance and gratitude that is most amazing that everyone has to acknowledge! Thanks so much for your honest souls, what could ever be so beautiful, so worth living, so real Love ❤💜
God bless you 🙏❤️💜
Disney level 🤣🤣
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Subscribed for this. I have always loved this song and video.
Thanks for subscribing we appreciate your support 😊💜😊💜
I love the fact this is 2 men explaining why or why not a woman should be offended. Side note I love this song.
Love this song to 😊
Ils étaient trop mignons avec cette chanson 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Agreed 💜
52 year old woman who did not clutch my pearls when I first heard this song. I would be thrilled with being called a gift and how pretty I look in the front and back. I’m so mad that the boys had to go through being raked over the coals. Especially RM who got the brunt of it.
Yes it’s very unfortunate
Gracias por la reacción 💜
Absolutely 💜
It feels more like if the background is in motion and they are not. Even if the JK and Jimin look like they are rolling, they could be rolling forward at that speed.
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BTS will make you emotional boys!😘 You been hurt...... Oh who hasn't been hurt😮 yeah, don't forget your own innocence, wtf ever that even means bro 😂!
Lmao 😂
Thank you, and I hope you listen and watch the songs Fine and Magic Shop by them! So amazing and I tell you the truth those songs really helped me understand myself and even love others more
But yeah your a hard headed fuck love type, me too I'm just like that and of I didn't find anything that would destroy myself I would literally have to find myself to balance me
Lmfao 😭 if you could ever understand cause wtf ever
@@heatherleanni_am_that_i_am2052 agreed
I love this song and video 💜💜🇲🇽💜💜
I think the hate was mostly from fans of other popular groups at the time. They felt threatened that BTS would gain popularity, so they used any excuse to make BTS look bad.
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Hey guys....thanks for your reactions. I love these guys. And the high honest young energy of this song.
I've been through the women's movement as a scientist at NASA in the early 80's where it was so very difficult at the time re:women in a male dominated field. The only line I 'flinch' at is 'girls are equations, guy's just do them'....but from my understanding of past posts by army, perhaps that is a mistranslation. I could see if they were talking about 'trying to figure out women.' If they are talking about something more explicit...well...that feels demeaning. That being said, I'm with you. I cannot watch current day US/Western artists in how demeaning songs have become overall for everyone. And I totally do not understand Jungkook in his current choices with lewd western rappers in his recent songs esp 3D/Jack Harlows part and even Seven Latto's Part. Sigh. I certainly hope BTS does not continue in that direction. This is what has set BTS apart in a big way over the years...their values. I hope they don't get tainted by the industry. Perhaps Army can shed more light on this. Thanks again. Have an awesome day!
Thanks for your reply and hopefully they don’t lose their morals.
I completely agree with your opinion regarding Jungkook. I've been very disappointed in him and have been purposely avoiding his recent songs, videos, and performances. I try to support all seven of the members, but he's making it impossible to do so.
@@sugasiced-coffee9408 thanks for sharing this
I actually enjoyed his songs, their styles are all so different and seems like their doing whatever they want with all these different music styles, performances, etc... my favorite is the rapline solos....
@@JesusOurLordandSavior 😊👍😊👍
The only part that could be taken offence to is the “women are an equation and we do them”, but like u said, that could have been a translation issue. Other than that, the whole song was super respectful. They’re literally saying women are the best and a gift. Boggles my mind how ppl say that’s misogynistic especially compared to western songs. Have you even heard the words that come out of western artists mouths? Even female artists! 🤯
But to your point, it’s probably just the haters trying to bring BTS down. BUT karma is an Army, and it was disclosed today that under the new contract BTS just renewed with Bighit, they now have individual voting rights in the company! That’s huge! This means they are recognized as actual partners of the company (not just some boy band) and now they will have a say in the company’s business decisions and direction. And that’s 7 votes! Not 1! 🥳🥳🥳
Haters are always trying to bring BTS down
Jimin posted a new dance challenge on his Instagram. It is very beautiful and artistic, I can only say wow😭😭😭
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@@DANDJREACT please watch it. His contemporary dance is so amazing
I think In 2014, there was no problem at that time, but since 2015, feminism has grown in Korea and it has become controversial but it's also true that most of haters were other fandom
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people who want to see things in a negative light always will. the statement "women are the best gift" can be received as an insult if you want to see it as an insult, but that's on you. as a lesbian, i do agree though; women are the best gift
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68 yr old Army here and I never understood the controversy. It’s just talking about natural things that young men go through. It’s truthful and I actually love it.
Guys, if you haven’t reacted to Jung Kook’s title track off of his first album, you are REALLY MISSING OUT! It’s his very best IMO and there are several outstanding live performances: iHeart (with live band, no backup dancers), Audacy Radio (he sings 4 or 5 songs from his album), Jimmy Fallon, M Countdown. A lot of people will suggest his impromptu live at Time Square. It is lots of fun and really good, but his live vocals are the best in the other ones I suggested. He is also having a live concert Monday (maybe Sunday depending on where you live-I haven’t done the time conversion yet). He is broadcasting it live and free for Army. I would suggest watching the mv and then one or more of the live performances.
Awesome thanks for the suggestions
downside of kpop is fans treat them like babies, they're grown men for gods sake not 5 year olds
So true
All I know about the people criticizing the song is that they have not experienced a real teenage life 😂 and wt that time they just wanted to point out something that will be considered as anti psychological aspects. They dont realize how a song without having any explicit lyrics will approach the public with positive vibes. The public were very slow witted and short sighted about what BTS wanted to say and the public misunderstood it and began to criticize while talking shit wbout BTS. The title itself says War of Harmones which in my opinion means the hormones in one's body battling with its emotions seeking the real feelings that a boy experience when he is interested in a girl without any bad intention. It is a matter of common sense that at teenage, every boy and girl experience some changes in hormones which inturn changes the personality in various aspects and it is a natural phenomenon.
Yea I agree. 🤣
2020년에 bts팬이 되어, 이 노래를 뒤늦게 듣게 되었는데..노래나 뮤직비디오가 너무 좋았다. 그당시에 이 노래가 여성혐오 관련 이슈가 있었다고 들었는데..도무지 이해할수가 없음. 서양에 비해 보수적인 한국이지만, 여성혐오, 여성상품화하는 노래와 뮤직비디오가 얼마나 많은데 왜 이 노래에 시비를 거는건지? 10대 남자아이들의 생각이 담긴 노래라서 귀엽기만 하구만.
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if people only open up about taboo topics totalk to youth about all that adults think children should not be exposed too the youth will grow to be respectful individuals that dont soil others reputations in arrogance or oblivion. Its so imp to know about what puberty brings and how do you not let it effect your actions and mannerism. I HAVE HUGE RESPECTfor this song cos even though im 20 i didntreally have any exposure to what male puberty entails for my male aquaintances around me. this song really made me reallise that puberty for men and women is diff and even though the song is not mysoginistic it draws aline so i know that anything along these lines is infatuation and attraction but anything more extreme is not normal.
i hv a younger brother and since he is sixteen i feel like exposure to such open upfront songs of BTS is really helpful to someone of the same age group or maybe age range these guys were in during this song ......objectifying women and men is so common in some countries and so not common in others that people forget the middle ground. That there stillis a way to think men are handsome or a women is beautiful without it disrespecting the other and without any sexual innuedos. knowing for a fact that love is not just attraction but attraction does help you approach the person and get to know them.
sorry for the rant
No don’t be sorry. We value your opinion and appreaciate you writing all this
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I am a woman and the context of this song is a mockery or criticism of men who use hormones as an excuse to harass women. The song would be like the perspective of some men towards us. I love them 💜✨😊
Interesting 💜
Technically, I suppose the lyrics to "objectify" women a bit (referring to them as a gift and so on), and the first time I heard it I did a small double take on the bit about women being equations and men "doing them" - because it was a bit "crude" compared to the later BTS lyrics I had gotten used to.
But I also realized that my 40-something mind from a very outspoken background probably had me read a LOT more into these lyrics than the boys meant to put there.
I have a feeling RM was referring to "solving the mystery that is woman" rather than - you know - "doing" them. 😆
Either way, the lyrics are STILL incredibly tasteful and sweet compared to so many Western artists speaking about women that I - as a 47-year-old feminist - find nothing worth quibbling about in this fun little bop.
I giggle every time JK - who was 16 in Western age when they released the song (although he had turned 17 when they released the MV) - says he's a man of 18 who "knows all that stuff". 🤭
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Soy abuela EJÉRCITO 💜 , no existe nada malo en ella , no habla de nada que no sea verdad en esa etapa de los jóvenes .
De ninguna forma ofende !
V owns this song!
I became a fan of BTS after seeing the very adorable Kim Taehyung performed in this video. All these boys have grown into amazing men today. Yes, they do have respect for women and men. Most, if not all of them, have never been linked to or dated anyone. All these guys/men are old enough to date. I hope the Korean media will be kind to them when they find love. These men should be free to love and be loved.
Agree 100%
Same as Army, when they find that special person, we should not meddle but congratulate them on a new journey, these saesangs are probably going to go berserk...
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My take on it is that is is mainly cultural and traditional, wherein such things are not said openly.
No offense meant.
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I'll make a correction. I hear women and men in the West, also almost always older, say there's nothing wrong here. The fact is they are from Korea. And Idols are for teenagers. This song actually HAS offensive lyrics. And, it was offensive by standards of Korean culture. Korean parents said they won't let their kids listen to them. This was not a popular album in Korea. RM and BigHit took this seriously. IT LITERALLY plays a major reason they changed their image and returned with "I Need You Girl" which is the first hit that skyrocketed their career. BTS may never have been BTS if this song was not criticized (and the album in general did poorly.) They changed their style and made sure to write songs actually more empowering. And you can see how different everything they did after has been. It was the Korean fans' reaction that affected them. Not the industry. And that's the audience that matters most for them.
Thank you for your response
@@DANDJREACT You're welcome! I love some Kpop and Kdramas, but I do know people living there and sometimes I think we all forget that outside Seoul, the country is still pretty underdeveloped. They have a great entertainment industry, but it's not necessarily reflecting reality of life. Idk if you've ever been! Have a nice week!
@@SknezE never been before
Perhaps BTS were too sexy for their time and was too much to handle or it may not have been accustomed with the K-pop PG-12 music and not a Hip Hop/K-pop group stating real fact.
I am searching for excuses here.🤣 But it is a well composed original song that's very lively. Love it. I'm a woman.
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There is nothing wrong with this song. It's an honest innocent song. When I was younger it was normal to give a compliment and we women appreciate it. We also knew when it was a compliment or something else. You knew intuitive when you had to be on guard. The head turning is the best compliment you could get. Nowadays everything is bad. It's like they can't read a person(s) anymore and their intuition is totally ruined. But to be fair and it's my opnion, they just want to nag because it's fun to nag and to put others down and cause trouble.
The song is an honest story what tells you how young boys/men can have a innocent war or hormones because they became, in this case, aware of the opposite sex and their attraction . The naggers forget young girls/women experience the same thing, the same war of hormones.
Luckely we had it easy in the early days. I pity the ones who has nothing else to do then to hold on to every thing. They totally forget to enjoy life. Good song, good lyrics and loved the music video.
Agree with everything you just said
Maybe the drama queen haters were picking on "woman is equation ..man needs to solve it."
Could be
@@DANDJREACTi think they said man need to do them .. that line was the issue here.. and as u said the big three wanted them to be shutdown so the journalists wrote a-lot of articles to shake them
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Yea this in my opinion is a nursery rhyme compared to what we see and hear today….and I don’t think you can call it being overly sensitive so much as it’s people being batshit crazy these days…I believe they were trying to stop the boys from succeeding and THIS was the worst they could find🙄
I agree. It didn’t work though 🤣
@@DANDJREACT No it didn’t 🤣🤣
I think something to point out is the translations make the song sound worse then what the lyrics really are. (Although the lyrics aren’t bad at all) One of the lines they translated “I just want to do them”, however while do is one way to translate it, it isn’t very accurate when putting the context of what they are talking about and the meaning of the word that they used in Korean. The word they used for “do” in Korean has a mathematical meaning to it so it is more suppose to be about how they are try to figure girls out because they are confusing. Anyway this is just something I think it important to note…(sorry I am not the best at explaining)…
The song is so good and not offensive and all. Just haters hating and bad translations too.
Agree 100%
V 😅🔥🔥🔥🔥
Jungkook and Taehyung so adorable 💜 😍
I think it just for Korean people (no hard feeling😅)
I dont really get why K people mad about this song. Whats wrong with the lyrics? BTS just do some compliment towards girl in their eyes. Girls showing their tummy, half chest, wearing short n heels all the time in there but they mad when BTS saying that to them? Lol 😂😂😂
I think this song is the best compliment ever made for a WOMEN. PERIOD!
I agree with you. People overreacting
And the girls are an equation that needs to be solved.....like... aren't we😂 My hubby is still trying to figure mine out....and so am I😅 But by western standards this is Disney.
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If my daughter said she was offended by this song, I’d tell her to wake up to herself and to stop being so precious. This song is a blast. Fun and full of life and happiness. How dare they have fun?
So true
The math translation is really poor. It’s more along the lines of women are like a difficult equation you must work hard to understand what they are thinking and what they want. Also look at boy with love which they wrote to depict a more mature understanding of loving someone . I am 69 and have been a feminist for 59 years. There is nothing wrong with theses lyrics. They are an accurate representation of how young men feel at that age. I also asked my daughter if she would be upset if someone compared her beauty to the deep blue sea. Guess what her answer was. Ps. I think Jin was coasting on the bike so he wouldn’t get too close to the camera.
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I'm a female physician and I don't find this remotely offensive (and I tend to be pretty PC.) The only potentially vulgar thing is at 3:56 of your video (or 1:32 of the actual BTS clip) where V jumps off to the right and looks like he's possibly squeezing invisible boobs 🤣, but even that's a reach.
As far as Jin's bike being dragged, pretty sure it isn't. Look at the spokes of the wheel--you can see the tire is spinning. It's a video glitch, where if the speed of rotation of the tire lines up with the frame rate of the camera, it makes it look static. It's the same phenomenon that can make car tires look like they're spinning backwards in video or in movies.
Got it thanks for sharing
You don't need an anticompetitive music industry when you have overly invested fandoms to spew vile innuendo and aspirations. Social media attacks in music or otherwise involve people getting excitement by piling on to manufacture hate filled destructive actions. Legitimacy is not overly important. Given the demographic composition of 2015 Korean Idol music fans, words like misogyny easily could and did snowball. So yes corporate practices were crappy but I do not think this slander campaign got its momentum in a corporate boardroom. Hard to say somethings but this one is silently screaming underneath what most people would be comfortable admitting.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I'm nearly 40yo.
As much I tried, I couldn't find anything misogynistic about that song.
I think some people see things which are not there, but feel that they have to cling to something to create something negative. Sorry, English is my third language 😢
Agree 100%
The anti BTS tried so hard to condemn what ever BTS produce during their earlier debut.
Ut it didn’t work
Let’s say the only one that had a problem about this is haters prejudice against BTS. Their culture is more strict and full of hypocrite government and rules.
So true
They are just being so dramatic because bts is crawling their fame on their own pace and the right timing that the big 3 cannot figure out how they can do it without 💸💸💸 involve. So they try their best to destroy bts. And since bts is not part of the big 3 media cannot get any profit from them.
Well said
Still bitter that we don't get to see performances of this song all because of the ridiculous amount of backlash it got. This would have gone so hard during concerts with the sort of on-stage energy it would have but now it's basically treated like a blacklisted track. It's such a waste.
They shouldn’t have retreated when things got hot. They should have stood their ground.
The 'protests' against this song are a nothing-burger...antis being hypocrites as usual: they physically objectify the men in their favorite groups, but God forbid if some other group writes a hit song about teen boys finding women attractive 🤷♀️
There is absolutely nothing controversial or offensive about this dope song. Actually, the most offensive to me is the fact that Jin wasn't really riding his bike 🤣🤣🤣 This is typical of the nonsensical hate BTS used to receive (and still do) for manufactured reasons. The narrative was to shut down BH and BTS because they were a threat.
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What do you mean not really riding his bike? Is he being pulled? Are there photos or videos? I have seen once instance where he is really riding & controlling his bike.
@@robwebnoid5763 thanks for the clarification
@@robwebnoid5763 I wasn’t sure if he was actually riding it. I think he was
@@DANDJREACT ... Yup, I made another reply in another thread about the same thing. It's the wagon-wheel effect.
The song isn’t offensive, wasn’t offensive. What was and is offensive was the hatred and karenism jealousy for the groups success. K-pop and it’s fandoms are toxic. ARMY actually detests K-pop lol. It was a concerted effort by K-pop labels to be shady. That they couldn’t silence BTS, now they are trying to ride their coattails. BTS “represents” K-pop. The hell they do. K-pop wants to cash in.
So true
I agree kpop in general is toxic. Now days army are getting on.my nerves,criticising the boys work
i think a better word to use would be ‘objectifying’ definitely not ‘misogynistic’ like people say. as much as i disagree, i think people were more upset about the comments on women’s bodies and it just tumbled out of control
You said it perfectly. Objectifying is the word I was looking for
I don’t think the lyrics were insulting woman but they are really cringey to look back on compared to the meaningful songs they have made since then.
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Hmm... it might have something to do with their history. (K-ARMY, please correct me if I'm wrong). This is just my opinion (based on those period themed K-dramas I've watched), and I for one, dislike it, and gets disgusted whenever they portrayed women being gifted to men with high positions.
So, maybe that's where they were coming from. Like I said...MAYBE. I could be wrong though. But if that's where they were coming from. I totally understand why.
With regards to this song, I don't find anything wrong with the lyrics though. Just saying.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Dont think as AMERICAN .
THINK as KOREAN CULTURE .
USE once , equation these things are not acceptable
Hmmm ok
서양은 여성을 존중하는줄 알았는데 그건아닌것같네요 당신들이 더 이해가 안갑니다
Ok 👍
The west respects women? We have an Only Fans society in America. Thats what the West pushes is degeneracy
I'm confused, would you care to elaborate. Is it what every real teenage boy feels like growing up that you don't like. Or the misogynistic part. If so could you please explain were they are misogynistic because that word means to hate women
@@kaz_72 it makes no sense how this is Misogynistic
@@DANDJREACTI know right. I'm a 51 year young lady, I have 2 daughters and 1 granddaughter. We all absolutely love this song and cannot figure out for the life of us how this is saying they hate women.