What Is The Advantage Of Using Hemlock Lumber?
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Em's Hemlock TED TALK.
Great Job Em! I have 2 100+ year old cabins made with German shiplap siding, that is as good as the day it was put on.
Pro Tip for painting Hemlock,
Paint all the knots with Shellac before applying any type of paint to the wood.
It stops the leaking of resins onto the painted surfaces.
FYI, It's also where the fraise, "Give em a Good Shellacking" came from.
My house was built over 100 years ago with hemlock. When I remodeled it was like nailing into knots, I was impressed with the straightness and hardness of that age old lumber.
As a carpenter, when we used sidings like that and even cedar we always had to plan around the knots so we usually had to buy about twenty percent extra to cut those out. Not the little tight ones but the ones that you mentioned that could weaken the board or pop out later as they dried over time. We always tried to buy long lengths and use the shorter cut offs around doors or windows where short lengths were needed. Took planning and pride to do the extra work but we got it done.
Your dad must be proud knowing you have all the knowledge to someday take over the business.
On the west coast, Hemlock is considered a trash wood and a last resort for anything. Douglas fir is the noble wood, "Oregon Oak". Hemlock is good for OSB, shavings for chickens and horses, pellets for stoves. And we have the king of woods, redwood in abundance. If only those out east could experience sugar pine, then they would shove all their Hemlock into the wood stove.
Good job girl, a lot of people don't know that a knot with a black edge around it will fall out, if no dark outer edge it's known as a tight knot.
Emerald and a longer video is a win win!!!!!!!!!!!
If I was smart I'd showcase yall as the us forest service All American family forest stewards. Your work is stellar
don't forget the catch phrase "welcome back to Lumber Capital log yard" lol 😆
I find it funny when youtubers end up having to preface their statements cause people decided to argue with them or just be contrary.
People just can't take some good knowledge and advice shared by a person or channel and then apply their own logic to adjust accordingly.
The LCLY group is doing a fine job as always.
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I love these little conversations and knowledge sharing videos. Hope you can keep em coming.
We've got no hemlock around this part of the country (Colorado). Some folks round here like to use cottonwood for trailer decking. Because of it's strength, most the old time saddle makers used cottonwood in their saddle trees.
Want trailer decking? Come to California and get some Bull Pine. Oily, stringy, un-splittable, and nearly un-millable, it is a lifetime deck once you tame it.
Man your momma and daddy are really truly compatible because their 2 blood lines mixed together has made all 3 of you young ladies really hard workin and all 3 of you very beautiful young women and there is gonna be very lucky people for when ever y'all decide to give in and take up a life partner but I'm pretty sure your momma and daddy are very proud of y'all
The stud mill I worked at would mix hemlock in with white fir. It had a chance of being timber bound and would pop the last foot of the flitch or cant on the double cut head saw. Maybe it was grown on a steep Montana side hill? A good run of 9 foot 2x6 and 2x4 would add up to 375,000 board feet in an 8 hour shift. Typically we ran it on a Thursday or Friday to allow kiln dry time. The hemlock had a tendency to bow and curl. Sometimes the badly bowed ones had to be taken out to push out the carts out of the kiln. Dried slowly it was a decent product.
Thank you for your comparison of hemlock to other species. Quite educational.
We use hemlock for flash boards on hydro dams. Pine will snap under the water pressure. Hemlock lasts quite a long time.
Love your work honey. Old growth mountain hemlock from upstate new York turns hard as oak but shouldn't get wet continuously
Very nice dialogue, presentation was superb!
Emerald !! She's my favorite. She does such a good job of explaining. It sounds very natural.
Ha! Whole bunch's fairly awesome but if we're gonna play favorites I'm have to go and be team Samantha. ;)
The FAA recognizes Sitka Spruce as the best strength to weight ratio material for components of wooden airplanes.
Enjoy all of your videos. Thank you. Hope to see and hear something from your older brother and mother.
Good morning 🌞🌸 😊✌️🌸 enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work. Have a great day!
Emerald, thank you for the education on Hemlock. A lot of valuable data that I didn't know.
Please Emerald take a bow. You've stepped up your video. From the introduction to the See you guys the next time. A great video overall. Either for new viewers or veteran viewers. Editing out the coffee breaks and the lack of distracting jewelry are Two of the main points that I approve and disapprove of. The pros and cons of your mills main product is very very good to see. Mostly you appear to love your job. The people you work with. And your surroundings. I thank you. For a video that stands apart from the videos before it. Welcome back. First time ever watched the same video back to back x3.
I apologize as if what I approve or disapprove of in your videos doesn't carry any weight other then from a faithful viewer. I didn't want it. To sound if my opion meant something. Love the videos and your family I thank you again.
looking good today emerald
What do you recommend for marine building ????.... oh yeah, extremely educational. Good work !!!!🤠👍
Every time I come back I expect Emerald to be gone....whisked away to a big modeling career! She is a natural.
A bit wide in the shoulders for modelling but a beautiful woman indeed. She could do tv commercials.
Educational and well spoken. Thank you.
I was surprised that you didn't mention that horses and maybe some other animals wont chew on it making it perfect for stables and barns.
So ur telling me u hve a lot of Hemlock in stock. Thumbs up
I spent years in sawmills and generally Hemlock was frowned upon in commercial mills. Big reason are the shake for one. Had a habit of coming apart in the edger and the gang saws. That was always fun to clean out. Other was you can't dry it at the same rate as the other species so it would have to go through its own kiln run.
We would set the logs aside for the most part and make rail road ties from it. I doubt CN and CPR would use a wood with poor rot resistance for ties and it's definitely stronger than the white softwoods.
The house which I live in here in the UK is timber framed (stud & board). The house was built in 1965, it is on an estate of around 200 similar houses. The framing is of Western Red Cedar which is incredibly light yet very strong, has good resistance to rot and is easy to work with. I built a new airing cupboard into the stairwell and bought Western Red Cedar to remain in keeping with the rest of the house.
Holy moly lumberjacks have changed since I was a boy 😳 ... and I mean that in a good way. 👍
Great info here about hemlock.
At Sunrise Mini Barns out of Odessa N.Y. we used 100% Hemlock with metal roofing. You are spot on with all your points!
Great explanation Emerald, even I understood that. Saw a RUclips short video where a guy explained that if you do just one accomplished hand gesture, it gives the words a lot more expression and looks more professional. I think that means no back and forth movements. Love your smile between sentences.
Thank you about the Facts of Hemlock. I’m new to your channel, and likening it very much. Thank you.
Here in PA hemlock is awesome to build with .it is very heavy very stable.
You always hit it out of the park.
Thanks for the education on Hemlock. I’m a tree farmer with sugar maple and Basswood and red pine. I do have some Hemlock I will check it out
Emerald you always present yourself and your information very well. Nice job.
Hemlock got you in front of the camera again. I think that is a good advantage also.
Hi Samantha seems to be a very good wood this is my house i built it with sawed pine.pine has a lot of knots it loosens over time
Great explanation Emerald! Loved the video.
Nice new tattoo on your arm Emerald. Thanks for explaining the benefits of hemlock.
As a fence installer I build numerous types of fences for several different purposes such as chainlink, and ornamental residential fences made of vinyl, aluminum, and wood. On some occasions I build fence for livestock using wood. On those occasions I usually use rough cut unplaned oak. Never use pressure treated pine because it is cured with arsenic. Have never used hemlock for any type of fence but was told to never use hemlock for a livestock fence, especially for horses because they like to gnaw on the boards, because it is poisonous. Do you or anyone reading the comments no whether this is a fact or not?
Wow I like the new intro. Great break down of the differences and pros cons of Hemlock Emerald. Very informative thank you.
Wow very good job explaining. I’ve learned more from you than I did back when I went to school!
+Vermonters 👍👍😂😂
Very informative and well said.
I tell everyone buying our hemlock garden beds that hemlock is 100% organic over p/t lumber. Great selling point
Thanks for the breakdown and real world applications, all your videos are great look forward to the next one
Tulip poplar works well
Emerald is a natural speaker, and so young ...It's going to be great watching her mature further into her role ...Awesome family ^^
Nicely explained !
Your a good teacher. Thanks
OK, first I simply never thought about hemlock that much - thank you for the presentation. I have been wood working for forty years, and buying green wood that long as well. Point is somehow you have found a niche that works well for you and your father has to be proud with what you doing for the business. Keep making videos and I wish your sawmill was closer to me. You are cool and a success...
Huh I learned something new today…… yep, many say cedar doesn’t get bugs or rot either but good response 3/4 of da video, depends on a few tings…. where ya live is a BIG and many folks don’t think about that. I have cedar siding on my home and it’s lasted a very long time (built in da 70’s), still looks great, but gots da woody woodpeckers hammering away, WHICH I found out they’re on the endangered species by da way. My point being that different wood for different projects and even know its correct for said project(s) doesn’t mean IT’LL LAST forever. Kinda like a marriage, it takes a lot of work to make it last forever. 😁
Another great video
Hemlock is a mystery wood, but surprisingly durable.That species is not for everybody.
Rot resistant hemlock always depends on where and how it's used it needs to be able to dry out after being wet but if it's in contact with damp soil it will rot sooner rather than later as any other wood would do
Fantastic job on this video. Informative, interesting, great presence and delivery. You could easily have a career in broadcast journalism, amongst many options I'm sure.
I love this video. Please do more about the characteristics of different wood species
I use Eastern Ontario hemlock for the frames on panelled garage doors. I learned from a Toronto contractor that they use western hemlock for the frames and rails on their stain-grade mahogany door. It is strong, stiff, and resistant to rot. Another nice thing about hemlock is that it machines across grain very well on the shaper or tenon cutter, far more easily than cross cuts of end grain on other woods.
Hi I’m considering using hemlock for a small timber frame project . It it easy to cut, drill and work with in general ?
I like to make garage door frames, entry doors and window sashes out of hemlock because it is highly resistant to rot but it also machines quite well, particularly when I am using shaper cutters across the grain. It drills, planes, and rips quite well. Some pieces shake quite badly, so I make a point of having extra material from which to select for each piece. WEST epoxy works well with clamps on shakes which must be repaired, though.
BUT:
The hemlock beams in our house were put there in 1837. A spade bit can barely dent those timbers. Recently my electrician worked for close to an hour with a wrist-breaker of a drill to make a 5/8" hole through an 8" timber. A #8 wood screw won't make it into this dry wood far enough to hold.
As long as it hasn't sat for a hundred years or so, it should be good to work with and you'll end up with an enduring structure.
@@robertstephenson9839
Nice! I'm now that much more informed 👍
Growing up in Western Oregon where dozens of mills produced huge amounts of sawdust. We burned sawdust (a waist product at the time). Hemlock had a bad habit of smoldering and then exploding in our furnace. Our cat loved sto sleep in the furnace room but after being in their when the furnace back fired he never went in there again.
Burning saw dust sounds dangerous to me. But I get why, it was probably plentiful and low cost.
I grew up learning the danger of combine fires from the harvest generated dust.
That's a funny story about the cat, maybe scared it enough to use one of its 9 lives, 😉.
Hi, I recently finished our interior window and door trim with 1x4 hemlock. It sanded and took a finish gloss coating very well. I like hemlock a lot. Thanks for your video, this was my first of Lumber Capitol Log Yard , Good Job Emerald !
Great video Emerald and great explanation
Nice overview. Janka hardness is around 500. A little harder than pine but not a hardwood by any means. Rot resistant is a bonus property. I like it. Thanks for sharing.
Cypress has the same bug resistance and longevity! But I love your videos!
Emerald, you need to have the nickname Hemlock, very strong but absolutely beautiful
Wood pores can effect holding paint. Recall Mr. Douglas had his house wood siding [ not Hemlock! ] painted but was so porous it kept sucking up all the paint. He contacted Mr. Haney to ask about the paint problem (Mr. Douglas had bought the Haney place). Mr. Haney provided a pore key so the wood pores could be closed. Unfortunately with the wood pores closed, the siding held the paint but it kept wheezing.
Recommend Hemlock for wood siding, it takes paint and stains and doesn't wheeze. Lumber Capital Log Yard has great quality Hemlock.
Thanks, that was very informative!!
Interesting that you guys like Hemlock. A lot of sawyers I know don't. I use Hemlock and Sitka Spruce for handcrafted log homes in Alaska, and I love the Hemlock. In full tree form it checks less than the Sitka, has cool "flutes" for character, and I love the color on the scarf cuts for the saddle notch...my 2x stair treads were just air dried in my log yard and have been inside for years now, no checking! Anyways, keep on keeping on 🤙
Once worked building boats. We always used Sitka for spars...
Sitka is great for old-timee airplane parts. Straight grain and light. Guitar faces, too.
@@generessler6282 Yes sir. Used such for sound boards...
We call it piss fir out west and use it as a last resort.
@@generessler6282 I have read and have been told Sitka has the greatest strength to weight ratio of any wood...
Until sometime in the 90s all the scaffold boards we use as bricklayers were made of hemlock nice and stiff lightweight unless wet I didn't know it was right
Ya all are awesome, the whole crew. Love also the videos with your Dad aka "the Boss' totally loving it
like the smoother, more natural intro.
Soft , twisted week wood. Tamaracks and Douglas fir!! Also i have red cedar on my property
Hey...now that was excellent....now on with the show !
Hemlock ? Well, it does make good moldings , it does take paint well , wooden gutter made of hemlock were common until people wised up and started using light weight, lasts forever, never needs repainting aluminum. I worked in a hemlock mill, one good thing about hemlock is that no one would take pieces of it home ( by accident ) I'd even take Douglas Fir ahead of hemlock as a construction material . Give me pine or spruce to build with thank you
thank you Emerald
thank you I learned alot and I am 62 years old
I think you mentioned bass wood ? Is that the same thing as balsa or at least similar ?
Excellent educational video. Thank you!
Most of the hemlock trees in Southern New England have died or are dying due to the Asian beetle. I have seen some flourishing hemlock forrests in central Vermont and am hoping we find a cure before the beetles spread there.
Well done 👏🌳Great teacher, Emerald
'Hemlock has good weight for its density." - Emerald - LOL. Since density is mass per unit volume, this is a funny statement.
Thank you for the informative video, well done with a good clear explanation. Thanks Emerald & Jade!!
Fantastic content and thorough explanation.
Very well said. Please keep up the work you do. It's enjoyable learning from your points.
The old houses that have hemlock siding was cut from old growth logs that have alot tighter growth ring pattern...even in my short 63 years I've seen our framing material go down hill cutting 2nd growth logs ...the tighter the ring the better quality of lumber and it also helps preventing of moisture absorbing and bugs ....for construction hemlock is not as stable as dougfir ...it twist more and doesn't have the strength of dougfir...but I have used hemlock for baseboard and door trim and it was pleasant to work with and looked sharp for the reasons you mentioned
+Grizz270 👍👍
This video was made in Pennsylvania. There is no douglas fir in Pennsylvania.
@@verteup it doesn't matter what trees are available...old growth of any tree more resistant to bugs and rot ... the thicker the growth ring the lower the quality of wood . Hemlock with tight growth ring. Is more stable but most hemlock these days have thick growth ring ...it's the same with Douglas fir
@@Grizz270 Bugs do not care about growth rings i assure you.
@@verteup your right but bugs do like moisture and the larger the growth ring the more moisture it holds souring the wood....this ain't my first rodeo sonny
Rot resistance is of course relative. Of the lighter soft woods, I don’t know of anything easily available that is better. I bought a load of 14- foot long hemlock 2x4s to use as temp supports building pole barns about 10 years ago. They have primarily lived outside the whole time and are riddled with nail holes from being used on so many projects. They appear just as strong as when I first used them. They also are great in structural uses, being light and stronger than spruce or pine….of course you have to watch for knot placement in all 3 species. This is where a sawyer really earns their keep by reading the cant correctly.
+Richard Anderson 👍👍
Lighter than spuce or pine ?? Is that a misprint? We cut hemlock and Heavy as hell is how I would describe it . At the small log mill we were missing about a million broad feet of logs after the first year of operation . We found it . Logs would come in big bundles that we opened at the side lift to go from the river into the mill , that missing million feet was the hemlock logs that had sunk to the bottom of the river ( had to dredge the river because the side lift wouldn't drop down deep enough ) Fraser River in B.C.
@@grazynazambeanie5963 May I suggest you compare them when dry.
@@richardanderson2742 maybe you mean true hemlock , that is called Balsam. Because hemlock is heavy wet and heavier than dried Spruce or dried Pine when dried . In fact I'd guess that dried hemlock is about the same weight as wet pine . There are tables out there if you want to compare them , I will say that nothing beats hemlock for taking paint
@@grazynazambeanie5963 USDA lists dried hemlock at 2.35 pounds per board foot. Long leaf pine (most of our southern wood) at 3.4 pounds a board foot. The only structural soft wood that meets hemlock is black spruce, which has the same weight.
As some who worked with 80S and 90s era P.T. Pine ( DC metro area), I can attest to the massive shrinking issue... and the "Checking" (what you are correctly calling "shake") issues with the fast growth franken-pine of the late 90s thru now, that is all pulp...You guys have some decent tree's from what I see, tight growth rings etc. If I was still in business, it would be worth making the drive up to get trailer loads from ya
Thank You....for the great info.....
So glad you spotlighted Hemlock. Completely correct not a hard wood but here on the east coast of Canada verry popular with farmers. Used in Pole Barns and Outbuildings, guess you use what is available and serves the purpose. Great videos and great information. Thanks.
This, from someone that sticks a moisture meter into the end grain of wood.
Hi Em and Jade! Thank you very much for the informative vid. I learned some useful stuff. Perhaps you could do a vid on the various types of woods that you process there at the sawmill. I would enjoy watching and find that helpful. I expect that many others into project building would find it helpful as well. CHEERS!
Great video.
Loved it Have a great day ladies 📹👍❤️
Wisecrack alert: Horrors! I have a hemlock (baby) tree. Saved it from the landfill when it looked like a Charlie Brown Christmas tree.(maybe 1ft tall). Now "Charlie" is full and about 3 ft tall. He's on my porch with my smoker/grill. Brings up a question. How tall were the hemlocks you milled? (Charlie is in a pot and won't get very tall). As always, all the best to everyone. Chef Scott 👨🍳
Hey neighbor, we will be looking for some Larch this spring of 24
Thanks!
You are the best Emerald ❤️ awesome video and I’ll see again tomorrow 😃
Hey Emmy! Don't do that to us! Here in the Middle West (that's like the middle east but with more flannel) the only Hemlock I've seen are gorgeous ornamental trees planted in protected locations. I've never even seen the lumber....
HINT!
Other than that shakey board, those of us who do more than rough framing are always interested in flat sawn grain pattern, quater sawn grain pattern, growth rings per inch and the physical characteristics (which you did cover).
Have your drone fly over the surface of some boards, show us the endgrain. Lettuce know if you've ever seen dazzling figured pieces come off La Mizer that you might have set aside if you had a kiln and a market for anything other than rough lumber. I presume you save out the best of the best for your cutting boards.
8/4 basswood (and poplar) were an industry standard for electric guitar bodies. The wider the better but often in Japan they would bookend or butcher block glue smaller pieces together (then paint them black). Instrument wood needs to be kiln dried but you might even get a secondary market with someone who will do the drying themselves.
Don't waste a single penny trying to chase a boutique market, but if you have any boards that are noteworthy you could let the buyer do all of the hard work.