I am female (late 40s) I do work as on ethics (among other topics) and work hard on promoting women and minorities and love this song. It’s one of the least offensive things and can be seen as a tongue in cheek laughing at themselves for being girl focused and hormonal. The video and whole vibe is one of my favorites and I’m so dang pushed they stopped performing it because of the controversy because this is beyond a bop. But despite that they set a higher bar foe themselves and again they get knocked down and get up stronger. Still stream WOH for clear skin folks! Justice for WOH. V is so damn funny the whole video, he’s such a damn good ball which also sets a tone for not taking it serious but it being tongue in cheek funny song. Also them being all tough in their bicycles. 😂😂😂
The moment they say "I'm 18 I know all about it" (or even different translations/interpretations of what is what he knows) you need to realize the "narrator" is unreliable. I believe they do have some other early content which is a bit more questionable but WOH shouldn't be a target
I am a mother and grandmother of twin granddaughters I love this song. I have even used it as a discussion of their transition from young girls to adults about their War of Hormones. BTS gave a honest review of the changes they were experiencing. As was mentioned in previous comments this song is nothing compared to what called music nowadays. Enjoyed your reaction to it 💜
Same! The song doesn't bother me at all but one scene in the video makes me uncomfortable to watch just because I know none of them are actually that physically aggressive with women
This is such a good song that really depicts how young men battle against their hormone changes. Girls have their own crazy hormones. I don't care what people say... they always write about what they are going through and this is what every boy-to-man goes through and thinks. It's funny too. V is hilarious in this video...
A lot of the so-called controversy was churned up by BTS haters/antis. Fake pearl clutching when other kpop male groups were making music in the same vein. Being an old woman who has lived with real sexual harassment & lots of misogyny, to me this is simply a song about teen age boys being honest about what’s going on in their heads. Yoongi’s rap lines are sweet. Hobi’s verses are suggestively cute as hell.
Maybe growing up with all the explicit music I hear in the US all the time has desensitized me because I don't find this song offensive at all. And it's a shame BTS don't perform it anymore because of the backlash against it. As a woman, I love this song.
I'm a 65 yo woman and I simply love this song! I think that they are just expressing the feeling of teenagers, using their language to express their admiration for women, nothing out of normal. Maybe a bad translation caused all the misconception and of course, haters. Here in the Western there are too many songs really misogynistic and disrespectful that I would really love seeing them being banned...
I dont think the backslash came from international fans but from koreans, so there is no translation problems but just culturel.. and it was years ago. I guess a lot changed there nowadays too 💜
Rather than banning, I wish people were educated to see the popular songs for the displays of misogyny they are. That they just slide under the radar is so frustrating!
The song that led me down the rabbit hole😂 because I fell in love with V’s gritty voice! It didn’t even occur to me it was remotely disrespectful to women( heard worst in the Western music community). It was catchy and funny.
Hi John ! I think that they were (at that time) just 'talking about what young boys talk about ! How they suddenly begin to see girls when you reach your teens.... For me it was them saying that they are noticing girls more, but were too shy to go up to them and talk.The line 'I'm gonna give it to you girl right now' was actually a call/response line to ' Hello Hello , tell me what you want right now'... that could mean literally anything... flowers, chocolates, attention...whatever the girl wanted they could have as long as they were theirs... they were hormonal teenagers.. completely normal.
One of my favorite songs by them and I am devastated that the boys got so much hate for this. They loved this song in the beginning, you can tell because there are actually three dance practices, (you missed the "Real War" version which is hysterical) which I don't think they have for any other song. They had so much fun with it before it was ruined for them. I don't think we will ever see them perform this song again just because there was so much controversy and I think it left a scar on them mentally. 😢 They recorded the MV and outside dance practice at Yangpyeong English Village, its an education theme park to help people immerse themselves into an English speaking culture. The architecture is based on Virginia USA I believe. The really popular K-drama "Boys Over Flowers" was partially filmed at this location too. The War of Hormone Halloween dance practice is credited as the first Halloween dance practice and starting the trend of doing so in K-pop. 💜
Also...just wanted to add that I freaking love when you react to all aspects of the track...like lyric/MV/Dance prac/ Live... it's just brilliant ! Thank you John !
I, as a woman..never found this offensive. I of course can’t speak for every female and their personal experience..but mostly I think some people WANTED to be offended. Wanted to start drama. And they succeeded of course, but as per usual it backfired on them. It just made BTS and RM specifically, even better men and song writers. I love this song personally, and I adore the m/v~ 💜
This song is my ring tone. “Hello , hello. Tell me what you want right now.” Seriously though, the controversy surrounding this song is so blown out of proportion. I’m a huge feminist, and I just see this as teen boys speaking truthfully about their own experience. At least from my Western perspective, I don’t think this is anything to be too offended about.
This is a great song on boys growing up while laughing at themselves. I’m 60+ woman and a hardcore feminist, so I say it: there isn’t an iota of misogynism in this song. What I believe is that at the time, and continues less aggressively today, there was an abundance of orchestrated campaigns to stop BTS from success in the K music industry: to compete with the big three was indeed a great challenge. Kudos to them, their company, and armys of the time; without their perseverance we would have had the unthinkable today: no BTS
One thing I realise after watching the song and lyrics ,antis just want to bring BTS down they just want to make an issue about it Im a woman and I am not offended and for me I agree that I am like Mathematics that need to be solved I am a complicated woman 😊😂
It's the craziest thing... if you compare this song to almost any song on the radio these days it's so tame. But S. Korea is really conservative. I love how they handled it all but I still love this song and the video and dance practice are great!
Yes! Just look at what songs the more popular groups were putting out during bts’ early years and even the years leading up to them (2nd gen - early 3rd gen)…but guess which group got aaaallllll the outcry? Uh huh. There has been a concentrated effort against bts from the start that got worse and worse as their popular grew, because bts didn’t “stay in their place” 🙄 Its honestly maddening if you think about it too long… 😮💨🤨
I absolutely love this song, MV and performance. We may not see it as misogynistic from our modern western perspective but I can definitely see it from theirs. Its what the British would call "cheeky".
It wasn't an issue in Korea, though. It was western, non-native speakers who started all the drama. I see a lot of people say that maybe it's from the Korean culture's standards, but that's just not the case at all.
@@borapobangpo Which makes the whole thing more ridiculous. Anyone who has had to listen to the crap some "artists" have put out in the West should find this song ridiculously silly. After being exposed to American rap, in particular, I can't imagine how this song is misogynistic. But it's the same for women in the western market who are called horrible names for singing about sex when their male counterparts practically endorse sexual violence. Acceptable for me but not for thee...
only problem is there are kinda too old to perform this where they are in life.... 30 yr olds talking about their hormones doesn't really hit the same!
@@sucomp there not to old just they are adults now and matured into men and BTS aren’t allowed to perform this. Even though it along time ago they don’t want to sing this song it’s a old song from when they was younger.
Love this song! I’m older Army mom & have experienced my share of misogyny this ain’t it. Immature at times possibly - they were young. Maybe shouldn’t have picked any of them in the end - and said call me in 5 years😁. Namjoon sought out assistance from a women’s studies professor after the back lash I believe. I honestly think he would have broadened his mind in this way no matter because of the thoughtfulness of his mind.
I think if it would’ve been anyone else singing this song no one would’ve batted an eyelid, but because it was BTS they made it into a drama. Haters gonna hate… I love this song there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Oh come on. How do the girls look at the guys at their school. The jocks and the good looking guy? They are feeling the hormones too. They want to date them. They want them as their boyfriend. Do they seek out nerdy boys or the chubby kid. No! Its human nature to be attracted to beauty. How many conversations took place in the girls bathroom or at lunch about what happened on their date with the school's jock? True they mentioned "unspeakable parts" but girls never talked about the six-pack abs and the men's unspeakable parts? It's a song about boy's bodies changing and noticing girls. In Junior high and high school, they are not going to be singing songs about wanting to get married and being with the girl forever. They are going to sing about the girl they noticed. Wanting to ask her for a date or wanting her to be his girlfriend. I think it was just like all the rest of the stuff going on at the time. BTS was gaining momentum and the anti-fans were just trying to dig up dirt. And how did BTS handle it, they publicly apologized, RM consulted with a professor of women's studies about his music to become a more understanding artist. He started reading psychology book and BTS ended up creating a masterpiece that is "Map of the Soul 7".
People were claiming back then that BTS were objectifying women in this song but the title itself speaks about battling with raging hormones which is a very natural thing. Young boys go through that stage when they get attracted to girls physically and most of the times sexually. It's something so natural which they need to take control of and that's why it's called War Of Hormones. And they were talking about it as young boys. There are more actual misogynistic songs out there but then they only look at bts to drag and ignore when their own faves do it.
I think this was like the 5th or 6th song my daughter played for me, I loved it 3 1/2 years ago and I love it now. And yes, V certainly did steal the show on this one. But then I am V biased 😁. Seriously though, I love how he sounded early on but love his sound even more now with hints of growl. But is expressions are just chef's kiss! Thanks for the reaction!!
Ppl took offense of the line Girls are like equations boys have to do them. In Korean they actually say Girls are like puzzles, boys have to solve them. Compared to the misogynistic rap/hip hop songs and MVs we have been seeing for the past 20 years, this is nothing. It is a representation of what young boys go through in puberty. I love that song!
I am a female in my 50s and I’ve experienced my share of misogyny and I can emphatically say that this song is not. Love this song and as always the boys created something based on their thoughts and feelings at that time. And they are freaking complimenting females. The whole controversy was created by haters. I love all the comments here….love all the wonderful people who are supporting and standing up for this song. If the boys ever were to perform this we would all go nuts!
Mulherese que orgulho de vocês, sabemos muito bem o que nos ofende, com certeza essa música não passa nem perto. 👏👏👏👏. Uma mulher de 40 anos aqui falando sim sou Army.
I'm a 62 years old female. I don't find this song misogynistic at all. The song just reflects what young men go through in that stage of their life. I truly enjoy the song and the MV.
I love the song. As an older female my thought is this song represents youth as they become aware of the opposite sex. Both males as well as females (even if they won't admit it) have this reaction when hormones arrive.
I am a 50yo married woman and I love this song - I have 2 teenage daughters and they love it!!!! The controversy was all haters trying to make a big deal about nothing. I am sorry BTS does not perform this anymore!!💜
I love the song. It's not insulting, it's actually a compliment to women. There's nothing wrong with them being guys who like girls. Thanks for the positive feedback 💜
It was people taking a couple of lines out of context. Yes, they are talking about women as an object, but it is in the context of teenage male hormones and how society allows them to express it. Like many others I suspect that it was Anti's who raised the stink about it while pretending to be ARMY as this was when BTS was really starting to get some traction. The song is an absolute bop and it's one of my all time fav song. I'm so sad they don't perform this live anymore since they were attacked. That Halloween dance practice is epic with them all keeping in character, especially Tae! In other stupid attacks some have also attacked this dance practice because of Hobi's prisoner costume claiming it's related to WW2. A basic google disproves that but they still often use it in claims BTS members are problematic.
I agree, War of "Hormone" did not deserve the "horrible moan" of criticism. But South Korea was & still is conservative when it came to this type of subject matter & that was why the uproar came about. I do hope they perform this again.
This song makes me laugh because they were so young and honest. Contrast this with a few years later Boy With Luv where they moved on from “I like the way you look” to “tell me everything about yourself.” Both are parts of general life experience for both men and women - says this definitely feminist mom of a teenage boy and girl.
I love this song so much. Have no idea why people Flipped out (I think it was a fan war thing, other groups starting crap). It's just how teenage guys think.
I love this song. The "Real War version" dance practice is what actually hooked me. I highly suggest you react to it! Also I don't find it misogynistic at all. I feel that it is what is going through teen/young adult male minds and bodies and they are just cheekily bringing attention to it.
I'm 42, i'm a mom to a daughter teenage daughter n a teacher.. i think lyrics speaks of how a teenage boy feels when they hit puberty. It's normal. Personally not offended by it.
Hello, teen boys are going to fight a War of Hormones and have "lust" before love!!! At the time, this is what i think the issue was, but really - what teen boy is going to have the depth of true love!!!! Besides, the lyrics show how much the boys admire women! The controversy behind this song is so unwarranted!!! It's cute, yet edgy!!!! I loved RM's platinum hair - he was the cutest!!!!!
I'm a woman and i Love this song so much ! It's one of my favourite 💜 They were such cute boys, singing about what's going on in teenagers head, all of us had war of hormone once upon time 😅
Taehyung’s KILL IT IN THIS hshshsh his voice and attitude. There was an idol that said that he want to become an idol after watching Taehyung here. They don't sing it live now 😢
I am a female, who does enjoy this song and DO NOT find it offensive. I believe this was offensive mostly in Korea and drama stirred up by other fandoms, at the time. There are plenty of other artists with really offensive material played on the radio and blaring from vehicles on the street, which people allow/enjoy?! So sad that BTS and mostly RM had to deal with this mess. 💜💪🎼
It was mostly BTS haters who were complaining and trying to bring the group down. There were a few females who felt offended bc of Korean societal standards, however, mostly it was fans of other Kpop groups instigating something.
John I'm a 57 yr old Army and I don't find this song offensive or even misogynistic at all.. Now, I can think of other artists who are way more offensive💜 I guess haters gotta hate💜💜💜💜 I'm with you on the look, it's kind of that grunge look
I love this song. Raised two sons. I understand perfectly what they're singing about. Not misogynistic at all. I think you're my favorite BTS reactor, John.
I’m a 33yro female, been ARMY since 2015 and this is my top 5 fav BTS song list, I am not offended as they wrote this when they were young adult men, I am around the same age as them so I would of been a young adult female, cancel culture & haters are getting out of hand and they need to learn a sense of humour or they are going to struggle their whole lives. Loved your reaction as always John Borahae 💜💜💜💜💜
As you can see from the comments, John, War Of Hormone is almost universally loved. With people not understanding what the fuss was about. As others have said 'Justice for War Of Hormone '.💜
I am almost 70 years young. This is a great song. I have followed BTS since 2016. Their haters made a big issue out of this song. Still ƁTS made changes by consulting òn future music. Nobody compares and I am a Beatles baby.
Like so many other women have put on here, I'm early 40s and its one of my favourite songs for their younger era, I feel they are expressing being young hormonal boys, celebrating females and I love this song so much and the video is amazing!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I'm a woman and I love this song. It's great at showing the emotions of teenagers. From a female perspective, I was a little boy crazy when I was a teen so I don't really get the hate they got over this. I think it's something most people go through as a teenager, so yeah..... I think a lot of people blew this way out of proportion. Edit: At one point in the song they sing about woman being the best gift, I actually think it's adorable sweet
I'm a 65 yo grandmother and absolutely love this song. There is nothing misogynistic about it. It's all about boys growing up. The video is so perfect. There is a lot more music(?) out there that should be banned. 💜💜💜💜💜
You should watch the Bangtan bomb war of hormone dance practice that isn’t the Halloween one. It’s so funny. They change the dance up and have fun haha 😂
They not only dance, they interpret the song, disguised they get into their role, and without disguising, they get into the lyrics, they transmit very well, they are unique and respectful, very good!!!!!💜
LMAO listening to your exit. " I'm freaking loving this stuff, toodles." 🤣🤣🤣 You have officially been BTSed! Love it! I've gone from hello to have a blessed day. It's amazing how many people do a double take and now say thank you, you too. Kindness goes a long way. " I Love you man!" (a throw back).
As a woman I also don't think that song is offensive or misogynistic. I was surprise to hear about those controversy. There are many other songs, which are much more provocative than that. It's just a normal song about teenagers and I really like it. Also the music video is much fun and great.
I LOVE War Of Hormone. There is nothing wrong with it. Nothing offensive or derogatory. Heck, they even call women a national treasure.💜👍 In my opinion, the only way to be offended by War Of Hormone,is if you are trying to be offended by it. It's a great, bouncy, fun song about teenage boys, surging hormones, and recognizing that girls are different, and that they feel different around them. It's an honest look at a fact of life, explored in a light-hearted way.💜👌 As a 54 year old woman, I've seen a lot of songs filled with misogyny (and misandry), and this is definitely NOT one of them. It honestly deserves a lot of respect and love 💜👍
I love this song, truly. I'm a 54 year old ARMY and the song is catchy and I don't think misogynistic in the least. It does talk about what boys go through in school and doesn't put down girls at all. They shouldn't have to apologize for this song. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
It's the context that this was released....at the time other Kpop fans were always on the look out to drag them down especially if it looked like a potential hit...this was a tough era for them....they responded well though which shows so much more about them than the haters.... personally I get their point. Yes if you took it literally it has sexist overtones but they intended it as the title suggests. And I'm a string,independent female Army!!
Compared to a number of songs on the US radio that are sprinkled with 4-letter words, and may well describe getting it on, I agree with you that this song is fun, catchy, and no problem. Heavens, the Valentino fashion show Suga attended today (1-25-23) in Paris had women’s bare chests on view! I was a bit shocked, I have to say.😂 One thing I thought the first time watching the WoH music video was: There’s no ‘war’ with their hormones in the song, instead it seemed to me a kind of glorifying of youthful hormones!😊
I am a British female ARMY of 62yrs & I love this song, its a bop, I have no issue with the subject matter, I don't know who it was that accused them of objectifying women & being misogynistic but for me its of its time & is just boys talking about being boys at war with their hormones, its such a shame that they were made to feel bad about it & even apologize for it, our loss they don't do it any more imo.
even if I'm just breathing, I bet someone will find fault with me. Been an army for 6 years and War of Hormone is one of my ten favourite songs from BTS. I'm 38yo female
I feel exactly like you for me this song is so good and there are nothing in the lyrics that offended me at all. It's not at all what I thought it would be. I adore that song 🎵
- First off... John, you *have* to watch the Real War version of their dance practice as well, even if off air. It's freakin hilarious! 😂: ruclips.net/video/70SMjxn4FBA/видео.html - Second, as a (western) woman I have absolutely no problem with this song. I think it's really obvious that it's an ironic look into the mind of a hormonal teenage boy, with pimples and all. 😆 Even the mv and choreography reeks of fun and irony. For me it's a clear-cut case of haters gonna hate. 🤷♀️ - No, because of all the controversy they never perform this song anymore which is such a shame because it's a total banger! 💜
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I am female (late 40s) I do work as on ethics (among other topics) and work hard on promoting women and minorities and love this song. It’s one of the least offensive things and can be seen as a tongue in cheek laughing at themselves for being girl focused and hormonal. The video and whole vibe is one of my favorites and I’m so dang pushed they stopped performing it because of the controversy because this is beyond a bop. But despite that they set a higher bar foe themselves and again they get knocked down and get up stronger. Still stream WOH for clear skin folks! Justice for WOH. V is so damn funny the whole video, he’s such a damn good ball which also sets a tone for not taking it serious but it being tongue in cheek funny song. Also them being all tough in their bicycles. 😂😂😂
Same, I would love to see this live. It is such a hype song.
@@vmkoya4080 BTS was banned performing this song 10 years ago because of all hate they got for it.
The moment they say "I'm 18 I know all about it" (or even different translations/interpretations of what is what he knows) you need to realize the "narrator" is unreliable. I believe they do have some other early content which is a bit more questionable but WOH shouldn't be a target
I’m 46 and of the female variety and I absolutely love this song and the mv. It’s just a fun track and it’s a bop. What’s not to love?! ✌️💜
Exactly they r making fun of themselves!
I am a mother and grandmother of twin granddaughters I love this song. I have even used it as a discussion of their transition from young girls to adults about their War of Hormones. BTS gave a honest review of the changes they were experiencing. As was mentioned in previous comments this song is nothing compared to what called music nowadays. Enjoyed your reaction to it 💜
I'm female and I do not find this song offensive or misogynistic. In fact I truly enjoy the song and music video.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
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Same! The song doesn't bother me at all but one scene in the video makes me uncomfortable to watch just because I know none of them are actually that physically aggressive with women
This is such a good song that really depicts how young men battle against their hormone changes. Girls have their own crazy hormones. I don't care what people say... they always write about what they are going through and this is what every boy-to-man goes through and thinks. It's funny too. V is hilarious in this video...
A lot of the so-called controversy was churned up by BTS haters/antis. Fake pearl clutching when other kpop male groups were making music in the same vein. Being an old woman who has lived with real sexual harassment & lots of misogyny, to me this is simply a song about teen age boys being honest about what’s going on in their heads. Yoongi’s rap lines are sweet. Hobi’s verses are suggestively cute as hell.
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Yep! It's coming from haters who just looking for anything to shame them for.
Maybe growing up with all the explicit music I hear in the US all the time has desensitized me because I don't find this song offensive at all. And it's a shame BTS don't perform it anymore because of the backlash against it. As a woman, I love this song.
IKR Like there are so many other songs that are so r*pey that it makes me feel so uncomfortable even though it's an absolute bop.
@@asdf-gh8vd I agree
I'm a 65 yo woman and I simply love this song! I think that they are just expressing the feeling of teenagers, using their language to express their admiration for women, nothing out of normal. Maybe a bad translation caused all the misconception and of course, haters. Here in the Western there are too many songs really misogynistic and disrespectful that I would really love seeing them being banned...
I dont think the backslash came from international fans but from koreans, so there is no translation problems but just culturel.. and it was years ago. I guess a lot changed there nowadays too 💜
I think it was both translation problems and Korean fans but for culture reasons…but mostly haters
Rather than banning, I wish people were educated to see the popular songs for the displays of misogyny they are. That they just slide under the radar is so frustrating!
I agree on that, many of them should be... However not this song. It's a bad call on both sides😮😢
The song that led me down the rabbit hole😂 because I fell in love with V’s gritty voice! It didn’t even occur to me it was remotely disrespectful to women( heard worst in the Western music community). It was catchy and funny.
Hi John ! I think that they were (at that time) just 'talking
about what young boys talk about ! How they suddenly begin to see girls when you reach your teens.... For me it was them saying that they are noticing girls more, but were too shy to go up to them and talk.The line 'I'm gonna give it to you girl right now' was actually a call/response line to ' Hello Hello , tell me what you want right now'... that could mean literally anything... flowers, chocolates, attention...whatever the girl wanted they could have as long as they were theirs... they were hormonal teenagers.. completely normal.
One of my favorite songs by them and I am devastated that the boys got so much hate for this. They loved this song in the beginning, you can tell because there are actually three dance practices, (you missed the "Real War" version which is hysterical) which I don't think they have for any other song. They had so much fun with it before it was ruined for them. I don't think we will ever see them perform this song again just because there was so much controversy and I think it left a scar on them mentally. 😢
They recorded the MV and outside dance practice at Yangpyeong English Village, its an education theme park to help people immerse themselves into an English speaking culture. The architecture is based on Virginia USA I believe. The really popular K-drama "Boys Over Flowers" was partially filmed at this location too.
The War of Hormone Halloween dance practice is credited as the first Halloween dance practice and starting the trend of doing so in K-pop. 💜
Also...just wanted to add that I freaking love when you react to all aspects of the track...like lyric/MV/Dance prac/ Live... it's just brilliant ! Thank you John !
Yes, agree! Very appreciated, it really shows that you are truly interested in their songs and performances, and we all LOVE THAT!
You should definitely check out the real war version of this dance practice. It is legendary
Yeah, this is my favorite dance practice
Yes it is great have watched that over and over many times
Yes it is
I, as a woman..never found this offensive. I of course can’t speak for every female and their personal experience..but mostly I think some people WANTED to be offended. Wanted to start drama. And they succeeded of course, but as per usual it backfired on them. It just made BTS and RM specifically, even better men and song writers. I love this song personally, and I adore the m/v~ 💜
I agree. This controversy was ridiculous BUT it kept them from writing stereotypical love songs in the future.
This song is my ring tone. “Hello , hello. Tell me what you want right now.” Seriously though, the controversy surrounding this song is so blown out of proportion. I’m a huge feminist, and I just see this as teen boys speaking truthfully about their own experience. At least from my Western perspective, I don’t think this is anything to be too offended about.
I want that ring tone! Did you make it or buy it?
Oh gosh kow I want this ring tone too lol
@@sucomp I made it.
It's my ringtone too!!
And my alarm tone is JK's high note in Ma City intro.
I found my WOH ringtone people! 🎉😁
This is a great song on boys growing up while laughing at themselves. I’m 60+ woman and a hardcore feminist, so I say it: there isn’t an iota of misogynism in this song. What I believe is that at the time, and continues less aggressively today, there was an abundance of orchestrated campaigns to stop BTS from success in the K music industry: to compete with the big three was indeed a great challenge. Kudos to them, their company, and armys of the time; without their perseverance we would have had the unthinkable today: no BTS
Its not offensive at all
And yes V own this one (I’m bias i know) haha
One thing I realise after watching the song and lyrics ,antis just want to bring BTS down they just want to make an issue about it Im a woman and I am not offended and for me I agree that I am like Mathematics that need to be solved I am a complicated woman 😊😂
I love this song and the mv for it. I feel like Kim Taehyung crushed it I think he is so underused in there later songs. Loved your reaction
This was the first video I saw of BTS....and I fell instantly in love. I wouldn't have a BTS tattoo if they were so offensive😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
It's the craziest thing... if you compare this song to almost any song on the radio these days it's so tame. But S. Korea is really conservative. I love how they handled it all but I still love this song and the video and dance practice are great!
Even for South Korea this is pretty tame and this felt more like being targeted for any reason because they were getting popular.
Yes! Just look at what songs the more popular groups were putting out during bts’ early years and even the years leading up to them (2nd gen - early 3rd gen)…but guess which group got aaaallllll the outcry? Uh huh.
There has been a concentrated effort against bts from the start that got worse and worse as their popular grew, because bts didn’t “stay in their place” 🙄 Its honestly maddening if you think about it too long… 😮💨🤨
@@Oracle2020 Completely agree. Still makes me mad and it was years ago and they are now KINGS! But still.... !! 😠
I absolutely love this song, MV and performance. We may not see it as misogynistic from our modern western perspective but I can definitely see it from theirs. Its what the British would call "cheeky".
It wasn't an issue in Korea, though. It was western, non-native speakers who started all the drama. I see a lot of people say that maybe it's from the Korean culture's standards, but that's just not the case at all.
@@borapobangpo Which makes the whole thing more ridiculous. Anyone who has had to listen to the crap some "artists" have put out in the West should find this song ridiculously silly. After being exposed to American rap, in particular, I can't imagine how this song is misogynistic. But it's the same for women in the western market who are called horrible names for singing about sex when their male counterparts practically endorse sexual violence. Acceptable for me but not for thee...
I absolutely adore this song as I do with all of BTS songs
This song shouldn't be banned from live performances
only problem is there are kinda too old to perform this where they are in life.... 30 yr olds talking about their hormones doesn't really hit the same!
@@sucomp I agree!!!
Unless they do a part 2 😏
@@ElxCapitxnfanpage BTS will never do that
@@sucomp there not to old just they are adults now and matured into men and BTS aren’t allowed to perform this. Even though it along time ago they don’t want to sing this song it’s a old song from when they was younger.
Love this song! I’m older Army mom & have experienced my share of misogyny this ain’t it. Immature at times possibly - they were young. Maybe shouldn’t have picked any of them in the end - and said call me in 5 years😁. Namjoon sought out assistance from a women’s studies professor after the back lash I believe. I honestly think he would have broadened his mind in this way no matter because of the thoughtfulness of his mind.
I think if it would’ve been anyone else singing this song no one would’ve batted an eyelid, but because it was BTS they made it into a drama. Haters gonna hate… I love this song there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it.
That’s the prettiest Joker I’ve seen in my entire 49 year old life 😂. In fact, Taehyung is the prettiest man I’ve ever seen period.
Oh come on. How do the girls look at the guys at their school. The jocks and the good looking guy? They are feeling the hormones too. They want to date them. They want them as their boyfriend. Do they seek out nerdy boys or the chubby kid. No! Its human nature to be attracted to beauty. How many conversations took place in the girls bathroom or at lunch about what happened on their date with the school's jock? True they mentioned "unspeakable parts" but girls never talked about the six-pack abs and the men's unspeakable parts? It's a song about boy's bodies changing and noticing girls. In Junior high and high school, they are not going to be singing songs about wanting to get married and being with the girl forever. They are going to sing about the girl they noticed. Wanting to ask her for a date or wanting her to be his girlfriend.
I think it was just like all the rest of the stuff going on at the time. BTS was gaining momentum and the anti-fans were just trying to dig up dirt. And how did BTS handle it, they publicly apologized, RM consulted with a professor of women's studies about his music to become a more understanding artist. He started reading psychology book and BTS ended up creating a masterpiece that is "Map of the Soul 7".
People were claiming back then that BTS were objectifying women in this song but the title itself speaks about battling with raging hormones which is a very natural thing. Young boys go through that stage when they get attracted to girls physically and most of the times sexually. It's something so natural which they need to take control of and that's why it's called War Of Hormones. And they were talking about it as young boys. There are more actual misogynistic songs out there but then they only look at bts to drag and ignore when their own faves do it.
I think this was like the 5th or 6th song my daughter played for me, I loved it 3 1/2 years ago and I love it now. And yes, V certainly did steal the show on this one. But then I am V biased 😁. Seriously though, I love how he sounded early on but love his sound even more now with hints of growl. But is expressions are just chef's kiss! Thanks for the reaction!!
9:43 & performance (🙅🏻♀️T m countdown)version.
“song 🙅🏻♀️T misogynistic” S A M E
Ppl took offense of the line Girls are like equations boys have to do them. In Korean they actually say Girls are like puzzles, boys have to solve them. Compared to the misogynistic rap/hip hop songs and MVs we have been seeing for the past 20 years, this is nothing. It is a representation of what young boys go through in puberty. I love that song!
I am a female in my 50s and I’ve experienced my share of misogyny and I can emphatically say that this song is not. Love this song and as always the boys created something based on their thoughts and feelings at that time. And they are freaking complimenting females. The whole controversy was created by haters.
I love all the comments here….love all the wonderful people who are supporting and standing up for this song. If the boys ever were to perform this we would all go nuts!
Mulherese que orgulho de vocês, sabemos muito bem o que nos ofende, com certeza essa música não passa nem perto. 👏👏👏👏. Uma mulher de 40 anos aqui falando sim sou Army.
Soy mujer y no siento para nada q este tema sea misógino,al contrario a mi me encanta 💜💜💜💜💜
I'm a grown woman, and I love this song. I can't understand the problem with it at all.. 😁👍
I'm a 62 years old female. I don't find this song misogynistic at all. The song just reflects what young men go through in that stage of their life. I truly enjoy the song and the MV.
I love this song and I'm a 58 yr old woman. ARMY should tell them to perform it again.😍
I love the song. As an older female my thought is this song represents youth as they become aware of the opposite sex. Both males as well as females (even if they won't admit it) have this reaction when hormones arrive.
I'm grown ass woman and absolutely LUV War of Hormones.....so good even today 👌🔥🙆♀️
I am a 50yo married woman and I love this song - I have 2 teenage daughters and they love it!!!! The controversy was all haters trying to make a big deal about nothing. I am sorry BTS does not perform this anymore!!💜
I love this song!, I’m female, and I adore the music, their performance in their video, everything for me it’s perfect.
Обожаю эту песню!😅
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One of my favorite songs love it very much no disrespectful to girls at all. They just telling the truth about it all so cute but hot at same time
One of my faves from their old discography...such a bop!
I love the song. It's not insulting, it's actually a compliment to women. There's nothing wrong with them being guys who like girls. Thanks for the positive feedback 💜
War of hormone dance practice real war version is one of the best dance practice ever by BTS watch that if you find time one day it's hilarious 😂
V always steals the show.. 💜
THE STAGE KING for a reason ! 🤷🏻♀️
Biased much 😅
Maybe. 😝
It was people taking a couple of lines out of context. Yes, they are talking about women as an object, but it is in the context of teenage male hormones and how society allows them to express it. Like many others I suspect that it was Anti's who raised the stink about it while pretending to be ARMY as this was when BTS was really starting to get some traction.
The song is an absolute bop and it's one of my all time fav song. I'm so sad they don't perform this live anymore since they were attacked.
That Halloween dance practice is epic with them all keeping in character, especially Tae! In other stupid attacks some have also attacked this dance practice because of Hobi's prisoner costume claiming it's related to WW2. A basic google disproves that but they still often use it in claims BTS members are problematic.
It is also when people started to really pay attention to V and when his lollipop trend mark started
I agree, War of "Hormone" did not deserve the "horrible moan" of criticism. But South Korea was & still is conservative when it came to this type of subject matter & that was why the uproar came about. I do hope they perform this again.
V is so cheeky! 😂🤩🤩 He's born for the stage. All 7 great 👏🏻💜
This song makes me laugh because they were so young and honest. Contrast this with a few years later Boy With Luv where they moved on from “I like the way you look” to “tell me everything about yourself.” Both are parts of general life experience for both men and women - says this definitely feminist mom of a teenage boy and girl.
I love this song so much. Have no idea why people Flipped out (I think it was a fan war thing, other groups starting crap). It's just how teenage guys think.
Claro que no existe nada malo en ésta canción ! 💜
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I love this song. The "Real War version" dance practice is what actually hooked me. I highly suggest you react to it! Also I don't find it misogynistic at all. I feel that it is what is going through teen/young adult male minds and bodies and they are just cheekily bringing attention to it.
The controversy was ridiculous. This is a fun song told through the eyes of a teenaged boy. It's perfect.
I'm 42, i'm a mom to a daughter teenage daughter n a teacher.. i think lyrics speaks of how a teenage boy feels when they hit puberty. It's normal. Personally not offended by it.
Hello, teen boys are going to fight a War of Hormones and have "lust" before love!!! At the time, this is what i think the issue was, but really - what teen boy is going to have the depth of true love!!!! Besides, the lyrics show how much the boys admire women! The controversy behind this song is so unwarranted!!! It's cute, yet edgy!!!! I loved RM's platinum hair - he was the cutest!!!!!
I'm a woman and i Love this song so much ! It's one of my favourite 💜 They were such cute boys, singing about what's going on in teenagers head, all of us had war of hormone once upon time 😅
I love this song. I think someone is over thinking the words and seeing something that's not there
Taehyung’s KILL IT IN THIS hshshsh his voice and attitude. There was an idol that said that he want to become an idol after watching Taehyung here.
They don't sing it live now 😢
9:53 - I agree! His grit is really different here, and we don't hear it much now. It's more husky.
I am a female, who does enjoy this song and DO NOT find it offensive. I believe this was offensive mostly in Korea and drama stirred up by other fandoms, at the time. There are plenty of other artists with really offensive material played on the radio and blaring from vehicles on the street, which people allow/enjoy?! So sad that BTS and mostly RM had to deal with this mess. 💜💪🎼
It was mostly BTS haters who were complaining and trying to bring the group down. There were a few females who felt offended bc of Korean societal standards, however, mostly it was fans of other Kpop groups instigating something.
John I'm a 57 yr old Army and I don't find this song offensive or even misogynistic at all.. Now, I can think of other artists who are way more offensive💜 I guess haters gotta hate💜💜💜💜 I'm with you on the look, it's kind of that grunge look
The Real War version of the dance practice is really chaotic and was actually waiting for you to look at it. You will really crack up
One of my favourite songs from BTS
Aw no! I’m kinda crushed that you didn’t get to the Real War if Hormone dance practice!! It is absolutely legendary & hilarious!!
Check out some of their old songs too like
HOLD ME TIGHT
2! 3!
LET ME KNOW
LOVE IS NOT OVER
HEARTBEAT
LOVE MAZE
AND A LOT MORE. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I totally agree with you. Considering what's been in American music, there is nothing wrong with this song! I love it. 💜
Some of those ultra feminist women are offended because of " women are gift"... So in their mind gift is always an object.
I'm an older woman, and there is nothing in this song that I would consider to be misogynistic. I absolutely LOVE this song! Love!!!
I love this song. Raised two sons. I understand perfectly what they're singing about. Not misogynistic at all. I think you're my favorite BTS reactor, John.
I’m a 33yro female, been ARMY since 2015 and this is my top 5 fav BTS song list, I am not offended as they wrote this when they were young adult men, I am around the same age as them so I would of been a young adult female, cancel culture & haters are getting out of hand and they need to learn a sense of humour or they are going to struggle their whole lives.
Loved your reaction as always John Borahae 💜💜💜💜💜
As you can see from the comments, John, War Of Hormone is almost universally loved. With people not understanding what the fuss was about. As others have said 'Justice for War Of Hormone '.💜
I am almost 70 years young. This is a great song. I have followed BTS since 2016. Their haters made a big issue out of this song. Still ƁTS made changes by consulting òn future music. Nobody compares and I am a Beatles baby.
Like so many other women have put on here, I'm early 40s and its one of my favourite songs for their younger era, I feel they are expressing being young hormonal boys, celebrating females and I love this song so much and the video is amazing!!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
This song is literally one of my favorite songs from BTS. I’ve listened to it soooo many time and I honestly don’t get why it doesn’t get more credit💜
I'm a woman and I love this song. It's great at showing the emotions of teenagers. From a female perspective, I was a little boy crazy when I was a teen so I don't really get the hate they got over this. I think it's something most people go through as a teenager, so yeah..... I think a lot of people blew this way out of proportion.
Edit: At one point in the song they sing about woman being the best gift, I actually think it's adorable sweet
MY FAV BTS SONG.
Fun, young, groovie...
That's nothing wrong w the lyrics.
Teens acting like teens.
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Your new subscriber 🙋🏻♀️they're just having fun... Young blood 🥰 I love them with respect 💜
I'm a 65 yo grandmother and absolutely love this song. There is nothing misogynistic about it. It's all about boys growing up. The video is so perfect. There is a lot more music(?) out there that should be banned. 💜💜💜💜💜
There's nothing wrong with this song, it's actually kinda cute 😜
You should watch the Bangtan bomb war of hormone dance practice that isn’t the Halloween one. It’s so funny. They change the dance up and have fun haha 😂
They not only dance, they interpret the song, disguised they get into their role, and without disguising, they get into the lyrics, they transmit very well, they are unique and respectful, very good!!!!!💜
LMAO listening to your exit. " I'm freaking loving this stuff, toodles." 🤣🤣🤣 You have officially been BTSed! Love it! I've gone from hello to have a blessed day. It's amazing how many people do a double take and now say thank you, you too. Kindness goes a long way. " I Love you man!" (a throw back).
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As a woman I also don't think that song is offensive or misogynistic. I was surprise to hear about those controversy. There are many other songs, which are much more provocative than that. It's just a normal song about teenagers and I really like it. Also the music video is much fun and great.
One of my faves. Just young men appreciating pretty girls.💜👍
I LOVE War Of Hormone. There is nothing wrong with it. Nothing offensive or derogatory. Heck, they even call women a national treasure.💜👍
In my opinion, the only way to be offended by War Of Hormone,is if you are trying to be offended by it.
It's a great, bouncy, fun song about teenage boys, surging hormones, and recognizing that girls are different, and that they feel different around them. It's an honest look at a fact of life, explored in a light-hearted way.💜👌
As a 54 year old woman, I've seen a lot of songs filled with misogyny (and misandry), and this is definitely NOT one of them. It honestly deserves a lot of respect and love 💜👍
Oh good you react on this I'm waiting for you to made this i like to know your points of view.
I love this song, truly. I'm a 54 year old ARMY and the song is catchy and I don't think misogynistic in the least. It does talk about what boys go through in school and doesn't put down girls at all. They shouldn't have to apologize for this song. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
It's the context that this was released....at the time other Kpop fans were always on the look out to drag them down especially if it looked like a potential hit...this was a tough era for them....they responded well though which shows so much more about them than the haters.... personally I get their point. Yes if you took it literally it has sexist overtones but they intended it as the title suggests. And I'm a string,independent female Army!!
Totally with you I love this song the war of hormones is a natural part of growing up for males and females.
Compared to a number of songs on the US radio that are sprinkled with 4-letter words, and may well describe getting it on, I agree with you that this song is fun, catchy, and no problem. Heavens, the Valentino fashion show Suga attended today (1-25-23) in Paris had women’s bare chests on view! I was a bit shocked, I have to say.😂 One thing I thought the first time watching the WoH music video was: There’s no ‘war’ with their hormones in the song, instead it seemed to me a kind of glorifying of youthful hormones!😊
I am a British female ARMY of 62yrs & I love this song, its a bop, I have no issue with the subject matter, I don't know who it was that accused them of objectifying women & being misogynistic but for me its of its time & is just boys talking about being boys at war with their hormones, its such a shame that they were made to feel bad about it & even apologize for it, our loss they don't do it any more imo.
This is one of my favorite BTS videos and songd
even if I'm just breathing, I bet someone will find fault with me. Been an army for 6 years and War of Hormone is one of my ten favourite songs from BTS. I'm 38yo female
I feel exactly like you for me this song is so good and there are nothing in the lyrics that offended me at all. It's not at all what I thought it would be. I adore that song 🎵
- First off... John, you *have* to watch the Real War version of their dance practice as well, even if off air. It's freakin hilarious! 😂:
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- Second, as a (western) woman I have absolutely no problem with this song. I think it's really obvious that it's an ironic look into the mind of a hormonal teenage boy, with pimples and all. 😆 Even the mv and choreography reeks of fun and irony. For me it's a clear-cut case of haters gonna hate. 🤷♀️
- No, because of all the controversy they never perform this song anymore which is such a shame because it's a total banger!
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