@@yousifD_L what the hell does gwen being a alien have to do with that quote?? She was talking about captain nemesis who isn't a alien but is a monster. It's a really good quote if u ask me
This is one of the rare few Ben 10 episodes where the scoring system doesnt do the episode justice. Its just due to the nature of how the scoring system is set up, and how it was used in past episodes, it would get lower scores in several categories because of it. To me this episodes is one of the better ones from this era.
So weird how this is Clockwork's first usage by Ben and he basically gets bodied. Who knew this was the humble beginnings of one of Ben's deceptively strongest aliens!
Reverses multiverse destruction vs gets bodied by a human.Its insane that both of these can happen with the same alien, but Ben 10 has a habit of overpowering or nerfing the same alien transformations depending on the script.
he has been getting bodied a lot for a while now, Eatle, Chromastone and now Clockwork, not to say Eatle getting bodied again at the end of this episode
Well, he needed some sort of weakness, considering his power is time manipulation. So I guess being slow and physically weak as heck was the compromise.
It could be _because_ it's his first usage of Clockwork. Remember, one of the Ultimatrix glitches is that it _doesn't_ download the instincts of what an alien can do (Shocksquatch's debut in Heroes United, for example), Ben has to figure shit out as he goes (and Ultimate Ben didn't think it relevant to tell his past self "hey, this is what windy-up time boi can do", maybe because the timeline needed Ben Prime to figure it out on his own?). Compare with Atomix's debut in OV, where he immediately knew how to super saiyan stuff, because the True Omnitrix did give him the info on what an alien can do. ...As for Chromastone, who he's had for basically all of UAF, yeah, crystal boi got nerfed hard.
This truly felt like an episode that needed it's own full review since we never saw something like it prior and after. Ben and Gwen going on a solo mission since the trio can't realistically always be together. Nemesis being extremely dangerous attacking Ben in his human form and attempting to kill him, facial surgeries, Jennifer becoming attached to where she'd kill others for him.. people actually being killed in pretty realistical ways compared to the Alien explosives format. With it to end with a hit or an attack but simply Nemesis giving himself up in order to protect Jennifer to where the public believed he kidnapped her rather then the actual truth with her crying and biting her lip show that they truly loved one another. With Ben and Gwen simply watching and not interfering knowing the battle was done and there was really no winners in this episode. This was when I was coming of the Ben 10 Train after quit a number of years but this episode truly stuck out the Saturday Morning when I saw it.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 You do realize that not being relevant to the overall narrative doesnt mean an episode isnt worth analyzing, right? I mean hell Kuro literally made a video titled “Ultimate Alien has GOOD filler” where i assume he went over other irrelevant episodes like this one in full breakdown. I think the way this episode stands out and how well put-together it is makes it worthy of a full one at least
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Oh yeah dont get me wrong im not saying he should give literally every episode its own full breakdown, i just wanted to point out how an episode not having much impact overall doesnt automatically mean it doesnt deserve to be fully analyzed
@@oldenough5424 I agree. But Kuro has said himself his reasons for this in the video about why he's doing these. It's a scheduling thing and Kuro's a busy guy.
While Ben 10 has certainly had dark stories (Ethnic cleansing, mass death, hate groups, Guantanamo Bay), this episode always stood out to me the most because it's the most grounded. All of the other stories get hidden behind a layer of aliens and magic, stuff that doesn't happen in our everyday world. But this episode happens in our everyday world almost _every day._
This is my favorite episode of Ben 10 UA. While I wouldn’t call it a flawless episode, it’s definitely a well put together episode. The episode shows it’s themes well of how fame can affect an individual, how revenge can change how a person acts in any situation, and how it tackles stockholm syndrome, which shown in the episode is really hard to let go or understand. Someone out there has explained this in much better detail that I could, but this is why it’s my favorite episode in UA.
I'd probably say it's the best put together episode in UA, at least in terms of telling a cohesive narrative in a TV episode, and one that doesn't rely on cheap filler content (like superfluous fights). Plus, I'd rather take better characterizations over the mostly take-em-or-leave-em fights that we get in UAF.
It was definitely a stand out in this. Unfortunate the development for Captain Nemesis is hand waved away by Omniverse when Billy Billions forms the Vengers.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 with the in-universe viewpoint, you can also just blame that on Ben recreating the universe or just the Celestialsapiens in general for that LOL
I said it on the Ultimate Kevin breakdown and I'll say it again. With some tweaks this episode could've worked wonderfully in that arc, give Ben and Gwen some time alone to reflect on the situation, especially Gwen, since she never got to come to terms with the fact that her boyfriend became a monster (perfectly paralleled with the plot of this episode). Hell, I'd argue that at some point it *WAS* supposed to be part of that arc (since Kevin not being in this episode is extremely odd) but they couldn't finish the episode on time or something. I have no proof, but it just fits too well.
@@smashmaster521 Yeah I think that is the actual explanation, I just think it fits too well in the Ultimate Kevin arc for it to be a coincidence. BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY.
@@smashmaster521I mean even if they couldn’t get him in that still means they wrote the script, storyboarded and animated the episode without Kevin. So I doubt it’s just the actor couldn’t come in one day
this also could have led to a very natural segway of Ben reflecting on how he initially responded to Kevin and was more ready to kill him than his other villains. Then they could naturally transition to Ben agreeing with Gwen to work to save Kevin and have him be a lot more compassionate in their dealings before turning Kevin back. The story beat of “You don’t have to be an alien to be a monster.” Vs losing control over his abilities and sacrificing his humanity to save all reality and getting abandoned and attacked by everyone for it. Gwen was virtually the only person who stuck by his side. Scenes like him getting stopped at his mom’s house and not being allowed to see her because of his appearance and uncontrollable nature was heartbreaking. His whole world was shattering before him because he made a choice to save the universe and everyone treated him like a monster to be put down (again barring Gwen). Its the fact that Ben was more serious and ready to take Kevin down than deal with Greg. Its part of the reason I will partly always hate UAF Ben.
A nice detail about the episode is how it Carl never gets into his armor. To draw a parallel to Iron Man, the big part of Iron Man 3 was how Tony could be a hero without the Iron Man armor. Meanwhile, this episode is showing how Carl doesn't need the Nemesis armor to be a villain.
why does Eatle keep getting beat up also the reason why Ben doesn't think that much about recreating the universe is bcz if he did he would literally fall into depression knowing that the ones he knows are just copies and his mind would literally go insane so he jokes around to lessen its impact on his mind and health
When I look back, this is defiantly an episode I remember enjoying a lot. I love it when shows normally in a much higher ball game, do lower threat level cases. They show a much more human aspect like you mentioned. It may not have huge battles or end of the world stakes but it did stay in my memory years after the fact :D
This is probably my favorite UA episode, it’s not fun or super important to the franchise. To me it feels like the most real episode we’ve gotten, dealing with such a layered topic and respecting it, you can tell they wanted this episode to say something and it did. Was really hoping this one was going to be a full breakdown but this short review is still good.
As a resident Goofy Ben 10 enjoyer™, I do really appreciate where this episode goes and how it deals with it. For the tone that UAF sometimes goes for, this is one of the best executed.
I’m agree I love when Ben 10 is more silly, but I think it’s just as important to use those silly moments to make us attached to those characters. Look at ATLA vs the shamalan movie the both have basically the same beats, but when one has no comedy to get us attached it feels hollow.
I love the occasional dark episode, and I think this one is the perfect example of a dark episode. I think the reason why an episode this dark works so well, and is (probably) loved by many, is because it feels real. Ben 10 has always felt fantastical, and it works really well, but the world is "real", and I just love it when it takes things like this and play it straight This and "Prisoner Number 775 is Missing", are one of the best of UA, in my opinion
I actually think Absolute Power is a bit darker but they is a very close second. The idea of rescuing someone not wanting to be rescued is pretty disturbing especially for a kid.
I tend to appreciate when shows, that have whimsical, out there adventures, with magic, sci-fi and all that crazy stuff, have episodes or moments like these where they remind you that even in this worlds, real life issues can still be a thing. Especially since this is indeed a problem Ben and Gwen can't just beat up until it's gone, that you can't help someone that doesn't want it, so there is only so much you can do. Which is heartbreaking, but a nice lesson to see shows like this tackle.
I always remember that scene with Ben and Gwen finding the frozen dead body and Gwen stating the guy "bled a lot" which threw me off the first time, since this series usually never shows or mentions blood at all. And Jennifer getting electrocuted too. This episode was crazy.
The irony! You would think the darkest episode of this show would be an episode centered around Vilgax or any other major villain - but no, a human! I repeat, the irony!
There's this huge plot hole when he turns into swampfire. He can he grow his entire body from being blown up but suddenly can't fix his arm? If even that arm couldn't be fixed Ben can just rip it off and grow a new one.
He got a black eye as Swampfire too. Maybe it has to do with how the Omnitrix/Ultimatrix translates injuries between aliens? Maybe Swampfire's regeneration doesn't restore everything right away? Maybe the writers just didn't plan it out that heavily? Who knows.
@@flarestorm9417 to me they are just inconsistencies between each episode. Once a high breed punched swampfire so hard he obliterated his head and he regenerated it on the spot.
Eh, good point honestly, however maybe the injury simply transferred to Swampfire in a way that prevented him from healing the injury, like maybe when he transformed into Swampfire whatever controls his ability to re-claim limbs was damaged since Ben's normal arm was damaged, like if Swampfire has lost the arm in the episode he wouldn't have been able to pick it up and reconnect it since the "thing" that allows Swampfire to reconnect his lost limbs would be damaged just like the bone in Ben's hand. That's just me speculating tho so who knows? Maybe Ben totally could have grown a new arm or healed the one he had while in alien form and didn't think about it, or maybe the Ultimatrix takes a "snapshot" of Ben's physical health before transforming and turns him back into whatever state he was in before transforming regardless of the damage present, which would mean Ben would've still had the broken arm even if he actively healed the damage while transformed. That idea probably makes the most sense to me since the Ultimatrix isn't perfect by any means, especially compared to the Prototype/Re-Calibrated Omnitrix.
I love swampfire’s little rotting arm after Ben breaks it, lowkey playing back into the whole concept of injuries staying around when Ben turns back to human
This episode, the prisoner episode, and the dr. viktor episode all emphasized something special about superhero media that rarely gets addressed: Sometimes the hero doesn't get to save the day with flashy powers or catch phrases. Sometimes problems persist longer than a 30 minute run time and fight sequence.
Jennifer: Of course. Why would you care what I think. No one cares what I think. I'm just some stupid girl who only got lucky cause she's pretty. Nesmith: I never said you were stupid. I really like that line. It implies that Nesmith really does care for Jennifer to the point that he tells her he doesn't think of her the same way so many others do.
The series occasionally dipping its toes into some really dark stuff has always been part of its DNA. So I'm glad these kinds of episodes exist even this late into the series' life.
This is another I think I must have missed. It doesn't ring a bell. I'm also really baffled by how much longer UA season 3 is than the average ben 10 season
This is one of my favorite episodes, and it was a complete shocker watching it live. When you started doing Ben 10 breakdowns, was really curious about the overall thoughts of the episode when you got around to it. Like many, surprised it wasn't a full breakdown, but nonetheless, it's still a filler story in comparison to major arc.
Fancy seeing you here! This and the Charmcaster/Darkstar one are also episodes I love delving into. This one in particular I applaud for making a low stakes episode with more tension than some of the grander scale adventures. I also love how the camera isn't glued to our protagonists' perspective. The villains usually aren't important enough to get a narrative perspective that isn't viewed through the trio, but this episode really called for the shift in perspective, and the writing delivers, making it all the more poignant.
This is the most realistic episode of the entire franchise. I still would’ve loved to have seen this episode get a full breakdown, but this short review is still fine.
@@Bionickpunk Not gonna lie, I got bored of this UAF breakdowns. I want to see his omniverse opinions because unlike rest of the fandom he seems like not a big fan of omniverse.
a minor thing that I always enjoyed about this episode, I love how Nesmeth has a suit of armor that can take down Eatle with very little effort, the same alien that was strong enough to give Diagon-enhanced Vilgax trouble. imagine if when Vilgax came to try and conquer the Earth in season 3 of Alien Force Captain Nemesis showed up and just beat the snot out of Vilgax while wearing this thing, wouldn't that be anti-climatic?
Why wasn't this a full breakdown??? I mean I know its the darkest episode and story in the franchise but it was also one of the most compelling and well written, it should have been given the respect it deserved to get a full breakdown
It's filler at the end of the day. And Kuro has a schedule. Like the episode itself isn't even referenced after the fact so it's pointless still good story wise though
Also would have loved a full breakdown, but let's not push Kuro's schedule. He likely has a lot of editing to do for the Ultimate Enemy 3-part finale and couldn't fit another full breakdown in.
I love this episode so much. When I saw it after rewatching UA for the first time a while back, I was FLOORED that this episode got as dark as it did. It really felt like this was the creators doing their part to get as dark as they could get away with in a time where they were getting increasingly pushed to be lighter and campier. It felt like a stark return to the grimmer atmosphere of the early Alien Force seasons. But it's not just the fact that it is dark that's why I love it. There's a stark difference between darkness and maturity, and I think this episode dips far more into the "mature" camp, where it treats the situations it depicts, and the relationship between Nesmith and Nocturne as legitimately mature. I totally agree with the others that say that this episode deserves a full breakdown and analysis. If not by Kuro, then can someone get Implicitly Pretentious to do so, because God this episode deserves a legit essay about it.
this was one of the more confusing episodes to bring up concerning ben's durability. I thought that him transfoming into an alien that could regenerate would heal bens human form, but they showed that it injures the alien form as well.
It is a shame we didn't get that many human villains outside of classic and even then most of the human villains in UAF and OV were just classic villains brought back with varying degrees of success.
this episode was supposed to be a full breakdown, this is one of the main episodes i was most excited to see a breakdown of when you first started this series
Bro you didn’t even listen to what Ben said in Omniverse. He didn’t create duplicates of the living beings. He made an exact copy of the UNIVERSE and moved every living life form from the original universe to the duplicate.
Ben tells Rook and Argit "I created an exact copy of the universe and everything in it. Including you." Everyone but Ben is dead, the characters from that point on are copies Ben as Alien X made to replace them.
This along with prisoner 775 is missing are some my absolute favorite episodes sooo damn I really wanted a full breakdown. Ik everyone in the fanbase loves omniverse but i always felt the series absolutely shines when they play things straight and take things seriously. Some shows feel like they get dark to be "adult" but i think ben 10 UAF honestly feels like a very natural progression of the premise.
Well tbh omniverse is not nearly loved that much or anything it's always said that it's the most unserious and weakest series of this franchise kinda but UAF has pretty good episodes and dark moments as well not just comedy fun shit
@@harirkhosroanjom8006 And are u joking? Ov have developed its own loyal fanbase throughout years ,just see how many people want to watch ov breakdowns on ink tank.
I remember thinking this was an ideal episode for this era of the franchise. The original show taught lessons a kid should learn, with subjects a kid could handle. But a show made for an older audience, with teen characters, should try to instill examples of what they might experience in adulthood.
This is one of my favorite episodes of Ben 10. Such a good take on a dark subject. Well done in all fronts. Was hoping for a full breakdown. Still, glad that you enjoyed it too.
I think this episode definitely deserved a higher score in visuals. It may not necessarily have anything thrilling or exciting going on, but it uses its visuals so effectively. For sure it doesn’t deserve a 5, but I could see a 3.
This episode was my first exposure to the concept of "Stockholm Syndrome." After looking it up and learning more about it, I always painted this episode in a different light than every other Ben 10 episodes; not because of how "dark" it was, but because of how "real" it felt.
I absolutely love this episode. I already liked Hero Time and it gettinga follow up is great. I actually never saw this as a kid and just saw it a year or two ago. Captain Nemesis is a great villain for Ben and the emotional abuse displayed in this episode is really fucked up and authentic. This needed a full breakdown more than any other episode, but I understand the time crunch and honestly this stuff can be pretty heavy if you really break it down. Correct me if I'm wrong, but have we ever seen a regular human flat out die and have a body remaining on screen? UA would have been such a different show if we had more episodes like this.
This is considered to be the #1 Darkest episode of the Ben 10 franchise aside from Ghostfreak going rogue, Ghostfreak scaring the crap out of Zombozo, Kevin's mutation, Michael Morningstar turning girls into zombies, Grandpa Max being injured by Rojo, and Ben's sacrifice! I have been there and I live to tell the tale.
I forgot that captain Nemesis legitimately murders someone this episode. I didn’t like this episode as a kid because it wasn’t action filled as the others and as cool to me as the other lore but looking back I understand why. I barely understood what murder and Stockholm syndrome was. The Omniverse universe reset was honestly dark Af and kinda wish that it hadn’t happened but this… this is just plain dark as a cave
I think when ben recreated the univeree to a more nearest degree, he mia have shrugged it off a bit, due to being unaware to the potential consequence that might come arise like a new being like dagon or probably a reason any multiversal incursion if made possible.
Imma be honest, i never knew this episode even existed. Will give it a watch since it looks like its a good testimone of what a good "filler" episode is
I had just learned what stockhome syndrome was when I first watched this episode. And I remember muttering to myself "This sounds like stockhome syndrome." moments before Gwen actually namedropped it. And then I was like "Nailed it!"
I understand wanting to do a full breakdown on the finale… but I think most people agree that this one could have been a full one as well, rather than a speedy review.
Maybe it’s just me but I feel this episode confirming stuff like Stockholm Syndrome exists in Ben 10 makes it harder for me to like Gwen and Kevin as it paints their instant attraction in a darker light
I think it doesnt go that way, at least from what I expect Ben can heal while in Swampfire form, but can heal if he was damaged while in human form before transformation. The same reason he kept being sick with the flu in different alien transformations.
Cool seeing jennifer again as well as carl, even though i don't care about them when they came back in omniverse and i do agree this is the darkest episode by far.
I had a feeling Kuro would do a quick review on this episode, considering how suggestive the tone/themes around it are. But in all seriousness, this episode disturbed me a lot when I first saw it. Kinda sad how they followed up on it or Jennier's character later, but at least Cpt. Nemesis returned.
This shouldve been a full breakdown. Kuro's philosophical takes on the character's actions would've been on a full Swing
I agree, there are several episodes since the introduction of the short review system that deserved more detailed longer takes.
@@Bionickpunk like Above and Beyond
Really? Then he'd just be covering filler filler and more filler.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 but GOOD filler
@@SumitSStark I don't know the events in this episode never get brought up or referenced again.
'You don't have to be an alien to be a monster' - Most underrated quote in the Ben 10 franchise!
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Nah the most underrated quote is Ben as Big Chill saying "I'm one of everybody".
A sad truth especially with whole prisoner 775 episode.
That quote is so stupid considering gwen herself is alien!
@@yousifD_L what the hell does gwen being a alien have to do with that quote?? She was talking about captain nemesis who isn't a alien but is a monster. It's a really good quote if u ask me
This is one of the rare few Ben 10 episodes where the scoring system doesnt do the episode justice. Its just due to the nature of how the scoring system is set up, and how it was used in past episodes, it would get lower scores in several categories because of it. To me this episodes is one of the better ones from this era.
Agreed
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Same here.
Agreed
Rare? As far as I'm concerned all of the latter half of Ultimate Alien was done dirty
So weird how this is Clockwork's first usage by Ben and he basically gets bodied. Who knew this was the humble beginnings of one of Ben's deceptively strongest aliens!
Reverses multiverse destruction vs gets bodied by a human.Its insane that both of these can happen with the same alien, but Ben 10 has a habit of overpowering or nerfing the same alien transformations depending on the script.
he has been getting bodied a lot for a while now, Eatle, Chromastone and now Clockwork, not to say Eatle getting bodied again at the end of this episode
Well, he needed some sort of weakness, considering his power is time manipulation. So I guess being slow and physically weak as heck was the compromise.
It could be _because_ it's his first usage of Clockwork. Remember, one of the Ultimatrix glitches is that it _doesn't_ download the instincts of what an alien can do (Shocksquatch's debut in Heroes United, for example), Ben has to figure shit out as he goes (and Ultimate Ben didn't think it relevant to tell his past self "hey, this is what windy-up time boi can do", maybe because the timeline needed Ben Prime to figure it out on his own?). Compare with Atomix's debut in OV, where he immediately knew how to super saiyan stuff, because the True Omnitrix did give him the info on what an alien can do. ...As for Chromastone, who he's had for basically all of UAF, yeah, crystal boi got nerfed hard.
Ikr?
I’m so sad this didn’t get a full breakdown 😢😢😢
Kuro probably wanna get to the end and breakdown the last couple of episodes
Well for what it's worth it is a longer quick breakdown. Most quick breakdowns are 3-4 mins whereas this one is 6 min.
Same
Yeah but I am ok With it being a quick review
Same
This truly felt like an episode that needed it's own full review since we never saw something like it prior and after. Ben and Gwen going on a solo mission since the trio can't realistically always be together. Nemesis being extremely dangerous attacking Ben in his human form and attempting to kill him, facial surgeries, Jennifer becoming attached to where she'd kill others for him.. people actually being killed in pretty realistical ways compared to the Alien explosives format.
With it to end with a hit or an attack but simply Nemesis giving himself up in order to protect Jennifer to where the public believed he kidnapped her rather then the actual truth with her crying and biting her lip show that they truly loved one another.
With Ben and Gwen simply watching and not interfering knowing the battle was done and there was really no winners in this episode. This was when I was coming of the Ben 10 Train after quit a number of years but this episode truly stuck out the Saturday Morning when I saw it.
It's just filler that at the end of the adds to overall nothing by the end of the franchise.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 You do realize that not being relevant to the overall narrative doesnt mean an episode isnt worth analyzing, right? I mean hell Kuro literally made a video titled “Ultimate Alien has GOOD filler” where i assume he went over other irrelevant episodes like this one in full breakdown. I think the way this episode stands out and how well put-together it is makes it worthy of a full one at least
@@oldenough5424 It's also a straight up scheduling thing with Kuro dude said it himself in the video about why he's doing quick reviews.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Oh yeah dont get me wrong im not saying he should give literally every episode its own full breakdown, i just wanted to point out how an episode not having much impact overall doesnt automatically mean it doesnt deserve to be fully analyzed
@@oldenough5424 I agree. But Kuro has said himself his reasons for this in the video about why he's doing these. It's a scheduling thing and Kuro's a busy guy.
imagine a beetle man with a giant trash compactor for a mouth telling you you're in an abusive, toxic relationship
Or a talking blob. Just a thought.
It's kinda giving man vs bear but the bear is an alien
@@Emily-the-faerie I understand the reference
You know Kevin probably would've beaten Carl half to death after everything he did if he was in this episode.
Probably another reason for why the two didn't bring him.
Ben basically did what Thanos wanted to do in endgame re creating the universe. Ofcourse he didn’t have a choice, but still, creepy 😬
I thought this episode on its own would get its own breakdown video but a short one is still okay
While Ben 10 has certainly had dark stories (Ethnic cleansing, mass death, hate groups, Guantanamo Bay), this episode always stood out to me the most because it's the most grounded. All of the other stories get hidden behind a layer of aliens and magic, stuff that doesn't happen in our everyday world. But this episode happens in our everyday world almost _every day._
This is my favorite episode of Ben 10 UA. While I wouldn’t call it a flawless episode, it’s definitely a well put together episode. The episode shows it’s themes well of how fame can affect an individual, how revenge can change how a person acts in any situation, and how it tackles stockholm syndrome, which shown in the episode is really hard to let go or understand. Someone out there has explained this in much better detail that I could, but this is why it’s my favorite episode in UA.
I'd probably say it's the best put together episode in UA, at least in terms of telling a cohesive narrative in a TV episode, and one that doesn't rely on cheap filler content (like superfluous fights).
Plus, I'd rather take better characterizations over the mostly take-em-or-leave-em fights that we get in UAF.
It was definitely a stand out in this. Unfortunate the development for Captain Nemesis is hand waved away by Omniverse when Billy Billions forms the Vengers.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 with the in-universe viewpoint, you can also just blame that on Ben recreating the universe or just the Celestialsapiens in general for that LOL
I said it on the Ultimate Kevin breakdown and I'll say it again. With some tweaks this episode could've worked wonderfully in that arc, give Ben and Gwen some time alone to reflect on the situation, especially Gwen, since she never got to come to terms with the fact that her boyfriend became a monster (perfectly paralleled with the plot of this episode).
Hell, I'd argue that at some point it *WAS* supposed to be part of that arc (since Kevin not being in this episode is extremely odd) but they couldn't finish the episode on time or something. I have no proof, but it just fits too well.
They probably couldn't get Greg Cipes that day, hence Kevin's absence here.
@@smashmaster521 Yeah I think that is the actual explanation, I just think it fits too well in the Ultimate Kevin arc for it to be a coincidence. BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY.
@@smashmaster521I mean even if they couldn’t get him in that still means they wrote the script, storyboarded and animated the episode without Kevin. So I doubt it’s just the actor couldn’t come in one day
this also could have led to a very natural segway of Ben reflecting on how he initially responded to Kevin and was more ready to kill him than his other villains. Then they could naturally transition to Ben agreeing with Gwen to work to save Kevin and have him be a lot more compassionate in their dealings before turning Kevin back. The story beat of “You don’t have to be an alien to be a monster.” Vs losing control over his abilities and sacrificing his humanity to save all reality and getting abandoned and attacked by everyone for it. Gwen was virtually the only person who stuck by his side. Scenes like him getting stopped at his mom’s house and not being allowed to see her because of his appearance and uncontrollable nature was heartbreaking. His whole world was shattering before him because he made a choice to save the universe and everyone treated him like a monster to be put down (again barring Gwen). Its the fact that Ben was more serious and ready to take Kevin down than deal with Greg. Its part of the reason I will partly always hate UAF Ben.
@@BlueBlazeKing It wouldn't be the first time this has happened. Above and Beyond didn't have Kevin or Gwen show up at all.
A nice detail about the episode is how it Carl never gets into his armor. To draw a parallel to Iron Man, the big part of Iron Man 3 was how Tony could be a hero without the Iron Man armor. Meanwhile, this episode is showing how Carl doesn't need the Nemesis armor to be a villain.
why does Eatle keep getting beat up
also the reason why Ben doesn't think that much about recreating the universe is bcz if he did he would literally fall into depression knowing that the ones he knows are just copies and his mind would literally go insane so he jokes around to lessen its impact on his mind and health
More like he doesn't think about it so audience isn't depressed.
When I look back, this is defiantly an episode I remember enjoying a lot. I love it when shows normally in a much higher ball game, do lower threat level cases. They show a much more human aspect like you mentioned. It may not have huge battles or end of the world stakes but it did stay in my memory years after the fact :D
*You don't have to be an alien to be a monster* 😢. This quote recently took over my mind after i re-watched Ben 10 UAF after almost a decade.
I was hoping this would get a full breakdown
This episode always felt off like dark for me
This is probably my favorite UA episode, it’s not fun or super important to the franchise. To me it feels like the most real episode we’ve gotten, dealing with such a layered topic and respecting it, you can tell they wanted this episode to say something and it did. Was really hoping this one was going to be a full breakdown but this short review is still good.
As a resident Goofy Ben 10 enjoyer™, I do really appreciate where this episode goes and how it deals with it. For the tone that UAF sometimes goes for, this is one of the best executed.
Agreed
I’m agree I love when Ben 10 is more silly, but I think it’s just as important to use those silly moments to make us attached to those characters. Look at ATLA vs the shamalan movie the both have basically the same beats, but when one has no comedy to get us attached it feels hollow.
I love the occasional dark episode, and I think this one is the perfect example of a dark episode. I think the reason why an episode this dark works so well, and is (probably) loved by many, is because it feels real. Ben 10 has always felt fantastical, and it works really well, but the world is "real", and I just love it when it takes things like this and play it straight
This and "Prisoner Number 775 is Missing", are one of the best of UA, in my opinion
I actually think Absolute Power is a bit darker but they is a very close second. The idea of rescuing someone not wanting to be rescued is pretty disturbing especially for a kid.
Absolute power part 1 escpecially
I tend to appreciate when shows, that have whimsical, out there adventures, with magic, sci-fi and all that crazy stuff, have episodes or moments like these where they remind you that even in this worlds, real life issues can still be a thing. Especially since this is indeed a problem Ben and Gwen can't just beat up until it's gone, that you can't help someone that doesn't want it, so there is only so much you can do. Which is heartbreaking, but a nice lesson to see shows like this tackle.
Honestly, this should have been a full breakdown because this is one of the best Ben 10 eps out there. And underrated.
I always remember that scene with Ben and Gwen finding the frozen dead body and Gwen stating the guy "bled a lot" which threw me off the first time, since this series usually never shows or mentions blood at all. And Jennifer getting electrocuted too. This episode was crazy.
I like how this didn’t feel like a causal Ben 10 episode but felt like a thriller story with UA elements to it
The irony! You would think the darkest episode of this show would be an episode centered around Vilgax or any other major villain - but no, a human! I repeat, the irony!
The most alien people Ben ever met are the actual humans he met along the way.
Actually,the most darkest episode of franchise was centered around vilgax and that was "And then there were none"
@@yashbjoshi12 wouldn't say that was dark given the tone.
@@Bionickpunk eh, the other dimensional aliens were pretty bizarre when compared to anything else he met.
@@fightingmedialounge519 How wasnt that dark, yeah ov had lighthearted tone as whole ,but that episode was serious and dark asf!
There's this huge plot hole when he turns into swampfire. He can he grow his entire body from being blown up but suddenly can't fix his arm? If even that arm couldn't be fixed Ben can just rip it off and grow a new one.
He got a black eye as Swampfire too. Maybe it has to do with how the Omnitrix/Ultimatrix translates injuries between aliens? Maybe Swampfire's regeneration doesn't restore everything right away? Maybe the writers just didn't plan it out that heavily? Who knows.
@@flarestorm9417 to me they are just inconsistencies between each episode. Once a high breed punched swampfire so hard he obliterated his head and he regenerated it on the spot.
I just say it's an ultimatix glitch and call it a day
Eh, good point honestly, however maybe the injury simply transferred to Swampfire in a way that prevented him from healing the injury, like maybe when he transformed into Swampfire whatever controls his ability to re-claim limbs was damaged since Ben's normal arm was damaged, like if Swampfire has lost the arm in the episode he wouldn't have been able to pick it up and reconnect it since the "thing" that allows Swampfire to reconnect his lost limbs would be damaged just like the bone in Ben's hand. That's just me speculating tho so who knows? Maybe Ben totally could have grown a new arm or healed the one he had while in alien form and didn't think about it, or maybe the Ultimatrix takes a "snapshot" of Ben's physical health before transforming and turns him back into whatever state he was in before transforming regardless of the damage present, which would mean Ben would've still had the broken arm even if he actively healed the damage while transformed. That idea probably makes the most sense to me since the Ultimatrix isn't perfect by any means, especially compared to the Prototype/Re-Calibrated Omnitrix.
I love swampfire’s little rotting arm after Ben breaks it, lowkey playing back into the whole concept of injuries staying around when Ben turns back to human
The writer had a clear vision for this and it’s pretty good episodes.
Didn’t know there were so many episodes between the last arc
Just think, in an alternate timeline, this is the most lighthearted Ben 10 episode
This episode, the prisoner episode, and the dr. viktor episode all emphasized something special about superhero media that rarely gets addressed: Sometimes the hero doesn't get to save the day with flashy powers or catch phrases. Sometimes problems persist longer than a 30 minute run time and fight sequence.
No, I wanted a full breakdown.
6 episodes to go.
I really wish we got a breakdown for this episode. Its one of my favorites in the series.
Shame this didn’t get a full breakdown but a long quick review, that’s something
Given this episode's reputation, I'm a little shocked this didn't get a full breakdown.
In defense of Gwen, I'd imagine that writing an algorithm to predict the next spelling of Ledgerdomain, and hacking a phone are very different tasks
Jennifer: Of course. Why would you care what I think. No one cares what I think. I'm just some stupid girl who only got lucky cause she's pretty.
Nesmith: I never said you were stupid.
I really like that line. It implies that Nesmith really does care for Jennifer to the point that he tells her he doesn't think of her the same way so many others do.
The series occasionally dipping its toes into some really dark stuff has always been part of its DNA. So I'm glad these kinds of episodes exist even this late into the series' life.
Wouldn’t say always. You didn't really get episodes like this classic.
I'm shocked this episode didn't get a full breakdown when the chamalien episode did
One day I hope Kuro goes back and does full breakdowns of episodes he does minis over. This episode definitely deserves one for the plot alone.
This is another I think I must have missed. It doesn't ring a bell. I'm also really baffled by how much longer UA season 3 is than the average ben 10 season
32episodes of ua season 3 but the airing order combines season 2 with 1 so it's like 26 episodes
Shoot! I wanted this to be a full review.
This is one of my favorite episodes, and it was a complete shocker watching it live. When you started doing Ben 10 breakdowns, was really curious about the overall thoughts of the episode when you got around to it. Like many, surprised it wasn't a full breakdown, but nonetheless, it's still a filler story in comparison to major arc.
Fancy seeing you here! This and the Charmcaster/Darkstar one are also episodes I love delving into. This one in particular I applaud for making a low stakes episode with more tension than some of the grander scale adventures. I also love how the camera isn't glued to our protagonists' perspective. The villains usually aren't important enough to get a narrative perspective that isn't viewed through the trio, but this episode really called for the shift in perspective, and the writing delivers, making it all the more poignant.
3:15
CAN YOU HEAR THE SILENCE?
CAN YOU SEE THE DARK?
CAN YOU FIX THE BROKEN?
CAN YOU FEEL MY HEAAAAAART?!
What?
Gwen’s massive jawline
This is the most realistic episode of the entire franchise. I still would’ve loved to have seen this episode get a full breakdown, but this short review is still fine.
I don't understand why after complimenting the visuals and not saying anything bad, they get a 2 in the ranking.
4 vids in last 5 days. At this rate Kuro is going to start releasing Omniverse vids next week lol.
Think that seems to be the intention, to go through Ultimate Alien as quickly as possible to get to Omniverse.
@@Bionickpunk Not gonna lie, I got bored of this UAF breakdowns. I want to see his omniverse opinions because unlike rest of the fandom he seems like not a big fan of omniverse.
@@dondalakli _an OV fan's got to go into the comments tooth and claw so be it._
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I am not a native speaker so I did not understand your comment. Can u explain what did you say?
@@dondalakli I agree. But I just want opinions on it.
a minor thing that I always enjoyed about this episode, I love how Nesmeth has a suit of armor that can take down Eatle with very little effort, the same alien that was strong enough to give Diagon-enhanced Vilgax trouble.
imagine if when Vilgax came to try and conquer the Earth in season 3 of Alien Force Captain Nemesis showed up and just beat the snot out of Vilgax while wearing this thing, wouldn't that be anti-climatic?
Why wasn't this a full breakdown??? I mean I know its the darkest episode and story in the franchise but it was also one of the most compelling and well written, it should have been given the respect it deserved to get a full breakdown
It's filler at the end of the day. And Kuro has a schedule. Like the episode itself isn't even referenced after the fact so it's pointless still good story wise though
Also would have loved a full breakdown, but let's not push Kuro's schedule. He likely has a lot of editing to do for the Ultimate Enemy 3-part finale and couldn't fit another full breakdown in.
@@mitchjervis8453he could have quick breakdown other videos like Ben’s nightmare video
The universe getting destroyed and getting replaced I just don’t know why but every time I watch it I start crying inside
Man this episode must have been a unexpected surprise back in the day
I thought this episode would’ve got a full breakdown.
Ayo, Idw drift!
Wish i had a toy of him. I only the tlk one.
@@returnedtomonkey8886 I remember having a toy of him back in 2010! He’s my favorite Transformer!
This feels like something that the DCAU would’ve done with Joker and Harley Quinn in its later years if the Bat-embargo hadn’t gotten in the way.
I love this episode so much. When I saw it after rewatching UA for the first time a while back, I was FLOORED that this episode got as dark as it did. It really felt like this was the creators doing their part to get as dark as they could get away with in a time where they were getting increasingly pushed to be lighter and campier. It felt like a stark return to the grimmer atmosphere of the early Alien Force seasons. But it's not just the fact that it is dark that's why I love it. There's a stark difference between darkness and maturity, and I think this episode dips far more into the "mature" camp, where it treats the situations it depicts, and the relationship between Nesmith and Nocturne as legitimately mature.
I totally agree with the others that say that this episode deserves a full breakdown and analysis. If not by Kuro, then can someone get Implicitly Pretentious to do so, because God this episode deserves a legit essay about it.
When clockwork got shot, the scream actually sent chills down my spine. It actually felt like it mattered
this was one of the more confusing episodes to bring up concerning ben's durability. I thought that him transfoming into an alien that could regenerate would heal bens human form, but they showed that it injures the alien form as well.
Ultimatix glitches be like.
It's the ultimatrix it doesn't have much fail safes.
@@zcgamerandreacts2762 don't think we can put this entirely on the ultamatrix.
This episode definitely needed a full breakdown, he doesn't do it justice in this mini breakdown
It is a shame we didn't get that many human villains outside of classic and even then most of the human villains in UAF and OV were just classic villains brought back with varying degrees of success.
It’s criminal that this episode didn’t get a full breakdown
this episode was supposed to be a full breakdown, this is one of the main episodes i was most excited to see a breakdown of when you first started this series
I’m not complaining but I was honestly expecting this episode to have a full breakdown seeing that it’s one of ben 10’s most memorable episodes.
Bro you didn’t even listen to what Ben said in Omniverse. He didn’t create duplicates of the living beings. He made an exact copy of the UNIVERSE and moved every living life form from the original universe to the duplicate.
yes
Ben tells Rook and Argit "I created an exact copy of the universe and everything in it. Including you."
Everyone but Ben is dead, the characters from that point on are copies Ben as Alien X made to replace them.
Even though I thought this should be a full break down, I am glad he gave us the video in a short break down.
This along with prisoner 775 is missing are some my absolute favorite episodes sooo damn I really wanted a full breakdown.
Ik everyone in the fanbase loves omniverse but i always felt the series absolutely shines when they play things straight and take things seriously. Some shows feel like they get dark to be "adult" but i think ben 10 UAF honestly feels like a very natural progression of the premise.
When it goes it just loses that Ben 10 nature at times.
Tbh ov also had its fair dark and serious moments.
Well tbh omniverse is not nearly loved that much or anything it's always said that it's the most unserious and weakest series of this franchise kinda but UAF has pretty good episodes and dark moments as well not just comedy fun shit
@@harirkhosroanjom8006 So dark episodes means good and fun episodes mean bad?
@@harirkhosroanjom8006 And are u joking? Ov have developed its own loyal fanbase throughout years ,just see how many people want to watch ov breakdowns on ink tank.
I remember thinking this was an ideal episode for this era of the franchise. The original show taught lessons a kid should learn, with subjects a kid could handle. But a show made for an older audience, with teen characters, should try to instill examples of what they might experience in adulthood.
Expected it to get a full breakdown
This is one of my favorite episodes of Ben 10. Such a good take on a dark subject. Well done in all fronts. Was hoping for a full breakdown. Still, glad that you enjoyed it too.
Ig that Kuro is trying to complete UAF by 31st March
As 31st March 2012 was the day the last ep of UF had aired
I think this episode definitely deserved a higher score in visuals. It may not necessarily have anything thrilling or exciting going on, but it uses its visuals so effectively. For sure it doesn’t deserve a 5, but I could see a 3.
Honestly this episode often takes my attention when someone even mentions it. It's just so different compared to the other episodes.
Man, it’s pretty wild to see Kuro basically praising this episode the whole time while it gets a 16/25 on the rating. I get it but it does feel wonky
Honestly this deserved a full break down i love dark episodes
You’re killing it with the uploads man. Well done. Can’t WAIT to see the finale
This episode was my first exposure to the concept of "Stockholm Syndrome." After looking it up and learning more about it, I always painted this episode in a different light than every other Ben 10 episodes; not because of how "dark" it was, but because of how "real" it felt.
0:29 tell you something weird ?? this moment coming after 10 episode only
I absolutely love this episode. I already liked Hero Time and it gettinga follow up is great. I actually never saw this as a kid and just saw it a year or two ago. Captain Nemesis is a great villain for Ben and the emotional abuse displayed in this episode is really fucked up and authentic. This needed a full breakdown more than any other episode, but I understand the time crunch and honestly this stuff can be pretty heavy if you really break it down. Correct me if I'm wrong, but have we ever seen a regular human flat out die and have a body remaining on screen? UA would have been such a different show if we had more episodes like this.
Come on! This is one of the best UAF episodes it should have had a full breakdown.
This is one of the few episodes i wish we got a full breakdown. I felt this deserved it
This is considered to be the #1 Darkest episode of the Ben 10 franchise aside from Ghostfreak going rogue, Ghostfreak scaring the crap out of Zombozo, Kevin's mutation, Michael Morningstar turning girls into zombies, Grandpa Max being injured by Rojo, and Ben's sacrifice! I have been there and I live to tell the tale.
Another episode I missed out on in my childhood. Glad to have this Rust Bucket Review to summarize it, because I've heard a lot about this episode.
I forgot that captain Nemesis legitimately murders someone this episode. I didn’t like this episode as a kid because it wasn’t action filled as the others and as cool to me as the other lore but looking back I understand why. I barely understood what murder and Stockholm syndrome was. The Omniverse universe reset was honestly dark Af and kinda wish that it hadn’t happened but this… this is just plain dark as a cave
I think when ben recreated the univeree to a more nearest degree, he mia have shrugged it off a bit, due to being unaware to the potential consequence that might come arise like a new being like dagon or probably a reason any multiversal incursion if made possible.
Imma be honest, i never knew this episode even existed. Will give it a watch since it looks like its a good testimone of what a good "filler" episode is
yeah my favorite ben 10 episode ...it would have been nice if we got a full breakdown just like double trouble and prissoner 775
I had just learned what stockhome syndrome was when I first watched this episode. And I remember muttering to myself "This sounds like stockhome syndrome." moments before Gwen actually namedropped it.
And then I was like "Nailed it!"
As a kid I didn’t realize how dark this episode was it had so many themes just for one episode how they kept in well paced is insane.
I understand wanting to do a full breakdown on the finale… but I think most people agree that this one could have been a full one as well, rather than a speedy review.
This should be a full breakdown please
it's filler.
This episode always made me think of the Kangaroo Commando episode from classic if it was for a mature audience.
Episodes like this are why UA is one of my favorite shows of all time.
Maybe it’s just me but I feel this episode confirming stuff like Stockholm Syndrome exists in Ben 10 makes it harder for me to like Gwen and Kevin as it paints their instant attraction in a darker light
Omniverse confirmed that Gwen had a crush on Kevin even when they were kids. Which makes little sense, but sure, whatever.
@@theking8347 which I honestly think makes it worse since Kevin was still a villan at that point
This episode deserved a full length breakdown. It's a top ten for uaf in my book
So much emotions in this episode 😢
Could Ben have turned into Swampfire to heal his arm faster?
I think it doesnt go that way, at least from what I expect Ben can heal while in Swampfire form, but can heal if he was damaged while in human form before transformation. The same reason he kept being sick with the flu in different alien transformations.
He actually did and it didn’t work out
I appreciate that although this is still a Quick Review, it's still a little longer than usual (about twice as long as the average Quick Review).
Ultimate Alien only knows one thing, being dark :|
It gets pretty old fast.
-Thats in my opinion-
I agree
Cool seeing jennifer again as well as carl, even though i don't care about them when they came back in omniverse and i do agree this is the darkest episode by far.
This episode is So freaking DARK
I had a feeling Kuro would do a quick review on this episode, considering how suggestive the tone/themes around it are. But in all seriousness, this episode disturbed me a lot when I first saw it. Kinda sad how they followed up on it or Jennier's character later, but at least Cpt. Nemesis returned.